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I daydreamed a little and had an idea.
What if our current system of mathematics actually prevents us from understanding universe completely? What are the limitations of mathematics? What could be alternative to mathematics?

Just like binary is limited to only two values, there surely must be some limitations to mathematics? Should we even use numbers?

Any good reads on.. how do you call it? Mathematical philosophy?
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I propose we use dogs instead of numbers from now on. This shall be a big leap forward.
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yeah, we call it unpractical day dreaming
go study psychology or philosophy and day dream all day without doing jack, it suits you OP

want to prove me wrong? invent a better mathematical system then. Otherwise just shut your bitching mouth
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>>7794164
Why the attack? I am not disregarding maths in any way. I was just thinking what if cant go past certain point because our mathematical system simply does not comprehend it? You seem like religious zealot, unable to question any sort of higher power. Anyone who enjoys science should be open minded abot any ides that are not corruptive.
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>>7794143
Of course it does. Pretty much any calculation we end up doing in physics has to be perturbative calculation, has to be regularized, has to be renormalized, etc. because we don't have the mathematical ability to find complete solutions.
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>>7794164
Considering that our system of mathematics in is inherently inconsistent (see Godel), there is merit in questioning what answers we arrive at through it.
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>>7794207
>misunderstanding Godel this hard
>2/10 made me reply
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>>7794143
Are you 8?
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>>7794143
Get your 14 year old weed daydreams off 4chan please.

>dude knowledge is limited holy shit
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>>7794258
I'm 25
I dont do drugs
I study material sciences

Since when did it become taboo to question the system you're working in? I think it's the underlying principle in progressing. It's the reason quantum mechanics developed.
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>>7794143
>What if our current [level] of mathematics actually prevents us from understanding universe completely

Absolutely. Read about the history of math and science
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>>7794930
Quantum mechanics developed because some discoveries were made about how energy is quantized, not because Plank was shitposting on halfchong what if questions.
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>>7794143
>What are the limitations of mathematics?

Godels theorems show that there are true statements in (and about) our universe that we can't prove true. That's a fact, you know.
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>>7794143
Mathematics suffers the same flaws as any purely logical system. It can't tell you anything new. Once you've arbitrarily chosen the axioms, deriving from there is just going to tell you things you've implicitly already stated as fact.
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