>>7792276 Because it takes a ton of intellectual labour to decipher what the fuck most philosophical texts are trying to say, and writing philosophy in an obscure enough way so that nobody can tell you're full of shit is just as difficult.
>>7792281 Is it just me or does philosophy get more shallow as you progress. Like you start out with obvious stuff like "you can't know anything xD" and you end up with basically dissecting political systems.
If it takes so much intellectual labor to decipher something that is written so obscurely, is it even worth the effort? If philosophy student truly have such a high IQ then it is certainly a waste of talent.
IQ doesnt even mean anything u can have a 150 iq and still be a virgin loser, plus its proven that woman are better at basically everything that actually matters in the real world... but whatever helps u sleep at night i guess LOL
>>7792287 Wouldn't that be less shallow then? Freshman philosophy 101 serves two purposes, to get the "LOL can't know anything for certain, brains in jars, sophilism is so cool and edgy XD" shit out of the way and give you a rough overview of everything else done so you can hang any new bits you learn in an appropriate mental context. Also most pure logic classes are in the philosophy department so you have those guys dragging the average up, and most marxist-feminist-gender-studies stuff has gone to sociology and "women's studies" freeing them of that burden of tumblr level reasoning. The average philosophy major has more money than practical sense and wants something that sounds cooler than "communication"
>>7792276 it takes an intellectual to work through the mental gymnastics required to "make sense" of a lot of philosophies. the average man would have the wisdom to say something like this is foolish; but an intellectual is required to go through the effort to find out if it is foolish or not (it is).
>>7792519 No that stuff is actually deeper and more essential. Everything past that just seems like something you wouldn't even call philosophy. It's just political shit. It's like the difference between high and low level programming. It just seems to get higher and higher level. It starts with absolute truths and ends with opinions you would hear on mainstream news.
>>7792535 Ah I see. The upper level stuff just sounds like so much OO marketing buzz words to sell the latest new programming add-on tool. Compared to the stuff that tool is built on it seems so much more fuzzy and bullshit laden right? Plato's dialogues where like that at the time he was alive though, like wise Turing's papers seemed like rather useless theoretical mathematics until we needed to break some codes. I think in 10 generations the "High Level" philosophy of today will have solidified into something that seems that concrete now. It just takes a long time for the bullshit to get hashed out.
Full disclosure: I have a philosophy minor, an unread and untouched copy of "A Critique of Pure Reason" sitting on my shelf, and a very well read copy of David Chalmers "The Conscious Mind".
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