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Can any psychologists explain this to me?

It seems as if what is and isn't a mental illness changes all the time in accordance to popular opinion. For example, in the 60s being homosexual was a mental illness, but now it isn't. Why is feeling sad a mental illness but wanting to change gender isn't? Or wanting to have sex with children and wanting to have sex with other men. This makes psychology feel very disingenuous as a science.
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>>7787854
Xenoestrogens, increased amount in ecosystem, increased amount in our food, increased amount in our bodies and a long duration of them being used.
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>>7787854
>Why is feeling sad a mental illness but wanting to change gender isn't?

But it is:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria
>GID is classified as a medical disorder by the ICD-10 CM[7] and DSM-5 (called gender dysphoria).[8]
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>>7787866

So why are transgender people supported and not put on medication?
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>>7787869
Because the only successful treatment (ie the only treatment that reduces distress and makes the sufferer feel better) seems to be gender reassignment surgery.
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>>7787869
They are put on meds. The 'shut the fuck up and have some prozac because you're inexplicably depressed all the time' medication which was popular in earlier times is just not as effective as hormone therapy.

How do you not know about hormone therapy?
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>>7787874

But for a schizophrenic it is less distressing if people just engaged in their delusions, but they don't and force them to go through the very painful experience of therapy. Why is it any different? Is it because psychologists would get lynched?
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>>7787881
Now who's being disingenuous? Schizophrenia is serious condition where someone has completely broken with reality, indulging their delusions is potentially dangerous for both the sufferer and those around them. People who have untreated schizophrenia have a higher rate of suicide, homelessness, joblessness. Clearly it's not really the kind of think you want to indulge.

GID is pretty benign in comparison.
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>>7787890
>broken with reality, indulging their delusions is potentially dangerous for both the sufferer and those around them. People who have untreated schizophrenia have a higher rate of suicide, homelessness, joblessness

But a lot of that is also true for GID? A lot of post-op people commit suicide and are obviously broken with reality. But that's besides the point, just giving up on trying to help these people and doing a U-turn saying it's completely okay is just wrong. There is no reason why more treatments for GID can't be tried
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>>7787891
>and are obviously broken with reality

Not at all, psychosis is something completely different.

>just giving up on trying to help these people

But that's what I', are trying to tell you, the only known treatment for these things is HRT and surgery with some psychotherapy, anything else just isn't effective.

>There is no reason why more treatments for GID can't be tried

No one knows what else to try, as far as I'm aware there's still no understanding of what causes GID. There's been a few studies that show that people with GID have brain structures that are more similar to the structures of the gender they think they are.
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>>7787854

Some of it has been politicized, too. Are you worried about eating clean and healthy food? Concerned the multi-billion dollar GMO industry might not tell you the whole truth on GMO safety? Hmmm.... Seems like you have a mental disorder - Orthorexia nervosa. Here have some drugs until you get it line with the rest of society and follow the high-fructose, cancer-causing American diet. Now, you're all better.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthorexia_nervosa
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Mental conditions are considered an illness when they significantly impair someone's quality of life. Being sad isn't clinical depression, but being unable to get out of your bed, not eating and lacking the willpower to take a shower is. Moderate and severe depression isn't even that characterised by sadness as much as it's characterised by emotional numbness.

Homosexuality stopped being considered an illness because fags can live a happy life nowadays despite it. It's not considered a disorder because of political correctness.
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>>7787924
>proposed disorder
>extreme or excessive preoccupation
Are you a bit stupid?

There's a difference between saying that you think aliens are real and being a full-blown UFO maniac whose entire life revolved around trying to get kidnapped by aliens. The latter one is ill.
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>>7787924
>Proposed disorder
>extreme or excessive preoccupation with eating food believed to be healthy.
> may paradoxically lead to unhealthy consequences, such as isolation...malnutrition and death

It's clearly a lot worse than "ooo I'm trying to avoid GMO's".
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>>7787854
that cat reminds me of one of my own. 10/10, would pet. I would pet any cat actually, but still.
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>>7787937
People should avoid GMOs and eat healthy food. Stop shilling your mutated crap here.
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>>7787946
>Being this black and white
>"shilling"

kek, post discarded.
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>>7787945

Thanks, his name is Sooty and he's nearly 11 years old. I love him very much.
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>>7787948
> Being an obvious monsanto shill.
oh wow. You've completely convinced be to buy your mutated cancerous garbage. I'll throw all my healthy food away right now !
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>>7787946
Mutation is the driving force of evolution, friend. And GMOs are a product of genetic recombination, not mutations.
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>>7787954
>I can't hold a nuanced opinion of the world
>You either agree with me or you're part of the global conspiracy to pollute my precious bodily fluids.

Hilariously it sounds like you might have Orthorexia nervosa, or just standard schizophrenia.
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>>7787956
> all mutations result the same
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>>7787961
Like I said, GMO is not the result of mutations. Also, mutating and eating mutated stuff isn't the same thing. There's no reason to believe that a two-headed chicken isn't delicious.

>>7787954
Neither mutated nor cancerogenous.
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>>7787961
>Doesn't know that practically (literally?) everything he eats today is the result of mutation.
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>>7787968
Well you can't ask people to eat your mutated garbage if they don't want to. I don't know why you keep pushing it.
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>>7787961
>>7787954
Humans have been genetically modifying crops and cattle for thousands of years by selecting them.
Do you think the cows we raise for milk could survive in the wild?
>> all mutations result the same
Exactly, and this isn't a mutation. It's a human controlled modification in genes (which we know the effect of), made specifically for a purpose, not a random mutation.
There's no reason to believe it will harm you.
It's certainly better than food grown with certain harmful chemical substances.
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>>7787976
> its not mutation
> it's modification in genes
:^)
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>>7787975
I'm not sure if you're a troll or actually ill.

Excessive trolling should be a disorder anyway.
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>>7787978
The point is, it isn't a random mutation like radiation produces, it's a controlled modification of DNA, and a step up from just using chemicals to boost food growth.
Also, "mutation" implies it isn't controlled:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation
>In biology, a mutation is a permanent alteration of the nucleotide sequence of the genome of an organism, virus, or extrachromosomal DNA or other genetic elements.
>Mutations result from damage to DNA which is not repaired, errors in the process of replication, or from the insertion or deletion of segments of DNA by mobile genetic elements.
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My uni roommate claims to have ADHD and does nothing but watch anime and play games every day. Is he bullshitting me? Should I just kill him?
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>>7787981
so is shilling your mutated garbage, but you're still here
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>>7787854
Beware of informing the system of any 'problems you may have'. We are considered a massive threat to this insane system, even for questioning their authority/legality. Yes, this system actually believes that it is GOD, and will fucking assassinate your character/social profile if they can break you physically/mentally. This is Sigismund Schlomo Freud's golden dream coming into fruition, a system in which Zionism controls everything we are capable of doing, that spreads it's framework deep into human life & experience.
Here is the doctor's Grimoire of modern psychology, his/her spellbook of power against mankind, a machination of the zionist American Psychological Association (APA) - http://dhss.delaware.gov/dsamh/files/si2013_dsm5foraddictionsmhandcriminaljustice.pdf
The History and Tyranny of the DSM - http://psychologytomorrowmagazine.com/history-tyranny-dsm/
Upset and exhibiting dissent towards the system/any 'authority'?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppositional_defiant_disorder
Finding it hard to play your role, goy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_attachment_disorder
This is a consensus-based golem force that nobody can challenge inside the means of the system, which is slowly but surely overthrowing our reality.
THE MEDICAL MAFIA - http://www.whale.to/a/medical_mafia.html
What Zionist And Anti-Zionist Jews Have Said About: Medical Practices - http://theevilofzionismexposedbyjews.weebly.com/13-what-zionist-and-anti-zionist-jews-have-said-about-medical-practices.html
The Hidden Tyranny: The Harold Wallace Rosenthal Interview-1976 - http://www.whale.to/b/hidden_tyranny.html
Family-betraying/murdering Bernard Sherman (Zionist Jew) biggest drug dealer in the world via APOTEX - http://www.pharmaholocaust.com/Dr--Bernard-Sherman-tortures-me.html … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Sherman
(In case you weren't aware) The Hidden Tyranny: The Harold Wallace Rosenthal Interview-1976 - http://www.whale.to/b/hidden_tyranny.html
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