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This stuff is amazing. I want to change my major and hope that I somehow end up getting a spot researching here after grad school, but I can't afford to go to college. Oh, well.

Still, has anybody else looked into their work? It's really interesting stuff.

If I win the lottery, being too dumb to provide my mind as a resource, I'd definitely put half the winnings down on helping them move prosthesis and into deeper synthetics development. Best radical life extension plan we have yet for those of us already born.
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>>7777777
fuck you
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>>7777777

ARE YOU SRS?!
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shouda been an IQ thread.
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>>7777777
>If I win the lottery
you won the lottery alright

checked
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Fuck you OP
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>>7777777
Gay thread m8
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>>7777777
fuck off faggot
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>>7777777
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>My favorite subject and future field got the get

I'm not even mad
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fuck you
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Holy shit hahaha
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>>7777777
So glad the get is actually science & math related.
Sorry OP, your thread is hijacked.
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>>7777777

pretty cool
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fuck you could've at least added no more IQ threads
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>>7777777
>>7777777
>>7777777
POST BIOMECHATRONICS
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>be OP
>come home from work
>time for some /sci/
>thinks about a good topic, spends a while writing it out
>forced to get a GET he didn't even know was happening
;_;
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>>7777777
>If I win the lottery

You just did.
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>>7777777
I respect it
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Oh well.
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>>7777777

That get was going to be the savior of /sci/

We were finally going to be rid of the IQ threads.

Instead it was wasted on this shit

Fuck you.
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Science is shit. This thread is shit.
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>True patrician sci field gets the almighty number

It's a sign.

Prosthetics capable of surpassing human limbs confirmed within 7 years
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So how would one get into biomechatronics? What undergrad and grad courses would they have to do??
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>>7777777
You won the lottery that no one really wants to win, son.


Checked em. See ya tomorrow.
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>>7777839
I'd say mech eng and then mechatronics
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CONGRATS M8 HOPE YOU GET LUNG CANCER
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>>7777777
MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>7777839
My friend's little bro is studying bioengineering at Washington State so that he can work on this kind of stuff. That may be a place to start looking.
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Get a contact inside and study the content of the courses.
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>>7777777
Checked.

You're gonna win the lottery. Better change your major when that happens.
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>>7777777
I'm not even mad. This is a reasonable post.
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>>7777777
Checked

with love, /vg/
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Heps checked. Op you have recieved the blessing you must migrate

>>>/s4s/
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Are there any biomedical engineers currently employed that are browsing? As in, postgrad.

>>7777851
I'm going to see; I know there are programs around, I'm just not confident in my ability to learn all the stuff that goes into such complex work.

I heard there's a company doing hands; MIT Group is focused on legs atm. Does anyone have their name?
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>7777777
Should have been a way worse thread, considering this board.
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>>7777777
Herr's "robot fish" is pretty cool.

http://biomech.media.mit.edu/portfolio_page/a-swimming-robot-actuated-by-living-muscle-tissue/
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>>7777777
Daaaaaaaamn nice get
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>>7777776
>>7777778
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>seven sevens
check 'em
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>>7777777
> if I win the lottery.

You kinda did ;)
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Stuff like this.

However, their current research only serves to replace non-vital missing parts; the prostheses cannot contribute to major life systems (i.e metabolism, blood flow, immune system) or replace them. That's a long way off, yeah, but it'd be neat.
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>>7777969
Forgot the pic!
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nice dubs
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>>7777777
>>7777777
>>7777777
>>7777777
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>>7777988
nice dubs
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>>7777777
Doomed from the start for productive conversation.
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Studying to become a Prosthetist/Orthotist here. This stuff is great and all, but I don't see a lot of it getting used. With how shit health insurance is nowadays the general population is lucky to get a replacement leg.
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>>7778029
Do you think it would change as this technology progressed?
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>>7777777
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>>7778034
I'm not sure, I know right now that nearly every clinician I talk to bitches about how hard it is to get reimbursed for the even simplest of modifications. It all has to do with prosthetics' grouping with wheelchairs and some big wheelchair fraud that was happening. They're cracking down on all related fields and O&P is getting hurt hard.

The big ordeal with amputees right now-- at least lower limb-- is actually being able to bear their socket for a long amount of time. Until these old tech sockets are ruled out, OP's images wont really make much of a dent.

On the other hand, Eksobionics is doing some pretty cool stuff with orthotics, which might be a little more doable.
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>>7778048
Somewhat off topic, but related. Met this guy a few months ago, there's been a huge rise in fashionable prosthetic covers lately, it's been giving me a huge boner.
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>>7777867

I wasted 2.5 years in bioeng before switching to physics but from what I gathered, you're better off going into MechE or EE (depending on your interests), and maybe take some bio classes to "demonstrate interest." Or better yet, get involved with research in the BME department, your CV will look really nice with that sort of experience.
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>>7778088
checking my own dubs

Actually I wanted to add that, your university's BME program might not be as much of a shitfest as mine was. Hell, they even began revamping the major right after I switched out of it, so it's going in the right direction now I suppose. Anyway, point is take my advice with a grain of salt, and always do the research on the program as much as you can.
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>this guy was actually going to win the lottery
>he just wasted all his luck on a GET
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>>7777777
>tfw when those transtibial prosthesis in the image are seven
>the post number are seven sevens
POETTRY
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>>7777777
ban
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>>7778088
How is kinesiology viewed?
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>>7778110
Meme magic doesn't work that way; it GETs trigger luck-based phenomena; their acquisition does not count as one.
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>>7777777
>>7777777
>>7777777
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>>7777777 (Checked)
t. /int/
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If research is out there for how to develop bones and tendons in vitro, why not try a more biological approach in making organic prosthesis?

You could in a theoretical sense, build a appendage in a vat. Assemble the components of tissue, and implant it within the host.

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/6493/20140401/self-regenerating-artificial-muscle-tissue-a-breakthrough-for-bio-engineers.htm

Seems the concern is, how to innervate the appendage to the host and provide therapy afterwards, restoring movement.
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>>7777777
Checked. Kind of a dumb get but hey if you;re lucky enough for the get maybe you're lucky enough to win the lottery.
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>>7777777
Meme magic in action lads.
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>>7777777
ELECTRONIC OLD MEN ARE THE FUTURE!
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>>7777777
>legendary septs
There is always something you can do. There is high demand for electrical/mechanical engineering and programming skills even with the "we can't compete with billions of cram schooled chinese and indian engineers" meme, businesses are always complaining about being unable to find someone with a specific skill. You might not be a genius but if you a diligent and persist with it you can get to a basic level, so you understand what is going on, you can be a part of it.
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>>7777777
The most retarded get I have seen, and I know for a fact OP planned this..
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>>7777777
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>>7777777
MOM
MOOOOM
OVER HERE
IM A PART OF THIS
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>>7777777
Fucking faggot, get out of here with your bio bullshit. I'm fucking sick of you reddit cunts ruining every single get on this site, LITERALLY kill yourself.
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>>7778550
>>7778550
> reddit
> anything to do with science

If Reddit posted it it would look like this :
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Posting in a legendary bread.
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>>7777777
I love you!
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You're maybe a loser but at least you won the meme lottery.
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>>7777777
Kill yourself.
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>>7778608
y
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witnessed
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>>7777776
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>>7777778
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>>7777777
God damn that is the lamest shit.

Reported.

Saged.
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Fucking 4chan. I came here to talk about this shit, not some /b/-grade tarded GET

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YLwTJMyoB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDsNZJTWw0w

>>7777838
More like15 probably.
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>>7778791
B-but I'm contributing...
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CONGRATULATIONS! THE TOPIC YOU HAVE CHOSEN WILL FOREVER BE BANNED FROM /sci/!
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>>7777777
>seven sevens

wow
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>>7778791
> /b/-grade tarded GET
It is 7777777, seven sevens!
There isnt more epic get than this.
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>>7777777
WITNESSED
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>>7778866
Nice numbers there yourself.

Does anybody want to actually talk about the topic, though?
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>>7777777
Dumbass op should have played powerball instead of posting. Now a lifetime of regret
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>>7778914
Why not both?
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>>7778918
Lightning strikes but once
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>>7777777
Sweet fucking Christmas anon play the Powerball holy fuck! I've been on 4chan for 13 years and this is the first time I've actually seen a full repeat number post ID
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>>7778924
Actually lightning typically stiles 2-3 times so fast that you only see it as once
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>>7778866
Post and thread numbers are consecutive you moron.
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>>7778948
It takes so long to get them that the previous one has usually been deleted.
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>>7778791
>Tfw I'll be finishing grad school with a focus for this kind of stuff in 6-7 years
>Plan on starting up my own company
>Know I'll have a real chance to be one of the people at the forefront of my chosen field because it's just starting in the next seven to twenty years

It's a scary, good feel
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>>7777777
Those digits
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>>7777777
>radical life extension
I want pop sci to leave.
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>>7779245
>pop sci

I'm not saying full transhumanism, but prosthetic organs and whatnot would definitely be a big step forward in medical science and the human lifespan, would it not?
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>>7778791
Stop acting high and mighty you insufferable shit, you know full well that we were on track for this and that you were waiting to post this, trying to get the get.
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>>7779283
That's not OP.
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>>7779288
>Fucking 4chan. I came here to talk about this shit
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>>7779299
I'm OP; I know that's not OP lol.
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>>7779322
No I'm OP
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>>7779369
OP is OP.
Only he knows who he is.
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>>7779245
He's completely right though

Out of all the popular radical life extension technologies (singularities, artificial limbs grown through stem cells, magic) this is the most likely to actually bear credible returns in our lifetime. It's not a stretch to imagine fully artificial organs and integrated supportive exoskeletons, which would significantly improve living conditions for elderly and reasonably increase their lifespan by significant amounts
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>>7779437
>> integrated supportive exoskeleton
Wouldn't that be an endoskeleton?

It is about as much of a stretch to grow organs as it is to make artificial organs and limbs.

For limbs we have yet to develop a stable method to send and receive signals from them. We don't even understand what signals we should send for texture, thermal, and nociception. We don't know how to make artificial skin with the require sensing capability and durability.

We don't have a good way to attach prosthetic limbs to people. Current prosthetic limbs are less capable than their biological counterparts. They don't last as long and they aren't as strong.
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>>7777777
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>>7779484
>Aren't as strong
Some are even stronger. It's not that I'm claiming we have all the technology available now.
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>>7777777
>If I won the lottery.
From the look of the digits, you did.
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>>7777777
get goes to a really good productive and informative thread

is /sci/ insecure circlejerking over?
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>>7779737
No, half ore more of the thread has been "Fuck you OP" for not making the get 1 trillion lions vs the Sun of no more IQ threads.
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>>7779754
yeah there is a good solution to that for the people that post these threads

JUST STOP SHITPOSTING
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>>7779757
>Not letting the thread go down with 777 replies.

Also OP post isn't even a shitpost, or at least not a blatant one like some of the topics/posts made in effort for GET that have been deleted.
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>>7779762
what

i wasn't talking about OP at all
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Wow. An actually interesting topic on this board which happened upon a get.
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Actual cyborg here. 2 implants currently, deciding on third. Open to questions.
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>>7779778
Cochlear implants?
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>>7777777
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>>7779804

No, baha: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone-anchored_hearing_aid

It has bluetooth as a bonus, lets me stream music, calls and any other audio from my phone directly into my head.
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>>7777777
First I've heard of this, but biomechatronics has *always* been a passion of mine. I would love to major in it, but I should probably work on earning the money first.
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>>7779778
Can you go swimming without issue?
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>>7779834
Yeah, it is really neat. Here's a TED talk about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDsNZJTWw0w
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>>7779841

Yes. The electronic part pops off. What's actually embedded in my skull is the transcutaneous titanium post that it attaches to.

My other current implant is a subdermal nfc chip which, as it's under the skin, doesn't have any trouble with water.
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>>7779778
>Open to questions.

Does part of it unclip to make it a lower profile so your pillow doesn't tear it off in the middle of the night?

What does it feel like having something attached to your bone? Like a root canal tooth or finger nail perhaps?
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>>7779850
>Does part of it unclip to make it a lower profile so your pillow doesn't tear it off in the middle of the night?

Yeah the part with the actual electronics and battery in it. The post just above yours explains more

>What does it feel like having something attached to your bone? Like a root canal tooth or finger nail perhaps?

I don't notice it most of the time but if I focus I can feel it, like a slight pinching in that spot. If I raise my eyebrows all the way I can feel the skin pulling on that spot.

I've gotten to where I can sleep on that side, I couldn't for most of a year. It constantly forms a slight crust like what seals your eyes shut when you're sleeping and you rub out of them when you awake, from the skin trying and failing to heal over it. This is much worse right after the surgery when you're waiting for the skin to close tightly around the abutment.

It offers such huge utility to me that I just kinda deal with it. It doesn't hurt, and feels more familiar and normal with time.
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>>7777803
>>7777805
>>7777806
>>7777810
>>7777812
>>7777814
>>7777817
>>7777826
>>7777835
>>7777837
>>7777842
>>7777843
>This upset over a post #

>>7779822
That's pretty awesome. Do you think they'll overcome the issue of the skin constantly trying to heal over it?
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>>7779864
>It constantly forms a slight crust like what seals your eyes shut when you're sleeping and you rub out of them when you awake, from the skin trying and failing to heal over it. This is much worse right after the surgery when you're waiting for the skin to close tightly around the abutment.

So, it is a bit like a normal piercing.

Pretty neat though.
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>>7779844
What's the subdermal chip for?
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>>7779484
All of those are true

But we're talking about a timeline of 60-70 years. It's ridiculous to think that none of these problems will be solved in that time period, do you think research for this or technology in general is just going to stagnate suddenly?

We don't understand any of those problems right now, but millions are being poured into most of them - it's not going to be surprising if half or all of them are solved in the next twenty years.
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>128 replies
>10 are OP subject matter
>rest are GET masturbation
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>>7779842
Holy crap dude, I had no idea they were actually this far. This is fucking awesome
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>>7779437
What does preventing our telomeres from shortening (or even lengthening them) count as?
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>>7779691
>> some are even stronger
Which ones? Extra moved goal post points if they have a strength to weight ratio better than human limbs

>>7780722
I would not be surprised if it took 50 years to solve some of these problems. Anything biology is hard, your limbs may be mechanical but they still have to interface with biology. Prosthetic limbs and other medical devices are tested for years. We cannot test them faster than this

>> millions are being poured into them
Millions is not that much money in this day and age.
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>>7780996
Mostly s4s and pol crossposting.
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>>7778791
>Just like you can't tell I'm wearing two right now.

>mfw technology

This is truly the 21st Century.
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>>7781648
Sauce?
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>>7781177
Yeah, it's pretty impressive stuff.
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BIOENGINEERING
IS
A
MEME
E
M
E
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>>7782007
I've posted the TED talk in this thread where it shows some outstanding non-meme progress.
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>>7781708
http://www.wired.com/2013/12/balancing-cube/

https://youtu.be/n_6p-1J551Y
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>>7777839
biomedical engineering is probably the most widely available degree program, but it's usually taught as a masters degree rather than a BS. So majoring in ME, EE, bio/computer sciences or physics will probably lead you in the right direction.
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>>7777816
> Future Field

Every retard undergrad thinks this. I assure you, by the time you graduate, you'll be thankful just to have a job and be making money.
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I'm halfway through a ME degree with no plans for getting my Master's. Anyone think I'd be able to work in this field?
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>>7782007
>one of highest employment opportunities and growing
>research is available
>fairly high paying job
The only downside to biomedical engineering is that you need to specialize, and that requires an MS or PhD, it's a very reasonable field for somebody to focus their life on.
How is it meme?
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>>7782441
You better be pumping out co-ops and internships if you don't plan on getting a masters degree. It's a fairly broad field so you might want to pick a specialization (industrial, auto, aerospace, etc) when you become a junior or senior and do internships at those types of places.
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>>7782446
My school has an integrated co-op program, so I've finished my 2B term so far and worked at 3 jobs, and I'm working at my 4th job now.
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>>7782415
>http://www.wired.com/2013/12/balancing-cube/

What a fucking shitty article. Every paragraph spells out fear and doom for the human race at the hands of robots. Is the blogger Amish?
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>>7778914
He's right, I got all the numbers on different tickets.

Money comes and goes, though. Gets last forever.
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>>7777777
Checked.
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>>7777777
At least /sp/ didn't steal our get this time.
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Make this a sticky thread
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>>7777777
go! play the lottery now
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>>7783718
Someone in my town won last night, but not me.
I only play when the jackpot exceeds 500 million, so it'll be a while before I play again.

Definitely if the jackpot hits $777,777,777.

Which is more likely now that they've lowered the odds to win.

>>7783405
Thanks.
>>7783458
From the lack of discussion, /sci/ didn't want this thread lol.
>>7783471
Biomech sticky would be neat if we regularly put into in it.
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>>7777777
>tfw you'll never have septs
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>>7783726
>I only play when the jackpot exceeds 500 million
I used to do this except my number was $584M because the odds of winning are 292201338:1 and a ticket costs $2. However, that was just lazy math I was using to justify doing something stupid (playing powerball). The real number is much much higher.

First, powerball keeps 38% of the jackpot. So that brings the number up to $712686190.

Second, federal taxes are going to take 39.6%, which brings the number up to $1179944023.

Third, you have to factor in the probability of splitting the jackpot. That is impossible to calculate exactly because it depends on how many people play. The number of people who play increases as the jackpot increases.

So, bottom line is that you shouldn't even consider playing until about $1.17B, and even then, it's still a bad bet.
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>>7777777
ayyyyyyy nice get
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>>7783804
Eh, I botched the math somewhere, it's actually $1.56B. Not including state taxes and the split-jackpot possibility.
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>>7783471
Make it yourself, bitch.
Who are you to give orders?
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>>7783804
>>7783811
Ah. I agree, but I'd have the devil's own job of telling that to the lucky bastard down the road that won.

>>7783790
Cheer up, Anon. There's 8888888 and 9999999 to look forward to.
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>>7777777
>seven sevens
>seven feet in the pic
>'7' looks like an upside-down foot

pure wizardry!
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>>7783864
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How long do you think it'll take for functional dexterous hand prostheses?
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Since the septs only brought enough luck for someone in my town to win the lottery but not me, I need to focus it further. What's a good luck-focusing lens?
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*midlife crisis intensifies*
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>>7784052
Seven sevens and seven shoes that look like sevens?

I can't accept this. there's some conspiracy going on here.
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>>7784374
Why so?
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When do you think we'll have implants in the body to improve human function? Like something to regulate body temps so you're able to withstand extreme cold, like the dude who runs marathons in the arctic circle in bike shorts
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>>7784052
Cannot fucking unsee.
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>>7785802
That requires emulating or augmenting more than just the mechanical function of limbs, so it'll be a while.
>>7785978
Kek.
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>>7784052
Holy shit illuminati confirmed
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>>7783864
>>7784052
Wow. OP did know.
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wow
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>>7786801
Yes.

Do you think further development into artificial muscles will lead to people with prosthetics being barred from some sporting events?
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>>7781648
Oh my God I'm cumming.

Oh my God angular momentum.

Lie group satori reached.
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>>7783818
Yeah but 7777777 is seven times seven (not to mention the seven contraptions in OP's pic)
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>>7785802
>Like something to regulate body temps so you're able to withstand extreme cold
You mean, like, a coat?
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>>7777777
Lmao
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>>7777777

You have a chance to make your dreams real. Belive that you can do it.
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>>7777777
PogChamp
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>>7787641
Kek.
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>>7777777
HA!
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>>7779778
Did you want these augmentations, or did you never ask for this?
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>>7788703
Aren't there functional prosthetic eyes now?
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>>7777777
Jesus
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>>7789426
That looks even stranger at a distance.
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>>7777777
I've met the guy, he doesn't understand biology as well as it seems
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>>7783864
>>7784052
this.
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>>7789902
That's a shame.
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>>7789949
Yea, I felt bad at first because you could hear the micro and mol genetics big wigs poking fun at him during his talk. But when I heard him say his wife stopped prescribing her patients antibiotics (she's an MD) because of his research 'dogma' I stood up and walked out of the seminar. The physics and comp sci guys were loving it though.
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>>7790207
Hearing a baseless rumor made you walk out of a seminar?

I don't see how not knowing much biology would affect this guy. He still does great stuff regardless.
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>>7777777
goddammit
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>>7777777
first for /balt/
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>>7777777
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You have passed the test. The Grand Council awaits you.

>>>/s4s/>>>/s4s/>>>/s4s/
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>>7790685
>/balt/
What's that?

>>7790764
Haha, I might stop by.
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>>7792659
Some general thread on /int/. /balt/ is where people from Baltic nations circlejerk.
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>>7790355
Not a rumor, he himself said this during the seminar.
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>>7792895
I see.

>>7794359
That's a bit disheartening.
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>>7794359
>>7794431
Why would it be disheartening? Are you guys just looking for any tiny thing to nit-pick on this guy? He's gotten more shit done in prosthetics than literally anyone in history.
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>>7794498
It doesn't make any of his work less spectacular at all!

I just don't see how advocating to cease medication because a product that currently doesn't exist will later become available is a good idea.
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>>7784052
Bump for awareness of OP's brilliance.
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>>7777777
fukin ell
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>>7777777
bruh heptacular
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>>7777777
!?
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>>7777777
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>>7777827
I'm on it
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>>7777777
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PEANUTBUTTER
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>>7777777
Better this than [s4s] stealling it I guess.

Anyways, checking on behalf of /tg/ and the God-Emperor.
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>>7777777
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I like how this thread was immediately off topic from the first reply.
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>>7799474
That's what GETs tend to do to threads.
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>>7799474
The whole thread is actually on-topic.

>>7783864
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