No. Coffee is a drug like any other and is pretty neutral in its health effects both chronic and acute. It is not a method of societal control lmao. Infact, I read somewhere that the ottoman empire actually banned coffee from the masses.
OP here. I have drunk so much that my lifts have become shit at the gym due to lack of sleep. I went from 145 kg squats for 10 reps to struggling to do 135 kg for 5. I accept that this is my retardation and separate from my main point, but put it up as a small reason why this "coffee is for le closers" meme needs to die.
>There are people that drink coffee from a cheap drip Keurig or Mr.Coffee bought from Walmart >There are people that drink Maxwell house and cheap shit >There are people that put obscene amounts of creamer and sugar to make their bitter coffee bearable instead of getting quality beans and using better brewing methods
>>7770758 >Is coffee a method of societal control? Yes. It puts your mind in a "get stuff done" mode and tends to inhibit deeper introspection or abstract thought about your environment, especially when combined with your workplace environment, chronic stress, and constant demands. In short, it allows you to do things every single day, you should not have the energy or resolve to do. It's part of the daily ritual.
So yes. Whether it's engineered, opportunistic, or completely inadvertent, it's part of a bigger picture that keeps this unsustainable, miserable, fucked up machine ticking away.
>How can it be so universally praised by the media when it affects sleep? This is stupid. It's culturally praised, and plenty of things affect sleep. Caffeine only really affects sleep quality anyway.
>What is your opinion on the health effects? It's.... probably carcinogenic. Very mildly. It probably contributes to sleep deprivation, elevates cortisol levels, and allows people to be otherwise overworked. Which leads to obesity and a great susceptibility to other health problems.
Caffeine, theobromine, theophylline, flananols, are all fine on their own. I'm drinking yerba mate mixed with cocoa beans and sugar as I type this. Tea, and l-theanine though, I find makes me drowsy and kind of stupid over time. Maybe the fluoride content. Yes, fluoride. Deal with it.
>>7770758 Societal control, no. It's about advertising their product to keep up consumption. If people realized how much coffee affects blood pressure and potentially causes circulatory problems, coffee sales would drop. Now they just pay folks to praise coffee once or twice a year, and maybe a few stupid grad students to work on the benefits of coffee consumption.
Same goes for many other foods (every year we get a couple "miracle foods"). It's just manufacturer/importer associations trying to create more market/improve image.
Personally I stopped drinking coffee regularly since '14 IRRC. It really fucks up your sleep (waking up is so much harder) and gives you high blood pressure, which, in the long run, is very damaging.
Of course drinking a small amount of turkish coffee daily might not be harmful, but drinking stronger coffees and/or relying on them to wake you up is not healthy.
>>7770758 No one pushes it on you though. I first tried espresso just because I was walking somewhere with a friend. Now I love coffee. It seems too accidental and random of a habit to be planned out by anyone.
>>7771707 The main reason it was banned was the fact that people would go to a coffeehouse to drink it, and socialize with others. During the empire, any chance that people getting together and talking anti government was alarming to the empire.
Its like office boys around the water cooler talking about unions
>>7770957 Coffee is a drink, a beverage. Tobacco is a drug, you do not eat it, you smoke it or press it to your gums, thus absorbing the drug (nicotine). Coffee at least provides hydration and some minor calories to the body. Unfortunately tobacco does not, hence where this difference arises.
Tobacco has more serious side effects of use, but even then /sci/ does not condemn tobacco when used responsibly by people fully aware of its effects. In fact, nicotine is a highly-effective treatment for ADD. Nicotine patches were as effective as ritalin in young adults.
>>7772040 >Weed is actually associated with everything you listed except for the small penis thing. It also helps with mental disorders. I want to believe, give me those peer-reviewed studies, mate. Even with just the abstract available I'll be fine.
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