Note: I am talking about NON-AMERICAN countries where you can major in Medicine, Law, etc as an UNDERGRADUATE)
Some high school students who got extremely good grades in their finals (i.e. good enough for Medicine in non-American countries) decide to major in stuff such as Physics, Anthropology, Linguistics, Chemistry, etc. in the hope of doing research in the future. Why would they pick that?
>If you don't have anything published, your funding will be cut and you will have no income
>There is no guarantee that you will like research and most people hate if over time
>Jobs are meant to be monotonous, not fun
>They can easily major in Medicine, Law, Actuarial Science, Dentistry science, etc and switch to research later on or do a Master's degree in their area of interest
>The market for researchers is very bad at the moment - it is 100+ people competing for a tenured professorship post and it will not be you getting that job
>Being an adjunct professor sucks as all the contracts are short-termed
>It is hard to even secure a mortgage with such unstable employment
>If you can't find any professorship job, it is hard to find anyone else to hire you as they know that you will go back to academia as soon as you find another professorship job, so chances are you will either end up unemployed or working at McDonalds during this time
I like biology. I like biology with weird organisms (insects). So I do master's thesis work with them.
I tried premed.
I tried pharmacy.
I tried dental shit.
It's all boring, dumb, and requires you to interact and look at humans all day long. Fuck. That. Only soulless ching chongs and indians see it as the only way out
You aren't even looking for a discussion. You're just here to shit on the same responses you get every time you repost this with your exact same same fucking answers.
Would you stop spamming this board with your shitposts?
I left eletronic engineering to graduate on mathematics. Why?
I like math.
I like being an assistant professor.
>Jobs are meant to be monotonous, not fut
If that's your point of view, you'll never get a "satisfactory" answer.
Also, consider suicide.
>I like being an assistant professor
You could have earned more as an engineer.
Finding this job is tough as fuck. Someone will end up as a professor, but that will not be you. And really, research is not fun.
You won't get promoted unless the other professor retires or dies.
It is a fact that jobs are not meant to be fun. You are meant to help a company or organisation generate a profit.
(first time poster in this thread)
I agree with you that it's tough as fuck and I myself remove myself from academia because I think it's mad to stay there.
However, some of your reasoning like
>Jobs are meant to be monotonous, not fun
>You are meant to
sound extremely absurd. Nobody has to confirm to any guidelines. You can of course think about it and come to the conclusion that it's the best thing to do, to conform I mean, but to formulate it like life is some axiomatic playground and the rules are set is absurd.
Nevermind that you have no idea what the world will be like in 2030.
>This is the truth. Even my parents would agree.
I don't think that's an argument, but I also don't think anybody here will change their opinions.
>Yeah, so why would anyone pick research?
I'm not an American and I didn't go to university to get a better job. Nor do I plan to become rich. It's a question of interest.
I refrain from academia because I hate stuff like writing grand proposals, which take so much time and doesn't make you smarter.
(To argue your opponents point here: A capitalist mindset is a meme - the only important part is health insurance when old. When it comes to fucking around, working on your fitness and social skills in your mid twenties will get you a more rewarding sex life than becoming a finance millionaire with 40. Working towards having great vacations is working to not work - doing Couchsurfing with no money in your pocket in your early years is more rewarding than taking your ol' wife to the Bahamas or whatever.)
>You could have earned more as an engineer.
Some people consider other factors besides money when choosing their professions.
Engineering is really tough. Especially when you know you will spend all your time working on projects that you have no personal interest, just to help a company or organization generate profit.
I find that tough as fuck.
>And really, reserach is not fun.
Why someone would devote a lifetime to research if not for fun or personal fulfillment? We all know that is not for money.
Jobs can be fun. I'm quite happy with my work.
Meeting people who share the same interests as me.
Do researches based on my interests.
New students every semester. Make new friends.
Btw, the "other teacher" is a great friend. I do not expect him to retire either die.
And I earn enough to satisfy my material ambitions.
But obviously, people are different. They have different opinions, ambitions and purposes.
>Why someone would devote a lifetime to research if not for fun or personal fulfillment?
Because they were stupid and had no idea research is tough?
>Btw, the "other teacher" is a great friend. I do not expect him to retire either die.
Lol this is bullshit.
Most likely because they want to do independent or meaningful stuff for the society.
Countries won't usually dis encourage students heading this path, as this is the kind of job that generates high value for the country, although it's overcrowded as fuck and is difficult to come with good ideas.
Somehow we should be grateful for these students to exist, even if its a though path. Compare USA or Europe against these countries that generate revenue by doing "brain dead" manufacturing (not that applied engineering is bad, the problem is when no body want to focus in research, bad for the country).
you stupid idiot, the thread has nothing of substance other than the "30% of people are satisfied with their job" shit, and it's the same stupid fucking memes you've been throwing every time you post the thread here like taking this number to imply "everyone should be (and eventually is) bored with their jobs"
you are stupid beyond salvation
>You can do research with a Medicine/Engineering/Actuarial Science/Law/Economics/Pharmacy degree too?
This shows how much little you know about research, come back when you know what you're talking about
>Most likely because they want to do independent or meaningful stuff for the society
Kek and how many of them actually succeed?
>priorities are job security and a reasonably large paycheck
Why isn't is everyone else's priority though? Sucks to lose your job and having to work at Burger King.
>"but jobs are meant to be boring!" shit in every thread
This is the truth though.
the thread has nothing of substance other than the "30% of people are satisfied with their job" shi
How so? That thread pointed out the truth.
>people aren't spineless cowards like you and take risks
Well, taking the risk is not worth it. Their quality of life will probably be higher as government employees.
>This shows how much little you know about research
These people can do PhDs too? I don't see what I got wrong.