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How does /sci/ feel about Trump cutting funding for research?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/03/03/white-house-proposes-steep-budget-cut-to-leading-climate-science-agency/

> The Trump administration is seeking to slash the budget of one of the government’s premier climate science agencies by 17 percent, delivering steep cuts to research funding and satellite programs

> The proposed cuts to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration would also eliminate funding for a variety of smaller programs, including external research, coastal management, estuary reserves and “coastal resilience,” which seeks to bolster the ability of coastal areas to withstand major storms and rising seas.

> The OMB outline for the Commerce Department for fiscal 2018 proposed sharp reductions in specific areas within NOAA such as spending on education, grants and research. NOAA’s Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research would lose $126 million, or 26 percent, of the funds it has under the current budget. Its satellite data division would lose $513 million, or 22 percent, of its current funding under the proposal.

> The biggest single cut proposed by the passback document comes from NOAA’s satellite division, known as the National Environmental Satellite, Data and Information Service, which includes a key repository of climate and environmental information, the National Centers for Environmental Information.

> Another proposed cut would eliminate a $73 million program called Sea Grant, which supports coastal research conducted through 33 university programs across the country,
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Kind of expected for any republican candidate. The republican party is EXTREMELY anti-intellectual
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>>8720153
A bunch of triggered /pol/tards are going to shit up the thread from here on, but conservatism is literally anti-intellectualism and close-mindedness at its core.
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that will show those tree huggers. yea who cares if some animals extinct and then crops die and a whole bunch of poor ppl starve (me) and then icecaps melt releasing more co2 in a runaway feedback loop. trump is a billionaire he will be on mars by then

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Hey, isn´t good
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>>8720091
>Caring

If we live in a metastable vacuum then somewhere a nucleation event has probably already happened. But, and here's the kicker, you wont know about it, ever, the bubble expands at the speed of light so no light ray will ever be able to reach you before the bubble does.

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hello /sci/ I have a serious problem. my friend has become a literal gay commie, after a Pneumonia vaccination. (I know vaccinations are very harmful)

at first she was a hard core Nazi gal, who was straight and god fearing. but I noticed a radical change in her the first few days after taking the shot. a week after she had denounced her national socialism, which was strange to me. I jokingly insisted that it was the vaccines her Jewish docters gave her. she tells me after each doctor visit she feels increasingly more and more communist, and more and more gay. she actually found a girlfriend.

I'm very worried. are there any psychological side effects to this sort of vaccination that explains this?
I know there is a chemical in pesticides that turns frogs gay? could they have slipped her some of that shit?
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You wanna know what's sad? I can't tell if OP is joking if serious.
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Let's posit autism = communist liberals. Explains /sci/ and /adv/.
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>>8719892
I am absolutely not joking and any medical/chemical/phycological explainations, suggestions, or speculatuons about whatthe fuck is happening will be greatly appreciated

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"1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature."
Are these good assumptions? Are they correct?
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>>8719871
Not really, 3. sounds more like a physics approach. Mathematical discoveries aren't made by graphing numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrMi2kNDtQI
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>>8719939
Certainly many discoveries have been made by first looking at data, then guessing a pattern, then providing a theoretical basis for that pattern.
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>>8719871
>jew finds magic number

Surprise

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I think it attracts too many retards that don't realize the math required to push the field forward.
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>>8719595
Yeah, shit is sad desu.
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>>8719595
Retard here trying to learn math to get into this.
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>>8719595
Yeah, not keen on how big it's becoming. It's interesting, but you know a bunch of people are doing it for money, or because it's the "next big thing", and I really wish they'd fuck off back to software development.

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In terms of colonizing other star systems, wouldn't small objects like asteroids, moons, and dwarf planets make more sense to develop, as their low escape velocities mean it would be easier to extract and launch resources in space to be used on-orbit?

A colony ship immediately investing all of their resources into trying to build a self sustaining civilization at the bottom of a deep gravity well would make progress difficult, as they'd have to spend much more effort trying to synthesize fuels in order to shuttle mass back and forth from surface to orbit and vice versa, as well as requiring much more complex and difficult to build rocket systems. By contrast, a colony ship using several asteroids or moons to gather resources would be able to use relatively simple propulsion technology and wouldn't have to spend much time producing propellant as not much would be needed by comparison.

We already know that every element we use on Earth can be found in much greater concentrations and in much larger quantities than here on Earth, so why wouldn't the case be the same for other solar systems?

Maybe trying to find and study Earthlike planets has little or nothing to do with eventual colonization efforts. Finding asteroid belts and other small objects is probably far more important.
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Earth-like planets provide atmospheric pressure, radiation shielding, and would have water. Colonizing is about sending supplies for eventual self-sustain, not so much about launching supplies back.
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>>8719573

I'm talking about supplies the colony ship would use in space. If a colony ship is large and industrially capable enough to last through the several hundred year transit, it would be silly to abandon it once you arrived in your target solar system. Such a generation ship would have radiation shielding built in so it wouldn't be an issue unless you went too close to a Jupiter-like planet's magnetic field or something. It makes way more sense to continue living on the ship, using it's industrial capability along with resources from small objects to build new habitats and machinery etc.

Eventually you would be able to set up a new industrial base on one of the planets or moons of the system, but until then you'd want to spend your limited time and energy to increase your ship's habitable area and resource stocks so that if something goes wrong on one of your surface colonies you aren't fucked.

Also water is one of the most common substances in the solar system, and is probably just as common elsewhere. Small icy moons in our own solar system easily have more water than the entire planet Earth.
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>>8719609
Yes, small icy moons in our own solar system easily have more liquid water than the entire planet Earth. No additional energy is required to obtain that water. It is immediately safe to consume, too. We also have the R&D, currency, technology, industry, and cooperative ability to build and maintain such a generational ship to operate. It's not as if developing more robust launch systems would pave the way for more feasible, efficient means of transit from surface to orbit, let alone provide new techniques through said innovation.

I'm sure there are no good reasons you would want to take advantage of a planet with its own magnetic field, atmosphere, hydrosphere, solar cycle, and potential deposits of more fuel, and mineral resources, than you would know what to do with. It makes more sense to take the time to build habitable mega-structures using those resources, and fly them out some odd hundred light years away, just to build more.

Imagine the contributions he could of brought to the mathematical world.
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A lot
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>>8717856
Honestly, being in prison he probably has better access to recent mathematical work and knowledge than he ever did in that cabin.

If anything he has a better chance at contributing in prison than in that cabin.
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>>8717865
What if he stayed at Harvard/Michigan?

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if burnt/well done food causes cancer, why is it legal to sell?
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>>8717612
Air causes cancer. Why are you allowed to breathe it?
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>>8717612
Because it makes money, and if it makes money, some of it pass to the state. So the state says: fuck if this causes cancer, it also causes money.
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>>8717612
For the same reason people are allowed to sell guns.

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Is this a good book /sci/?
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Pls respond

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Are psychedelics the ultimate red pill?
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If there was anything that you could call the real life red pill, psychedelics would be it.
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>>8711350
Einstein was using em
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>>8711354
>>8711350

So where Watson and Crick when they discovered the DNA helix, and Werner-Lee when he invented the internet.

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Hey, guys! Do any of you happen to be aware of papers on bullying and its psychological effects? Sorry to be bothering you, I just thought, hey, it's worth a shot...

>pic not related, just a model of the 12th grade bacalaureat, the highschool graduation exam here...
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Almost forgot, just to make this an open discussion, do you consider bullying bad or strengthening for the individual?
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>>8721345
Depends on the severity and on the subjects (Personality) and their environments (Family, friends). I would probably never say that it has any particularly "strengthening" effects. I have been bullied in my life and it made building trust and confidence harder. There of course always is reason for mistrust and self doubt, but usually it doesn't really help you in life. All it does is establish avoidant tendencies. The feeling that this might be advantageous at times is just part of the pattern.
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>>8721374
I see...I've been subjected to bullying too, although I wouldn't say that it made up most of my life. Now I'd say it's just not that important anymore.

However, I've seen a massive shift in public mentality nowadays towards ostracizing the very bullies that were doing that themselves. I see that as proof of the fact that bullying is just a reality check at a much too young age to be socially acceptable according to what the norms in our modern society demand of the individual.

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Redpill me on gravitational lensing /sci/.
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you can try it at home, just take a photo of your mom
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>>8721101
INCLUDE ME IN LE REDDIT SCREENCAP GUIS
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>>8721101
OP BTFO

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Is there an antiparticle for every particle?
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>>8721032
Yes.
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>>8721043
Thanks anon
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If anti means only electric charge, then neutral particles like photons, neutrinos and gluons don't

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Do you need to study math and/or be really good at math to be considered intelligent?
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>>8721001
>wants to be considered intelligent
pleb
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>>8721001
No.
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>>8721001
From what I have seen smart people are good at math and dumb people are bad at math.
I firmly believe there is direct correlation between mathematical ability and intelligence.

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Are you telling me that a scientific project that cost several billion dollars of tax payer's money to setup and has no tolerance for failure, will not sometimes manipulate and fabricate results and theories to justify their funding?
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>>8720784
and this is why scientists support big government with high taxes

because if the state doesn't put a gun to everyone's head so that they fund even the most meaningless research, the scientists would have no way to con actual hard-working taxpayers out of their money
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>>8720784
kinda hard to do that since everything they release is peer-reviewed and the personalities that work in 'high science' care about getting actual results rather than taking the easy way and fabricating shit
I mean, they didn't study for 10 years to fake science
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>>8720798
>kinda hard to do that

Not really. All you need to do is rig the detectors at source to shape a noise signal to your liking, concoct a random theory to explain it, and publish it. Its not that hard.

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