why would you ruin your chances out of spite? what, you think you deserve a girl's best physical years? nobody deserves anything. if the most fundamentally attractive men are willing to fuck women when the women are young, why shouldn't they do it? what's wrong with taking what you want when it's available to you and it's not hurting anyone? well, not hurting anyone who isn't a tantrum-throwing baby who wants everything for himself, including the bodies of other people.
>>26535707 >guy in his prime of late 20s-early 30s >used goods woman both physically and mentally >somehow she deserves him and he should be happy since she ignored him during her prime years >now wants him during his prime years ???
>>26535707 Because people dont change their personality that way. If woman want to settle she doesnt really love you she is doing it because she cant fuck around anymore and that is different. If I could fuck around I wouldnt want to do it, I always wanted a relationship that has some meaning. Why would I want a woman that wants me only because she cant get better when I never cared about that? Why do women must always push to the fucking extremes and abuse all power available? I dont want someone who cant act with their own mind. Its even better to be autistic lonely guy than having a woman like that because you are not only having bad body but also being as retarded as she is.
>>26536075 i'm not saying these women deserve you, i'm saying it's silly to reject them only for spite. as in you're hurting yourselves for no good reason. >>26536106 chances of being with a woman, if that's what you want. if you don't want it, then whatever, it doesn't matter. but i have a hard time believing all the passion towards women on this board comes from indifference towards them. nothing's wrong with it if you don't want it. it's the righteousness about it that's weird.
>>26536160 >you're hurting yourselves for no good reason. Are you sure we're not simply protecting ourselves for a very good reason?
You're apparently assuming that the number of partners a girl had has no impact at all on her mind, behiavior, personality and that, a girl who's been gangbanged by hundreds of men in the locker rooms and every toilet on campus can still be loving, nurturing and loyal (and have a satisfying relationship with a less experienced man).
Unless you never left your room, or you're living among mormons or something, a simple look around you will show you that this simply isn't the case.
>>26536370 you're the one arguing the extreme. you're saying absolutely not, women who are sexually adventurous are tainted, they can't be loving and nurturing. i'm saying maybe. it's not absolute. it's sad to completely remove yourself from consideration because you believe in this unmoving absolute. >>26536391 good point
>>26535707 Because they're admitting that what they are doing is retarded WHILE DOING IT you fucking imbecile fucking faggot retard. "Oh no i'm so young and naive, I can't believe I am attracted to another asshole again! oops I guess I can't possibly stop it!!!" Then after years of this fucking garbage, they expect "dorky sweethearts", who they ignored during that entire time, to come crawling back and accept them after they made a comedy of errors for the first 30 years of their life.
>>26535707 here. i'm not the cuck. you guys are. you have this weird requirement that women go through their youths being physically attractive and desiring of sex, yet refusing all advances so they can remain chaste while waiting for you to get your shit together. i consider that selfish and delusional, but i'll admit that's just my own opinion. but you have this requirement, and don't do anything about it. you sneer at these phantom women who are "probably going to" go after you when they're older. but that's it. you don't do anything to try and find women who fit your requirements. you only mock the women who don't. >>26536625 yes yes the old fallbacks. i seem to recall the bar on that chart for "20+ sexual partners" not being zero. just lower than before. i'm only saying possible, you guys are saying never. that chart proves me right more than anything.
>>26535707 >why would you ruin your chances out of spite? It's not spite, it's a logical conclusion not to fall in love with someone who is clearly irresponsible. If you have had 30 past sexual partners, half of whom were known thugs or assholes, you are irresponsible. You cannot be the mother to my children.
>what, you think you deserve a girl's best physical years? No? Nobody ever said this. I'm glad you are so sanctimoniously smug about creating a straw man and then beating it down though.
> nobody deserves anything. Ok dude you are such an edgy philosopher 9/10 gj job
> if the most fundamentally attractive men are willing to fuck women when the women are young, why shouldn't they do it? Woman: it's a bad idea to get with a really hot guy who is a player and flirts with every girl Woman: hmm what should I do? Woman: I think i will get with the really hot guy anyway :()
>what's wrong with taking what you want when it's available to you and it's not hurting anyone? Woman:OMFG i can't believe chad :'( Woman: he actually FLIRT WITH OTHER gIrl who coOULD of THOOUGHT IT??!!!!??? He dump me after i had sex with him :( so sad :( please like this status if you agre :() Woman: he broke my heart and the principled, moral Godly men who I'm ignoring have their feelings hurt, and now everybody around me knows that I'm sexually irresponsible and I make bad decisions in important life matters, and my genitals itch and I have to go get tested for Herpes and the clap, but it's ok because according to a dumb faggot poster on 4chan, this interaction "didn't hurt anyone!"
> well, not hurting anyone who isn't a tantrum-throwing baby who wants everything for himself, including the bodies of other people. just a bunch of buzz words and shallow ad hom. attacks
Step your game up son it was easy to totally debunk your post and humiliate you.
>>26536749 >you have this weird requirement that women go through their youths being physically attractive and desiring of sex, yet refusing all advances so they can remain chaste while waiting for you to get your shit together. Literally WHAT the fuck are you talking about? This is nothing like I have ever seen on /r9k/. Nobody here thinks anything remotely close to that.
>>26536160 Its not rejecting them out of spite retard, its rejecting them because they are obviously unfaithful whores >girls just wanna have fun!! Fine, but i dont want a wife whos slept with half the town
>>26535707 >what's wrong with taking what you want when it's available to you and it's not hurting anyone? Do you know how many young sluts I know who thought this exact same shit and then they end up pregnant with no money or get a horrible lifelong STD, or simply have their minds/innocence destroyed after getting fucked and dumped mercilessly by a thick cock muscle man? Yeah, sure, "it doesn't hurt anybody." Tell that to Marta who has Herpes or Sally who is on OKCupid selling her mixed race child to any beta provider who will bite. Having an accidental child in youth is a great way to consign yourself to poverty forever. But if you have no goals in life and only strive for mediocrity then sure, waste your youth fucking around irresponsibly instead of studying and learning about the world.
>>26536447 >you're saying absolutely not, women who are sexually adventurous are tainted, they can't be loving and nurturing This is indeed what I'm saying.
>i'm saying maybe. it's not absolute. Here's a door. 50% of the time it leads to Hell, 49% of the time it leads in a dead end but when you get out you're very tired and fast forwarded 5 years, 1% of the time it leads to heaven. Do you walk through it?
Look, I'm not trying to convince you, our worldviews are just different.
There's a vocal minority of anons who are entitled, Elliot-minded fools, whatever, but most of us are just sad I think.
The deal that is offered to me is to get with a woman who had all her meaningful experiences 10 years ago, all her important memories with other people, a woman who will never live meaninful/innocent experiences with me. A woman who sucked Chad's dick in an empty classroom after 5 minutes of knowing him but will require of me that I take her to 50 dates before faking her attraction to me. I'm not even talking about her body being past her prime, the possiblity of divorce if there is a marriage, stds, pride, I'm simply talking about emotional availability. Such a woman will never want me ever, at all, no amount of lifting or money will change that. Why would anyone proceed with that deal? Why would I get with someone who will never ever be emotionally available to me as I am to them?
Somewhat relevant (not completely, but the general feeling and the comments). https://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/
Whatever, man. I'm don't want to be depressing but that's how I see it.
>>26536473 I was responsible in my early 20s and built my fortune and empire while controlling my hedonistic urges and shunning heathens. I demand that my future wife has avoided "exploring herself" in her early 20s (read: getting drunk and fucking strangers or getting gang banged and then trying LSD and other "cool middle class drugs"). Too bad I haven't found a single woman yet who fits the bill and isn't a total autist. ANY woman with ANY kind of social skills whatsoever has fucked at least 15 men by the time she hit 25.
This is it boys. This is the proof you need. 1:1 lifelong relationships with women are N O T P O S S I B L E. Just erase the thought out of your mind. It doesn't matter if you are handsome, nice, have money, good with kids, perfect in every way. Listen to these women telling THEIR OWN EXPERIENCES. Women are fucking WHORES and will never be satisfied unless they are FUCKING STRANGERS EVERY DAY. This is the nature of a woman, it can't be changed. That's simply what they do. If you try to wife a whore it will just blow up in your face eventually. After the first 7 years of marriage, or sometimes even sooner than that, you will just simply stop having sex because she refuses every time. At that point, what's the difference between your marriage and between single?
>>26537682 >"i might miss out on stomething thus i'll break up with someone i've been with for years" thought That's the core of it. The desire to keep options open indefinitely, to not make a choice, to never settle because platinum Chad might be just around the corner. They want their cake, yours, mine, the bakery and they want it all for free.
The worst thing is that nowadays, they usually get it.
My mom was a smart woman so I never fell for the players that fucked 50 women.
I only slept with one man and I'm still with him. The only current complaints I have now is the overwhelming amount of men who keep trying to come on to me and trying to have sex with me or date me, both friends, strangers, and acquaintances.
I'm not even tempted but its making me feel squished and uncomfortable. Is it really that hard out there for a man to find a woman?
>>26537906 I dont fucking know. Im in the military and every single ugly ass marine around here has a gf. No matter how scrawny, fat, or ugly that piece of shit someone will give him the time of day. Im the one guy in the military that doesnt apply to apparently.
>>26537906 >is it really that hard dating as a guy? yes there are 2 multi-billion dollar industries that exist because dating as a man is absolute shit that's why porn and dating sites exist, they prey on the fact that guys want a relationship, but it's out of most of their control
>>26538119 >men and women have the exact same number of partners >self-reported results on a subject that inevitably has most women lying and providing lower numbers, and men lying and providing higher numbers compared to reality
>>26537792 >they usually get it They become worn out, lonely whores when they hit the age of no return. They cling to a beta and become dependent on him entirely for survival, and are really unhappy about it. I'm just waiting for the day that they're allowed to just drown in the mess they've made for themselves.
>>26537987 Military marriages are notoriously fickle. You want the definition of cuckold, just ask Jody.
>adultery subreddit >surprised that people posting there are involved in adultery >literally the opposite of a representative sample if you are looking at how often women cheat >robots take this as universal proof anyway because it justifies a preconceived opinion that all women are whores which conveniently makes their own unhappiness the fault of everyone else and not themselves >in b4 cuck etc
>>26535707 >what, you think you deserve a girl's best physical years?
What makes you think I don't?
Listen you fucking cunt, this is bait but I'm angry enough to respond as though you're actually female. You know NOTHING of the male psyche. You know NOTHING about what it feels like to endure rejection after rejection after rejection for YEARS, only to be found appealing later on?
And we're expected to like it? Who the fuck do you think you are? Do you have any fucking idea what it does to a man psychologically to be turned away from engaging in our biological purpose? To be told early on that 'oh I'm not into you now but I will be when I'm older hee hee time to call Chad'?
NO YOU DON'T. What makes you think you deserve the full commitment of a guy you would have rejected in your youth to slut it up with Chad?
You know what? I hope to God you find some lowly beta who settles for your ass, and I hope you get cheated on. I hope that lowly beta, by some miracle, finds a smoking hot 18 year old and fucks her in your bed, and I hope when you confront him about it he says
"Oh, well I figured with your past you wouldn't mind. Like you told me, it's just sex."
>>26538081 >>want more >>fucking implying >i can't win either way with some of you bitter deranged faggots. fuck off You just made a post complaining about how your life is not good enough and you want more. And now you're saying you don't want more. Make up your mind. Do you want men to give you attention or don't you?
>>26537270 >The deal that is offered to me is to get with a woman who had all her meaningful experiences 10 years ago, all her important memories with other people, a woman who will never live meaninful/innocent experiences with me. A woman who sucked Chad's dick in an empty classroom after 5 minutes of knowing him but will require of me that I take her to 50 dates before faking her attraction to me. I'm not even talking about her body being past her prime, the possiblity of divorce if there is a marriage, stds, pride, I'm simply talking about emotional availability. Such a woman will never want me ever, at all, no amount of lifting or money will change that. Why would anyone proceed with that deal? Why would I get with someone who will never ever be emotionally available to me as I am to them?
This about sums it all up.
And when you're not down for this raw deal, to be that superman who supports them financially, they call you a manchild, because you're willing to stand up for yourself and not be taken advantage of.
>>26539033 >while you aren't exactly the best pick? In which the best pick is some thug who will use her as an onahole. So you agree that women are sluts incapable of pair-bonding and meaningful monogamous relationships.
I know a 35 years old guy that's been fucking a 18 years old girl, and she's so wet for him she even forgave the fact that he lied about his age. It's never too late to smash the young pussy that we never had a chance to get.
>>26539147 This sounds like Heaven to me. If I could get any woman I wanted as long as I had sex with the ugliest ones...I've never even been able to get an ugly one to like me. I don't care if Mussolini's in charge, this is dope.
I don't. Stop assuming stuff because you want to fight.
Ugly or hot I don't want a idiot rubbing his dick on me. It's annoying.
>>26538826 When did I say I wanted more? I just said it was uncomfortable. I don't need men to try to date me when I already made it clear I'm in a long relationship and I don't need them to pressure me into sex all the time.
Marriage and family related materials. Links http://www.medicaldaily.com/ignorance-bliss-when-it-comes-marriage-fewer-partners-youve-had-more-likely-your-298752 http://socialpathology.blogspot.com.au/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2012/08/more-promiscuity-data.html
The point is interpretation. Your stats are meaningless because all the boys report between 1 and 5 partners and all the girls report between 1 and 2, and because averages are useless for this data since, even if you somehow get people to report accurate numbers, your final result is the same in a situation where Chad fucks 100 women and 99 guys fuck none or in a situation where each man and woman are matched. So what are you trying to describe with such a number that doesn't reflect reality in 2 different ways?
Am I really too tired to make sense or are you a master troll?
That makes sense, evolutionarily speaking. Sex used to correlate to having offspring, and women have to choose the best man to provide and provide for the offspring. Therefore they will always look for a better genetic match, the Platinum Chad. Still not an excuse not to get your shit together and act like a decent person instead of leaving someone for marginally better sperm.
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