Usually something spewed basically out of reflex, normie advice is likely to have never been followed by the normie himself. Normies are notoriously unaware that their favorable circumstances have nothing to do with their attitude, but rather with their genetics and rich upbringing. Nonetheless, they arrogantly tell the less-fortunate that happiness, or lack thereof, is purely a result of mindset.
We all know normies simply feel more happiness and hope than us. We cannot see the world from their perspective, so their advice is useless. Only advice from fellow or former robots is ever going to be helpful.
He's my input: It's nearly impossible to fix all of your social, physical, and sexual problems. But it's not 100% impossible.
>>26483326 You just want to be able to feel bad about yourself and pretend that's somehow ok because you're "born this way", I don't do that for you. >>26483407 The line between those two things is very thin.
>>26483407 This is my take on it too. >32 yo forever alone >mentally unstable mother trained me to have her phobias and would punish happy behavior, having friends, fitting in with no rational explanation >the term "B urself" is a shit term if you are a shitty person >it should be "chose who you want to be"
>>26483574 Would it not be the other way around, with you having the dented view of life, if you are so "not normal" like you pretend to be? Or do you just want to take whatever position sounds the least bad and helps you fit in on /r9k/ and pretend you stand there?
>>26483600 This is just a stupid post. >>26483590 You're the one who says you're a shitty person. If you can't like yourself then of course you won't be yourself. >>26483537 Yeah, because no robots are butthurt. >>26483528 It's the truth.
>>26483724 But it is true, you just don't want to believe it is. >>26483741 It's about the same level as most of the other posts you see on /r9k/. The only difference is that you blindly believe their posts are true and mine aren't. Why would I bother typing out something long? That's useless and pointless for both of us.
>>26483732 As someone who wants to make films this is really infuriating >look at interview with big director >"Oh well if you just work hard and make good films you'll succeed" >mfw their Wikipedia page says they made their first big film through contacts and luck
>>26483654 >If you can't like yourself then of course you won't be yourself.
This is some elite, top tier moronic platitude bullshit right here. It's like shit they write inside those tin foil Dove bar wrappers to make landwhales feel good about themselves while they gorge on chocolate.
Self loathing has been the source of any actual improvement I've made both physically and mentally. "Just love yourself" is the worst of all the normie memes.
>>26483774 >It's about the same level as most of the other posts you see on /r9k/. This is wrong. >The only difference is that you blindly believe their posts are true and mine aren't. This is also wrong. >Why would I bother typing out something long? That's useless and pointless for both of us. So you wouldn't seem like a retard if you're serious or make it obvious that you're shitposting.
>>26483831 Rejection from everyone, being surpassed by people who were given more opportunity, failing at everything despite the effort I put in, never finding anyone who liked me despite "putting myself out there"
now respond with "no but u r rong" or "ur attitude is why ure alone!!1"
>>26483835 It can be a source of motivation, but a vile one. he way I see it for the most, until you like yourself you won't bother changing yourself. When you hate yourself why would you want to spend time on yourself? This reasoning might be as alien to you as your reasoning alien to someone with that attitude.
>>26483864 Well, it probably is. I mean, you are posting here and feeling sad and bitter. I have no pity for "robots" (lonely normies) who just feel sad about their lives and not socializing, robots do not feel sad about that stuff.
>>26483892 It's interesting that you somehow projected an insult onto yourself. Most of the people on this board are "robots" because they are self imposed. They make up problems by living in a hugbox. >oh i never had a chance! people like me just can't do well out there. It's sad.
>>26484047 I never said that. You can strawman all you like to make me out to be an inhuman jerk if that's what makes you feel better. >>26484053 IQ is meaningless. >>26484052 Most people on /r9k/ are normies. Most normies just bitch about their problems all day with other normies. >>26484036 Only if you don't let it infect you.
Simple. It's naivete of another's side of the story, and lack of care for listening.
Most people don't give a shit about those who experienced a much different side.
Example: Say you have a father who's practically worthless and barely experienced REAL LIFE, whereas HIS SON has experienced every single side of the street, including very nearly getting stabbed in the shoulder by a black guy at 8 pm.
They think this is true because they've had acceptance and approval from literally everyone in their lives as the default setting, so normies cannot comprehend that everyone could have a problem with a person, so they can only process it as "that person is the problem"
>>26482696 I fucking hate it when normies use this line of reasoning. By this logic there should be exactly one person in the world at a single moment (or in all of history, depending on how they argue) that has any right to be unhappy.
Life isn't even that hard unless you're born plastered on the absolute bottom and your parents never strived for any upward mobility.
My parents are great but are less intelligent than I am and worked blue collar jobs their whole life. I'm not the type of person who wants too much and anything dealing with woman is just fluff in my eyes.
If you don't get your ass up and strive and make some money at least try to enroll in like a community college or some shit, you deserve to have your life hard.
I learned that my 20s are better than my teen years, people tend to be less excluding snobby shit heads and the ones who still are aren't worth the time. Like this art school guy who comes in my job always invites me to his and his gfs parties.
Not what I meant familia, my point was normies can't understand why some people are more or less despised or looked down on through no real fault of their own so they can only see it as "attitude problem" or "they must be the problem" because they've never been shit on for no reason by people
Didn't say "normies have never had a single problem" though I said they don't understand being the outcast and assume it's the fault of the individual somehow because they've never been on the other side
>>26484285 If you think "normies" have never been shit on for no reason you are a child. >>26484294 You're right it doesn't become true because I say it. I guess you should just stay inside or run away from socialization, that is how you want your life to work after all.
Normies kill me with this shit. It reminds me of that MillionDollarExtreme video, "Sitcoms humor robots" but deeper and it shows how devoid a lot of people are. Platitudes or as I heard a guy refer to it before as "pop culture wisdom" is reflex shit that people who want to sound wise like to spew because these people don't really have a single thought that isn't "me me me" 24/7. Talking about work place bullshit, needing to dominate a conversation with their meaningless garbagio 24/7 it's sickening.
It's pathetic. Like watching a facebook comment of some attention whore who fishes for comments and pity and then some fag comes drops a platitude. Anytime on those I just drop the truth, and you get a better response than trying to pet them up with some common saying.
>>26484406 He can justify it to himself however he wants. >>26484407 Alright >>26484378 >>26484379 How? Do you think most people go through life and never feel lonely, or an outsider? It's a pretty basic human experience.
>>26484505 Well it was normies who treated him like shit(often for things out of his control). Through this negative feedback, he started to seek solitude. It was their behavior that started this. They are at fault.
Why do normies come in these threads and try to "talk sense" into people that literally have never had friends or touched another human being. This isn't what you think it is normies, this isn't just your depressed friend. These are guys you never even knew about.
>>26484444 Normalfag outcast >Boohoo the captain of the cheerleader squad won't fuck me, i'll have to settle for my plain-jane neighbor >I'm not as popular as the other guys but i still have friends XD
Robo oitcast >Can't talk to people without fucking it up >Don't have many opportunities to socialize since i have no networks to rely on Cry me a river
>>26484533 Sometimes it is plausible choice. You do something when pain of doing nothing is stronger that pain from the life you live. Are people unhappy from being fat and sitting on internet the whole day? Yet they're even more unhappier trying to break those things even if it helps in a long run.
>>26484567 >Nobody is at fault. Nobody is at fault? So for example when someone gets bullied for lets say height, the people destroy his confidence, ruin any chance at getting social skills at the propper age and overall cripple a person. They're not at fault? Are you out of your fucking mind?
>>26484643 And you're going to tell that there's nobody who's happy in his life who was bullied, or better, they wasn't REALLY bullied, I mean if you recover from ANYTHING then you never really had it bad.
>>26484663 >You choose to be bothered. How does that work exactly? When I was in this situation, my choices didn't really stop the punches landing in my face. But let's assume, you're right, I'm gonna greentext how it would work in your world.
>walking down the hallway >Chad and his crew shouts "HEY ANON" just as he is swinging his fist at me >I loudly proclaim "I CHOOSE NOT TO BE BOTHERED" >the fist immediately stops and Chad says "Oh, okay then. Sorry bro" and walks away
>>26484688 It depends. I mean people who recover and try to integrate with society of normies that consider bullying to be the norm. That's pretty pathetic in my book. Kinda like if someone broke into your house, raped your wife and you offered to make him tea. It's retarded.
>>26484839 Because whether you get bullied and attacked by the normies does not really depend on your choices. If you got unlucky and are inferior in some way, you will get targeted. For things you can't change. That are out of your control.
>>26484863 Not him, but if I have to choose between being alone and working hard to integrate with society of normies, where my position would be inferior at best(which is also doing of the very same normies). It's a clear choice. Rather to be alone than humiliated and working for the enemy. Rather to be alone than get treated like shit for things I didn't choose. Rather to die of hunger than eat shit and die of malnutrition few months later. Because that's how your life is going to be, if you're not a Chad. Slowly dying of malnutriton being forced to eat shit.
>>26484909 Thanks to these years of getting beaten up and tortured(yes I know I risk being called a drama whore for using this word, but I'm not native english speaker and I don't know how else to call getting beaten, cut, burned, waterboarded and humiliated among others). Thanks to this my social standing has been impaired severely. I don't trust people, I don't see how I could, knowing that so many people attacked me and everyone else just stood by and looked. And my social skills, well I learned to emulate how to act to not beaten up as much, but I have no confidence, emulating the propper behavior is tiring as hell. Spending an evening among other people feels like walking on eggshells.
I could go on, but these problems I wouldn't have if I didn't get bullied. So that is why this bothers me.
>>26484957 No, that's what I experience as inferior male. I mean sure, most people try to sugarcoat it so they don't feel suicidal and angry, but I preffer the truth. I don't want to live in delusion. Working hard, approaching women, doing anything really feels so bitter knowing that if I was born differently, better I would get these things much easier. The bitter taste underlies everything. It's the proverbial shit.
>>26485019 If you don't, you're not reaching your full potential in life. Social network is important for everything really. From getting a job, finding a partner, it's important as hell. And in this very important thing I have trouble because of the things that happened. And that is why it still bothers me.
>>26485091 Because people who got luckier in life can get them. And I should not want them just because of bad luck? Fuck that. Not to mention obviously all the other reasons, wanting to procreate, to contribute to society, all that shit.
>>26483314 >>26483907 >What doesn't kill you makes you stronger Often said by rich pampered bitches that have never worked a day in their life,. >Or you know, makes you mentally fucked I don't know but it seems to me that both of these statements are true.
Sure years of constant abuse and neglect make you mentally stronger and driven by hatred; they're the only reasons I haven't killed myself yet(the irony probably being that the abuse is probably what caused me to feel like considering killing myself), at the cost of ever actually being happy though.
People like us are preordained for failure, but it doesn't stop me trying like some sort of petulant child.
>>26484610 Have you had a conversation with somebody? A lot of these people you are trying to help honestly haven't, an a lot of them are actually disabled. Why are you coming in here and telling them everybody is the same and everything is there fault. Is this how you deal with it being the 14th?
>>26485158 I guess that's one way to put it. If some people got lucky and get things, I don't see why I shouldn't want to get these things too. And before you say something retarded like >hurr world is unfair, deal with it I say fuck you! Why should I deal with being treated like shit? The world might be unfair, but it's normies who enforce these rules and treat people like shit and maintain the hierarchy. Only a cuck would accept it.
>>26485219 >Then I don't see why you can't. Because I'm inferior. Expecting to succeed in life is like expecting a runner who has one leg broken, bear trap on the other leg and also has to start 40 yards behind everyone to win the 100 yard dash. It just ain't fucking happening. If he chooses to run, he is just there to make the others look better. And that's not the kind of life I am going to live.
>>26485271 >But why do you want these things? I don't know. Probably indoctrination from young age. Getting hammered in my head how succesful people have a house, job, family. Who knows, it's not important at this point.
>>26485271 It is an something that normies do, they don't think their normies but they honestly talk with people and have conversations. Many people are literally unable to do it, and a lot are disabled. That's how you know your a fucking normie. Stop shitting on them.
>>26481222 Why do robots think that normies are insincere or fake simply because they are in relationships? "Look at me I can't get what I want therefore I'm more qualified to understand the ills and woes of this world and anybody else is just fake or have it easy because I said so". Holy shit you guys are just as self-centered and cancerous as the normie caricature you've created. Sometimes it feels like /r9k/ is full of angsty 12 year olds. Selfishness, being self centered are all signs of immaturity, grow the fuck up /r9k/.
>>26485334 Why should I? Many people don't do this. They can just achieve these things, due to their good luck. And I should choose some alternative goals because I got unlucky? Fuck that. You know that it's just sour grapes, right?
>>26485339 So you want to have a conversation with someone, but are unable to do it because you believe you are unable. Having a conversation is normie. So you want to be a normie. But you despise normies. Why do you want the same thing? Who says you need this? >>26485338 >short, ugly, small dick How do these things stand in the way of what you deem success to be? >no confidence Why do you have no confidence? Is not having confidence a bad thing for you?
>>26485377 >many people don't do this. Do what? Decide what they want? Decide what they wish to pursue? Everyone does this. Do you have a drive to pursue these things, beyond "I want it because they have it." and "I was told to want it so I want it" If these are you reasons, then if you do get these things someday you will still be unhappy.
>>26485413 >How do these things stand in the way of what you deem success to be? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect
>Why do you have no confidence? Is not having confidence a bad thing for you? Yes, it affects the choices I make. Confident people are much more likely to succeed, because they don't think they could fail.
>there's someone out there for everyone :^)))))))))))) >you just need to find her :^))))))))))))))))))))) >get out of your comfort zone :^))))) >learn to socialise just talk to people :^)))))))))))))))))))
>>26485443 I'm talking about even basic things. Like getting a job and a partner. Not something hillariously retarded. Even these things require extra hard work for someone inferior. And I want these things, both of them. I want a job so I don't starve to death and I want a partner so I can hopefully maybe procreate. Isn't that what most organisms want to do? I'm no different.
>>26485486 >You seem plenty confident to me. Fake it till you make. Except you never really make it and you always know it's just a sham that is tiring to maintain.
I want to do basic things without stressing over them. I want to not feel anxious before I have to make a phone call. I want to not feel anxious when meeting new people. I just don't want to be unconfident inferior retard. And no, getting out of your comfort zone and doing these things until they feel natural does not work.
>>26485519 Do you really want me to get into this? Don't you get this warm feeling when for example watching a movie where you have an older generation and their kids growing up and doing their own thing? The kind of I don't know. It's very hard to explain. But it's just something I want to experience. I'm not sure why, I assume most people have this urge.
I can get jobs, but I would have to work hard to get jobs that someone with same qualification but who is taller would get easily, due to halo effect. So to get a job, I would have to accept getting humiliated.
Also I live in the most western part of what is considered eastern europe. Not romania-tier, but also nowhere near western europe in quality of life.
>>26485805 It's not the way it should be done. I will still know I was too inferior to get a woman. That's my problem. How can I live with myself knowing this? Knowing I failed.
5'10" is short. Anything that isn't tall is short as far as I(and women) am concerned. My job is, well programming. But it's automation-related so it's I'd say harder than many common programming jobs. But I know I will still be earning less than some retard who "invented" a shitty app. Just because he was confident enough and I wasn't.
>>26485942 Listen. You know as well as I do that the things you are saying are complete horse shit. Who says without a woman you are a failure? If you keep making up imaginary people you will always, ALWAYS be inferior, because they do not exist. You want to be sad, you want to be inferior. Because that's easier then the alternative, isn't it?
You've been talking to yourself, I'm already dead.
>>26486439 You're wrong. And just dropping more normie platitudes. I am compared to real people every day, who are better than me. And if the alternative is to get humiliated by working hard on things others don't, then yes I want to be sad and alone rather than a cuck for society which shit on me.
If you believe someone else can resolve your shitfest you deserve more pain and it's already in store for you.
If you want any improvements you will accept that the only one person that you have control over is you and only when you abandon yourself is life bad. If your mom or someone else is somehow supporting you be thankful at least at heart while remaining an edgelord.
If you do nothing and expect someone else to care you're in for awakening. If you can't do this then what's left for you is to accept you're pathetic and accept it or kill yourself. You can also shitpost here to pretend you're profound hot shit but it won't get better. If you did try to provide for yourself and failed, I can only say try more. Harder if necessary.
You're not being sincere if you think occupying your mind with what you hate is healthy.
Having stalked a high number of female instagrams for fap material I'm amazed I can't recall platitudes. Doing a quick search to remember I found... >Just smile! >Love and believe in yourself! >Don't create limitations. >Trust the timing of your life.
>>26484248 Bullshit. Things don't "have" to work out. People who believe that are delusional morons who think life is like a movie or a book. Reality isn't like fiction. Shit doesn't have to make sense and things don't have to happen for a reason.
>>26485450 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect >The halo effect is a cognitive bias in which an observer's overall impression of a person influences the observer's feelings and thoughts about that entity's character or properties >overall impression influences the observer's feelings and thoughts about that entity's character >overall impression ... >On personality: >subjects are given 3 photos of people of varying levels of attractiveness >subjects are to make up shit about those peoples' lives >subjects tend to think the hottest are the nicest/most successful/most stable people Fuckin' science, yo. It's all about looks, ain't it?
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