This really is sensitively dependent on your specific situation, OP. I think being consistently motivated is the most important overall theme, but what you actually do to move towards self-improvement really does depend on where you are atm.
First, make sure you actually stay motivated. If your life is fucked or you're depressed, try seeing a psychiatrist, preferably for some meds, or just take the meds on the low.
Once you're motivated, finding a path should be easy, but I can still help. Basic things include starting to lift, having a consistent sleep routine, reading informative shit, etc.
We should probably all cut the cord and get rid of internet completely. At one point I couldnt afford internet for a few months and I became so productive. I was constantly studying, cleaning, going out (overwhelming boredom is great motivation) but then I got internet back and reverted to slobdom instantly.
But then I joined the UOTC and went on to join the army as an officer. Now I'm physically fit, I'm getting into weight lifting (as well as cardio - yes it's possible, don't get trolled by /fit/) and getting aesthetic, I'm doing the commando course in a few months after which I'll be a commando officer, and all in all I have a pretty fucking good career lined up ahead of me.
It's all a state of mind. I'm now addicted to physical exercise. I love what I do. I love my life. I still have moments of depression, perhaps because I'm just vulnerable to it or have a hormonal imbalance, but it's counteracted by the moments I realise what a great person I am and what a great life/career I have.
>>26479275 I don't want to be a second class citizen just because I get sad sometimes. I'd much rather handle my own problems, I've made some small improvements if I'm not in a better place next year I'd consider it but I'm not suicidal in the slightest and I don't think I could ever be honest with a therapist.
The only person who can help me is me, and I've finally got a reign on that.
There's no trick to it like >>26478541 is saying. Keep fapping and watching porn or whatever. Quitting anything isn't the answer. There is no one single act you can perform that will fix your life. You just have to change your state of mind. You can begin this by starting something like lifting, for example. After a while you will begin to look on people who don't bother to make something of themselves with disdain, because you will have realised that all it takes for you to make it is to simply apply yourself and put some hard work in.
>>26479268 Cause they don't want to give genuine advice, they just want to stroke their own egos.
In reality no amount of hobbies or working out will improve a disgusting looking face that got you rejected by girls numerous times and forever will which will eventually result in you being lonely.
Also no amount of self improvement meme will make you less awkward when interacting with people, so chances are you won't have friends.
With an ugly face + no social circles you will never get a girlfriend and without getting into a girlfriend's social circles you will never make friends on your own cause you're incapable. It's a vicious circle.
The more you age, the harder both of these become, you don't stand a chance as a robot, you'll forever be lonely, self improvement is literally a meme and pure cancer to this board.
>>26479354 People like you don't want to improve. You chose to be a loser, a failure in life, and get angry when someone suggests you don't have to be a failure, that you could do something to improve your situation.
>>26479399 >It's for people who actually want to be helped No it's for disgusting tumblrites and socialites, I remember some girl was talking about her husband wasn't sleeping with her anymore and they started clamoring for body pics. Shit board Shit people Shit advice
>>26479425 >literally stay a mad virgin: the post >your arguments are a meme, why even bother being this retarded ?
>>26479403 Ok, you fucking faggots, let's consider this.
Problem >can't get a girlfriend, will always be virgin, will always be lonely
Causes >ugly 4/10 at best face >awkward personality >manlet <5'8
Solution >just work out brah xD >just improve yourself :^) >just pick up a hobby
Why do I even bother with retards like you ? There's literally nothing to be done, you're a bunch of faggots stroking yourselves over the fact that your more successful than others while spouting delusions to denigrate them.
>>26479354 And this is why people come here, you dumb normalfuckers. Understand that.
You go anywhere else in real life or online and you will get shitty, generic advice from deluded idiots who still think one day everything will just work out for them. It's a flaw in humans that needs effort to work past.
>>26479403 >>26479425 The whole point is that there are people out there born into money, who are taller than you, who don't medical or physical issues, who are more attractive than you, who are just superior to you in every single way, who have had this normal upbringing with normal progression of developing into a functional human being that some people don't have.
You're telling a 5'4" guy with arthritis to keep practicing basketball because some day his dreams of being a pro player may come true... and the hilarious thing is you can't see anything wrong with that.
The only thing I can't figure out with you people is whether you're lying because you think that will make other's feel better or you genuinely are just that stupid.
Good looks doesn't matter, as it is considered to be necessary, what matters is if you're appearable, outgoing, charismatic, etc, which is definitely the part of being good looking, but it's more related with internal condition rather than external. Some of things can prevail over another, and some of flaws would eventually fade away.
Nothing is interesting to me anymore. Having noticed the main traits "successful" people have, it turned out that I can't force myself into being a person who has traits I've mentioned above. That whole thing "fake it till you make it" makes me feel disgusted. I chose the path of escapism.
>>26479629 >Good looks doesn't matter, as it is considered to be necessary, what matters is if you're appearable, outgoing, charismatic. There qualities are products of confidence which is direct result of good looks.
>>26478515 LITERALLY the shit they tell you in high school
stay healthy, don't eat garbage. i prefer cardio to weightlifting. get a degree in something you enjoy, or something that makes you money remain true to yourself reading helps, quality literature, not escapist power. non fiction is better. science is hit or miss, you're much better off getting paid for it fantasies, but in and of itself it's not any good
to quote this book: soldiers don't think about bravery when they're in a war zone. either you do your duty or you're a coward. either you accomplish what you set out for or you're a failure. environment plays a large part in your development which is why that dude wants to get the fuck out of here. 95% of you are whiny ass bitches and coming here sets the bar so hilariously low for me there's no way this place isn't bad for my mental health.
>>26479799 I believe that it's heavily about upbringing. Attractive and normal people go through their early lives with this constant progression of making friends and maturing and learning basic things that make a man. Attractive people always get more attention as kids. The halo effect is real. All this progression of a normal upbringing results in a functional human being.
The alternative is being ugly, with some inherent social issues as well as lifestyle trouble that essentially ruin your normal chances of development. The progression doesn't exist. This person doesn't make friends and they don't do normal people activities. More and more kids are being raised by the internet and this is just an alternative to normal life. These people don't become functional adults.
Anyway, if you're <5'2 and male you can pretty much say goodbye to all leadership roles. You will go your entire life without any respect from anybody. The normalfags solution to this is just to keep trying and feed the societal machine that keeps their own lives running smoothly
>>26479899 It's funny how the cutoff for being normies gets lowered every time you fags get won in an argument It started with >4/10 face which can be fixed without surgery to get into 6/10, 7/10 with the right /fit/ and /fa/ (halo effect works even that way) and that's pretending that the fag who write that is really 4/10 at "its best" and not a 6/10 lazy deluded and feminine
>awkard personality literally one of the traits which can be changed without any hard effort you basically have to start not doing a little shit for a while until it becomes an habit, then move on to the next shit >5'8 if you think 5.'8 people are manlets, you are a fucking retard and even if they were fucking manlets, outside 4chan nobody believes in the manlet meme >inb4 that tinder or okcupid screen caps where a whore says she only dates 6'9'' or higher fuck off
maybe it's true that it isn't true that nothing it's impossible, but stop being a faggot it's sure possible and it's also true that year after year it becomes harder and harder the world isn't fair, but think about it, faggot, even fucking cavemen knew that and in 2016 you got almost every instrument in your favour if you are man enough to catch them the thing that makes me full of anger that reading this board it's like reading fucking tumblr, imho the worst site on the whole interweb complaining about society cucking them, believing they are special, perversion and lust for being a failure, believing in speciality of theirself for being failures, circlerjeking to make their "truths" more acceptable, a lot of stuff like that So I moved to 4chan seeking for something which was the exact oposite of tumblr and I got tumblr 2.0 : the edgier again fuck off
>>26480121 cont. >The man from an age of dissolution, which mixes the races all together, such a man has an inheritance of a multiple ancestry in his body, that is, conflicting and frequently not merely conflicting drives and standards of value which war among themselves and rarely give each other rest - such a man of late culture and disturbed lights will typically be a weaker man. His most basic demand is that the war which constitutes him should finally end. Happiness seems to him, in accordance with a calming medicine and way of thinking (for example, Epicurean or Christian), principally as the happiness of resting, of having no interruptions, of surfeit, of the final unity, as the "Sabbath of Sabbaths," to use the words of the saintly rhetorician Augustine, who was himself such a man. But if the opposition and war in such a nature work like one more charm or thrill in life - and bring along, in addition to this nature's powerful and irreconcilable drives, also the real mastery and refinement in waging war with itself, and thus transmit and cultivate self-ruling and outwitting of the self, then arise those delightfully amazing and unimaginable people, those enigmatic men predestined for victory and temptation, whose most beautiful expressions are Alcibiades and Caesar (- in their company I'd like to place the first European, according to my taste, the Hohenstaufer Frederick II), and, among artists, perhaps Leonardo da Vinci. They appear precisely in the same ages when that weaker type, with its demands for quiet, steps into the foreground: both types belong with one another and arise from the same causes.
>>26480318 >not understanding that we use the reply option only to capture attention of readers and escalate a chain effect so actually it doesn't matter who you are replying to as long as the post is even slight related
Cut hair / shower / brush teeth Cut down on processed foods Start eating more fruit and veg Either start going for a run / walk, or take up a sport That confidence should help when you start going to the gym Start reading non-vidya / anime related stuff
>>26480485 woah, don't be a such a negative manchild brah! He's obviously wrong in his logical... because... uhh... life is awesome dude, fucking bitches is wicked cool man. He just needs to be himself and stop being so negative brah, then he can improve himself and be awesome dude
your brain is going to be sluggish. you won't be intelligent enough to speak in anything other than the same stupid oversimplified memes. the contemplation of natural phenomena will be lost on you. you'll be pasty and weak, your muscles will be watery. you won't be able to communicate with people except through a fucking computer screen. you won't be able to get off without a fucking computer screen. the perfect blend of man and machine, the 21st century drone consigned to his obselesence and inevitable destruction.
you were supposed to be men. you were supposed to be the ones who saved society when it was in its most fatal hour. instead you retreat into your fantasy realms, your youtube and your screengrabs of women fucking. your vindictive retreat from real women when presented with what you see as irrefutable evidence, the images of women you want fucking strange men. you see the fall of the west coming and you do nothing. in a way that makes you complicit in its destruction. you are the loser masturbating in the corner. you are the fucking cucks.
>>26480594 What is any of this supposed to accomplish?
>2. Go to therapy: You feel hopeless? You feel sad? You think your life has no path? That's what psychologist are for. Anything worth going to a psych for will probably get you locked away. Psychs are great for people like you though and your little normalfag issues about being sad when people don't talk to you ;(
>3. Get a hobby In other words, do something you don't like so other people may like you.
I hate this shit. I've tried multiple 'normal' hobbies and didn't like any of them. The only hobby I have that's 'normal' is exercise and I hate discussing it with people because their opinions are usually shit.
>>26480656 One day you'll wake up and be in a hospital bed, all that work you did has finally caught up with you, you're sick from a disease you caught due just normal interaction and people around people constantly. You're about to lose everything you worked so hard to get and can't help but be overwhelmed with emotion, wishing you could have done this or you could have done that.
I'll die, you'll die, we'll all die. That's not a valid argument for me to do things that you enjoy, faggot. You'll never die happy regardless of what you do.
>>26480727 Of course it is, people just refuse to accept it
The first thing any female notices about a man is his size which is just how tall and wide he is. The hilarious thing is that some 5'7 guy could workout for years and still be less desirable to a skinny 6' guy
>>26480782 Just get rich and famous then you'll get a gf. It's THAT simple.
>>26480788 Funny, I am 5'7" and am successful in life and with girls. By robot logic, I should be a virgin and have a shitty minimum wage mcjob. So why is it that there are so many virgin losers on /r9k/ that are tall?
>do cardio and fitness regimes >perfect bmi, athletic body >have a skincare regimen >eat well >get near top grades >have been going to therapy for years to try and get rid of my crushing despair and hopelessness but i can see no way out
Ive never even been hugged, I have no friends What am I doing wrong?
>>26478515 The first step would be to identify your problem areas. You can't fix anything you won't admit is broken. Second step would be getting a second opinion on the matter. You can't fix things that aren't broken, either. And you'll probably have missed some. Third step would be to plan to improve incrementally. For example, if you fap five times a day, that's excessive. Going nofap would be setting yourself up for failure. You need to experiment a bit and see what works, what doesn't, and why.
>>26479505 Sounds like you've been on /r9k/ way too long and deluded yourself entirely.
>ugly 4/10 at best face What makes the 4/10 face? Is it acne, scar tissues, big nose, asymmetrical eyes, large forehead, etc. What the person can do is point out the flaws and try to work with them or facial reconstructive surgery if it's bad.
>awkward personality. I can imagine a lot of people who think they are awkward probably don't know themselves that well. A good way to work on this would be to get to know yourself better.
>manlet <5'8 Learn to accept your height if it's a big deal for yourself.
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