>>26458009 No. On the personal level, it cancels outs the possibility of getting a job in the future. On the more societal level, welfare is going to run out soon. I would say go for it anyway though, just don't do it for more than 2 years I guess.
>>26458707 OP was asking in the long term you illiterate fuck. sure there is a chance you can make that much now but in the long run you can lose a bunch of money if laws change or you get summoned in and fail to continue to prove your a big enough asspie to warrent that much cash. You live in a very "now" mentally.
Of course. People who say welfare is going to just disappear overnight are idiots. Welfare has existed in various forms from the beginning of time. Claiming your dole money today is no different someone in the middle-ages claiming alms; put on a good show of being disabled and it comes pouring in. The government secretly tolerates NEETs because the alternative of forcing them to work will just flood the workforce with a 5th column of disgruntled autismos causing more damage than productivity
>>26461224 Do you ever imagine yourself as a cute girl taking load after load of anons cum? Like a queue of anons lining up to fill you with their semen, and you lay on your back with my legs in the air while my vagina greedily gobbles up each one
>>26458009 Depends, where are you from? I'm in a lucky circumstance. I'm on disabilitybux, live in public housing, and my nephew is on autismbux and pretty young. Have a girlfriend that has some kid (not mine) and intend on having one with her eventually too. Mind you, I have just reasons to be on disability and do some underpaid wageslavery (but only 5 hours a week, as it's my current maximum capacity.. but after some stabilizing they say 10 hours a week will be plausible). Also live with mother in this public housing place and she's really frugal (just watches television and likes going to the beach with my nephew). She's on disability too because of terminal cancer eating her away.
I'm kind of lucky in the sense I don't really enjoy anything except reading and the Internet. And the fact I was born in a multi-generational welfare household has made it so I can live pretty comfortably (well, comfortably by my own definition). Get to grow fruit. Make my own juices. Enjoy nutritious meals. Hoping my kid doesn't have these issues so they can break this chain and do something meaningful. Intend on giving them a lot of attention, and a lot of education and nurturing.. things I missed out on. And hopefully make a functional person for society in my lifetime. That's basically my goal.
>>26460229 I'm Nordic but neetbux is pretty shit here unless you're disabled or something. They have a fuckton of programs and activities and shit to put you in that you have to do to keep getting the money. It's constant meeting and talking about details about your life and such. They try hard to prevent that there's a bunch of neets.
>>26462574 >They try hard to prevent that there's a bunch of neets.
It's a really common belief. Especially in America with the whole puritan work ethic, and the individualistic nature of the country reducing support for generous social programs in general, but you find it all over. People get really steamed by the prospect of working, but then having some of their earnings skimmed off to pay for someone who could work but doesn't want to. You can only maintain public support for a welfare state for as long as people think that it prevents people from doing that and only gives folks benefits that are "deserved", and that people couldn't make do without by putting in more effort.
it'd be great to have a society where people don't need to and aren't expected to work in order to support themselves, and everything runs on automation and the efforts of those who choose to work of their own free will. This is probably technologically feasible already.
I have absolutely no idea how we get there from where society is at now though. Too many people are too invested in the way things are now, and massive expropriation of wealth from capital owners has both practical and ethical problems.
>>26464344 a.) money goes a great deal farther when you aren't paying rent, commuting, or possibly even buying your own food b.) even if that doesn't apply, neets wouldn't be neeting if they were powerfully motivated by money, would they? I mean the whole point is that not having to do work for 40+ hours a week is what they value more than the money.
>>26464272 I'm a commie and can't bring further clarification here. Under Lenin was a little more lenient with Leninism, but Stalin's Marxism-Leninism was ruthless in said regard. However, we do have to keep in mind the birth of communism came from the mind of Marx. And he thought otherwise. He believed lives of leisure and elective pursuits would come from eventual communism. And, really, it can, though not entirely - at least not yet.. and maybe not ever.
Think of this though: with the removal of the state, the removal of the banks.. a lot more unemployed people would now appear. Grab the labour market and slash hours down (doesn't really matter how much you work or don't in a true communism society, as tender becomes obsolete) and then all the unemployed with the capacity to work now have employment. Basically, with current automation, that would mean 10-15 hours of labour work a week. Labour will never entirely disappear, in my most honest opinion, unless we make some very sci-fi artificial intelligence to fix our own creations and themselves. Our employment wouldn't be our lives though, and then, with the monetary status symbol gone, the new one would become erect.. those on the covers of magazines would be scientists, engineers - people of passion doing for humanity for the sake of their fellow men. Even these prominent figures will put in the 10-15 hour per week of labour and then go about what they're passionate about.
Sad truth is though, not a single country has successfully even made it to socialism.. let alone communism. And part of the blame is the warfare against the bourgeois class, which is now an international class. But capitalism will fail in the future. As it stands, we're producing more resources than we're consuming. Destroying nature and eradicating species after species, because we need economic growth. Eventually, we will run out of these resources, growth will halt, and halted growth means recession..
>>26464868 Have to take into account bills too though. I'm not the person you're quoting, but, yeah, I'm a NEET living in, well, not free, but heavily government subsidized housing, with sick mother and autistic nephew. Albeit, in Australia.
>>26464899 What..? I was saying the labour market can't be entirely eradicated, but it can be heavily, heavily reduced. As I said, 10-15 hours p/week. People could knock out their entire work week in a singular day and then have 6 day weekends, ideally.
>>26458009 Well, I'm not on welfare (though I am a NEET) but my friendo on it says it's sustainable and he's been on it for 7 years I believe. He lives in Section 8 housing in the nigger area, and has some disposable income each month to waste it on stupid shit. So long as you keep voting democrat and don't let any Republicunt get rid of your neetbux you're safe.
>>26465222 As extreme as you put it, I do agree.. the whole education infrastructure trains us up, distributes us out, and then we work for a business or corporation which cares only about the bottom dollar, which subsequently makes the shareholders richer.. and even the small business owners have heavier perks at the banks with access to wider and less taxed accounts for personal revenue.
Yes, if you know proper budgeting and learn to live cheap. That includes eating cheap along with taking advantage of all your resources. That's not to say that being cheap is bad, but it does take awhile to get used to. Before I got disabled, I bought a trailer for $6000 and moved it onto some cheap land since I was tired of paying outrageous rent on apartments. About a year after, lupus kicked my ass and thus I'm disabled. I live on $1005/month.
In America, getting on SSDI is notoriously difficult if you're a single male, even if you have a serious physical disability. It's even harder for mental issues, and the process can easily take 1-3 years. If you get approved, it's $773 with $198 in food stamps, but no housing. You can apply for disabled/low income housing at the local housing authority, and MAYBE section 8. Section 8 waitlist is closed in my state, and the waitlist for public housing is 1.5 years.
>>26465669 Not him but my dad was on Section 8 housing and welfare when I was living with him. Most places that accept Section 8 housing are shitty but you can find some nice places with it, just need to look harder. We lived pretty comfortably, since I left his house he had to move because Section 8 housing pays different depending on how many people are living together but he's still doing well. You wont have much disposable income but you'll still have enough for internet and shit like that.
>>26465692 If you make it into low-income housing, usually the way it works is you pay 30% of your income for utilities and rent. However, if you're a single male, you're probably not gonna get approved. Single moms with multiple kids will be prioritized over you.
As a disabled single male you might as well not exist, because you don't matter to society. No one cares about helping you.
>>26465776 Section 8 is much better than public housing, because at least you can pick and choose the building you live at. The problem is that the waitlist is closed in most states, and if it's open it's going to be multiple years long.
>>26465776 Thank you for the reply, anon. As said, not from the United States but always curious about their welfare. I thought it was considerably crappier than that. Thankfully already in public housing in my country, so if I so choose to NEET, I can. For now enjoying more disposable income and low rent.
>>26464920 most people in Ontario only get ~1100 a month.
There is benefits ontop of that but you usually need to beg for them like dental, med, even free appliances if you get the right doctor to say you need a new washing machine cause your back cant handle hand washing.
>>26467679 Don't forget the stupid materialism game.
>>26467729 >thinks the economy isn't already on it's way to destruction Buddy, I hate to inform you.. but capitalism is a system reliant on infinite growth on a finite planet. We're doomed to experience recession after recession until inevitable collapse or over-consumption. Why stimulate an economy which is self-consuming?
>>26467852 Elaborate. And yes, on a finite planet. At the current rate of rainforest destruction, decimation of ecosystems via oil and coal.. we can't keep this up forever. Don't forget the nature of capitalism is: boom, depression, boom, depression, etc. And the bourgeois economics thought they solved it for twenty long years. Predicted no crashes and no dips.. and then 2008 happened. And now China's struggling with growth too. Oil has crashed, which was important reserves in a great deal of countries.
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