Why in fuck's name is it so hard for females to just be honest?
I am completely fine with accepting everything about girls except for this, it drives me up the fucking wall. If you don't like me or don't feel the same then fine, it's not a big deal, but why can't you just tell the truth and stop with all the stupid bullshit that puts the onus on me to be the bad person? Why do women avoid taking even the smallest, most meaningless responsibilities?
Tells me she wants to break up, I tell her I still love her, she says all that fucking "I love you in a different way" shit then gets angry and offended at me for not accepting her offer to "stay friends"
I just want death, so fucking sick of girls and this existence
honestly is a male concept. its all about status. for a male to be honest it proves he is trustworthy within a warrior group and also that he can take the slings and arrows that come with that. its honorable.
with women they have different rankings altogether, they don't have the concept of honour. it means very little in female groups. they will always lie and manipulate to retain rank among female peers, its an entirely different ranking system.. in fact, to provide drama and gossip in a female group is to provide value because they get off on emotional drama. so its in their interest to lie and create drama.
Alright, man. Here's your main issue: allowing women to rustle your jimmies.
You _know_ women are like this; matter of fact, everyone woman is. As soon as you accept this, you'll no longer get angry. It almost brings joy whenever you see some roastie getting blown out, especially when you're with a different woman. You need to strengthen your mindset.
The moment she said, "I want to break up," you should have merely said, "No doubt," then never replied to her ever again. She's getting angry because she wants to keep you as an option. Women are super fucked up, but again, just acknowledge this. If you're not playing this type of "game" to win, then you're automatically losing.
Reason: why friendzoning does not work, and if it is accepted by both parties, results in unavoidable awkwardness.
(in cases of post-relationship zoning.) The fact that the relationship failed is evidence of underlying issues in both parties. What the issues specifically are, and who is that with the most prominent varies from case to case. After the zone, it is obvious to both parties these issues exist, so continuing to be friends and not working on them is a very obvious case of pretending for the sake of ease (usually because the woman wants it.)
(In cases of non-post relationship zoning.)
It'll be very obvious to both parties that either the woman had no intentions of the relationship working from the start, or that she wants to have a disposable person on the backburner in case the current relationship male gets disposed of. Which one of these is the cause can be ambiguous, but it is one or the other. The indecency of the latter but the remaining uncertainty of it can lead to tension and unease, and an inevitably dishonest relationship.
> Tells me she wants to break up, I tell her I still love her
lemme tell you some very basic game theory. women are hypergamous. they will always desire those who are above them. now its a good chance i have some deep sociopathic traits and these make my life sad and fake, so perhaps you don't want to game anything and just live honestly. but when she said she wanted to break up, you should have shrugged (this is called "playing it cool", or "treat em mean keep em keen" in normie dichotimy). this implies to her that you are so far above her in status that you don't even care because there are plenty of other girls you could choose, it would drive her insane. she would think about it for weeks, talk about it with friends and ultimately come to the conclusion that you are above her and thus she wouldn't break up with you. if not, well at least you kept your pride intact and left a splinter of doubt in her mind
no. hes right. its self preservation. she cant be "the bad guy" if she lies and sticks to it, even if it hurts you. women are masters of manipulation because any species that doesn't have physical strength needs to rely on parasitic tendencies to manipulate stronger animals to do its bidding, else die out. its simple biology
i feel the same way. I've been fucking this chick that lies to me about weird mundane shit. She didn't want to tell me where she lived or worked because she was ashamed so she lied about it to me.
Why? No clue.
But to be fair, she's called me out of my "honesty" before and called it justification for bad actions or excuses. So I guess I don't know... just different perspectives
> just different perspectives
you've realized there is no objective truth in this world. that morals are relative. that you are not always right and women are not always wrong. you don't belong on this board and are probably smarter than 90% of the occupants. you should leave
Similar situation OP.
>tells me she wants to break
>she INSISTS on not seeing other people
>she INSISTS on getting back together in a few months after we fix things
>I agree, this will be good for our relationship
>several months later
>she's seeing somebody else
>confront her about her commitments
>"i just want to live my life and have experiences, and you should too"
BITCH I DIDN'T HAVE EXPERIENCES BECAUSE I KEPT MY FUCKING PROMISES
JUST FUCKING BREAK UP WITH ME GOD DAMN
Women are literally useless-meat wrapped around a vagina, that's their whole existence. Getting fucked, filled with cum, and carrying a baby for a couple months then mooching off the man for the rest of her life.
Remember: It's not a lie, if you believe it.
How is being honesty justification for bad actions or excuses? It's totally separate from you performing poorly, you can be honest and still be a shitty person it doesn't negate shitty behavior.
My ex did the exact same thing except fucked my "best friend" 2 weeks after we broke up. She just didn't tell me about until 3 months after us talking again and constantly prying to see if I fucked anyone while we weren't together.Why are people such scum?
Yes it is terrible. They just can't bring themselves to be straight with you. But imagine supreme gentlemen, if they were. For instance, a girl says to you:
'I don't want to hang with you because I'm not feeling it, not into you, and there's someone else I feel better about. Sorry.'
Are you going to walk away from the above happy that she was honest? No, you'd still feel like shit and hate her guts. Its just as bad, truth or lie.
The only issue i have with females is that they tend to be politically correct left wing feminists, and expects me to be the same.
life is absurd and then you die, this pointless drama you've involved yourself in has no meaning other than that which you give it.
relax bro, let go of your feelings.
The overwhelming majority of western women are nothing more than sexual objects. That's just the way they've been raised.. Any even mildly attractive woman has nothing of value beyond her appearance, and until you faggots realize this and go about your life accordingly, you're going to continue being depressed and getting cucked. Don't bend over backwards to please them, don't fall in "love" and don't put them on this pedestal. Falling in love with something incapable of love is never going to work out.
Yeah you're right to be honest, I already knew this before I even got involved with her I just felt I had absolutely nothing left to lose, wanted to let my guard down and let some tiny glimmer of hope back into my life for once. My fucking mistake believe me.
What makes me laugh is that when we first met I was a cold distant prick and she treated me like a king (paid for a flight to visit) lel
Well the problem I think you're facing and I do too is women expect you to be able to read between the lines of behaviour, have some degree of social intelligence and be a man and uncharitably, have a sixth sense for what she means. In that guy above's case, she doesn't mean not to see someone and shouldn't be hampered by her stupid rules. She's just letting off steam. Sometimes they do ridiculous shit like that to see if you're savvy enough to ignore it. Writing this now makes me change my mind a bit and think yes it would be easier if they were honest, but a story has to have shit happen and without their manufactured dramas, what would they talk to their girlfriends about?
> Tells me she wants to break up
> I tell her I still love her
> Why can't women be honest
So let me get this straight. The bitch tells you straight in your face she wants to break up, which anyone with half a brain would know means she doesn't love you anymore and your first reaction to this is to tell her that you still love her....
She is honest with you, you put her on the spot by not accepting her honesty and now you are complaining about her putting you on the spot and not accepting you not wanting to be friends.
I mean don't get me wrong, she sounds like a fucking child with that whole "let's stay friends" bullshit, but so do you!
What the hell are you talking about? I didn't ask her to stay with me, I asked her to tell me if she still loved me or not, she gave me a wishy-washy non-answer about still loving me but wanting to be "friends" hence why I wrote
>I tell her I still love her, she says all that fucking "I love you in a different way" shit
in the first place.