Where are all the Aussie robots at?

>implying I even leave the house

Wank my arse, ya cunt

>>26431715
I hope all australians kill themselves

>>26431715
If it sucks, why are you doing it every single day?

>>26431773
Because of work

>>26431715
Anyone from Adelaide, SA. (Down south preferably)

I've actually got wheels/free time for a change.

We could go for a cruise, try and score some hooch, and listen to 'return of the mack' by Mark Morrison 80,000 times in the process..

Which one of you autists walked into eb games today and wouldn't stop talking to the shopkeeper about how he'd pre-ordered the division.

>>26431795
Hard to have any compassion when you put it that way

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>>26431715
What's wrong with normies?

>>26431795
You call yourself an Aussie robot but you aren't even on Centrelink? Get
The
Fuck
Off
My
Board

>>26431862
How do I get cenrtrelink?
>22
>full time student
>unemployed
>live with parents

Is it possible?

>>26431881

Youth allowance (student edition). It's like Aus study for under 25's and pays slightly more apparently.

>>26431818
>dat excellent musical taste

M8 I'm totally up for it. Only thing is I'm in the west (woodville area). Is this good or bad?

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>>26431860
Who /Healthy Harold/ here

>tfw thought healthy Harold was a real fucking giraffe and when it bit me I cried cause I thought I was gonna get rabies and die from it

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Who /gong/?

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>>26431953
but Harold. What if I don't care about dying? Check and mate.

>Friday night
>barely any posters

Hmmm, I wonder what it could mean

>>26431953
Creepy giraffe in a dark caravan with a bunch of children...what could possibly go wrong

>>26431881
Look into newstart, I transferred from the Youth Disability Supplement to Newstart when I was 22.

Although, might have upped the age of eligibility up to 23 now, I'm not sure.

>>26431941
Pretty bad dude, sorry. There's always another time though. Do you have snapchat or anything? I used to have kik but I deleted it, lel.

>>26431860
Holy shit, I had one of those. Nostalgia overloading right now

>>26432226
I just remembered they had a board game or something.

I always used to play it

>>26432194

>Newstart

If you don't find work after a set period they force you to do slave labor to keep receiving the payment.

>>26432262
Been on good ol' cenno for about 3 years, the trick is to keep stalling them and you wont do any wftd

>>26432225
Don't have normiechat, but my email's [email protected]

Hey I wouldn't mind getting a bus into the city or somewhere closer if that helps
Normally have a car, just not tonight dammit.

>>26431919
Isn't that only if your parents are poor?
I'm pretty well off just want to get a shitty job whilst I'm at uni

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>>26431715
Just go a job in direct marketing
Pretty keen to start working after 3 months as NEET
where my failed normies at?

your daily reminder that there are no real robots in australia. this country is to chad and the real robots have already an herod

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Doing a course atm, was a long time NEET

Even making friends, fuck me, this is weird

I feel so fake tbqh

>>26431919
>>26432388
I want to know this too, I got put off YA because rents were making over a certain amount. Does this change once you're over 21?

>>26432388

Aus study is only for over 25's (I'm assuming you're younger) so you're still eligible for student YA. The amount payed is the same as Aus study so it's pretty much the same thing.

>>26432384
I'll message you in a moment, fellow G-mailer.

If it for the distance involved / the fact it's actually my friends car I'd make the effort tonight, man.

>>26432593
>Does this change once you're over 21?
I was under the impression it was 22 but I'm not sure

>>26432593
I believe you have to be living independently. However you can claim disruptive household (rents ant chipping in to feed you, arguements, stress, you have anxiety/autism now)

But give them a call anonymously desu

>>26432420
Hey man, don't say that. There's like 3 of us in this thread, that's gotta mean something. Right?

>>26432608
If it wasn't for** damn

>>26432602
>you're still eligible for student YA.
So given my current situation (full time student, unemployed, living with parents, well of family) I'm eligible for something?

>>26432621
I'm actually normie as fuck, sorry.

>>26432631

How old are you?

>notoriginal

>>26432612
How about if your living in a granny flat on the same property?

>>26432621
>>26432653

Yeah
>tfw you think your a robot because your neet
>remember your australian and you have atleast done 1 normie thing in your life
>mandatory sports/swimming in schools
>australian beach culture doesnt allow for shut-ins at a young age unless your actually autistic

CHAD NATION

>>26432664
Definately possible. Just claim your parents are making you pay rent.
I know someone in that exact same position however he has high-functioning autism, OCD and is completely unstable. he gets paid well from centilink
Alot of people do this illegally
>lets say you have a friend that owns a rental property
>bribe him/her to sign off that your living there and paying rent
>claim autism bux for rent also from centi link

Mind you getting caught can land you and your friend with criminal records so its a terrible idea desu.

Be Tasmania. Am I still Australian frands??

>>26432608
IVANMILAT AT KILLMAIL * COM

Can I come too?

>>26432691
Swimming doesn't make you a normie though.
I've been to the beach countless times and I'm still a pure robot

>>26432741
No

t. a Tasmanian

Radelaide hills failed normie reporting in

>>26432664
Moral of the story is be either a student or have autism.
In either situation get a part-time restaurant or cafe job that pays cash 1-2 days a week. youll be under 18,000 a year so no tax..

>>26432779
>I've been to the beach countless times
>Still a pure robot

pick one chad..

>>26432800
Are the standards for being a chad lower here?

There's quite a few robots from the goldy here

im wondering if its because living in the chad capital of australia drives us to post on r9k

>>26432663
22

Originally comment yayay

>>26432800
checked dem reoccurring numbers.

>>26432800
Come on mate, that's like saying going to a nightclub makes you a chad. It sure as fuck doesn't, it just makes the robots stick out even more. Any location I go to, I'm still a kissless virgin

I live in the most Chad area of the world. This makes me deeply disappointing that i didn't become one.

>>26432837

Then you'd get $350/fortnight. If you moved out you'd get $526 + rent assistance (like $100).

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>>26432823
Perhaps, I've just witnessed the purest strain of robot and they're mostly from UK/America.
These are truly humans with no motivation/hope left.
Yet to meet an Australian robot and by meet I mean have an omegle/skype chat with.

>>26432856
>Any location I go to, I'm still a kissless virgin
Sure you might not be a chad, but you still a failed normie just like me and 95% of the board. but dont consider yourself a robot.


>pic related

>>26432823

Actually the standards would be higher since even pale betas can be surfer types.

>>26432765
I'm cool with that. We ain't doing anything tonight, but email me sometime and we'll make some plans

>tfw handsome
>naturally strongly built
>good hair, good facial hair
>smart, genius level
>was shaping up to have a god tier life
>tfw hit with medical issues
>tfw they ruined everything


FUCK YOU WORLD

>>26432797
Fuck me, adelaides going off tonight.
Y'all appear to be a ways away from me though.

Hallett Cove, 5158.

>>26432920
kek fucking rekt mate

>>26432881
>but dont consider yourself a robot
Haha, I'm a fucking wizard. Any normie would balk at 3 decades of no sex or affection, for me it was Tuesday

>>26432920
Serves you right for bullying me Chad

>>26432920
normie btfo

orginale

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>>26432942
>far away beach town.
>>26432797
>the hills

No citybros?

>>26431715
We exist I just have to hide my disgust at every Chad and Stacy I see come through my shop hell The Capital has the most fucked women you can imagine dude

>>26432953
> 3 decades of no sex or affection
wtf is this normie scum?
real robots wouldnt have that for 6 decades

GET OF MY BOARD REEEEEEEE

>>26432871
Can you please tell me where you got this info? Centrelink website?

https://strawpoll.me/6794926

>>26432593
>>26432611
I work for Centrelink. At 22 you're considered independent, and no longer get assessed based on parental income.

Because this is an aussie thread on /r9k/, I'll stick around if any ausbots want Centrelink advice.

>>26431881
Where do you study, what course?

>>26432194
>Youth Disability Supplement
Pretty sure that's just an add on to YAL.
But yeah, NSA is the regular dole payment when you're over 22.
But the guy you're replying to is probably eligible for YAL.

>>26432349
Your service provider is probably keeping you on the books cause they get paid. There's gonna be an audit in 2016 of all jsp's, and they'll either be forced to recommend work for the dole, or they'll shuffle you off to someone else.

>>26432593
>>26432612
Have to stress here that it's not that easy.
You'll be expected to prove that its unreasonable to live at home if you're under 22. They investigate that stuff, and if you're not a study living away for study, they involve a case manager or social worker at your local office.

I got sick of reading the posts. If you have a question, ask.

australia is the land of chads, life sux desu senpai

>>26432871
Actually, current independent rate of YAL is averaging at $485.00 a fortnight plus whatever rent assistance you're entitled to.
RA depends on circumstances, like whether you're sharing, paying board/lodgings, private rent, etc.
Protip; if you're not assessed as independent, no RA for you.

>>26433025
I'm schizophrenic but my disability was turned down. Why? I hear voices and have visual hallucinations. What more do they fucking want?

>>26433025
What's the easiest way to get on dsp?

>>26433047
to get on disability you have to be incapable of working. you are not.

>>26433067
I am incapable of work though. But I can study and I am. Still I can't work like this.

>>26433085
how are you incapable of work? you are communicating with me here fine

>>26433025
Im doing mech engineering at university of Western Sydney. How can I apply for these benefits? Walk into a Centrelink or can I do it online. Keep in mind I have no disabilities/mental issues just want some petrol money/general spending money. How long is the process?

>>26432998
https://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/centrelink/youth-allowance
>>26433046
Oh right, that $526 figure was the max amount and probably includes RA.

>>26433103
Yeah but I drift off when I'm talking to people all the time. Just because I'm not totally incapable doesn't mean I am capable of work

>>26433117
you should stop being a pussy and get to work

>>26433047
Without knowing specifics, I would say that you didn't have enough medical evidence to show that you're incapable of working.
I don't usually work with DSP, but from when I did, I was used to seeing DSP claims re schizophrenia with medical evidence that would point out that with medication, the individual can function and work.
Seriously though, without knowing exactly what your rejection letter said, I can't know.

>>26433054
Be disabled.

>>26433025

If I'm getting paid for studying via Youth Allowance can I do a second course by getting on Aus study after I graduate the first course (I'll be 26).

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Who else /melbourne/ here?
Feels good being hipster

>>26433025

I'm on DSP, but there's NO indication of any change (I.E forced to do work, pay deduction, job interviews).

Yet I hear about people losing the dole or getting dole lowered, even policies changing.

Why hasn't that happened to me?

Not complaining, just curious

>>26433150
neck yourself with a biodegradable hemp rope you fucking queer

>>26433131
Well, its not that simple. I would be working if I was able. I lost my last job from mental instability

>>26433137
It just said that it was rejected. Fucking bullshit man theres people I know with PTSD who are on disability but me literally being crazy can't get it? Its a load of shit

>>26433107
Sounds like you've got something.
Assuming you're full time.
If you have a record with Centrelink, make sure you have online services. If you've never verified your identity with documents, go into an office with 100 points (license, birth cert, passport, medicare card, whatever, just enough of it) and while you're there, get self-service.
If you've never provided documents, make sure they scan them on (the office guys will tell you to ring or do it online). Make sure it's your record. (You probably have a child one if your parents claimed FTB, so ring and check, ask them to separate it).

Once you've managed to apply online, if you're under 22, get a MOD JY form off human services (parental income). If you work, get payslips. If you have money in a bank (you'll be saying on the claim) get bank statements ready, and if you work, payslips.

>how long is the process
Mate do I have some news for you. We have over 70 000 YAL claims right now. We've just mobilised huge amounts of people to try and cope (I was one of them).
Make sure you're submitting documents - ones that don't are getting immediately rejected after 14 days. Don't sit around waiting, just do it.

>>26433137
But what counts as disabled? I have anxiety, depression, hearing loss, and potentially aspergers. Is that enough?

>>26433216
I do Fulltime uni at UC finishing my degree next year and I get 655 per fortnight from AusStudy but I also work alot too so thats something


Hey Robots does anyone else just feel hollow when walking though the crowds or when you talk to people?

>>26433216
Just curious, what's the likelihood of me being granted DSP nowadays? I was rejected for depression/anxiety back in 2011 (under the GOOD impairment tables) and I've barely worked since, and my health has only deteriorated.

>>26433140
That's a big fat maybe.
We have this thing called "allowable time". Basically, we take a look at the type of course (not going into our grading system). Basically, if it's the same level (say, Bachelors), we'll ask why. If it's something logical, like after doing an arts degree, going to do a more serious one, then maybe. If its another random one, you'll probably get knocked back. Canberra wants people getting jobs and giving back in tax. They actively try to stop career students.
Also yes, AUS is for you after 25.

>>26433154
Are you over or under 35? Half way through 2015, there were mass reviews of people on DSP under the age of 35.

>>26433166
Like I said, it comes down to the evidence you've provided. People on it for PTSD are usually described by the medical pracs. as unable to hold down a job.
DSP processors aren't medical professionals dude, they have legislation to follow, and take their cues from your doctor/psych.

>>26433273

>Are you over or under 35? Half way through 2015, there were mass reviews of people on DSP under the age of 35.

24

>>26431881
>student
>he thinks he isn't a normie

i used to make ausbot threads for friday and saturday nights but i stopped bothering becuase they were full of unifags like yourself

you think you are a robot but you are able to go to uni

i dropped out of school in 8th grade because i could no longer handle being around other people

UNIFAGS ARE NOT FUCKING ROBOTS FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

I'm sick and eating baked beans on toast at midnight

>>26433273
Fucking fuckers just don't want to give me muh autisimbucks

>>26433273
Thanks mate. Wish I was aware of the appeals-system back when I applied over 5 years ago, perhaps I'd be on it today. The whole process is rather daunting and off-putting though.

WHY IS EVERYONE EXCEPT ME IN THIS COUNTRY AN EXTROVERT

>>26433163
Sydneyfag detected
You're just jealous

>>26433229
>what counts as disabled
Can't quote off the top of my head, but basically, if you can prove medically that you're unable to work, due to physical or mental conditions, and this is verified by medical professionals, you have a chance.
>anxiety
Rarely see DSP for this. Most people consider it treatable with drugs or therapy.
>depression
Anti-depressants are the norm for this. Most doctors/psychs advise this manages the condition.
>hearing loss
You can do other work, work that doesn't require hearing.
>asperger's
If you function, you'll have trouble finding someone to stick their neck out and say you can't work.

>>26433246
>work a lot
How much is a lot? Are you reporting it?

>>26433269
>likelihood
I feel like I'm saying this a lot, but you will never get DSP if you can't find proof that your condition is something that will, or is, keeping you from working.

>>26433361
Queensland, family. Will never move back to either of those multi culti hellholes.

>>26433366
Cash in hand most of it but thats it its the only reason I can afford t have my own home where I dont need to be bothered with people

about 25 hours a week + full time uni

>>26433273

Thanks.

Also on the website it says that the allowable time for each course is the standard course length + 1 semester. If it took me one semester longer could I appeal to have my allowable time increased? I have a family doctor who would vouch for any reason I might give (depression, trauma etc).

>>26433301
Not him, but its pretty easy to do uni nowadays. You can literally do most courses online and completely avoid being social at all

>>26433387
Yuck, even worse
Queensland is literally bogan central, how do you survive?

>>26433287
You never got it? I never worked with the U35 team. When were you granted DSP?

>>26433322
Pretty much. DSP is on the firing line.

>>26433331
>daunting and off-putting
It's meant to be. It's the harsh reality that it's my job to mask (I work on the phones). Social security is a safety net, and an important one, but the government wants it as cheap as possible. One of the most effective ways to do that is make it hard to get on it. That way, only the desperate and truly needy will struggle to get on it.

>>26433334
I SWEAR IM NOT

I WISH I WAS THO

>>26433366
you don't know shit. I was on free benefits for six months without needing to do a single thing and all I needed was certificate saying I was too depressed to work from my doctor

>>26433426
I barely leave the house, I work part time at night stacking shelves so i put my headphones in and work on my own

i spend my entire waking life on the computer or furthering the goal of being on the computer

on the off chance i meet people out side i like them to be white and unarmed

>>26433437
ENTP MASTER RACE
GROW UP
DIE LIKE A MAN

>>26433432

>You never got it? I never worked with the U35 team. When were you granted DSP?

3 years ago

>>26433398
>Cash in hand
Be vary careful. I mean if you get busted with that, you'll have bigger problems than a Centrelink debt, but there's a saying in DHS. It all comes out in the wash.

>>26433407
>appeal to have allowable time increased
Potentially, but then we're going to question why. Like, most unis will have course length based on how many subjects, which in turn determines whether you're full time. If we ask why, chances are its cause you haven't been doing it full time in order to complete in standard time. If you weren't full time, you weren't eligible.

>>26433444
Sounds pretty comfy actually
But nothing beats lonely strolls in the melbourne streets as the sun is beginning to set
Queensland can LITERALLY never even begin to compare to Vic

>>26433451
see even the fucking robots are extroverts. I hate aussie threads here because your normiedom seeps into your posts

>>26433366
Okay so I can work, but its more stressful for me than for normies, and only minimum wage shit despite my degree, and I'm so autistic that i will never get promoted. Is there anything other than dsp that I could apply for?

>>26433482
try being in a shopping centre carpark on your own at 1am in the morning and it's a perfect 25c

or walking on the beach at night alone


melbourne was ok when it was full of white people

>>26433441
>you don't know shit
Lolk.
By chance, were you on Newstart, and made exempt from your mutual obligations?
You do know we've change it right? Med certs can't exceed 3 months, and you still need to report every fortnight.

On behalf of everyone I work with, I want to ask: you do know you're not as clever as you think you are, right?

>>26433461
It sounds like you may have fallen through with relatively recent claim. Your medical details may also determine that your condition won't be changing. Why are you on DSP?

>>26433493
Technically I'm a cyborg
Being an extrovert doesn't automatically make you a confident and social Chad you fuck, just means you speak your mind

>>26433361
my day to day life consists of anime, video games and 4chan

let's hate normie extrovert fags together anon

>>26433526

>Why are you on DSP?

ASD, severe anxiety disorder, Major depressive disorder

>desperately need job
>been looking for jobs for past couple of weeks
>Every single job lists one of these as requirements to be considered
>"Must have X years experience"
>"Must have tertiary qualification/certificate III


what the fuck do I do ausbots, what do all of you do as jobs?

>>26433510
Isn't QLD full of islander looking dudes? I lived there for a few years and it was a horrible experience. Melb is just full of Asians at the most, and they don't bother anyone
Also I'm too scared to go out alone at night, I'll never know those car park feels

>>26433432

It's sad because, once upon a time I truly believe the money would've enabled me to live a more fruitful, independent lifestyle. I may've even been able to address my condition more readily. But I don't feel as if that's an option anymore, I feel thoroughly defeated by the system, and the powers that be. Now here I am, nearing 24 years of age, still suffering on NewStart. Fortunately I don't have to participate in work for the dole, due to my DES-status.

>>26433505
Fair call. I'm not at work so I can freely admit that most people are fairly hard done by in life.

If you're earning under a certain threshold, you can sometimes be eligible for NSA. You'll be required to report every fortnight, and work a certain amount of hours.

>>26433481

I failed one class in the first semester which was a prerequisite for another class which is going to push the completion date past the allowable time. I was living in a violent situation and had to relocate during that semester so I assumed it might be a valid appeal.

>>26433541
People with degrees have trouble finding jobs and you're trying to find one without? Hope you're ready to work at Maccas.

I'd like a double quarter pounder, thanks.

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Hey robots I have a question for you.

I had me a gf years ago and we ended because of the distance (I drove up 3 hours to get her and bring her home when ever we met) We ended thanks to her and I havent had a woman since (4 years) we kinda remained like friends I think

She got knocked up to a Chad douche and he left her almost instantly and I was ther efor her all though out the pregnancy even when she went into labor I rode all the way up to her to be by her side for 3 days Hell I was there before her mum was and they live just 10 min from the hospital and still im treated as a friend even though I would have helped rasied the kid and taken her in.

I still love her but I dont know what I did to have deserved this shit but I dont know what to do.

I feel fucked and drinking while on depression meds dont help me at all

Why do all women that you bend over backwards for end up killing you in return?

>>26433553
i think most of the kiwis fucked off back to new cuckland when the economy here shit the bed

anywhere outside of brisbane and logan are white paradise

it's so nice outside that sitting inside feels good even, just having a rainforest outside the window

>>26433531
Sorry to break it to you Anon but I'm >>26433451

>>26433584
fatboy desu senpai imo

>>26433594
dont cuck yourself with that selfish whore anon you deserve better

cut all contact, knowing the kid will only make it worse

>>26433598
Fug Anon
You're making me lose confidence in my beloved Melbland
It does sound pretty comfy there

>it's another depressing centrelink austhread episode

please. I want to kill myself enough already

>>26433535
Probably considered ongoing conditions. Combined with their severity, you probably skated through.
As I'm giving genuine advice tonight, I'll say: please keep an eye on your letters and correspondence. A lot of people have been missing it (cause for a lot of people, managing to get on DSP has been equal to permanent easy street) and getting their payment suspended.

>>26433557
Honestly, I'd say go get re-assessed. But if your doctor or psych won't back up the claim that you can't work, you're probably out of luck.

>>26433615
It's always funny when manlets think everyone is small and weak like them. I'll eat my burger AND your burger, shrimp.

>>26433594
>so beta you can't even be the beta cuck who raises chad's child with her

damn son

>>26433579
Nah you should be fine.
Just update student details to reflect your completion date, and if you get asked, just say that.
Usually we have extended allowable time for people who fail once (twice at max, if its not the same subject).
If you're required to provide evidence, just take it from there. It sounds like a legit thing, and god knows there have been allowances for less.

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>>26433616
Hell ive held him and he grabbed my hand that kid is beautiful and I know I shouldnt cuck myself but honestly the women in the ACT are fucked beyond all reason hell even Uni girls dont look twice at me and I come home to drink myself into a stupor when I can afford it

>>26433631

I'm

>>26433535

I'm up to date with letters, all accounts are linked, I even went in to Centrelink to update info and they mentioned it'll stay with me.

>>26433634
I'm probably taller than you mate, I'm just not so much of a fatass anymore like yourself

t. a 6'3" Queenslander

>>26433672
First, I'm not your fucking mate, mate and second, we're the same height. Fucking Queenslanders. Remind me never to visit.

>>26433662
she will use you while he grows up, take your money, then seperate and go to court and claim that as you were in a de facto relationship you need to pay child support

then she will train him to hate you and cut all contact

just dont do it it's not worth it. trust me a life of complete loneliness is better than having your kid taken away from you by a filthy entitled western woman

sometimes I think I'd be better off homeless than on centrelink

rural victoria robot here

>tfw somehow scored interview for for a job after 4 years of NEETdom

i am shitting myself. i have no idea how to function in the outside world anymore, but i am getting kicked out of my parents place

>>26433726
Yeah, job seeker is pretty much just slave labour now. The smart aussies are all studying or working.

>>26433667
Alrighty, all good. U35 reviews haven't affected you.
As for your original line of questioning, other peoples' payments change for a bunch of reasons. Depends which ones they were on.

>>26433603
my bad, i'm drunk

but you are probably a normie so you can go die

but if you aren't a normie let's join forces to overthrow the evil empire

>>26433748
yeah. If only I didn't have a severely damaging childhood that left me with an inability to function around people despite an iq of 135

>>26433703
Your right mate thank you I should just cut her out of my life im alone so I guess so be it

>>26433748
>slave labour
>spend 8 hour days dealing with a parade of people whose only job is to go to appoints, "look" for work and report every 2 weeks
>slave
>labour

This thread is just so cathartic - I can tell you to go fuck yourself.

>>26433750

Ah, ok.

Thanks for the info man and thanks for helping. Hope things are good on your end.

>>26433432

I'm autistic to the point of having panic attacks from things like dropping a plate of food or being approached by strangers, I went to a pretty empty cornerstore last week and I almost passed out from terror

can I get loads of autismbux

>>26433413
>oral presentations
>group assignments
>required attendance

Thanks for the kek m8

>>26433773
I'm not sure what you think working in the real world is like but it's mostly getting along with others. They'll hire a likeable guy over a socially retarded genius almost always.

Sorry to hear about your shitty childhood. I was raised by a single mother but I can't complain.

>usually lots of people from GC in ausbot threads
>friday night and im the only one


hmmmmmm was I wrong? Are most gold coast users actually disgusting normies?

>>26433594
Dude she got knocked up by someone else and you did a 6 hour round trip every time you saw her.

Quit while you're ahead.

>>26433776
Aww. look at cute little buddy boy. got himself a job weeding for Mr Goldberg and now he's on power trip.

>>26433833
I think QLD in general is normie paradise.

Melbourne master race here. Just as many weirdos and outcasts as there are normies.

>>26433777
All good - honestly it's kinda fun. It's only more fun when exchange programs at the uni I go to waltz into my tutorials and throw around phrases like "Centrelink will pay for your travels" and I get to call them down.

>>26433786
Can you get a doctor or psych to provide, in writing, information that communicates in no uncertain terms that these conditions are keeping you from working and functioning in normal society?

>>26433866

>Can you get a doctor or psych to provide, in writing, information that communicates in no uncertain terms that these conditions are keeping you from working and functioning in normal society?

yes

What type of job should I be trying to get as a fundamentally broken human being in Chad: the country?

I'm similar to this >>26433786, I've woken up in the middle of a panic attack which I think was because there were too many people around me in my dream. When I try talk to other people, I just go completely brain-dead, I can't form even simple responses. My parents aren't going to take this much longer and I really need to start getting an income, but there's no way I could get centrelink because from four years old, my dad ingrained into my head how disgusting it is to be a dole bludger. My parents also earn too much.

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>>26433626

>enter late night Aus thread
>Centrelink music starts playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALngdQl8zcs

>>26433838
>weeding for Mr Goldberg
Dude, I work for the government. I don't know if you've noticed, but specifically, I work for Centrelink.
Newstart/jobseekers isn't slave labour, it's a free $400+ a fortnight.

Hi bots. I saw centrelink bloke and that inspired me. I am here to offer help. On the odd chance some of you are employed or want to know how the tax system works (and mildly relates to centrelink, mostly in a debt/child support capacity)

My Skills:
>individual tax related questions
>business tax related questions
>student loans, compulsory repayment, voluntary repayment, indexation

First spoiler alert:

If you have a student loan, at 31/12/2017, the 5% repayment bonus for voluntary payments made over $500 is going to be abolished, so make the most of that if you can.

>>26433895
About the student loan: When do I pay the $500 to get the discount?

>>26433882
Then get one prepared, call Centrelink or go in, get your forms (DSP is still on paper claims) and get started.

>>26433889
Lost my shit. Thanks for the share anon.
Fun fact - we go on hold ourselves half the time we need you on hold, and get the exact same music.

>>26433887
night shift doing menial physical labour somewhere with limited contact, but it sounds like youre too autistic for even that. so, suicide (i recommend this, but not from a place of malice. very few people are capable of accurate assessment of the merits of existence which leads them to place an inordinate amount of value in staying alive) or autismbux, which you sound like you qualify for. your choice

>>26433895
Will turdbulls new start up scheme let me start a new company and transfer the assets of the old one into it to apply for all the perks?

>>26433895
Actually, now that you're here, I'll just ask some stuff.
>what's your role/APS level?
>what do you know about changes to YAL start up scholarship/loan?
I'm fairly certain this is a debt tacked on to HECS.
>how often do you use the DHS data link to check earnings from Centrelink fortnightly reports?
And my favourite area
>how often do you get people whining when ATO takes family tax benefit supplements for a tax debt, or their tax refunds gets taken by Centrelink for a family tax benefit debt?

>>26433934
Dude why did you go on so long about suicide whereas autismbux is hardly visible. Not very positive, m8.

>>26433889

This has happened to me. All aussies know how notoriously shit centrelink is with their phone service, no fault of their own but they're getting assraped by millions the worst kind of people every day.

I also don't think they outsource, centrelink dude can maybe confirm this. I don't envy his phone shenanigans at all.

>>26433924

If you have a loan and it is viewable on your Statement of Account (SOA), you can make a voluntary payment of any amount at any time. You can call the ATO's individual line on 132866 to get a balance of your HELP loans (student loans of any kind). When you call, have your ID like TFN, address, name, dob and passport or birth certificate ready. Ask for help linking up to myGov if you haven't already. You can see your SOA online at any time, you can also lodge your tax returns and manage ur details.

tl;dr know how much your balance is, ask about payment options on the phone, make payment.

Use this tool: https://www.ato.gov.au/Calculators-and-tools/HELP-voluntary-repayment/

>>26434015
i explained in the same post, if you bothered to read it. suicide isn't the le evil boogeyman people make it out to be. life is SEVERELY overrated

>>26433934
Where would I be able to get work like that? Will I need a forklift license or something?

I'm pretty far gone, and while I was never really good with people, I used to be A LOT better. I don't doubt that I'll get better with extended exposure, but the problem is overcoming it all at the beginning.

>>26433895
Is the ATO going to share/receive information with overseas governments to make sure I pay my HECS if I go overseas and work?

How is my income assessed regarding exchange rates?

>>26434023
Thx m8 ill use the calc tomorrow
Fuckin 1am and shit

>>26434049
Eh. I just don't think suicide is a good option. What's the saying.... Permanent solution to a temporary problem. It's kind of just normie garbage but yeah, don't kill yourself.

>>26434075
supermarkets employ shelf stackers that work the graveyard shift exclusively. you will still need to make occasional contact with other humans but if you think you might be able to handle it no harm in trying. these jobs are typically easier to get, as well. high demand for workers and very limited experience requirements

>>26434083
not all problems are temporary, and not all temporary problems are worth enduring. you're going to end up dead regardless, and life isn't the super happy fun slide most people make it out to be, it will only get harder from here until you die in a likely painful manner

>>26433895

This might be dumb question but do people with centrelink payments as their sole income pay tax? I've always assumed it would be below whatever the threshold is.

Guys I don't want to be a kv anymore. How does a robot in Australia get laid?

Australians cannot be robots. LITERALLY chad - the country

>>26434158
i havent had sex in years but when i did its because my friends (REEEEEEEEEEEEEE i know, they know i am retarded but still like me) dragged me to normie parties and some drunk slut found me attractive enough. if youre ugly, i dont really know desu. probably try and develop a friendship with a girl and work off that rather than attempting to date them right off the bat. though that will most likely land you in the friendzone anyway. i truly feel for my ugly robot brethren, it must be what i feel but tenfold. at least take solace in the fact that there are people out there SO AUTISTIC AND AWKWARD that even having a nice face cant save them

>>26434158
Since you call yourself a robot, I doubt you go to bars with m8s so... maybe try Tinder or just make some friends and stop caring so much. I don't know why undesirables want to get laid so badly. You'd think they would just accept their fate and whatnot.

>>26434002

I am a CSR and my APS level is 3. I handle inbound phone calls like you. I also handle inbound correspondence (very broad range of topics) but one of my recent highlights is now getting access to DIBP which means I can see passport details of anyone who entered or left the country. Mad snooping.

I have not been made aware of any changes to the YAL startup loan, truthfully I didn't know that it existed, if I got a call about it, I'd direct people to centrelink phone lines to answer it because they facilitate the loan. Once it becomes a HELP debt, I can provide advice.

No one in my centre handles DHS payment earnings to check income. That may be something that other ATO sites do if they need to work out child support arrangements or confirm reported taxable income. Normally what I would do is check ATOMS in corporate apps and compare welfare payments vs declared income from PAYGW employers to see if people had been claiming centrelink and working at the same time. Centrelink doesn't withhold tax but it counts as taxable income so people get 20-25k on centrelink and then earn another 10-15 and end up with a tax liability.

FTB calls happen alot around tax time, but since we're well past the lodgement due date of 15FY these calls have really died off. It became a little bit satisfying to tell people that they aren't getting shit and their money was used to clear an existing debt.

This also applies to people who have other forms of debt on other accounts like PAYGI or activity statements, or entities and composite debt/insolvency. People seem to think their income tax return is immune.

They come and cry to us and we palm them off to you because we literally don't give a fuck. Sorry <3.

>>26434179
what if i was a shutin from a young age, have never even had a gf, kissed/hugged/had sex, and haven't seen a person other than my mum and healthcare professionals for 3 months

>>26433895
>5%
Ahahaahaha!
I remember when it was 30% and I still didn't bother repaying. HELP is still the best loan you can get and you don't even have to pay it unless you earn more than average. Not worth repaying imo

>>26434223
you can also move overseas and get paid a shitload and STILL never have to repay it. devlishpepe.jpg

>>26434075
>>26434109
i stack shelves at woolies and i fucking love it

everyone is a casual easy going 40something you can basically do your own thing all night with headphones in or you can work with someone else and spend the night talking you dont need to be really clean, shaven or in nice clothes most of the time, you don't have to deal with customers or other departments, all the higher up managers have gone home for the night by the time you get there

you'll probably luck out and get put in some store thats open while you are filling with a bitch of a manager and hate everyone though

>>26434158
fucked if i know, there are no robot women in australia

>>26434236
GENIUS
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Wait but what if they don't let to you back into the country, lol.

>>26434209
this is what I am

got bullied in early teen years

dropped out

now a socially retarded adult

also tall and not completely ugly

>>26434267
ok are you me mate

>>26434151

It really depends on how much income they got from centrelink. If it's their only source of income and they don't get more than 18200 a year I think it's actually impossible to have tax withheld on it due to how little the amount of money they get is. I have seen some rare cases where people get more than 18200, probably have kids and family benefits that ARE taxable.

go to ato.gov.au and search for fortnightly tax tables to see how much you have to "earn" or be paid to start withholding tax. Basically, if you earn a certain amount of money during that pay cycle, you will be taxed and money will be withheld, even if you don't work for the rest of the year and thus earn less than 18200.

That search term works for monthly and weekly too. Get acquainted, useful stuff.

>>26433892
I'm just pulling your leg for taking life a little too seriously f a m. Chill out a bit. None of this will matter in 100 years

>>26434267
M8... describing too many cunts here m8

To be honest, though. Even after being a NEET for years, I never lost my likeable personality.

>tfw personality genetics

>>26434158
We go on a pilgrimage to Melbourne and ask Warney on how to do it.

>>26434199
>just stop caring about your main biological imperative and the fact that you are in the 0.01% of humanity that will never be loved

Of course, why didn't I think of that?

>>26433835
Somehow I don't think he's ahead.

>>26434197
Damn it, I can't into friendships even with guys. And I haven't been invited to a party in years. I'm so fucked. What's the point of living?

>>26434109
>>26434243
Alright, thanks guys.

>you'll probably luck out and get put in some store thats open while you are filling with a bitch of a manager and hate everyone though
That's probably what'll happen.

Also,
>tfw spent the day downloading SFV and too scared to add people to play with on release

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I fucking did it Robots I told her that I was fucking out that she and the baby were not my responsibility and that I offered love and got rejected no matter what I sacrificed for her and that baby. I also told her she will remember that Iw as there for her when no body else was not even the father or her mother (I got to her labor well over an hour before her mum showed up dispite me riding 3 hours to get to her after I dropped everything to ride right then and there) and she will carry that weight with her the rest of her life as she is complaining that she has no man to help her raise her child when I gave her everything she wanted and was ready to give up everything for her.

I feel fucking invincible right now is this what self confidence feels like?

>>26434023
>maybe confirm
Can confirm.
Considering the system operation requirements, the role of interpreting legislation and the type of service offered, it's been considered and rejected multiple times. Contractors don't have the same standards, training, or requirements in their roles.
>myGov
Ever handle myGov calls? They're the bane of my existence.

>>26434202
>passport details
Yeah we have a direct link too (I deal with portability of payments, among many other things).
I avoid it, cause CustomerFirst might as well be called "big brother".

Yeah YAL startup loan got changed 01.01.16 and it becomes part of HELP repayment. Luckily we deal with the calls, as they need to apply for it to get it now, so we handle the questions.

20-25k on Centrelink? I feel like that'll be Carer's payment in a circumstance where it isn't a pension. I know FTB is non-taxable, and most social security pensions are.

>little bit satisfying
I've had orgasms less satisfying than those conversations.
People who leave their estimate at 60k and end up earning 90k because they think they'll get away with it are the worst kinds of people.
>"b-but you're the government you should know and fix it for us"

>Palm them off to you
It's ok, when I get people (mostly indigenous people) who don't know their TFN and want us to tell them, I shuffle them off to the ATO cause we can't legally provide it. Often I'm looking right at it - it's perverse enjoyment.

>>26434223
>>26434236
https://www.ato.gov.au/rates/help-and-financial-supplement-indexation-rates/

Here is why you don't want to do that.

The loans aren't static. They raise every year based upon the CPI which is based upon the cost of living. Every year you leave that loan sitting idle it accrues an increase in "value" over time to align it with the cost of living and keep it revelant. It rises with inflation.

https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Study-and-training-support-loans/Overseas-repayments/

Getting away overseas won't save you anymore. From 2017 you MUST pay the loan back with your foreign income, or you will face repercussions with the ATO. They did this because too many people were exploiting the system.

Not saying I agree with it, that's jus thow it is.

The more you know, bots.

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>>26434337
>What's the point of living?

This is an individual question and if you don't have an answer then you should kill yourself. No memes. Just end it, my friend. No point dragging out your pain. The secret truth is that we should all do this, but few people are capable of recognising it, and of those few fewer still are capable of ending it. If you are, then by all means, get out while you're behind.

>>26434351
>I feel fucking invincible right now is this what self confidence feels like
I don't know, but can you tell me how you managed to get a gf in the first place?

>>26434384
>promoting suicide

y

Actually, I don't really care. I'd care if I knew him or he was a pretty girl or something. Yeah, I'm heartless but I'm also honest which is more than you can say about most people.

>>26434383
>It rises with inflation
Yeah, but so does my income and my term deposit.

>>26434273
Can chip in here.
Just waiting for some cunt from Medicare to jump in and we'll have some real advice going.

Most ISP (income support payments for people who think I mean internet service provider) don't earn over the threshold if it's their only income.
Getting more than $18 200 is pretty much impossible to achieve and have it taxable. FTB isn't taxable, and social security pensions are exempt (DSP, AGE etc.).
I feel like ISP customers are also working if they're getting over the threshold.

>>26434406
Please I got an internet gf though Okcupid (By trying to not fuck up talking so saying stuff like "Tell me about yourself" and "haha thats funny") and it went alright for a while like a year with me doing a 6 hour round trip to get her and she would spend a few days at my house but it ended because she was an idiot and didnt see what I was willing to offer and she spat on my love and left me for a Chad farmer douche bag and got knocked up and now is a single mum living at home at the age of 26 hahaha

She fucked up hard

>>26434430
this desu, what you said has no consequence. i will never be earning enough to have to repay it, either in this country or overseas. so the ATO can eat several penises

>>26434384
The only reason I keep going is because I secretly think I can still change. But I'm getting older and time is running out, and each failure sucks away at my last embers of hope. There's no way I can take another 50 years of this, so suicide is pretty much inevitable I guess.

>>26434412
T-Thanks

>>26434412
Because it's a good solution. You are extraordinarily biased towards because of a combination of upbringing and survival instincts. You are incapable of thinking logically about your life. You're not alone, obviously, but that doesn't make it any less retarded.

>>26434464
Hey, not dissing you man
>(By trying to not fuck up talking so saying stuff like "Tell me about yourself" and "haha thats funny")
So you were pretty neutral? I mean like you didn't try to make jokes and shit, just listened to her problems? How long from that until you started meeting for sexytime?

>>26434273
How do the ato know when you're doing the dodgy?

I'm 21 and have been audited twice now when doing my tax. I've been running an enterprise of sorts where I provide comfort to lonely people in exchange for donations (it's not prostitution it's all online), the money goes through my paypal into my bank acc.

Am I just unlucky or do you guys have access to bank history and know I'm doing something wrong?

>>26434487
get out satan-kun

>>26434362

>contractors don't have the same standards

I think this is a misconception. I won't lay down an argument about it but what I will say is that DHS phone lines are buckling under the pressure and have done so for years, and the gov won't spring for extra sites and employees so no chance of seeing it fixed soon.

myGov calls are a breeze. We verify a document, give them a code, tell them to enter the code and send them on their way in 4-8 mins depnding on how up-to-date their POI is. The most annoying part is dealing with ATO online because we can't access the website and see what they're looking at, at all, no emulator, no screenshots, nothing. They expect us to know exactly what they fucked up when they were lodging their tax return online (normally they didn't read anything at all, so you have to do the thinking for them, feels so blind).

>20-25k

I don't normally pry or ask, we do have the payment acronyms but they're three letters and some of them aren't very intuitive, we don't have the information in a readily available resource to check it out so I remain ignorant.

>FTB untaxable
I might be confused here, but I think people apply for FTB or some kind of lump sum payment once a year and I've had a memory of problems to do with it. I think it's because alot of the time they haven't lodged their ITR yet, and if they have it's within 28 day service standard after their return is processed to have data processed by DHS. Also if they got FTB in a lump sum and had any debts with the ATO it would be offset to the debt AFAIK.

>worst kind of people
Speaking from experience, it will always catch up with you. You can't avoid tax if you have a paper trail, so make sure the paper trail lines up.

>indigenous people
I've had rare encounter on the phone here and there but we have an indigenous line that we transfer them to, or give them the number. I don't remember it but it's a 6 digit 13 number in barracuda (if you have that).

>>26434487
How is cutting off all future possibilities a good move? You have no idea what will happen. You have no idea what will give you happiness or sadness. People are notoriously shit at predicting our own emotions, so hitting the quit button a quarter way into your only play through seems pretty fucking dumb.

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>>26434533
It was like 2 months of letting her talk about herself and me just being nice like to saying "You look nice in X photo" or just giving small compliments and be not an asshole and people are normally open to talking.

Then again most women are horrible in this country

Its all about the first impression I find but then again I havent had sex in like 4 years+ so what do I know

>>26434442
>working to get over the threshold
very often this is the case.

Not illegal technically, but people don't realise they are going to get raped by a tax bill at the end of the FY. You may be able to clarify this for me, if you're on a DHS payment your payments get limited based on your income. Is it limited by how much you self report or is it actually automatically datamatched (doubtful)?

It's not illegal to work and cento at the same time, but it is a bad idea to not report your income properly lest you get a tax bill at the end of the FY.

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>>26434547
>guy that wants to help you end your needless suffering is satan

rofl, the dna molecule has really done a number on humanity. you guys really have no idea what is going on here, in this life, do you?

>>26434579
happiness doesn't exist, there is only temporary reprieve from suffering. look up optimism bias. i think that if you were honest with yourself about the kind of things that can occur to a sentient organism on this planet you wouldn't be so blindly keen to stick around. remember anon, your messy end approaches, breath by breath. and the interim will be almost exclusivly pain and boredom

>>26434543
Your bank requires you to declare your TFN for your account, otherwise it has to withhold tax on interest. You may have declared the TFN. Regardless of whether you have or not, we have access to EVERYTHING because the banks answer to the ATO, so if we need to match your income to a person we can do that based upon the POI that the bank has for you without a TFN anyway.

As for the audits, I'm not trained in auditing, but I would presume that something to do with the income you've declared and what we see is actually coming into your accounts is maybe not lining up exactly. I don't really know about the restrictions and what would be triggering it, it's above my pay grade.

>>26434561
>buckling under the pressure
Couldn't agree more. Centrelink is getting a bunch of funding, so they're dealing with it by introducing casual roster APS3s. Infrastructure is another issue, but they're putting all their eggs in the myGov, self-service basket.

See I'm not sure if you're on the helpdesk, but I am, and I get the "why isn't it working" calls.
We get a background view of what they're doing, but we can't access myGov at all.

>payment acronyms
If you wanna write them down, I'll give them here:
>YAL/Youth Allowance
>NSA/Newstart
>AUS/Austudy
>SKA/Sickness Benefit
>DSP/Disability Support Pension
>CAR/Carer's Payment
>CDA/Carer's Allowance
>PPS/PPP/Parenting Payment Single/Partnered
>FTB/Family Tax Benefit
>CCF/CCI/Child Care Benefits (this also includes rebate.
If its a pension, its non-taxable. FTB and family assistance are also non-taxable.

FTB is calculated as a lump sum. They estimate their taxable income. They can chose to claim retrospectively as a lump sum after they've lodged, or can estimate their taxable income, get the sum calculated on that estimate and it gets paid in fortnightly installments.
We reconcile at the end of the FY - this is when they get their lump sum, and we check their income via ATO data link and if necessary, top them up or raise a debt.

>rare encounter
Aren't you lucky. Ever heard of income management and BasicsCards?
I work with them. Every. Day.
13 numbers are all us.

>>26434604
Hey thanks for the insight into relationships. So autistic that this is useful to me.
One more question if you are so inclined: how did the conversation leading up to the first sex go like? Were you guys just talking about everyday stuff and suddenly decide "let's fuck" or was there some sort of build up?

A-anyone from Japan?
6 mins til Valentine's Day here

>>26434631
>>26434736
Kinda touched on it here with FTB reco.
We do it two ways - the way I discussed with FTB is only with FTB, and its a weird and outdated system we keep for some reason.
We datamatch at the end of the FY automatically, or as needed manually.

For ISP, if they work, they're expected to report every fortnight. They report at the end of their entitlement period, and their payment is adjusted. We basically take their word for it, but everyone gets reviewed randomly (system generated thing) at some point, even when they're not on payments any more and either have to provide payslips or their NOA/tax year info.

>Bad idea
If they're not reporting with us, they also get a debt. Some people genuinely think they'll get away with it.

>>26434777
unhappy valentines day then, japbot

Hey centrebro, I'm with a DES and they want to try to lower my work threshold to 15hrs. What are my chances?

>>26434736

>all eggs in myGov
The long term plan is to minimise the amount of paperwork done by all government agencies, I think the target is 50-80%, we get an alert every now and then. It costs a shitload of money to do paperwork and a shit load of man hours. It has nothing to do with trees, but I think trees are awesome and we should save those cunts, infact I'm going to go hug one after I wake up tomorrow.

>myGov helpdesk
Nah i'm not helpdesk but I could handle helpdesk enquiries. without a trouble. We can only assist as well, we can't access myGov. Also, people get so mad when they forget their PW and then permanently lock their account. They also have an inability to follow easy instructions to retrieve their passwords so it's infuriating.

>acronyms
Thanks a bunch for that man, i'll screenshot so I can check later on.

>income management and basics cards
I heard of them but I thought they were a meme. Must be a NT and Alice thing, I barely get calls from those areas. Sounds like a charming experience.

Saw earlier in the thread about the hold music and how we get it too KEK. We're told only two mins on the specialist line now otherwise NPE (non phone escalation) so that they get a callback. I'd ask if you guys do the same but I'm pretty sure I know the answer already.

I think one of the reasons that cento is so plagued with service delivery problems is that the entity itself doesn't generate its income at all, it relies on a budget handout for everything which means it's very constrained. Tax department, however, has one hand in the pocket of every man, woman, child, entity, trust, corporation, company, partnership etc... in the country. It can justify its own expenditure.

Bit unfortunate, bit backwards, but this is ausfailia after all. I'm moving to europe.

>>26434839
Are you on DSP? Or on NSA with disability factored into your mutual obligations?

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>>26434682
That's terrifying..

I've been making 20k min over what I've been declaring for the last 3 years, straight into my bank account. Can you venture a guess as to why it hasn't gone further than these audits?

If the ato does come after me is worst case I'll have to pay back what I didn't declare? What if I say they were donations, is there a donation tax?

>>26434905
The second one. I work part time, so no dsp for me.

>>26434754
I literally got a case of cider (Girls like sweet stuff) and we had a few drinks and eventually I worked up the courage to overcome my autisticness and I started getting a little touchy and began make outs then one thing lead to another we went into the bedroom and as soon as we hot the bed shit took off from there

>>26434898
Pretty much. With Centrelink it's a step further, hoping to get a bunch of people off the phones for simple stuff (FTB estimates, fortnightly reporting, etc.).
Like, the cost alone for the department in reporting calls is ludicrous.

>retrieve their passwords.
Mate.
When they're locked out for good, and we tell them to make a new one (requiring a new email if they want it done quicker) we might as well have told them to go and extract their fingernails with rusty pliers.

>meme
I wish. They are pretty much NT and Alice, but WA as well, plus some select areas where they want to roll it out to white people lol.
To be fair, it's been effective at helping indigenous people manage their finances and not blow it all on crap, but I imagine it'll be worse in the suburbs.

>callback
>Centrelink
>mysides.jpg
Yeah, what people should start reconciling themselves to is that we're gonna do it as fast as we can, and that hold means a) we need help or b) you're an annoying twat. It'll last as long as it lasts.
I get people genuinely confused as to why their SO didn't call back when the call "dropped".

Also you're right on the money - the government doesn't want to dump money into a branch that is designed to hemorrhage taxes.

You know anything about that whole "ATO is going after multi-nationals" for taxes?

>>26434941

You have to be registered as a charitable organisation to accept donations and be tax exempt on that income. You may have survived surface level checks but you will eventually be caught, mark my words.

My advice is to either register with http://acnc.gov.au/ if you're eligible (protip: in this case, you're probably not) or lube your anus up for the long dick of the taxation law.

Probably worth saving some money for a rainy day to cover future liabilities, calculate how much tax you should have paid by comparing tax threshholds for the past three years to how much you earnt, how much tax you paid and how much you actually should have.

In the grand scheme of things the amount so far is trivial, when compared to some of the cases fraud officers deal with every day but this doesn't work in your favour. It will only make them more apathetic to your excuses about why you never paid it and how it shouldn't be counted as income.

https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/In-detail/How-tax-works/What-is-income-/?page=1#Introduction

This says that "gifts" are not generally considered assessable income however if you were using these donations to pay bills or eat food or anything else, it will be considered as income.

A gift would be something from someone like a family member and in a one-off occasion, rather than a form of income generated by a service you've provided.

>>26434984
Well it depends on who's managing you. If you're managed by Centrelink, be prepared to justify it. If you're managed by your own provider, they generally negotiate it all with you, send the data through to us and an SO/the system makes sure what you're reporting matches your requirements.

>>26434988
Cool, that sounds pretty doable. My problem would be getting a girl comfortable enough with me to want to have drinks in the first place. I'm just so fucking awkward, I don't blame girls for avoiding me.
Did you find you had to have similar likes/dislikes in order to connect, or is that not necessary? Did you have to be entertaining and interesting, or was being supportive enough?

>>26435079
Thank you for your help.

I've saved most of it, I try and only spent my real income but it all gets pooled into the same place, I should have just left it in my paypal account.

*lubes up* guess I'll be expecting you guys.

>>26435102
I find that when you get a girl talking about herself they are more happy to do that and when you need to talk about yourself it helps to have a funny story like a time you ended up in a Stupid situation due to drinking or just having fun (if you dont have one just make one up) dont take everything so seriously heck if you meet a girl online (Best way to get yourself used to girls or hell even a retail job)

just have an ice breaker ready like one of the ones I use is the time I woke up nude on a gold course when I was 18 wearing only my suit jacket and my left sock and had to walk down the main road back tot he holiday house my friends were at on monday morning in turros heads (True story btw got cock blocked that night and had god knows how much vodka)

>>26434081
>ATO gov sharing info
I really don't know the specifics of this. I am not trained in foreign income so I can't give you a straight answer. There is a possibility that this could happen, maybe it's a clause in the TPP or something like that? Or maybe we're going to get you to declare your earnings while overseas, who knows how they're going to implement it. I might try and find out on monday, you've made me curious.

Check this for foreign exchange rates info or call 132861 and ask for foreign come to be cold transferred to an internal team who knows more about both questions.

https://www.ato.gov.au/Rates/Foreign-exchange-rates/

Sorry for the late reply, this question got buried.

>>26434000
>turnbulls scheme
Idk much about it mate, if it hasn't passed legislation yet it's gonna take a while for any details to trickle down. I don't think you'd be allowed to take assetts from an established entity. I'm not trained in capital gains tax yet. Probably have to call up the ATO and ask.

Sorry for late reply, post got buried and I was answering others.

>>26435208
Thanks for the advice. Now I have a decent framework, I just need enough material to last a whole conversation without an awkward silence.

I'm going to sleep guys, it's late as fuck. If there's any further questions here in the morning I'll answer them, but I also have to go thriftshopping in the morning. Also going to have to work out how to cope with another valentines year alone without drugs and alcohol ;_;

Nah jk I'll manage.

Main message for you all is to be very aware of your tax affairs and keep that shit in order.

Also, if you call up and have all your information ready to identify yourself on the phone we will love you.

>name
>dob
>TFN (IS SUPER IMPORTANT HOLY SHIT)
>Address on file

^simplest way to identify yourself on the phones. Do the voice authentication, don't be a paranoid cunt, your voice isn't important and has already been recorded without you knowing it hundreds of times before. It just makes it easier to be identified.

>>26435363
Dude if you want help I can guide you though it I know its like hell the first time but you and every other robot are not beyond hope.

If you want list a contact point and I will help were I can mate

from QLD

I browse this board because it's a time machine to /b/ 2011 and I'm just confused about this board in general...

>no impetus

>>26435402
Yeah man, that would be great. My email is [email protected]

Gonna sleep now, but we'll talk later

>>26435581
Sleep tight robot you is a good niggah

>>26431715
oi m8 I feel like killing myself oi oi oi.

tfw have never been able to visit Australia
just kill me