>be 22 year old kv NEET highschool dropout
>21 year old cousin is studying CS in college
>he comes over for Christmas
>im pretty interested in computers, so talk to him about stuff from college
>talk to him about vector video formats, and how cool would it be if they gain worldwide adoption, animations would be small in size and resizable
>he doesn't understand shit
>ask him his favorite programming language (he's 3rd year)
>ask him the difference between Mebibyte and Megabyte (just as random triva because many people get confused)
>he has no idea what a Mebibyte is
>ask him if he's doing any side projects
>none. I, a highschool dropout is making a coffee machine from scratch with a microcontroller and breadboards and he, a CS student doesn't have any side projects, even software ones
>ask him why is he even doing CS when he doesn't care about computers and the science behind them at all
>"because 6 figure salary anon"
>mfw most CS grads end up as codemonkeys with shit salaries
Thats it, dont go to college. Its a bubble thats bursting, nobody in college gives a fuck about what they're studying, they just there for the money. Darn i thought i'd finally get someone to talk about my interests to
It feels good pretending to be better then someone doesn't it. Instead of pretending, i advise you get a g.e.d and then go to cc, if that mouthbreather can do it so can you faggot
Even as expensive as it is now, college is def. worth it. Maybe not for Computer Science though.
>25 yr old in second year of CS
>no motivation or knowledge to do any of my own projects, just want to end up with a decent job where I don't have to talk to many normies.
you sound like an unbearable cunt desu fampai
3rd year undergrads in most majors barely know anything about their field apart from skills that look good on resumes. The goal of a degree is to get you into a job where you'll learn the niche shit you need. There's no point learning that in school unless you already know exactly what kind of job you are going to get. You don't really get into niche shit in college until you go to grad school.
That isn't to say college is worth it but you're talking shit about something you know nothing about.
Dude you dont need to go to college to do that shit. I know kids that just straight up showed they can code and got jobs. Do that, make some cash, bag a fattie off tinder
Oh no you're misunderstanding me, im not saying im better than my cousin. Im just saying, that my cousin, is making a wrong decision. He isn't interested by computers and yet he's doing CS. What could be worse than being bound to a particular field that doesn't excite you
, until you retire?
>who enjoys working with one of the most widely used languages in the world
Is this supposed to be a good thing? Unless by "enjoys working with" you mean "is in the top 100 programmers of", that just makes him sound like a fuvkibg pleb.
Its main use is to control web pages through a horrendous API called the DOM which requires you to step through a tree a gazillion times. People who are less skilled at CS confuse MUH API and MUH LANGUAGE and thus unfairly bash JS.
You guys should find a hobby or something, i program stuff because of pure leisure and nothing else. Theres nothing wrong with not applying your knowledge but its far better to find a hobby that you enjoy
For example i like playing around with microcontrollers and various algorithms to do stuff
This. OP seems to be under the impression that everybody can find something "exciting" to study in college. Most of the time hobbies and interests just don't overlap with jobs/degrees.
Thats very true, most hobbies dont overlap with occupation, but there are a lot of things you can do which you enjoy, that are related to your hobby.
For example if you like playing video games, you could become a video game maker, or you enjoy watching porn, you could become a porn cameraman (they're well in demand actually)
programming is like mental olympics. why people think they will have a job by simply having a degree in it confounds me.
i realized this very early on and have resigned myself to sticking with IT and just learning linux systems. perhaps i'll try and learn in the future, but i'm just not OCD/autistic enough to have it as a career.
I bought this dev board off ebay for like 20$
Pretty good, it has slots for 28 pin DIP and 40 pin DIP Atmega uCs. Currently have atmega8 and atmega32
I also have a couple of breadboards
programming is easy brothers, even sub 90IQ indians can do it, so dont every worry that you cant program because you cant into math, its just because you havent tried.
You can learn to program in a month maximum, but that is if you dont lose interest mid way
Of course you have a personal project: you have all the time in the world. Your cousin is busy with school. And not knowing what a mebibyte is irrelevant. Actual computer science doesn't require knowing the name for a certain amount of memory.
it's just like mental lifting dude. if you can think about how to parse shit in lists and control program flow, you can learn how to parse equations in graphs and do algebraic calculations.
School isn't for learning, it's for getting a piece of paper that society deems valuable. There will always be those who slide by just to get the piece of paper, and those genuinely interested in the material.
It's fine that you're a NEET interested in this stuff, but you can't hold the rest of the world to your stupid standards. You making a coffee machine from scratch and knowing the difference between Mebibytes and Megabytes is really just as useless as his degree.
But he's right. Knowing offhand the difference between a mebibyte and a megabyte is totally irrelevant to the majority of contemporary programming and even more irrelevant to actual computational science. Sorry, dude.
I know loads of people with tons of theoretical knowledge but not an ounce of practical.
My uncle for example, he's an electrical engineer, yet when electrical stuff breaks, he calls the repairman, he was at the top of his class too. My father, was among the mid tier students, opens up the broken machine, diagnoses the problem, buys appropriate parts to repair it, and then finally repairs the machine
Knowing it doesn't make you ultra smart or anything, but not knowing it does shows you dont give a fuck about what you're studying and wont do too well.
Knowing what a mebibyte to a CS student is like knowing the chemical formula of water to a chemical engineering student, they just HAVE to know it, or there's something seriously wrong
Its all because of those shit tier colleges popping in every corner of the country. They have no standards for teaching and produce shitty graduates who think they have actual employable skills while they dont, they just have a degree that says they do, otherwise they dont
Yes, but that's not the point I'm making here. Your uncle has measurable value to society because he has an electrical engineering degree, regardless of his ability to fix things. Your father has great practical ability, but doesn't have as great a GPA and this probably affected his career choices at graduation.
The point I'm trying to get across here is that value is more than just a practical measure. More often than not, it's a matter of perception. You don't value your cousin's skills and instead favor your own, but an employer would consider him before you because of his degree.
That's fine, I don't care that you're a NEET, this is a NEET board (or at least used to be), but just think about it from the other side.
>You don't value your cousin's skills and instead favor your own, but an employer would consider him before you because of his degree.
Is having a degree a skill or are you referring to something else?
Value doesn't equal skills
For the most part, a degree always holds value. Really shitty ones don't hold that much value, and neither do ones in irrelevant disciplines, but the point I'm trying to make here stands.
>rationalizing the fact that you can't program?
did you not read my post or something? i already know why i can't program, i'm already okay with it, i already know why most CS students drop out or earn chump change after graduation from not getting hired since they actually can't program. i can admit to myself that i'm not cut out for programming as a career, i've already done it.
jesus you're aspbergers as fuck, thank you for proving my point
The point I'm trying to make here, and that doesn't seem to be getting across, is that you can't shit on your cousin for not knowing about Mebibytes or want to make coffee machines from breadboards.
You don't have to work or get a degree to care about computers or CS. But there's inherent value in his degree, even if he doesn't cater to your tastes - he is employable for a salary, while you probably aren't.
Again, you don't have to work in this field to love it - just recognize that your cousin is onto something. Being a shitstain code monkey at six figures with no practical knowledge is at least comparable to a 22kv neet with breadboard coffee skills.
>i'm just not OCD/autistic enough
This is rationalization, just sour grapes. If you were being honest about it you would have said you're not capable enough, rather than trying to spin your shortcoming as a positive.
I meet retards like op from time to time. He clearly has zero understanding of computer science. Not surprising, given he is too stupid for high school.
Computer science isn't about learning various file formats for all computer applications. It isn't about learning trivia like what a mebibyte is, or whatever the fuck.
Computer science is about learning how to manipulate data, design algorithms, follow design patterns, and ultimately process information to produce useful results.
"But you don't know about vector video formats!" Give him a few years, let him read the specs, and he will. He will know more intimately than op could ever dream of.
he will be a code monkey and you will be burger flipper.
>i'm smarter as a kv highschool drop out than my cousin who is actually a functioning member of society and doesn't read rfc specs online
>>"because 6 figure salary anon"
Computer science is now what being a lawyer was 10 years ago.
>"hurr hurr i'ma be rich"
>decides to go into a field they had no previous interest or knowledge of
>either does this straight out of HS, or is doing "le online degree in 10 easy steps!"
>learns nothing applicable
>piles of debt
>ends up as a corporate bureaucrat
>tfw too stupid to ever into computers beyond swapping parts.
I'm not good/proficient at anything at all, so I picked business as my major. I have no clue what I'm going to do after school is done.
First let's get thsi out of the way, "Mebibyte" is seriously yuropoor autism, also all those "-bibyte" words are impossible to pronounce. Gibibyte? Get the fuck out of here
CS major fall into two major groups..
One is the lazy autist HS kids who watch MLP, smell like magic the gathering, dream of game design, and heard you don't have to do too much math to get a degree to get paid to play with computers. If they're "serious" they teach themselves python and feel accomplished
The other is undeclared or liberal arts major who switch into CS for the money. There's a large number of chem/history/english/bio grads who can't get a job or failed to get into med/law school, who go for an easy second major in CS. Again because the degree is easy. Included here is a subgroup of east asian or curry immigrants whose parents are making them do it, also for the money.
CS is a meme degree, it's practically liberal arts at this point. If you really like "computer science" please major in electrical/computer engineering or even just mathematics and you'll be better off and incidentally you'll actually know more about the field. If you do CS you need a PhD to not be just another CS bachelor's memeshit.
I have so many hobbies I get into, I might actually be able to since dropping videogames too. I'm just reading a lot at the moment. I've read five books this year which is more than I read all of last.
Also thinking about getting into joinery, programming and art.
I feel like the CS market is going to get oversaturated in the next couple of years, I mean the six figure salary meme can't go on forever and currently even more and more people are getting into the field. It might not happen now but in 5 years, who knows?
>they just there for the money
that has always been the reason, anon
You think normies playing college sports were there because they're passionate about academia?
Anyway, I'm going to go for architectural design. Somebody school me on why I shouldn't.
No college isn't really worth it in this day in age, there's enough decent paying jobs out of high school is you're not a degenerate. According to this graph I make as much a week as someone with a masters degree
>You can learn to program in a month maximum, but that is if you dont lose interest mid way
More like 2 months but it's very easy to lose interest, Ive done like 5 tries already to get out of NEETdom. It wasn't hard but it required discipline which I lack