Why is /r9k/ so obsessed with escapism? It seems like you guys prefer it over reality, which is pretty absurd to me. Some of you go way over the deep end and try to make tuplas or whatever. Why are you guys so obsessed with fiction when you could be instead improving your reality? Are your lives really that shity that you need to retreat to escapism every day?
>stop using anime
>thinks he's some kind of oldfag
Anime was here before you were born, kiddo
>Are your lives really that shity that you need to retreat to escapism every day?
For some of us, yes. Mainly those of us with real, physical, non-tumblr conditions.
Everything in my life is terrible, anime and video games are the only things that seem to trigger my happiness.
Why are you so hateful of escapism?
Let's say a fellow citizen has a job, pays taxes and abides to the law.
What is the problem of him living in his own little perfect world when by himself?
he's not causing anyone trouble and besides if you try to pop his bubble he'll probaly get depressed which would lower his producitivity at work and might get him to do illegal things like drugs or what not.
as an ecapist myself, i find it that the only way to be happy is to live in the world of videogames, imageboards and anime. without my waifus, battlestation and 4chan i'd very seriously consider suicide, and theres a good chance i'd do it, because my life is really, really shit.
escapism is the future. have you ever watched the matrix? scientists speculate that within a few million years we'll be able to develop the matrioshka brain - a super computer powered by white dwarf stars that creates a mental simulation for every person in the world. everyone would live in his/her perfect universe, and you'd only have to turn off the matrioshka brain as soon as the white dwarf goes dark, from which point you just have to find another one to spend several billion years in a state of complete happiness and bliss.
it is very hypocritical of you to talk about escapism, as for what you call reality are merely electronic signals moved forth and back in your nervous system. all that you touch, all that you feel, doens't really exist that way.
Making life more tolerable is way more effort than finding a life where everything is already cool.
Personally I just use dxm and don't have to worry about either. Seriously it's the best drug of all time and I don' tknow why more people don't like it. I mean I understand not everyone can handle it, but I mean shit, even just 60 or 90mg makes me feel good and I usually take that dose before going to see family, ride a bike, or run errands. I think I couldn't live life without it. Even if I could I know it's not worth living without it.
I like this image. I also take amphetamine(not with dxm because they are synergists but send my bp through the roof) and enjoy watching the math videos on khan academy and working through pirated textbooks. linear algebra a fuck. Anyway this quote captures both. Math is God, and God is math and God is everything and also nothing, which was everything before it was downgraded to an abstract concept.
Dissociated states make me feel a sense of the holy. It turns my brain to shit so I can't really follow much very well but I enjoy watching either popsci for dummies types documentaries like the Elegant Universe, or rewatching cool recreational math and shit on chaos, fractals, and mathematical patterns in nature while on dxm that I previously watched on amphetamine.
I am in awe of the beauty that is math. It pains me that I"m too stupid to understand it. I know guys who finished calc 2 in high school. I was 23 and it took me a while to feel I even came close to having a grasp on it. Even still It's mostly I just memorized the process and formulas. I couldn't figure it out for myself.
I enjoyed probability and statistics and permutations though and played with that so long I did get to where I felt I had an intuitive understanding of it. Kind of grade school I guess but I also played with different bases like binary, hex, duodecimal, vigesemal, etc. Bi and vig were by far my favorites.
Because escapism makes me feel things I can't find in real life.
My life has stagnated. I've been rejected by women my entire life, and I've never know companionship. I'm working on a deadend job, with no significant other, and the few friends I have either are starting to dislike me, or moved away.
I guess I like escapism because when I watch or read a romance anime/movie/VN, I get an idealized absurdly romanticized version of something I never had in real life, and it feels a void.
>Let's say a fellow citizen has a job
also you seem to be projecting pretty fucking hard, are you ok anon?
>Why is /r9k/ so obsessed with escapism? It seems like you guys prefer it over reality, which is pretty absurd to me.
You need to be really stupid or new here to be asking this question.
That's weird you use DXM like that I did that shit a couple times and it made me feel horrible. Same with ketamine. Hate being dissociated, it makes me feel like a dinosaur
A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies. The man who never reads lives only one.
same goes for watching anime and playing video games
What if my escapism provides / provided the motivation to improve my life?
I don't think I'll ever have friends or a loving relationship, so I live it vicariously through fiction.
I've seen this character a few times on /r9k/ already, she seems like she's some sort of shy girl who likes to be withdrawl from the world.
How accurate is my assumption and just what is there to this hotaru girl?
Escapism is a GOAT way to live though.
The characters of a manga I'm reading at any given time are fun, different, and each with their own personalities.
The worlds of the animes I've watched so far are things I'd never get to see IRL.
Whenever I play a game, I get to pretend I'm someone else, doing things that I would never get to do in reality.
Real life, however, is just boring and dull. I'm stuck in this place 24/7, full of people I don't like and aren't likable in the least. Why get a gf when you can have a waifu, tailored to your every needs and dreams ? Why focus in a world of boring, when you could be killing dragons or flying next gen aircraft in vidya ?
no she's an enthusiastic young girl whose family moves from the big city to the countryside and is overwhelmed by small village life
it's called Non Non Biyori and it's a very slow paced and cute slice-of-life show where nothing happens and you feel warm inside
'reality' is just as meaningless as escapism
'reality' is only more fulfilling if you think it is, it's an entirely subjective and malleable ideal, if I think the meaning of life is to watch anime, than it is.
you can make the argument that sexual relations are our fundamental impulse and thus a functional meaning for existence, however, considering we have the ability to reason and that we must figure that there is going to be eventual heat death of the universe, creation of life toward an ultimate destruction is just as pointless as not creating life.
thinking there is any intrinsic value to living life according to your culture's standards is the absurd concept here.
whatever makes you happy is what is most reasonable to do
can you accurately describe her in terms of personality and behaviour?
Not the anons before and I agree with both of them but I am just gonna add something:
She acts very adult-like even though she is the second youngest in the 4 girl main cast group, but it almost feels like she's faking it all as when she comes home in one episode we can see her act all childish around her mother and father. Maybe it's not as much as "faking" as just being used to being "older mentally" because she grew up in Tokyo, I dunno.
Sorry, anon, I am retarded, it's 1 am, it's been a while since I watched the show and I am also ESL.
Oh, here we fucking go.
You want to know why we prefer escapism? Why does the alcoholic prefer the sensation of being drunk over sobriety? Because 'reality' fucking sucks. It fucking sucks and, guess what? We live in an age where we can just say 'fuck the whole damn game' to it all and melt away in front of a screen.
What else? How do you think it feels, to be under the mindset that you have been cast the fuck out and rejected by people time after time after time? That you are seen as lesser, inferior? How do you think that would make you feel? Would you want to continually engage in reality knowing it doesn't give a fuck about you?
Life is shit, and that's a fact. But we don't have to like it.
I just... I don't think reality can make me happy anymore. After years of watching overly-romanticized love stories in anime and exciting adventures in video games, I find myself actively repulsed by real people--by real life.
It's a perpetuating cycle where escapism elicits unrealistic expectations out of people and events, only to be let down by how mundane and banal life is, driving us further into escape. What virtue is there is the day-to-day marathon of adult existence? And, trust me, it is a marathon, and one without the promise of a finish line. Instead, we jump hurdle after hurdle, doing the same thing day after day. Wake up. Eat. Go to work. Drink. Shower. Rinse and repeat. It's not interesting. It's not fulfilling. It's the worst form of grinding in an RPG.
When you have no metric for success, what point is there in even playing the game?
See pic related. Most of us have nothing to look forward to, so we make up things to look forward to so we don't have to face the emptiness of our own lives.
Hotaru also loves (in the 2nd season it was not implie as much) her senpai that is smaller than her in every aspect (mind, body, behaviour), even though she is older than senpai. Hotaru cares for her and looks after her as if she was her mother sometimes. So as the other anons said, your view of her is
unfortunatelynot very accurate.
It's funny you mention dinosaurs. The first time I took a highish dose, 450mg, I put on Disney's Fantasia and peaked right in the middle of pic related. I puked once and felt like I was about to die from heat stroke but it was still beautiful in an ineffable way. I got naked, turned the fan on, and just kind of tried to stay still and focus on breathing/not dying/my favorite movie.
I gained a newfound appreciation for the movie. I hadn't seen it in years, since my childhood really. I couldn't have made a better choice for babbies first real dose. It just blew me away all the pretty colors, the way they gave such life, character, and personality to shit like mushrooms, fish, and even rocks. The most amazing part was just how with such limited technology back then, albeit with a ridiculous budget, they managed to capture such an enormous sense of scale and busyness in the Waltz of the Flowers, and other parts. Even now I watch it and am blown away by how they flowers seem to go on forever, and by how many of the little brooms there are in Sorcerer's Apprentice.
Fantasia 2000 was completely dead, no inspiration, no evocation, not imagination, just shit all the way through, except for the final song by Stravinski which at another had really fucked me and and had me in tears and shit. That animation put me through the gamut of emotions. Sadness, hope, curiosity, fear, betrayal, hopelessness, renewal, jubilance, I start feeling it all over again just writing on it, and this was two years ago I experienced this, but it was on """"oxiracetam""" instead of dxm. I use scare quotes because every batch of it after that failed to make me a useless labile crybaby ruled by emotions. It didn't exactly feel good but I was always ultra spergy so actually experiencing emotion to their fullest was quite overwhelming.
It's easier to just pick the next book/anime/game than to try and fix everything that makes reality shitty.
>Are your lives really that shity that you need to retreat to escapism every day?
Yes. Is that so unbelievable?
is it escapism to convince yourself reality is something besides what it actually is?
because if it is, all religious people are escapists
and therefore 99% humanity is escapist
and therefore chessmate, atheismos
kek look at this normie coming in here trying to stir shit up with his witty know-it-all posts... here is (You)r awaited reply:
I hate summer and my family is always busy in that season, if something happens it would cause too much troubles for them. It was summer 3 years ago too, when I meticulously planned every detail of my accidental death suicide plan, but because of the season I had postponed it for the end of september. Before then I was already depressed and stopped eating to the point that I couldn't defecate anymore. To waste time, in august, I decided to marathon anime series. I had started watching anime in 2012 when I had just became hiki-neet but because I was also playing an MMO back then I didn't watch many series, that summer it really helped me to kill the time, literally watching anime all day from the time I woke up to the time whenever I couldn't keep my eyes open anymore. (1/2)
Watching all those life stories where young boys and girls had fulfilling lives and lived with happiness almost every day, sometimes they were able to overcome the worst scenarios and save the day and other times suffered losing their precious ones, for some reason made me feel alive, when they were happy or sad I was happy and sad as well, probably because I have never experienced any of those things when I was their age. Before I knew it, I had gotten attached to some characters, especially of some visual novels I started reading at the same time, it was already the end of september when I realized that I wanted to keep watching anime, read manga and visual novels and get to know more of those amazing stories, I wanted to know more about those lives and about the characters I loved. This is what kept me going, call it escapism or whatever fits your argument better, believe it or not but there're some people who have no purpose in life, or just lost it if they had one. I still wish to never wake up tomorrow and if guns were legal here in Europe then I'd be long gone from this world, but too bad it's not so convenient here and I hate pain so any non-instant death is out of the question. (2/2)
What are you talking about ? I'm not the first one to make the joke ? Or is it that there was an autist who kept trying to make waifufaggotry sound like a state of mind, like, for real ?
Because that was legitimally a joke, and in any case, you're probably looking for someone else.
How long until we can simulate intimacy with another human? Their breath, their heartbeat, their warmth, the smoothness of their skin on yours...
How long until we can simulate love? Real love, not just a sexbot program that says pre-recorded lines. Will it be possible before we die? I'm ready to give up.
My 4year old cat died suddenly last night in his sleep from an aneurysm
reality fucking sucks
In any case, there can still be parallel, because having a waifu really clears up the mind. Just makes me feel nicer, ya know.
Women can't love you back now, so you're better off if you look elsewhere for it. Intimacy is easy. I was talking with one of those ASMR fags and found out he also liked erotic hypnosis and other weird shit. I was kind of shitting on him until he mentioned audio of girls sleeping. Shit was the bomb and I play it with my white noise thunderstorm sounds everynight. I love hearing her breath. I wish I still had the link or I'd share it now.
Why do you think I sleep 12 hours a day, and the remaining 12 hours awake I find a way to be somewhere else either by being drunk, videogames, watch tv, or shitposting?
I understand. I think there are /some/ similarities but they are distinct and ultimately quite different. Who is your waifu, out of curiosity?
Your lack of ability to see perspective makes you a shitty human being. The fact that you couldn't see why a bunch of 20+ vigrins would be into escapism means you're just retarded or a sociopath or trolling.
original comment? wtf
Reality hasn't made Midna real, but I will. I already hear her voice, so I will collect more files to make her whole.
I excaped for a week, I flat out gave all of my electronic devices to someone to safeguard while I pieces my life back together. It worked wonders, after a few days I was so happy, I was free. But as soon as I got comfortable in my life again I just sunk back to my usual habits, and now I feel terrible again. Feels bad man
She's not a furry, she's part of a race called Twili, which are more like cursed elves if anything.
My waifu ? Who knows.
I don't save up many images though, but here's what I've got.
Escapism is not the best way to live. It's just most people are born to have shitty lives, and escapism can ameliorate that. Not everyone gets to write a meaningful autobiography or memoir full of fruitful endeavors and interesting anecdotes.
>considering we have the ability to reason
you could've stopped here, no need to go full fedora. you can end any argument involving impulses and nature with human's ability to reason
I'm lonely. I'm so lonely.
When I watch escape into fiction, I can pretend like I have friends or like I'm in love.
this happened to me last wekk, everything was going okay. I was busy all day so no internet, training at the gym and swimming cause I have a thing coming up, and sleeping early at night. then one night after getting home from class I sit at the pc chair and only get out at 5am.
I think it's a brilliant story with some very minor flaws. It's definitely worth checking out if it interests you.
Why do you argue with them then? Just admit they are right.
Alright, I guess I have one more mango to add into my list of 24 backlogged manga. Do you mostly watch or do your read ? I guess that's the problem of reading, sometimes you find another interesting story and leave the other one unfinished, thus making a mess.
Reality is the most mundane scam of all. True patricians understand the value of escapism. Those with vivid enough imaginations shall break free from the shackles of this absurdly boring and demented prison that we deem worthy enough to be referred as "society". Why play the game at all when the game is so blatantly rigged? We all take our chances with the hand that we are dealt. Some humans just choose to throw away the cards and go exploring elsewhere. That is; retreat into the infinite confines of their own mind for instance.
My dream is only possible through escapism. The world is so obsessed with money and easy, brown targets, they've forgotten all about space. What can I even do? Hope the next generation cares enough about space to become rocket scientists and shit?
Why do people act like Chad and Stacy don't use parties and drinking and sex as a form of escapism? It's all relative I guess.
I waste my time away on anime and manga day in and day out cuz it makes me feel a little less numb. With the self-inserting nature of anime and manga I can go on adventures, have a harem of cute girls, have a beautiful romance, or be a demon king working at fucking McDonald's.
It's the same thing with normies. They fill their lives with netflix, sex, parties, and eventually shitty jobs. It's because it makes them feel like they accomplished something. Don't think that these things actually constitute a "fulfilling life".
In fantasy it's always exactly how you want it to be. Life can't come along and fuck your shit like it usually does.. In fantasy everything is perfect, blissful, immortal even.
Fantasy can only ever be for a moment. There's always an after. We always wake up and realize nothing is going to be quite exactly how we want it. Why try when you can just steal another perfect moment..when you can forget everything for just a little while.