Calling all aspergers itt. Ive been curious, when you start speaking about something, how come you can't get yourself to stop? I want to personally hear what you talk about as well.
I am able to stop... sometimes... but you get me on something I know /too/ much about and I will never shut up.
Years of knowing what is socially right and wrong have made me more conscious about what I am talking about. However, I can never lead a conversation that isn't about what I like or what I am doing or how I am doing or who I am interested in is doing. Asperger's is selfishness to the max and then some. I just go with the flow.
Basically, say that you start to talk to someone, and you get excited about it, so you want to keep talking about it. Your brain probably goes through a checking process as you talk:
>Do I still have more to say? If so, go to next step.
>Does it look like they're still interested? If so, go to next step. If not, stop talking/change topic.
>Does it look like they want to say anything? If not, go to next step. If so, stop talking/let them talk.
>Do they look confused? If not, go to next step. If so, ask them if you can explain any better.
>Is your point at all relevant to the conversation as you keep talking? If so, go to next step. If not, stop talking/change the topic/get back to something relevant
>If you get to here, go back to the first step.
The aspergers process goes more like this:
>Do I still have more to say? If so, go to next step.
>Is my point at all relevant? If not, make it relevant by talking more. If so, keep talking.
>Is someone talking over me? If so, either shut up or talk louder.
The main difference that goes on in that last step is that someone with aspergers will generally react emotionally to being interrupted; they don't process it in the way that those w/o aspergers do. So while some will become quiet, not knowing when people will interrupt them (or why) others will simply keep talking no matter what.
Generally though, most aspies - by the time they hit 30 or so - figure out how to implement the top non-aspie set of rules.
Why are you suddenly getting defensive about this? Do you feel insecure or something
When you say react emotionally, you mean they getting offended when theyre being interrupted?
>When you say react emotionally, you mean they getting offended when theyre being interrupted?
Well, offended or confused. Some aren't bothered by it at all and consider that interruption irrelevant, but those are the ones who have never been confronted in a serious manner; generally, for an aspie to learn these rules, they have to be told, at least several times usually, in a blunt and direct manner, that they need to be doing these things. Just telling them to STFU because it is not their place to be talking, doesn't help them at all; it's like trying to teach someone how to ride a bike by telling them they should just fucking walk to work.
and btw I am not an aspie myself (though I am sometimes socially derp because of other brain maladies) I just grew up with a social worker for a mom, so I saw a lot of aspies and learned how to deal w/them from her, and my two best friends in high school were both aspies, so I figured out real quick how to deal with them.
reeee if you ask me anything about cars i'll never stop reeeeeeeee
I can also do the same with music I've overcome my autism I'm on an ultimate normie cruise but when provided the chance I will completely sperg out.
>just say "stop talking"?
Pretty much. Just remember that they might not know WHY they should stop talking, and that might mean, to them, that it might not be socially correct for YOU to interrupt THEM. It helps to reiterate what exactly it is they're doing wrong.
Obviously, this might imply that you need to think a little harder than you usually do about what makes talking in group conversations socially OK - that is, what the rules are. This is 99% of the time a contextual thing, so they will have to be told these sorts of things a LOT throughout their lives. It might be a question of you not knowing wtf they're talking about, or a case of you not caring, or a situation in which they are simply being annoying. Or one in which you really have to talk about something else, and they won't let up.
In each of those cases, you might have to interrupt and tell them "hey, I really don't know what you're talking about, but I do not want to hear more" or "hey I'm sorry, but I honestly don't care and you are talking too much; please stop" or "hey, stop for a second: You're overriding everything and others are trying to talk; it is their turn now" or "hey, sorry about this, but <person> and I (or <person> and <other person>) need to talk about this, please let us get back to it"
Things like that. It really does require a double-take of social norms that you have probably never thought about,
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>literally me, except I will explain in graphic fucking detail for about 4-5 hours
Sometimes assholes will pull this >>26384203 on socially apt people, and it is legit in those cases to become offended. However, even those without aspergers become nervous before they become offended; they double-check their working memory to see why the hell someone stepped on their actions so bluntly. Aspies may get offended, but it is up to you to be like "hey, I really mean no offense here" before bringing the conversation back on topic/telling them to politely fuck off.
Sometimes there will be situations where an aspie will join a conversation they were not invited to, and you don't have time to try and incorporate them, nor do you want to be polite about it: In those cases, you can just tell them, "go away." They might ask why, and if they do, don't be afraid to tell them exactly why.
Just remember that:
>1. You don't have to be the one to give them constructive advice
>2. They will not get it unless you are blunt
>3. They will be more receptive if you put at least some modicum of effort into being polite.
Social norms tend to correlate politeness with vagueness. If the meaning of a phrase is "you are the fucking worst you piece of shit" but could ALSO be interpreted as "well sir, actually, I am not the biggest fan of this thing you did, but I will let it pass for now" that can actually be a POLITE THING. It is half-polite and potentially not very NICE, but it is technically POLITE, because it's VAGUE as to its true meaning.
To an aspie, you can completely avoid STANDARD politeness in favor of simply being blunt - but polite. ie, instead of "goddamnit you piece of shit you broke my xbox controller" say "dude, you just broke my xbox controller, are you going to replace that?" the fundamental difference being in that the second statement, you made sure they knew that they were responsible for what they broke; they might miss it in the first case, instead thinking "WHOA YEAH I DID BUT WHY ARE YOU BEING SO MEAN."
It's a fine line for sure.
I'll answer one more question if you have one but then I need to get to bed
wow that was much darker than the thumbnail appeared, ha. Have some random bullshit.
Seriously no one is going to add me? Are all of you so afraid of how embarrassing you are going to be? No one is going to fucking listen except me. The fuck?
Some aspie just add my email on skype and let me hear you talk REEEEEEEEE
Guys I think this is all a ruse; this guy is either a real aspie or he's a devilish anon imitating how aspies act
this is some metaposting; it's come full circle
you just sort of learn not to ever talk about yourself, or the shit that you like. the 2.5 friends I do have I make the conversation all about them.
Yeah you do have fucking aspergers I FUCKING KNEW IT
Go to a doctor you fucking weirdo. They have tests and shit but from every post you've made in this thread, you're a definitive aspie. Get help
Neurosis is a class of mental disorders including but not limited to OCD, Impulse control disorder, hysteria or anxiety.
In general it includes the lack of ability to adapt to changes in basic patterns of life.
It implies the lack of development and meaningful personality.
It never extends to delusion or hallucination.
It expresses itself in aggression, irritability and other cognitive dissociation
OP is an aspie who is obsessed with aspies. He'll talk non-stop for hours about how they talk non-stop for hours
I was going to uni and studying English. But I bailed on a uni exam today because neurosis was too stronk.
I will fail my course for not taking the exam and can either start over or drop out and find a job. I have the highest school degree available in my country, luckily, so finding a 9-5 will be easy.
Still living with parents.
I really like this image, have a piece of shit
Nothing much to say about it. I am compulsively dissatisfied and overly thoughtful of ideas and things. I don't need repetition as much as some might think.
Minor example, but I bought a burger from McDonald's that I'll carry around with me for the day.
Yeah. First time my OCD has been this strong to be honest. It was mild before. But today it acted up. I couldn't press the handle to the door handle to the lecture hall. And because I was too late nobody was around to open it.
First time this happened.
I wish I knew. Up until now it was only minor things such as cleaning my fork for a bit before I eat, or not flipping the page of a book.
Things I could ignore, things that didn't interrupt my life.
The compulsion comes, and if I can't fulfill it I usually get tics or have minor autistic fits.
I left because I couldn't open the door. Like, I didn't want to touch it. Not at all. I would have rather cut off a finger than to open that door. I was late so everyone was already inside and the door was closed. I would have asked but I was sweating and being a general spastic so I just left.
No, I have problems once I finish things though. I usually redo things a lot. Mostly writing. I take some time to reply to people because I redo messages over and over before finally sending them.
I don't write anything by hand anymore because it has become a bother when I have to redo handwriting. I only use computers anymore because it's so much easier.
Same here except you need to ask me about Video games, manga/anime, or words. Yes, literal words. I'll start going off about their definitions, synonyms, parts of speech, antonyms, use them in sentences, use them in essays, use them in poems, etc
Wouldnt that cause some dangerous feedback loop that can lead to much worse things that fedoras and bronies?
My fingers smell like piss btw.
I can stop myself and do.
Not everyone with aspergers is the same, I learned how to act around people by watching and sometimes my very good friends would point things out and teach me.
My biggest problem now is bringing math into completely unrelated subjects, idk why but when I get nervous I bring up math it's fucking horrible.