I don't usually like calling things 'memes', but I think the explosion of popularity in meditation qualifies it as one. Meditation is literally just sitting down and not consciously thinking. It isn't some wonder drug, it won't make you smarter, it won't make you 7'11" with a 12 inch dick. It's what you do when you look out the window on a rainy day. It's that 'spaced out' feeling when you're waiting for your coffee to brew. It's not bad, I enjoy the relaxation and calmness it provides but I mean, I've seen people quite seriously recommend it for depression. I don't understand how that would work. Then again I'm not a monk so what the fuck do I know.
>>26368294 >you watch porn? you're getting off watching other people bone. I frequently stop watching porn for a while and either write erotica or just imagine stuff and get off to that and honestly, I don't see the difference, it's just alternate sources of roughly the same thing, how is watching porn objectively worse for you than just dreaming it up in your head instead?
>you play videogames? your character is the one honing skills, you're just providing the inputs and guiding them along the rails of their story. Perfectly true, but whether or not it provides "real enjoyment" is completely subjective.
>imagine sitting in front of your computer, while it's off, and just tapping your keyboard and mouse, for four hours. this is what you, the person, are doing. "Imagine sitting with a book, with blank pages and just every minute or two you flip the pages. This is what you, the person, are doing."
"Imagine sitting down and writing, with a pen that's empty, just scraping the pen across the page and every so often turning a page. This is what you, the person, are doing."
You can take any activity involving information and very quickly make it sound very stupid. Just because the things you're doing involve the creation/transfer of information you can't obviously see (either in the computer or in your brain) doesn't mean you're not doing anything.
Funny things. I come here now after some time to share my experience but there was already thread about it. When I was 14 like anyone else I looked for everything what I can do with my life. I found some book about zen-buddhism. Read it, try to practice and actually sitting zazen to my 17. But high school is high school and I start going on shows, start drinking alot, start smoking, try some drugs, have a girl and completely forget about it. After some time doing this I found myself deeply dont satisfied with my life. Dont have a girl anymore, just drink with my friends ( I dont meet them anywhere else than a pub ). So that was time when my depression come and when I start beeing here on /r9k/. After few years of it I read that book again, read it more, stop reading and start sitting again. And keep at it. Now Im the same person like before, get angry, get sick, get bored, still the same friends but I got something else, that special look on it. See a life more like it is than like i thing it is. With this technique what zen provide my life is still the same and thats the magic in it. I dont thing Im getting somewhere, or anywhere. I dont want to reach anything in this technique just keep it and save it for any time Im gonna need it. There is nothing magical or special on zen, on some point of view is the most boring thing on the world give it try anon, you are already bored anyway
Ever since I started meditating back in the day when I got interested in Buddhist practices, I've been developing this inner calm, and it's getting stronger. It's at the bottom of my very self, and my life has become better because of it. It literally prevents me from being depressed.
Things like criticism, disease, old age, death, rejection, stagnation.. It covers all of it. So my advice for letting go of habits is to build this inner sense of calm and direction. For me, I used to fap and binge eat to cope with life's hardships. Now I can rely on myself. I could eat or fap, but accesing that inner calm is literally more efficient. All I need is 10 minutes of sitting down and I am at peace again.
They may shit in the streets, but they are generally happy people who dont strive for much outside of the basic necessities and being with their family and friends
Compare that to the average american living in a nice coushy home on a nice coushy couch watching HD television drugged to their eyeballs on painkillers and antidepressants because they are so fucking miserable
>>26368662 >You can take any activity involving information and very quickly make it sound very stupid.
this is how i see it for myself
if i learn nothing don't let it change my life, yes, that is exactly what i'm doing. i enjoy the increased hand-eye coordination provided to me by videogames but i think my life would be much better if i had focused on creating music and exercising instead.
the difference between the book and the videogame is that the videogame is a controlled, narrow experience, built around bursts of dopamine or accomplishment. books aren't like that at all. nothing's in control. there are stories of betrayal, addiction, loneliness, sorrow, tragedies, hypocrisies of behavior.
you take a lesson or an interesting piece of information out of it. at least one. and you apply it to your life, or someone elses life. or you have a mythology in your life now, something that doesn't normally exist, people you can relate to, even if they're imaginary or dead, suddenly you have standards to live up to, you don't want to feel hopeless.
for example, i keep thinking of catch-22 and the guy in the hospital, spending all his time staring up at the ceiling being bored because he hates being bored, and when he hates being bored time slows down, so in a way he's living longer. i think the whole book's a very buddhist experience, in a way. i haven't even mentioned non-fiction.
of course, you can forget the information. you can remember it but not apply it effectively. in that case, at least you're on your way to being able to speed read. buddhists think this is all bologna, wisdom isn't in books but in your head.
>>26369166 >>26368788 this was the only reason i came into this thread tbqh family (to be quite honest family(slang term referring to friends who you consider as close as family(not that i am close to my family, or that they even fuck with(slang term for "associate with", meant as a positive expression, ie: i fuck with you my homie(slang for friend)) me)))
on a related note: i used to talk about meditation like it was a miracle drug, but it really is a meme. after you try all this shit and stupidly tell your friends you discovered "the answer" but remain the same loser sperg with a shit life year after year, you give up on all this stuff. on the bright side, at least you're not some faggot posting yoga pictures on normiebook or telling people you opened your third eye through a new form of tantric fuckhead bullshit
I could never be buddhist. Ultimately I see it as a betrayal of western culture to become buddhist. The only people who look good in buddhist monk robes are really dark burnt-looking thai guys. Finally, buddhist literature is not very good. I'll take a hindu text over a buddhist one any day.
>>26367313 Buddhist here, and also former video game/weed/alcohol/cigarette addict.
>>26368294 this guy know what's up and I don't have much to add really. With all of those things you're sacrificing long-term happiness for instant gratification. With addiction, between the time that you're jerking off or playing video games or whatever and between the next time that you're doing those things, you're absolutely miserable and only thinking about doing those things.
Not that you should throw your computer in the ocean and move to a shack in the woods or a cave or anything. There's nothing wrong with occasionally whacking off and playing Mario Kart 128 or whatever, just as long as you learn to live without them.
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