Are uncircumcised penises the male equivalent of a roastie? I mean excess skin on a vagina is considered unattractive and certainly the same could be said of a penis. The only difference is that most women aren't forced to get theirs removed. Why are women exempt from this process if everyone hates both equally?
>keeps the glans moist and protects it from foreign objects
then why don't animals have them? Most animals penises simply retract into the body and there's no discernible point to cut even if you did want to circumcise something like a dog or cat. Foreskin is essentially an evolutionary dead end like the appendix or wisdom teeth.
Anatomically the scrotum is the male analog. It even has a crease on most men on the underside.
but we're all mammals. why would certain mammals, with even larger penis to body size ratios have complete coverage while ours just kind of hangs out with a bit of extra skin covering it? Especially since people wear clothes? why wouldn't it either A: retract completely or B: dissolve? It's obviously an oversight in the grand scheme.
>and certainly the same could be said of a penis
Foreskin is not excess skin. Lacking it means lacking a part of your body. Its a natural part of the human body and theres no reason to cut it away except jewery.
It's not completely useless but it's not necessary for the majority of people. just like the foreskin. extra protection is nice, yeah but does it serve a purpose outside of very specific situations?
>Its a natural part of the human body and theres no reason to cut it away except jewery.
so is excess labia skin and women go through the same thing with female genital mutilation in africa. Doctors in America circumcise for safety. It's safe to say that women who go through that lose as many nerve endings as in circumcision (though not enough to effect the pleasure of sex) FGM in Africa is a practice of dominance over the female population.
They are. Its sheer luck of the draw what a vagina looks like. Obviously roasties are less likely to reproduce though so we'll eventually weed them all out.
All men will always be born with a foreskin though thank god. Foreskins are very important and special and retract out of the way during sex.
who /frenulumbreve/ here?
It isn't as severe as pic related, but I can pull my foreskin just below my head, anything more would break it. Gotta get half mutilated so my frenulum doesn't break and/or bleed
>tfw you will never have balls that are as smooth as eggs
How fucking retarded are you? We didn't evolve clothes, our dicks can't retract into us, and evolution takes time. We can't just say "oh I don't need this body part, I'll just naturally get rid of it next generation!" Read a fucking book, damn.
>tfw nobody has ever checked your dubs before
feels good robot thanks
>We didn't evolve clothes
>I'll just naturally get rid of it next generation
learned habits are a part of evolution. Look at the Galapagos Islands. In as little as 200 hundred years a completely new species could appear due to drastic change to the environment.
Why are you getting offended? I'm not purposely insulting your or anyone else's foreskin. I'm just saying that it's not necessary. I like my wisdom teeth but I've never chewed food with them and I wouldn't be offended if someone suggested I get them taken care of before they get out of hand. No need to get mad. it's just an observation.
Got your dick cut by some random normie
Now you need moisturizer to jerk your dick and it doesn't even feel as good as uncircumsized.
Whats it like getting cucked by a procedure that was endorsed by the guy who made your cornflakes?
I don't think you know how evolution works. Just because we don't need it doesn't mean it would just disappear. Obviously in the past those who had foreskin were more likely to reproduce but hell foreskin is probably something that's been their since our ancestors started walking on two feet. It obviously been working enough to last up to us. There might have been people without foreskin but something happened that this trait never got passed on.
You can argue its functions today but back then it obviously served an essential purpose, protecting one of the most sensitive parts of our bodies much like eyelids in a time clothing was not used. We won't be seeing foreskin disappear from the gene pool anytime soon thanks to that.
>Circumcision linked with sexual difficulties
>Circumcision decreases sexual pleasure
>Circumcision decreases efficiency of nerve response in the glans of the penis
>Circumcision linked to pain, trauma, and psychosexual sequelae
>Circumcision results in significant loss of erogenous tissue
>Neonatal circumcision linked to pain and trauma
>Circumcision linked to psychological trauma
>Circumcision may lead to abnormal brain development and subsequent deviations in behavior
Silly bitch, acting like that when you produce smegma too if you don't wash.
> Just because we don't need it doesn't mean it would just disappear
the fact is that no one really knows the inner-workings of evolution because each evolution is a unique situation. I don't claim to know exactly when we stopped needing them.
>You can argue its functions today but back then it obviously served an essential purpose, protecting one of the most sensitive parts of our bodies much like eyelids in a time clothing was not used. We won't be seeing foreskin disappear from the gene pool anytime soon thanks to that.
I agree but I'm not arguing for the removal or phasing out of foreskin. I'm just saying that I don't see the point of praising it when what is essentially the female equivalent is hated.
Reminder that if you have phimosis, you can get a preputial plasty if it's that bad. Fucking Americans/American doctors are so shit when it comes to this stuff that they are the ones who cause a lot of it from trying to prematurely pull the skin back when it's still fused with the head, causing tearing and scar tissue making it tighter.
The fact that phimosis happens is proof that foreskin is a dead end.
>your penis is so fucked up that you'll have to mutilate it over months and even years of time to get it to function properly.
Why do that when you can get it taken care of by a proffesional
>they'll fuck it up
how about you find a doctor that isn't shit at his job. What, you're not gonna go in for heart surgery because you "don't trust the jews"? seriously?
Daily reminder if you whipped out your erect uncut penis to American women, they wouldn't turn you down. Due to American education, they think that uncut penises are phimosis penises, hence why they "prefer" cut.
>I'm just saying that I don't see the point of praising it when what is essentially the female equivalent is hated.
No female was ever born with a larger inner labia than their outer labia. In some cases the inner labia will grow naturally, but in most cases its growth is in conjunction with wear over time. This wear is linked to sexual intercourse.
>This wear is linked to sexual intercourse.
that's a meme perpetuated by virgins. Vagina shape is determined by genetics. Labia can grow over time but intercourse isn't a driving factor in labia size.
Are you dense? I am saying that the parents due to a lack of education will try to pull the foreskin back prematurely, as in when they are children because they believe it should be cleaned underneath, even though at this point it nis fused. Combine that with American doctors who think that phimosis can occur when they are an infant creates trouble.
When you come close to puberty, that is when you are able to pull it back. It isn't a dead end, circumcision is a dead end that causes way more issues than phimsosis ever would. A preputial plasty is a 15 minute operation that keeps the integrity of the foreskin, a circumcision completely removes the most sensitive part of the penis.
>they believe it should be cleaned underneath
and it should. I'm not promoting ruining your kids foreskin but you should definitely be through in cleaning it for them if you do that kind of thing after a certain age.
>circumcision is a dead end that causes way more issues than phimsosis ever would
I've never heard of any problems or people with problems with circumcision other than botched operations altogether in which case I refer you back to my first point of finding a doctor that's not incompetent.
>A preputial plasty is a 15 minute operation that keeps the integrity of the foreskin
why would I need to have an entire operation to do something that could have been done for free? why not just nip the entire problem in the butt?
So you're telling me the vagina doesn't wear down from constant use? It just stays how it naturally is supposed to be regardless of mileage? The labia doesn't stretch, grow darker, and the vaginal opening stays as tight as ever?
>and it should.
No shit, but there is a point where I'll say again, it is fused and should not be pulled back. Pulling it back prematurely causes tearing, which creates scar tissue.
>I've never heard of any problems or people with problems with circumcision
Also, you don't have to be an incompetent doctor to botch a surgery. A better solution is to stop cutting off skin that is needed in the first place. The worst case scenario for a foreskin is having phimosis, the worst case scenario for having yourself circumcised is losing your cock.
>why not just nip the entire problem in the butt?
The foreskin is not the issue, it is the way it is handled. How do you not get this?
I didn't say any of that. I said labia doesn't stretch due to intercourse, at least not by a noticeable amount. The amount of sex needed to actually "wear out" a vagina would take decades. these teen girls with "roast beef curtains" would have to have been having sex since before they were born. the way your vagina looks is luck of the draw and parents genetics. just like some guys get phimosis and some don't. hence the comparison to foreskin.
> and the vaginal opening stays as tight as ever
actually if you have sex sparingly and do kegals you can keep your vagina as tight if not tighter than when you were a virgin. The vagina isn't just an opening. It's muscles and skin. it's its own system. it even cleans itself. You'd know this if you weren't a virgin
>The foreskin is not the issue, it is the way it is handled. How do you not get this?
from what you're saying anyone with a foreskin who wants to see what their penis looks like before they hit puberty will ruin it completely. How is the foreskin not the problem?
Since circumcision is an unecessary procedure unless its extreme cases which can be taken care of later in life, it should be illegal to circumcise a child.
Im sure all those parents that lost their toddlers due to complications and bleeding from circumcision would agree by now.
Its pointless and uncivilised.
Because of puritanism and the fervor around early America for a strong work ethic to build up the country.
Who would have guessed their descendents would eventually just give it all away to mexicans and other assorted browns?
>kike doctor charges my parents to steal my foreskin
>kike doctor makes even more money selling stolen foreskin to cosmetics companies
>spend even more money trying to regrow the stolen foreskin
You LITERALLY cannot make this shit up.
Americans will LITERALLY defend this.
We're talking about children here man, they wouldn't understand the concept of pulling it back at that stage, even if they attempt prematurely they would soon know that it cannot be done.
So no, it's not an issue as they are children who do not need to be sexually active yet.
>Also, you don't have to be an incompetent doctor to botch a surgery.
You can be the best doctor in the world and an infection can still happen, too.
Also this and full agreement; if it's illegal to "cut" girls then why the double standard?
Just imagine the "wait, what? our baby is dead?" mindfuck the parents get to experience from choosing to have an unnecessary proceedure performed.
Parents of the year award goes to...
The parents with the dead baby!
*sigh* roasties are a true turnoff
now I wouldn't leave one IF it were bright pink like the pretty innies can be AND she had good face/body.....
troof, or muricunts... because our mothers are morons and feminists.
it isn't... it's just really sad genetics/aesthetically less pleasant.... but nothing to do with amount of sex lol
this is a myth... roasties are determined by puberty desu.
it's a meme
is the rest of you qt femanon
i'm really curious what the robot girls in this place look like
like i couldn't/woudln't shame/run away from all but the most EXCESSIVE of REALLY hairy vulva labia skins you know....
well goddamn ;x
I hate psychiatry
but they are correct
don't trust pubmed due to govt's bias to psychiatry/behavior control/data skewing either but i still use them.
now if they'll just admit psychiatry destroys human sexuality and ruins people for life too. :(
but yeah circ is the devil.
wtf ... you'd need to literally not shower for god knows how long... or clean yourself... ever... I'm not sure how you even GET smegma.. :x
or where that name came from for that matter.
I'm a girl and I think that both "roasties" and uncut cocks look the best, as long as they don't have a freakish amount of skin.
And btw, I'm an innie myself, so don't give me crap for my preferences.
Foreskin it's natural and good for male. Nice try jew bankster faggot.
Circumcised for the ladies.