tonight, let all the 35 and older khv's vent, rage, and lament in this thread.
I'm 37 and have never even held a hand.
negs: manlet, not white, no 'game', skinnyfat
pros: smart (stem from public ivy), make six figures, will inherit a business that will free me and my children from wage slavery
I have nothing but contempt for women. I truly believe in everything 'red pill'. I hate my genetic lottery of height and facial aesthetic (average face) but will appreciate my parent's wealth. I've never been able to attract a woman, so I will end up in loveless 'settling' for someone I will be matched with.
I have nothing but contempt for society. Men taller/more alpha than me make it a point to shit on me when women are around, try to be my friend so I'll help them with work shit when it's just us. Our society is arranged around beauty, forget about race/wealth/connections.
degeneracy abounds, it's like shaking a steak in front of a dog. I am that dog. I'm the lowest of the low, women don't even consider me human, men just want to use me.
worldly desires lost their appeal long ago. I don't even masturbate regularly now, once a month just to 'work the pipes'. Don't even know what I'll do with the money, probably just sit at home and watch movies/tv.
I'm not 35, but 31 here. I make 6 figures, and the money has done absolutely nothing to get me a woman. still a KV, nothing can fix a 4 inch dick and the lack of confidence that it causes.
>pros: smart (stem from public ivy), make six figures, will inherit a business that will free me and my children from wage slavery
>KHV at 37
Forget that, why would you even WANT to have children if you've got a STEM degree from an ivy, are making lots of money, and will inherit a business?
Just go fuck some hookers in Germany or something OP. The majority of us would kill to have your life.
Damn. It's crazy because I always use to look down the road and thought it would get better, but I'm genuinely afraid now. Why don't we all just band together and start a large corporation like Alpha bet that slowly takes over and corners every market? I don't have anything better to do. Work and side projects are all I have.
36 years old.
I won't enumerate my positive and negative attributes. I am 36 years old and haven't had so much as a date in my life. For all intents and purposes, I have no positive attributes. By definition, I am unwanted in a way few other men will ever be.
Thank whatever gods there are for liquor.
yep money means nothing, especially if you don't have the personality that would flaunt it with public demonstrations of wealth (bottle service, designer clothes, etc.).
because I'm not a degenerate. I think the only real value I will contribute is to raise children who might make a substantial contribution to society, and if not, like me, will try to continue that cycle until someone in our gene pool does.
I'll be the first to acknowledge that my schooling is b+. Top tier being the schools you mention, a minus being the lesser ivies and some outier non ivies, maybe mine but possibly not.
THAT sounds like suffering.
I remember talking to you a couple of years back. Alot of us are scary like that.
You weren't sure what was holding you back from getting women then, but I can tell you: It's not your attitude. You were honestly trying and I said alot of the very things that have been.
I can see the wingman advice isnt working either.
It really IS genetics sometimes anon, Other things play a factor like attitude and personality, as you know. But sometimes.
It's like you said, you're going to practically have to BUY a wife. Well so what? you won't be the first.
You may not love her, but you'll love your kids, if you raise them right.
Reconnect with some of your worldly desires. They'll bring some color and heat into your life.
it doesn't get better. In fact it gets worse. At least in college/university, you have others around who are willing to be friends, some women may even appreciate your pseudo intellectual merits, but once you leave education, it returns to the raw jungle mentality of high school.
frankly, the same reasons that keep women at arm's length will keep investor's at arm's length. Everyone hates robots (I don't want to call me/us betas, we are omegas). You think zuck or gates aren't fucking alpha nerds? wake up.
>pros: smart (stem from public ivy), make six figures
am I supposed to feel sorry for this fag?
small dick anon here, I'm an actuary for the government. I sit a desk for 8 hours a day and shitpost on my phone, actual work is rare. its a numbing existence and I hate it, but the pay is good and benefits are great so I keep doing it. nothing would make me happy anyhow, so I might as well be miserable at an easy job.
>because I'm not a degenerate. I think the only real value I will contribute is to raise children who might make a substantial contribution to society, and if not, like me, will try to continue that cycle until someone in our gene pool does.
>muh contribution to society
>muh gene pool
That's really pathetic and shockingly childish desu. Sounds to me like your autism is what's keeping you from finding a wife.
I write software. Six figures means nothing these days in some regard. It's a starting salary for tech jobs in the bay area.
granted, homes are over 1 million, but still.
also, I almost own my own 1.4m house. It impresses no one, because no one visits me, certainly not women.
maybe I have the assburgers, maybe I'm autistic, I don't know, but I do know that a 'childish' as it may sound, the only objective point of life is to reproduce. In between, you can be as degenerate as you want, whatever it's not for me, I don't even drink or smoke.
frankly, my ideal life would have involved a few surrogate pregnancies so that I could have children from the best genes money could buy, I think harvard grad, six foot tall women can charge 100k.
but my parents loathe the idea. My dreams were dashed.
I'm a good, obedient son. They're the only reason I still live.
my brother is an actuary, hes uglier than me but hes had a lot of gfs, hes probably having sex right now while i waste away with my vcard. maybe you're not trying at all, did you try online dating?
See how much they screech and whine once they have a grandson or daughter in their arms.
You got that cash son, buy a surrogate pregnancy. Maybe the purpose of life isn't solely biological imperative, but it would fill a much needed void in your life, would it not.
If some stupid whore can manage it.
You can manage it.
yeah, I've tried it all. had a few gfs but none of them would ever kiss me or have sex. tried online, went to meet the girl, she wouldn't even touch me. I'm not terribly ugly, but I am overweight, and all the rejection makes it hard to put in the effort to lose it. plus, the small dick, that even if I wasn't overweight, would be too small to be pleasurable.
the last straw was after the online relationship, I had a real one where the girl told me she loved me, but turned out she was just using me for a free place to stay. she moved out and hasn't spoken to me in 2 years. after that, I've just kept to myself because I don't see any point now.
The point of life is to find as much happiness as you can.
Don't fuck up the time you have left, anon.
that's pretty much what's happening.
all the robots are now probably echoing >>26354926
but have you ever considered a life/future with someone who married you because you have money/the ability to get them a usa citizenship?
is there any idea that will destroy your soul quicker? other than 'facial aesthetics determine your success in life', I can't think of many.
like >>26354693 says, I'll love my kids, and maybe through biology/psychology, I'll pair bond with my mail order bride, but will it ever come close to the feeling that a woman actually chose you?
there's an old copypasta, men are the true romantics, women are the superficial ones. It has always resonated.
Just acknowledging your existence over here. What do you do for a living? While all the other anons ride the rich anons dicks... (just goes to show that money IS helping them)
I might have been that desperate 5 years ago but not now, even though this is just bait.
yeah for a few months. she went from "oh I love you anon, I'll be your live in girlfriend" to "I can pretend to be your gf in front of people" to "you're such a good friend letting me stay here anon". I should have kicked her to the curb when she reneged on wanting to be in a relationship.
in an objective way it does. People are literally being priced out of the bay area. It's sort of like being near the top of the peak. Is 90% percentile no longer good enough for women? Was it ever?
>That's really pathetic and shockingly childish desu.
Lol just because you whites are killing yourselves with anti-natalism philosophy doesn't making wanting to pass on your genes "childish".
the words are written in every biology textbook, and they came out of my nobel prize winning biology professor's mouth. Sure, those don't make it a 'truth', but that's a pretty good pedigree.
>want to post
>thread quickly turned into one topic only
I'm not in my 30s yet but I have always gotten along with older people throughout my entire life far far more than younger people or my peers, and two of my closest friends now are ~20 years older than I am.
So you acknowledge that your body is gross and that you don't bother putting in the effort to be attractive or even to pursue women, yet you sit here and whine. You dug your own grave.
The 36 year old speaking.
Actually, I'm not surprised in the least by the fascination with the relatively wealthy fellow who shares the less than enviable mantle of wizard with some of we less prosperous examples of that sad race.
One of the myths of this board, one that obsesses some of the younger virgins, is that women are drawn to money in such a way that, once one gets older, all that success can be parlayed into sexual experiences.
Well, although there might be some basis for that belief, it's overstated. Our successful wizard has sort of displayed that, and that's fascinating and probably very, very unsettling.
For a miserable old cynic (well, I prefer "realist", but who cares what a wizard prefers) as myself, this is not surprise. For the younger posters, it's probably pretty jarring.
I am myself a humble civil servant who earns enough to keep himself drunk on liquor that's cheap enough to buy frequently and good enough to not get hung over on. So, not successful by any sane metric. I have stories, of course, but not ones relating to financial success. My stories tend toward the ugly (much like the story-teller, I suppose). Things like involuntary hospitalizations resulting from violent and sexual impulses, nasty sexual nightmares, the curious link between alcoholism/substance abuse and the wizard life.
Suffice it to say, I'm not earning six figures.
parents are here. The business is here. This is home. I've lived elsewhere when I was younger, made no difference.
I don't care where someone is from. I've talked with women literally on the otherside of the world and am in a mailorder bride situation.
I get no response from women online or irl. I wrote a tinder bot that would right swipe for me before they started throttling 'likes', I probably right swiped 200k women. I had a few matches that never wrote back.
What are your standards in a woman?
Minimum looks/weight/sex appeal/age requirements? Don't say "None", that's a lie.
I'm only 23, but men younger than me scare me. Seems like every man I seem on here is 18-21.
not worth the money, I can just jack off. I do want affection, but I want it to be genuine, so thats why people like >>26355559 are out of the question.
not whining, just telling it like it is. people asked if money could buy happiness/love/sex, and it can't, because women will still want a handsome, big dicked chad.
as far as looks, they don't matter as much up front as long as they're willing to work on them with me. I'd actually bother eating right and working out if someone gave half a damn about me, so if she'd be willing to, then just a pretty face would be ok, since I've been told I'm "handsome", just overweight. obviously breast size and such doesn't matter since I have a below average dick. age would probably be the big factor because everyone I've dated has been younger than me and really immature, so I'd want someone in their late 20s/early 30s that is beyond saying "that's what she said" and nonsense like that. no blacks.
nice meme, being friends with a woman is impossible.
op here. yea, no thanks.
frankly, I think we're both interesting. I'm a stick in the mud, sexually repressed, but you don't claim to be so, so why haven't you gotten sloppy with a slut?
even the thought of making out with someone who isn't pure makes me cringe. I know 99% of women have had a dick in their mouth. Why would I want to put my mouth on theirs?
and from my previous experience talking about this shit here, now is when the tide shifts. Robots, who typically talk about no hymen no diamond, waifus, not wanting to be cuckolds, will now vilify me.
have not will look it up.
Tinder is shit. Get some friends and meet people through them, or go to some singles events.
I'm a skinny, shy nerd and I got a GF just fine. You're full of shit. The reason you have never held hands is because you do not put in the effort. You make up excuses about being an asian man and you buy into this redpill bullshit so that you can ignore your fat body and your lack of social effort. You think that because you have money your parents handed to you, a woman should just fall into your lap. You're like Elliot fucking Rodger. You're too old to be this stupid. How are you this stupid?
>Literally, women of your own race hate you, hate the idea of you with them, hate the idea of having children with you.
Yeah that's bay area mentality for you. You have no choice but to move.
I work in a niche field so I'm good enough. I think if you're a grad from a decent cs program, you can get a job and be employed for a while.
just be smart about your earnings and plan for the future.
One of the hallmarks of biological life is reproduction, usually referred to in the context of characterizing a general pattern of behavior we observe across vastly differing circumstances in our world. This was never a prescription regarding point or purpose, but one regarding classification.
Moreover, even this criterion is typically relaxed in biology, as biologists do not refer to sterile members of a population as being dead. There are several other hallmarks to life that are considered before reproduction; wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life#Definitions) lists a few of them, such as homeostasis, organization, metabolism, growth, adaptation, response to stimuli.
My mistake, I will admit that I have trouble telling middle-aged children apart.
Well-put. People acting like reproduction is the sole goal of any human being are retarded.
I think purely dating someone without having a friendship with them first only works for Chads.
I've never heard of it working out for a beta dude who goes purely into dating scene.
right, you were friends and in a relationship. that works, until the relationship ends. but the other way, the girl will either take advantage of the guy because he hopes the friendship will become a relationship when she doesn't feel that way, or the guy will spaz out and try to force a relationship when the girl just wants a friend. >>26355817
I guess you mean me, and I already said no
OP, have you thought of invitro? Just purchase an egg from some clinic, go to india and pay for it to be carried in some random indian woman. Cheaper than here anyway, plus you can essentially choose your child. It's what I plan on doing if all else fails.
okay. Well, I recommend you either go to a decent academic cs undergraduate program, or you get sufficiently good at data structures and algorithms (design and analysis) for passing interviews. Workwise, it's about your chops with the language/libraries, software engineering, and just being dependable.
I offered to get to know you and you had the chance but enjoy being forever alone. Also my pussy literally can't take big dicks. I have endometriosis and sex hurts (only did it 2 times).
The 36 year old here.
Oh, I am very sexually repressed. But wicked society has forced me to be repressed. If I wasn't repressed, I'd be in prison. You see?
I haven't gotten sloppy with a slut because even sluts don't want me. Remember, I'm a wizard. So are you, but if we extend this wizard metaphor nonsense to the kind of nerdy bullshit that I myself adore, you'd be wearing the white robes. Pristine, good. You want that pure woman who has never sucked a cock before. Your desires are your own and, as such, are unassailable. You want what you want.
My robes are black as hell. I'd jump at the chance with a slut, make no mistake. Not a prostitute, though. I do have my standards. And that standard is simple: she would actually want me.
But, you see, not even sluts want me. I am monstrously unattractive. I know, because I am a wizard who would have no problem cavorting with sluts. But, as I said, not even sluts would condescend to me.
So it's made me sick. And sickness is only interesting in sideshow attractions. A little bit of schadenfreude for the normal scum whose cute little girls look at monsters like me, shudder, and hold their normal scum lovers tighter. And the normal scum return that embrace and thank God almighty they're not the ones behind the exhibit glass.
"Would you pierce his tongue with hooks? Or put him in a cage to amuse your girls?" That sort of thing. But they can, so they do. Not much fun, but someone has to be the freak. Otherwise, what fun is life?
sure. I'll accept all that you wrote, if you accept that the same professor also said something to effect of 'member of species who either do not or can not reproduce are biologically unviable, and thus essentially useless'.
now for humans, you can still be useful outside of offspring. However, the vast majority are not. Being a wage slave is not useful. Being a cog in wheelworks is not useful. Newton was useful.
Got any interest/semi-interest from your female friends?
I've seen Around Week or Two Friendship -> Ask Out Firmly work a few times.
Beta dudes who go on Tinder Dates and OKCupid Dates never work.
I'm no Chad and I started dating my GF without knowing her first. We met at a mutual friend's birthday party and I asked her out on Facebook afterwards. We've been dating for four years. Not saying that it's the same thing as trying to cold chat someone up at a bar or whatever, but it doesn't have to be a 'friends first' thing.
>buying into the NEET meme
Of course most people are useful. If you are in a job that accomplishes something, and you pay taxes, you are useful. You are providing a service with your job, and you are giving money to society to fund infrastructure, law, order, and education. You don't have to be exceptional to be useful.
I really don't. Granted, most of my local female friends/acquaintances are older than me. The handful of others are either in a relationship or I'm not interested in but I can also gauge the whole lack of interest upon their end. I will admit that I couldn't date somebody off looks alone without knowing them, and I have to get to know someone at least a little bit first before I ever really develop any serious interest in them. Sometimes I wish I could be a normalfag and not give a shit but I can't change that.
why is it so hard for you guys to make a girl fall in love with you?
Make her fall in love with you by being the man that she wants to have fun sex with. in reality, that's all that matters.
inb4 "I'm not Chad ;.;"
sexual tension has nothing to do with that.
Again, you misunderstand the context.
Whatever professor you speak of meant "biologically unviable" with regards to reproduction within the population, and "thus essentially useless" with regards to reproduction within the population. This is typically in the context of population dynamics, a common topic among introductory biology courses. Generalizing this to a definition of objective usefulness is a misinterpretation of his observation.
Too late. You had your chance and failed. I would have really accepted you and you were just in luck because my tight pussy can't fit shit in there.
I actually have no idea who you're talking about. Just wanted to see if you had something funny to say.
31 year old here. Got a small surveying company. Not rich but I make enough.
I've had a few relationships throughout my life. From all of my interactions with women I've learned that they can all be classified in one of three ways (or some combination of the three)
Women aren't worth the trouble they put you through to get em or keep em.
I love masturbating but sex hurts for me. A small penis would be fine and I have a home.
I'm sorry daddy, I didn't mean it. You were just so mean to me when I offered myself to you. I offered myself to you, to be with you forever and you denied me. Now you want me back? I would have done anything to please you.
I don't think you understand sluts too well. sluts dont jump on every man they see, they jump on every chad.
You're better off getting a hooker.
Doesnt matter who you are or where you are in the world, all men pay for pussy. thats how it works.
I got the good stem job because I ignored girls in high school and never learned how to talk to them leading to the current situation.
there are burger flipping chads out there who have probably slayed more pussy than I've masturbated to.
you still have a chance, if you're sincere, but you should understand why I'm so cautious. if you can't, then don't bother sending an email. if you can, then maybe Daddy can get over his past
24/F. Biological female. Virgin.
200 lb -- with desires to lose it. White.
5/10 face. Nervous to share photos, so don't expect them quickly.
Looking for someone aged 28-40. Particularly with an interest in marriage and kids -- and having a career to support kids. Short guys are fine. Guys around my size are preferred. 4/10 face -- so some standards but they are low. Virgin so I don't know if dick size is an issue for me...
...will probably call you 'Daddy' if you're into that. I've got no daddy issues to worry about though. Will learn to cook. Likes video games and anime. Not a big spender. Want to be a housewife and mom. Currently studying so I haven't got a lot of time to do the things I want, like lose weight, learn to cook.
Email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
>just finished undergrad
>was going to get job or internship at local behavioral hospital because professor knew a guy in charge there
>didn't work out
>waiting to hear back about grad school acceptance
If it's a no-go then I believe my only option is self-death. I have too many permanent flaws in my brain to get a normal basic min-wage job and I've always been poor. No other choice.
This thread is the best laugh I've had in a while.
>MFW people actually think intelligence and charm are mutually exclusive.
Sounds reasonable. Ionly have my mother and, when I told her about this, she essentially lost her smile in our discussion. Knew it won't fly with her, but it might be a last resort for me.
Dad doesn't give a fuck though.
>...will probably call you 'Daddy' if you're into that. I've got no daddy issues to worry about though
I swear, what is with all these bitches. They're always the most fucked up as well. This shit is beyond disgusting.
>pros: smart (stem from public ivy), make six figures, will inherit a business that will free me and my children from wage slavery
Damn. You may never find a real connection, but you can afford copious amounts of the next best thing.
My good friends! Please! Let's be realistic!
The wizard life is a horrible life because it is exceptional! Weird, bizarre, real freak-show abomination of nature variety of stuff. Wizards, men like myself, are abominations!
Most men have sex. They have sex with women who want to have sex with them. Most men aren't this "chad" you speak of.
Get it? The vast, overwhelming majority of men have sex with women who want them. Aforesaid vast, overwhelming majority of men aren't monstrously wealthy or divinely handsome. They're just regular guys. Most regular guys have sex.
Wizards like us are fucking monsters. No, we aren't chad. Neither are the vast majority of men who actually do have sex.
We aren't rejected because we are average. We are rejected because we are so far below average that we are statistical abnormalities.
The wizard life is a very hard life.
I was but I actually don't fit your standards. I hope you find someone one day. ;_;
I did order one recently actually and I'm not interested in finding a boyfriend.
I just find it funny saying it and sort of turns me on for some reason.
>200 lb -- with desires to lose it.
Maybe you should desire it more you stupid fat fucking cunt.
> Will learn to cook
24, a fat whale, and you can't even fucking cook.
What use are you exactly?
>Want to be a housewife and mom
Translation: You want to have no responsibility in your fat worthless life because you're too incompetent to achieve anything of value
>Currently studying so I haven't got a lot of time to do the things I want,
Absolute fucking bullshit. Exercise is literally 30 minutes a day, and learning to cook is roughly the same.
>wahhh I have no time because I'm so busy "studying". Brb checking facebook, and twitter, and reading slash fiction, and watching netflix
Modern fucking women. What a joke
no one has even remotely suggested that in this thread.
at the same time, I doubt the perception of 'charm' has anything to do with the words coming out of your mouth.
vaginas get wet over 'charm'---to bad it's just a euphemism for aesthetics.
yes, that's all true. What I didn't make clear was that chad is the choice for casual sex.
and women have who have sex in relationships with average men (betas!) still want chad, or at least, chad's seed.
No, it's not shit you already know, or you wouldn't think you deserve a successful, educated gentleman in his 30s with his own career, house and disposable income despite being a fat fucking waster who is too lazy to jog and can't even cook.
Know what your level is? Literal reddit neckbeard "m'lady" who works at Walmart.
sex doesn't matter unless you're not getting any.
most married couples don't even have sex regularly.
why should we waste away trying to be something so mundane and pathetic.
I've decided to continue being a ROBOT, I don't think rubbing genitals with a girl will make me a better person, nor will it make me a genius so whats the point?
>What I didn't make clear was that chad is the choice for casual sex
"Chad" is a lamentable, paranoid fantasy that this board, if it didn't create it, helped it grow.
It isn't Chad vs. Betas. It's Men vs. Monsters. We wizards are the monsters. We aren't allowed to live as men live.
That's the beginning and the end of it. Chad is just the boogeyman that boogeymen like us invented to make our lives even remotely palatable.
There are no divine Chads. But there are monsters. We are those monsters. We are the slithering, repulsive dirty things women despise. Just because things like us exist doesn't mean Chad has to. Just because there's a Devil doesn't mean there's no God and, rest assured, there can be a Hell without a Heaven. My dear wizards, this is Hell (nor are we out of it)!
I wasn't lying. I just read your standards and don't fit them. It's too bad though that I'll never be able to cuddle you and rub your head at night. Something you longed for you whole life. Goodbye..
No I just do not want one. They would obviously want sex and it would hurt, etc.I'd just get dumped
This is false. Confidence is the most important overall metric, while height is the most important strictly physical metric.
I know that these truths will be willfully denied in the below, because I have made these same correct observations on r9k in the past. Therefore, I make them not in an effort to convince anyone else (like women and frankly people in general, robots are also obliged to gainsay reality at times in order to spare their own ego-deaths, albeit for less enviable reasons), but on general principle that a continual re-statement of truth is a good.
How dare you talk to him like that, women like you are the reason hes in this mess in the first place. you're just making things worse. you don't even want sex or a bf so why are you even here?
>All these old fucks
Lol, so much for saving the white race, how did you even end up in 4chan?
I want sex/bf but I'm just scared of finding someone that has a "larger" penis that will hurt me. Which is a turn off. I rather just use my hand. Plus, I wasn't lying. I wanted to be useful to someone without being judged but it turns out even the lowest of the lows is picky and now is making an exception out of desperation.
4chan was a thing shortly before facebook, and is the originator of large swaths of internet culture.
The point being that 4chan predates what we commonly call "social media". And some of us were hip enough never to engage in the latter, and stay here. The interface is better, too, being nice clean hybrid between chat and ugly web 1.0 "forums".
To this very day, /I actually enjoy using image boards./ Other online communication media? Not so much.
this is why girls can't be robots. the guy reconsidered, gave her an email, even said he'd look past any of his "standards" (except not wanting a blackbot) (but femanon said she hated blacks too), and is whining about the anon being picky.
this is why all roasties need to LEAVE.
I'll be your slave. I don't want to go outside. It's too scary