Why the fuck is the female orgasm so goddamn impossible to obtain? You literally can't have anything wrong with your life. You can't be stressed, you can't be annoyed, you can't dislike or distrust your partner, you can't dislike your own body, the room must be in perfect temperature, you must have discovered immortality and the meaning of life and retreived the head of the immortal deer god.
And then you fucking sneeze and it's all ruined all over again.
For fuck's sake I just want to stop feeling like shit for 5 fucking minutes.
Aren't female orgasms just a leftover trait from long ago? Like, it isn't necessary for the function of pregnancy, which is what sex and shit is for anyways. why do women even get orgasms?
Where do I browse fetishes? Is there like a list of alphabetical order somewhere?
I'm no longer aroused by fat guys getting gently humiliated and I have no idea where to go from here.
The problem with getting a partner is that I automatically hate everyone who wants to fuck me and apparently disliking your partner is a no-no.
Either look up some wikipedia fetish categories or browse through some porn sites categories. Seems like you might be into some BDSM for a start. And by partner, i meant someone who's willing to join in, not really a relationship partner. You could find through Tinder or any dating site.
nah I've tried looking for BDSM stuff. Not my thing, the doms are annoying and subs are trying too hard.
Also, no. I literally hate everyone who tries to have a boner in my presence.
>orgasm multiple times just from making out.
she was faking so hard you can't even fathom
That's a harsh attitude, but I guess that's reality for you. You might actually want to try that dom stuff yourself, and turn that hate into something sexual for you. If you can't do that, my best guess is settling for wet dreams, sorry.
nah, I don't want to be responsible of some emotionally dependent needy freak.
I just hate people who want pussy in general. I'd like to date men, have boyfriends and things, but every time the matter of sex is brought up, all I can feel is betrayed and insulted. The prospect of sex being something BOTH of us enjoy, instead of a service I am selling to him in exchange for something I like and he doesn't is just completely fucking foreign to me.
>I can't imagine how fucking unfair
You just summed up the entirety of being a woman in 6 words.
Women have it easy aside from child birth, menstruating, and being a slave to the opinions of other's. Unless you're ugly, then you're absolutely fucked. But even that has levels to it.
>Fat with a beautiful face and assets
>Fat with a cute face and no assets
>Fat with an ugly face
>Any level of ugly man
In that order.
>I don't know how to masturbate or pleasure myself The Post
Every time I rub my clit I get eye-rolling orgasms
Sometimes I just stop because its too much for me to handle. However I need to be in the right mood and that's around a time before or after my period. Otherwise I get absolutely nothing.
>>I can't imagine how fucking unfair
>You just summed up the entirety of being a woman in 6 words.
Maybe you wanna talk that over with a doctor or therapist. You're not crazy or anything, but seeing professional help is certainly better than trying to find an answer here. It may even just be that you can't be stimulated clitorally, although you've probably tried other ways at this point.
I don't give a shit about stroking some dude's ego by cumming in his presence so this is not a problem for me.
>Women have it easy
lesser strenght, lesser size, the burnt of the effort when it comes to procreating, higher fat percentage with less muscle.
Women are literally inferior in all things except for the things where they are equal to men (and men FALSELY think they're inferior anyway).
According to the period tracker on my phone my period should start today, but knowing that it stubbornly keeps with the 28 day cycles despite of my cycles ranging from 32-37 days, I have no fucking idea.
Still no orgasm. Not even pleasure.
I've quit smoking. I took it up for a while to handle a stressful life situation and quit once it was over.
>Women are literally inferior in all things except for the things where they are equal to men
and yet women have an allure and loveliness to them that makes men do stupid irrational things to please them
they hold power over mens' emotions
No, that's just the pretty ones who happen to be heterosexual, possess the intellectual capability to manipulate men to do their bidding, and are NOT emotionally or sexually traumatised beyond the point of being capable using sex as a bargaining chip.
90% of women still have it shit.
I think it really varies girl to girl. The girl I'm fucking currently can cum just from dry humping but I've had chicks who needed like 20 minutes of foreplay before they could cum
>strength and size mattering in first world countries in 2016
>body fat % being exactly proportional between genders
>inferior in all things
u r rtarded
Yah but I mean that's when you're masturbating maybe you need to find a partner who understands you sexually. Also the pressure of wanting to cum so bad might be holding you back
>women consist of two kinds of things
>things in which they're less than men in
>things in which men think they're lesser despite of being equal
That'd be the physical and mental side, respectively.
I can physically feel my cunt drying shut whenever sex with a man is a potential option, unless I'm drunk off my mind.
I am also truly and genuinely insulted when a man - any man, at any time, at all times - thinks he is entitled to have me touch the dick. I don't want to touch the dick.
I'm only interested in sex once every three months, but even then, the limit of my interest is being angry at not being interested in it.
Where would you suggest I find a partner who'll put up with that?
Would you stick your hand into a meat grinder? Even if it's not on? And there's a dude there with a finger on the switch, giving you a pinky-promise that he's not going to switch it on?
so fix your personality or stop complaining
>I want an orgasm but can't do it on my own
>the prospect of having a male partner help utterly disgusts me
>I don't want to try anything else either
>woe is me
Wht do you want me to do?
You *do* know that the percentage of women who orgasm during sex with a man is always lower than the percentage of women who orgasm from masturbation?
If I can't do it on my own, nobody else can help.
Have you considered what this anon says? It seems like you're just way too fucking dumb to handle your own bodily functions and you need an actual person to do it for you.
he just told you, he wants you to shut the fuck up. You are obviously repressed as fuck, despite what you claim. You just want to bitch and gripe about it here for yous, so you can bring attention to the fact that your so different and thats why everyone should understand you.
I FUCKING KNOW, RIGHT?! I'm plagued with all kinds of sexual issues, it's a fucking nightmare, I'm basically frigid at this point. But even back in the day when I was a semi-nymphomaniac, I couldn't orgasm. I'd just keep going and going until the dude couldn't handle it anymore. But I couldn't come, not even by myself. FUCK THIS.
Where, exactly, do you expect me to pull a master lover willing to work for free?
Which part would you recommend? The clitoris, the g-spot, the u-spot, the roof?
What am I repressing, exactly?
>Stupid wheelchair users getting a seat everywhere they go.
idk I had these few years when I'd go out to drink and the goal was to just get drunk enough to not care that I get fucked by the time some dude came to pick me up.
I didn't like fucking, I liked drinking and mom didn't let me drink at the house. I fucked a lot of dudes back then.
You've got a problem with people cussing? Especially over something they're actually really angry and hurt about? And you question someone's intelligence through a bunch of assumptions and generalizations? Good for you, go join Mensa. And then go fuck yourself.
Look up the definition of repressed. You obviously have hangups that you're not willing or ready to deal with, and it comes through in your sex life. Some people just have lower libido, I get that, but the fact that you're here complaining, calling yourself and "evil bitch" and griping for yous makes me think that libido isn't the problem, and instead its your repressed issues.
You would probably come to terms with your nature if sex just wasn't your thing, but likening it to sticking your hand in a meat grinder??
That's just how they talk. That's how the women they hang out with talk.
Please stop having a tantrum. You are being exactly the kind of a woman /r9k/ thinks they are and you are embarrassing us all.
>I don't want to touch the dick
How about the mouth? You can apply a lot of stimulation with oral if you do it right. Eg. by putting the lips around the clit and pushing the whole mouth fowards and back you can move the clitoral hood like fapping with an uncircumcised penis, and at the same time lick the clit directly. I had a gf who used vibrators and was fairly insensitive and she'd orgasm very quickly from this.
Of course not many people will do this for nothing in return, so find somebody with some fetish that doesn't involve using the penis and arrange a deal.
I've never been raped. I've never been abused or taken advantage of. I've never even been hit, not outside of a childhood fight and I always threw the first punch.
I wasn't raised in any oppressive way. I was never told or taught that sex is bad, I was educated in the subject early and in a sane and healthy, supportive manner.
I've never been hurt.
What the fuck do I have to be repressed about?
I wouldn't call calmly telling someone to go fuck themselves a "tantrum", especially since they came at me first in an a rather presumptuous, uncivilized manner. Not sure what this board's opinions on women are as I don't frequent it, sorry if I offended anyone. You guys especially sensitive or something?
Serious answer: identify the muscles in your vagina. Learn to isolate them. Build strength and control. It'll help.
And if you're somehow too much of an evil bitch to do that, there's no hope.
Listen lady, I'm not your freakin therapist, I've never met you. repressed issues aren't always as obvious as rape or childhood trauma; our ego buries a lot of stuff. Things about ourselves we don't like, things we aren't ready to accept or deal with. You should think about that... This is a grecco roman proverb that still holds up today "know thyself"
I've had an account on some dating sites, and as disappointing as it is, my reaction to all unsolicted dick pics and sexual advances is roughly the same as finding dog shit on my bed.
>as I don't frequent it
My god, woman. Get out while you still can.
Women are such inferior garbage they can't even fucking orgasm properly. Why did we ever give them rights?
I do kegels. What else am I supposed to?
also, I never called myself an evil bitch. A cunt, yes, but he started it.
If it's not sexual then then what?
You're not seriously telling me that the reason why I can't cum as an adult is being bullied for being autistic when I was 8?
Just go and lez out, you closet lesbian. All women are closet lesbians, anyway. Men are just useful idiots (paychecks) to them.
Stop being a prude and fuck yourself with something.
>teehee a vibrator on my cunt
Metaphorically man up and stuff something in your rancid dillhole and work it around until you figure it out. Fuck, this isn't rocket science. 10/10 I'm mad and I fell for your attention whore thread.
Didn't mean dating sites but forums dedicated to erotic roleplay, usually you don't see people's faces on those kind of websites and you don't even have any proof of the sex of your "partner" (even if it's easy to tell by the way they describe sex)
You gotta stop shifting the fucking goal posts of this discussion. I'm not saying that its because you were bullied as a kid, but if thats what comes to mind first then that might be a good place to start. Look up the word psychosomatic.. your issue is a pretty common problem
Dude. If sexual orientation was a choice, NOBODY WOULD DATE MEN.
Most women can't orgasm from penetration alone. One of my more stable sexual partners had a dick like a horse and all it did was mildly hurt.
I've tried a few that kind of sexual role play chats on omegle. I get bored halfway through when I realise how massively uninterested I am to the whole idea.
Is it anything similar?
>Fake physical attraction to men
>Fake insecurities for attention
Even the ancients knew how cancerous the vaginal Jew was.
Didn't try it on omegle tho, it was an actual community dedicated to this, with some kind of quality actually, people made a big deal of this, there was a background and stuf, just like a real D&D party but with sex.
You know what's the difference between Scandinavia and the Middle-East?
The treatment of women.
Teen pregnancy and infant mortality plummet in places where girls are given education up to 15 years old. Not even education about hygiene or sex ed, just education in general. And women who know how to read teach their children to read.
Women are HARDWIRED to keep shit together. That's how hunter-gatherer societies were constructed. The more rights and power women have, the better off a society is.
>Women are HARDWIRED to keep shit together. That's how hunter-gatherer societies were constructed. The more rights and power women have, the better off a society is.
What a load of shit. Every ancient civilization that became more feminized and degenerate was eventually topped by a more brutal, patriarchal society.
When it happened to the Greeks, the Romans moved in and beat down their gates. When it happened to the Romans, the brutal Germanic barbarians moved in and did the same.
We're seeing the same thing happen in Europe RIGHT NOW with the migrant hordes.
Even the USA--as feminized as it is today--has been losing ground to the strong, patriarchal Asian nations such as South Korea and China. It'll only be a matter of time before women and their progressive, emasculated male enablers completely collapse the USA and pave the way for the next two centuries of Asian domination.
Holy shit I've been on SSRI's since I was 13 and I'm a fucking horndog. I can only imagine what I'd be like if I wasn't being restrained by medication.
>tfw diagnosed sex addiction along with severe major depression, anxiety, and ocd
So men and women peacefully coexisting is simply not possible? Either women are enslaved by their own men, or the entire nation is enslaved by someone else's men?
I've heard they're loud, and my anxiety prevents me from buying anything online.
Oh, and your claim that HURR DURR WE WOMYN USED TO RULE THE WORLD N SHEET WHEN WE WERE TRIBES--that's false.
There was only one "successful" matriarchal society in history--the Samaritans. And they got brutally raped and murdered by the Huns. The Celtic tribes were not actually matriarchal--unlike what your gender studies professor taught you.
One would think that the USA would open a history book and realize that women aren't suitable for combat roles in the military. It certainly didn't work well for the "Amazon warriors."
Being a housewife that actually raises children instead of leaving them to fend for themselves isn't fucking enslavement. It's how a healthy society is supposed to function.
The reason why millennials are so fucked is because most of them didn't get the attention and affection that they needed as children since both parents worked (if they were even lucky enough to have two parents--another product of women's lib).
Does a successful society have to require war?
Is the prospect of actually producing an entire world in which everyone has enough and there is no purpose for constant war really so unobtainable that it's useless to try and aim for it?
The world produces enough grain to feed every human being residing on it. The reason it goes to waste is failures in distribution.
Men are built for war. That's nice. But is constant war really the goal here?
What about a situation in which women who don't want children are not pressured to have them, and there would BE no children being deprived of attention, as only people who want to devote their lives to having children would be the ones having them?
>Does a successful society have to require war?
Of course not, but wars are going to fucking happen because human beings are literally apex PREDATORS. If you have something another nation wants and you have no military to defend yourself, they are going to fucking TAKE IT FROM YOU.
In that situation, it's fine if you work because you need to provide for yourself. But once you have a kid, you need to focus your full attention on raising them.
And the same situation applies to a man if they had a girlfriend that bailed on her kids and left them with him (I was personally raised by a single father).
Ideally, a child needs both parents, though--especially a mother. When they are deprived of that, they wind up on /r9k/.
Who said there would be NO military? Of course a society would have to defend itself. The thing is, we aren't living on the fucking bronze age, and a machine gun requires a lot less strength than a sword.
A matriarchal society has not existed on the face of planet earth because it has never been possible.
An equal society could be possible with modern technology, if it weren't for a set amount of archaic brains going about.
>Is the prospect of actually producing an entire world in which everyone has enough and there is no purpose for constant war really so unobtainable that it's useless to try and aim for it?
That's called the USSR tier communism and it failed miserably. Communism is garbage, Bernie. You're literally proving pic related correct: >>26325129
>An equal society could be possible with modern technology, if it weren't for a set amount of archaic brains going about.
And how exactly do you propose we unite the entire world under a single peaceful world government, Gandhi? Is Putin going to just drop everything, take a bag of shrooms, and see the light? Get outta here.
Where I'm from, both parents get an equal amount of maternity/paternity leave, though there is room for arrangements, but in theory either parent could either stay with the child completely or not touch it at all.
Americans have this bizarre idea that anyone who depends on the government is an evil mooching leech, as if the people existed to support the government and not the other way around.
If a single mother stays at home to look after her children, the government should support that choice. If single father decided to do the same, he should have the equal right to do so.
Tax the corporations. Hail socialism.
>And how exactly do you propose we unite the entire world under a single peaceful world government
By teaching their women to fucking read.
I'm not saying Russia can be changed, it probably can't. But maybe something could be done to allow its citizens to flee that godforsaken place into better countries, drain the country dry of human resources.
>A matriarchal society has not existed on the face of planet earth
Yes it did--they were called the Sarmatians and they were primitive as hell and got annihilated by a stronger, more patriarchal society (The Huns). The word "Sarmatians" literally means "ruled by women."
How does women being able to read have to do with enacting some sort of peace loving, matriarchal one world government? Women are highly educated in Japan and it's still a highly patriarchal society. So is China. So is Singapore. So is South Korea.
Do you think they're all going to just drop everything and give up their fucking sovereignty? What a joke.
Good point, actually.
We might have to use violence to suffocate patriarchal societies, after all.
Maybe encourage asian women to murder their fathers and husbands. That would be an objective way to get rid of the ones who treat women poorly.
Well, since they can't just walk into the gun store and buy a complementary freedom maker, they'd have to kill them with their bare hands.
That would mean a physical struggle. The women would get bitch-slapped like the weaker sex they are.
Are you aware of the existence of poison? The problem with asians is that they are such organised people. Surely they have access to different toxic materials, even some that kill before the ambulance arrives and don't taste in food.
When there is a will, there is a way.
Besides, at least Japan is already coughing socially, their culture is coming to a dead end. Young people no longer want to get married, the work days are too long for the traditional kinds of courtship and adopting a more westernised casualness to dating doesn't just happen.
Japan's fate will consist of vassalage to China in the coming decades. And your feminist uprising is laughable and will never happen there. They literally murder female infants since they have a quota.
Welcome to the next generation of patriarchy.
its not senpai, i made a girl orgasm like 3 times in one night lmao just gotta get it down fampai
fuck her missionary, with her legs over her head, resting on your shoulders
smash that pussy
Not just China--it happens in India and other less developed parts of Asia, too.
India is also projected to become a superpower due to their massive production capacity (population, resources, industry) in the coming decades--poo in loo meme notwithstanding.
You feminists need to stop living in a bubble and realize that there is an entire world outside of western society (which is in decline). China's brutality and repression of females makes most middle eastern nations red with envy. They make Iran look like San Francisco as far as that's concerned.
Stop looking at traditional gender roles like they're a bad thing. There is nothing wrong with a man being a strong provider and there is honor in being a good wife to your children.
And of course, you're perfectly free to never marry, cheat on your boyfriend/wife, never settle down, etc--but this whole "war on gender roles" that third wave feminists are waging is silly and even worse--damaging.
Destroying the traditional family unit is not a good thing. Telling your son that "boys aren't supposed to dress like that" when he puts on a dress is not a bad thing.
I am incapable of being happy.
I am incapable of being docile and submissive and feminine and motherly. I am incapable of existing in this world in a way that isn't painful. I can't. No matter how hard I try, I can't.
Rest your hand on your pubic mound
Pull towards you gently until the clitoral hood is revealed
If unable to, rest the index and middle finger directly around the clitoris, and pull towards you to fully reveal the clitoral hood.
With wet fingers, oil based lubes work better, gently rub the clitoris in a circular motion until orgasm is achieved.
This is literally all a woman has to do. Knowing OP has a penis, I hope you at least got a boner from this.
You sound like you just need to find someone to love you, truth be told. Tell me--have you honestly ever been in a long term relationship with someone you loved? Once you develop a strong physical and emotional attraction to someone, not only will you find it a lot easier to climax, but you won't feel so fucking depressed all of the time.
I'm a 29 year old dude and have been rather miserable since my ex left me. I hardly even feel the desire to fap any more because I'm miserable.
Don't generalize. The only thing I know is increased exposure to pornography has a positive correlation to arousal caused by harm to the other party during sexual intercourse.
For example, a teenager might find having sex with a big tit blonde, just vanilla sex, to be the epitome of pleasure in this world.
However, a NEET who faps daily and visits /d/ might be more aroused by loli's taking massive cocks in their assholes while their little bodies are stretched and filled with cum.
That's fucking crazy, Anon. Nothing makes a man feel manly more than giving his girl mind-blowing orgasms and pleasure. That's why some women fake them because when you tell a guy you couldn't get off, they believe they are inadequate.
This is exactly what I was talking about. Are you sure you are not the girl that I know? You both are so similar when it comes to being like this it's cringeworthy.
>I am incapable of being docile and submissive and feminine and motherly.
You can still find someone who loves you even without all that. It's your general attitude that is the problem.
If two years count as "long term", I was with someone who loved me. He was an ugly fuck with a childish personality but he loved me more than anything else in the world. I thought I could learn to love him and marry him and have his ugly children but it turns out it doesn't work that way.
You can't make yourself love someone just because you have to.
They call it "giving a nice guy a chance". I thought that would make me happy. I thought I could learn to be a good woman and be a wife and a mother.
It turns out being truly loved by someone you can't love back isn't any better than getting fucked by some chad whose name you don't care about and who doesn't remember yours.
Well, why don't you try putting yourself out there and finding another man (or woman--not sure if you're repressing something) that you are attracted to from a personality and physical standpoint? It's really not too difficult if you're even relatively cute and don't possess an obnoxious/bitchy personality.
I've never forced any of my prior relationships and every one of them made me feel like I was experience puppy dog love for the first year or so. Living with each other and learning to grow together over the years is the fucking hard part.
Seriously--doing so will probably resolve your orgasm issue for real. It'll also help out with your depression.
I've always been like this. I have never fit into it, I have never been able to be a good girl or good woman.
>finding another man that you are attracted to from a personality and physical standpoint?
It's not possible.
I am too picky.
I have met about 4 men I was attracted to over my life, and they all turned me down. Save for #3, who was already in a relationship with a girl I love dearly as a friend, and she deserves the best man I have ever seen.
I can't find a man I'd like because they do not exist. And once in a blue moon when they do, they don't like me.
Well, are you some sort of hardcore feminist? And I don't mean the second wave type that believes in actual equality. I'm talking about the third wavers that dye their hair silly colors, rant about the patriarchy, want a matriarchy, etc.
That's very unattractive to most men. If that describes you, it needs to be toned down a notch. Again, if you are even reasonably attractive and aren't a bitch, you'll find a guy if you step outside of the basement once in awhile. Don't even go looking--they'll come to you. Your previous rejections and self-loathing are depressing you to the point that you can't even orgasm, for fuck's sake.
I don't do the whole Tumblr nonsense, I know the difference between intersectional feminism and just being a sour bitch for no reason at all save for a narcissistic game of playing the victim.
The problem is that women are naturally nurturing and men are naturally warlike, so while I do believe a matriarchal society would be happier while existing in a vacuum, the rest of this thread is right about the fact that it would be raped to death by a patriarchal society in 0,3 seconds.
Men have to rule out of necessity and I don't know how to be a good dog.
Men only rule because the desire for the best woman is literally the driving force behind most innovations and competition throughout history.
Men outdo each other in order to obtain enough wealth and prestige to attract the best mate--this is how society has been formed from the very beginning since women are ultimately the ones who pick from the herd, so to speak.
Women do not do this and a matriarchal society would stagnate and collapse given enough time. They don't seek out other men and they generally "herd together" rather than out compete each other for another man's heart (getting a bit of superficial attention in order to make other women jealous doesn't count).
Nobody said you need to compromise to that extent. But you make it seem that you only want the cream of the crop here.
Do you have any guys who were interested in you recently? Maybe you already have some decent choices and you are just shutting yourself off and you are being a bitch for arbitrary reasons.
>I don't know how to be a good dog
What the fuck does that even mean?
Men are built for war and the only way for a society to thrive is to be at constant war. I'd like to pretend human existence could continue without constant suffering and machine guns and it can't.
It's not like I'm only going after supermodels. I just have a very particular type and most guys do not fall into it.
There was one. He is plain and bland in every imaginable way and so void of any smell, taste or texture that dating him would not be any different from not having a man at all.
>What the fuck does that even mean?
I can't be the kind of a woman that men find pleasant. I can't be docile, I can't be submissive, I can't be a mother.
>I just have a very particular type and most guys do not fall into it.
And that type is?
>I can't be the kind of a woman that men find pleasant. I can't be docile, I can't be submissive, I can't be a mother.
There are men out there that don't mind all that.
War = resources = more wealth = more prestige = every 10/10 woman wants you = every man wants to be you
Seriously, society was built by men trying to outdo other men in order to win the affection of the best woman. We have literally evolved that way--that's why women are generally valued based on their looks and men are valued based on their personality, wealth, social influence, and lastly--their looks (rather minor, but it can help). You can watch documentaries on African tribes who try to prove their man-hood as the female tribeswomen look on and eagerly await the winner. Multiply that by 1000X, and you have modern western society.
With a matriarchy, men would feel compelled to simply achieve the bare minimum in order to sustain himself and hopefully get laid every now and then when some rich, female boss has one too many drinks. Women don't complete with each other for the affection of men to the extent that men do for women. Also, dominant women who act like men is an extreme turn-off. There is nothing more unattractive than a stone-faced, female manager.
>And that type is?
A fat guy with a nice face and a good personality.
Most fat guys have weird or ugly faces. And if he's got a pleasant face, he's usually a vicious cunt. And if he's nice, he's taken. This has been true for 100% of the cases I've encountered.
>There are men out there that don't mind all that.
society as a whole still hates me and my entire kind.
There are people in Brazil trying to prevent women from getting access to birth control and abortions despite of the zika virus. It's not about defending a life worth living anymore, they just want to punish women for existing.
>women are generally valued based on their looks
>Also, dominant women who act like men is an extreme turn-off.
>There is nothing more unattractive than a stone-faced, female manager.
I am literally worthless and you just said it yourself. I have no reason not to kill myself.
Just because they can't legally do that doesn't mean that they wouldn't want to.
The reason why finnish cops don't shoot civilians in the face is because they can't get away with it.
Men hate women who aren't good dogs. Men hate women all over the world. I am safe because they were stupid enough to let women vote and make laws that protect me for the time.
>Men hate women who aren't good dogs
This is bullshit. Men hate women who act like men and want to rule over them. They want women to be women--no one said you had to be forced to stay in the kitchen. No one said you couldn't work.
>Men hate women who act like men and want to rule over them.
Yes. Those women are not good dogs.
>They want women to be women
Wives, mothers, maids, nurses. Servants. Good dogs.
I'm not saying anyone is actively preventing me from existing. I'm just saying I am upset that I am hated for it.
If a man doesn't want to sleep with a woman who is too fat, that is understandable because he is a man and men are not attracted to women they are not attracted to.
If a woman doesn't want to sleep with a man who is too skinny, she is stupid and evil and too superficial and deserves to die alone.
>Men hate women who aren't good dogs.
Men hate women whom they can't trust. There is a huge difference between being ''a good dog'' as you put it and a woman that is loyal to her man and makes him feel loved. Cause that's what most men want above all, a woman they can trust by their side.
I live in an EU country so moving to Finland is piss easy anyway.
They hate you because you're a dry, sandy cunt with unattainable standards. For fuck's sake, you want a guy who has an awesome face, is fat as fuck, and possesses some sort of rigid set of personality characteristics that only you know about.
I'm happy that I'm a guy who would easily date an average looking girl regardless of body type (as long as she wasn't grossly overweight) and isn't a bitch. I couldn't imagine being a female with a mental checklist like yours.
I don't understand what you mean by "trust".
You're being dramatic.
A decent, pleasant-looking face is enough. I don't even understand what an "awesome" face would look like, inspiring awe isn't exactly something human faces are supposed to do.
>is fat as fuck
I don't have a set weight range, just no bones visible. Anything between pleasantly plump and morbidly obese is fine as long as he's mobile and happy where he is.
>some sort of rigit set of personality characteristics
While I agree about that, I wouldn't think not being violent, narcissistic, abusive, jealous or actively hateful towards me is too much to ask. Nor how it's any more than you do.
You're rather chunky. I can see why you'd rather date a chunky guy. The average Eurofag is probably skinny as hell. I'm 5'10 and 160 pounds and would be considered "Joe average" here in the USA.
>Why can't I tolerate sex with another person at all?
Because you're not in love with anyone, you dip. I've known women who couldn't orgasm with anyone until they found the "love of their life." It's a common problem.
As far as I've understood the healthy female BMI range is between 18.5 and 25, and being at 21 I'd be within the range of medical "normal".
Finland is among the fatter european countries, but the idea that european countries are "skinnier" than the US doesn't mean that a vast majority of people would be underweight, or everyone would be thinner on average, just that the ratio of fat-people-to-thin-people is different.
I don't get odd looks for being my size in Finland.
In that case I am sorry you've been abused in the past and that it's ruined your view of the entire female sex this bad.
What do you suggest I do? We're currently going through all the thousand reasons why I deserve to die alone.
>In that case I am sorry you've been abused in the past and that it's ruined your view of the entire female sex this bad.
I haven't been abused or whatever. You just asked me what trust means and I answered you.
I make my girlfriend orgasm in 60 seconds. I spread her pussy out and rub her clit in circles with my finger gently and when she orgasms a load of vagina juice leaks out and then she's in this hysterical fit of begging for my dick.
>goes down on me, feels amazing
>ask if I can grind against his face, he says sure
>end up giving him a sore jaw, chapped lips, and an overstretched tongue
>tfw feels bad, but at least I got cummies
I don't like the way muscles look and feel. Muscle isn't soft in the same way. I want soft.
Oh, alright. I just didn't want to pull an Not All Men on you. But I'm not like that and most women are not like that.
I'm not really fit, but I work to do some lifting at my job so I'm not all jelly. I'm this fag: >>26328601
Also, I really had no idea what the average weight was for a woman since I never really discussed weight with any of my ex girlfriends. They were all average weight, but chunky girls can be cute, too.
Dude, just get out more. Go to the pub and live a little or something. If you're in university, come out of your shell and talk to people. I'm just picturing you as some average looking blonde or some shit and I can't understand how you're having trouble finding a guy.
>Go to the pub and live a little or something.
I can't stand sex sober and I can't stand getting drunk enough to fuck anymore.
>If you're in university, come out of your shell and talk to people.
there is no university in my town, but I'm trying to get into vocational school
>I'm just picturing you as some average looking blonde or some shit
That's pretty much it but I did shave my head a while ago. Realised I like it like this.
I want to sum this insane thread up. OP is:
-an intersectional feminist
-who fucked all kinds of men for booze as a kid
-who hates male arousal, hates men, and still expects to be loved by one who'll fuck once a month
-and yet still believes being a strong feminizy wymnyzy emancipated woman has helped her get ahead in life
finland what the FUCK
>-an intersectional feminist
I aknowledge that racism and sexism can exist at the same time and that I, as a white girl, have it pretty easy. I wasn't aware that that is a bad thing.
>-who fucked all kinds of men for booze as a kid
18-19-year old isn't really a kid
>-who hates male arousal, hates men, and still expects to be loved by one who'll fuck once a month
I hate the men who think they are entitled to me for sexual services for nothing or next to nothing in return.
>-and yet still believes being a strong feminizy wymnyzy emancipated woman has helped her get ahead in life
I don't believe being hard-headed and independent has helped me get ahead in life. I believe it makes me incompatible to a non-feminist society, and I keep flipping a coin on whether it's easier to kill myself or the world around me.
I can't be a good dog. I would if I could but I can't so I won't.
I need disgusting amounts of alcohol to sedate myself enough for sex. I don't see where I contradicted myself concerning that.
I've tried that, but I can't. I just can't bring myself to being attracted to women. Not even trans women, the "she" pronoun itself and alone kills my interest.
It just made me so unhappy. I kept trying to grow my hair long and kept getting bored of it and cutting it short and trying to grow it long and bleach it blonde and then getting bored and dying it dark purple, back and forth and back and forth until I got sick of it and shaved it off.
And I like it like this.
Personally tho, I think she needs to find a guy who really makes her feel like a girl.
most nord guys are so polite it comes off as obsequious. No girl feels like a girl when her man is submitting to her. She thinks "I know I suck, and if this guy is submitting to me he HAS to be worse than me, and FUCK THAT SHIT"
She wants to find some dude who's so awesome that she WANTS and TRUSTS him to run her life for her, WITHOUT ABUSING that trust.
this is what women generally want.
You whored yourself out for alcohol to random people you physically loathed and now associate sex with a drunken act you must dissociate yourself from. Good going. You ruined sex for yourself forever.
I bet some of those men were muscular and skinny so now you're completely turned off from those body types since it gives you flashbacks or some shit.
You don't need a boyfriend, you need a psychiatrist who can treat your depression and whatever other issues that may be comorbid.
No, sorry, I'll rather have my head cut off to have a dude try to dominate me. if someone tries to dominate me I can assure you I am going to go full self-defense mode and bite him in the throat.
You hate sex, yet are attracted to fat, submissive men who will not have sex with you. I suggest looking for some sort of asexual community if you don't want to seek out therapy.
>unless I want them to.
you dumb cunt, that's what i fucking said
you have to find someone who makes you WANT THEM TO RUN YOUR LIFE, and then you have to LET HIM, and HOPE he doesn't fuck you over.
if you tried to bite me i'd knock you the fuck out and so would any self respecting male, get fucking real
>For fuck's sake I just want to stop feeling like shit for 5 fucking minutes.
try meditation , it helps relax
>WANT THEM TO RUN YOUR LIFE
>HOPE he doesn't fuck you over.
That sounds worse than death.
I don't understand how that differs from a completely normal relationship.
>you had that
Do you really want an extensive list of every single thing I didn't like about my ex?
Every single one?
Because that's going to take all day.
Thank you. I'd forgotten meditation is a thing. It's not euphoria but I guess it'll do.
I am a soft/overweight guy with no bones visible as you described a very handsome face, a great personality and able to come over there easily. I have all the things you want in a man from what you've said so far. Would you date me? And if not, care to explain why not?
I know why I myself wouldn't date you but satisfy my curiosity for a bit.
Let me guess: he tried to have sex with you some time during those two years? Newsflash: normal people consider sex to be the ultimate show of affection because normal people don't use it as some bargaining chip in order to get free alcohol from strangers who probably ravaged your body. Two people who are deeply in love with each other climaxing simultaneously is a great experience for a normal person, but someone like you considers it disgustingly repulsive.
You're so messed up that your ex probably didn't even have an ugly face--it just looked ugly to you since you're so mentally fucked.
>Women not orgasacumming in the year of our lord 20172K
>Probably doesn't lift
>I don't know if I'd need an explanation why I'm not good enough for a full judgement.
I don't mind your problems, but there are a couple of things about you that bother me. One is easily fixed but I don't know if I can get over the other one.
He was ten years older than me and acted like a little kid. He's the kind of a guy who'll stick a finger into your mouth when you yawn, every fucking time. He was full of that kind of annoying little things that he thought were funny and just would not understand that "stop that" means "never do that again".
He looks like the ginger mashup of Russel Crowe and Peter Dinklage, and he really, really would have needed braces growing up. I'm not exceptionally tall but he was only up to my shoulder.
He used the words "white" and "american" interchargeably. He'd grab my leg when it fell asleep no matter how many times I told him to not do that because it feels fucking awful when someone does that.
He was extremely jealous and had anxiety fits when I went out with two female friends and one of their boyfriend, or accepted a job with a male employee. He explained to me that all his previous girlfriends had cheated on him, and that somehow just was some kind of an original sin that I was supposed to suffer for.
He thinks Family Guy is funny.
Sex with him was tolerable, since he has the smallest penis I have ever seen in the wild, and he only wanted it maybe once per month. We still had somewhat of a silent agreement that it was OK for him to get me drunk enough to fuck whenever he had the need.
Sex was the least of our problems.
I used to have this problem where I would try for an hour and nothing. You gotta get yourself in the mood a lot of the time because you need a lubricant. Try just touching and groping yourself, listening or watching porn, getting comfortable, and being patient. Masturbate for the pleasure of how it feels and not the orgasm and it will eventually come to you.
She basically let men have their way with her in order to score alcohol in the past and they treated her like a piece of worthless meat. Now she hates sex.
Her problems run far deeper than that.
Feel free to elaborate.
Not a medical micropenis. Enough that I was surprised at it the size the first time I saw it. I don't remember details, I wasn't sober for most of the time.
Not wanting to raise someone else's manchild makes me a nightmare now?
I would like to point out that these men did not buy me alcohol. I bought my own alcohol, a dude just always showed up from somewhere to pick up what was left.
At that point, I was usually just too drunk to care. It was easier to go along than make my way home.
He sounds a bit annoying, but a lot of that stuff is pretty minor. Also, you just sound intolerable. See:
>Sex with him was tolerable, since he has the smallest penis I have ever seen in the wild, and he only wanted it maybe once per month. We still had somewhat of a silent agreement that it was OK for him to get me drunk enough to fuck whenever he had the need.
I feel really bad for that guy and I couldn't imagine being with a woman that hated me physically, sexually, and emotionally. Poor dude. I bet you put him through hell.
Because he loved me.
I figured he's my only shot at this and I'll never find someone who'd want me again, so it was best to just grit your teeth and carry on, make the relationship work no matter what.
it took two years before I realised dying alone is better than a lifetime with him.
Or well, to be more precise, I had dumped him about once or twice per month for about a year already and he had always whined and begged me back until one day I just did not yield.
Imagine trying to abandon someone else's kid to a trailway station, except that he keeps following you around and bawling and begging for you to not leave him.
I am not going to deny in any way that I fucked him over and what I did to him was criminal.
my only defense is that I was 19 and I'd never had a real boyfriend before. I didn't know what I was getting into, I thought I could learn to endure him eventually. It didn't occur to me that I'd break his heart.
Does it help in any way at all that I aknowledge that what I did was monstrous and that I regret doing it? if I could go back to the first moment we started talking, I wouldn't have done any of it.
>Feel free to elaborate.
Fine. First of all your shaved head. Just as you like a soft guy with a handsome face I also want my girl to have at least chin length hair. Whatever color that might be. I don't really care.
And second (and the real problem here), a girl that has been with lots of men before is a turn off in general. I don't expect or want a virgin but a high partner count isn't really appealing.
It is a damn shame though cause I really wouldn't mind dating you otherwise.
to be honest I have literally zero interest into a guy who has a problem with how I wear my hair or whether I have any, or the things I've done before I met him.
I already tried pretending to be someone I'm not to make a relationship work. It didn't work.
Not really. It sounds like you projected all of your hatred for men onto a weak target and got your kicks fucking with him and breaking up with him over and over and over for years. Since you always took him back, he probably sat there agonizing during that week apart from the relationship while praying to himself that you'd come back around and love him again. But you never actually loved him at all, of course.
Man, I've been single for awhile, but reading stuff like that really makes me want to avoid women altogether. I had an ex like you when I was younger and I'm not even a bad looking guy.
nobody gives a fuck about your shitty vagina
You don't even believe that this makes up for what you did. You expect me to believe that shit? You're a fucking awful person. Stop acting like a slimy bitch and own up to your shit.
You broke his heart because it was convenient for you.
He would whine and beg and whine and beg and whine and beg until I took him back. Every single time when I left him I made him swear he wouldn't contact me again - a few times I treatened suicide if he would, I was just so sick of never being free of him again - and every time he did.
I regret breaking his heart but to be perfectly honest his life was ruined long before he made me involved in it.
>tfw submissive who specializes in making girls with stubborn orgasms feel comfy and loved and relaxed and sexy, so that they can get off
>tfw there's a whole weird esoteric art to getting girls to chill out and not think you're a) bored, b) annoyed, c) turned off by them, e) ten thousand other fucking things
>tfw once you finally get inside their head and psychically imprint on them that they can really just lie back and have a good time, it's the most gratifying thing ever
>tfw weird fetishes
I feel bad for chicks. Men are cartoonishly bad at understanding this shit, nine times out of ten. Just from what I've seen.
He knew from the start that I didn't love him like that. I told him that. He said that he doesn't care, for as long as I let him make me happy. I thought we could make it work, I really did, until I realised that being with him actively prevented me from ever being happy, and that I wouldn't spend a lifetime in misery for his sake.
I am not a good dog.
Okay. What do you want me to do about it? Call him and tell him I want to make it work and get married into that hell?
Your world view on everything is warped. You think men think of women as dogs, you evaluate power from the perspective of a man and write off the inherent strength of women, you group the word mother with the words docile and submissive, and you're so dug into your perspective and so sure if your take on things that there is almost no way out of it for you. Egocentric
At the time, I meant it. I was just so sick of living in the same world as he does, I truly would have rather died.
It doesn't matter. My ideal kind of sex is painless, rare, and over quickly.
you know you can just not fucking answer him.
You don't have to make him not talk to you. Just ignore him. I've ignored goofy bitches who text me every day for MONTHS. Eventually they give up if you don't give em anything to work with. Stonewall, motherfucker.
jesus christ these slimy bitches never take responsibility for their fucking actions.
Stop whoring for attention and just end your fucking misery already you stupid miserable cunt
>she's going to portray herself as the victim
No, I haven't? I let several guys fuck me because I didn't care, and that was my fault. I let a human trainwreck smash me because I was curious to see what'd happen and that was my fault.
All my problems are my fault and I aknowledge that.
I was weak. It was my own weakness that I gave in, let myself sink back into the delusion that we could ever, ever be happy. I was weak and listened to him and his despair and pitied him.
I was weak for pitying him and I hate myself for it. I was the one who stick her hand into the fire and I have nobody to blame but myself.
I aknowledge that.
I never said I did not.
Okay so you should probably exercise more than whatever you do now
Look into supplements for blood flow
Look into supplements/herbs that have aphrodisiac qualities for women
Look into things that slightly raise testosterone in women, that's supposed to help.
Try to be relaxed, not peruse relaxation through orgasm
Level/ pelvic floor/whatever the fuck they are called exercises, do those
Some illegal drugs like mdma can for sure help make you more aroused, they say pot helps girls with this more than guys, there are also drugs that help you be more relaxed but be wary because these drugs can make orgasm harder.
Watch pron or read erotic stuff or whatever, make sure you are really horny before trying
Stick something in vagina touching g spot and then focus on clit with vibrator
Other stuff maybe I dunno
I want you to shut the fuck up and stop whoring some motherfucker's broken heart so that you can GET ATTENTION ON AN ANONYMOUS FLEMISH SHOE POLISHING IMAGEBOARD
go clean your toilet or something, fuck
Women don't need to orgasm to get pregnant. For this reason, women never evolved to orgasm easily.
And honestly, men shouldn't really care that much. There's nothing they can do if their ho is broken.
I think they have the ability because it helps with childbirth pain and orgasm contractions draw fluid in towards the uterus so it isn't required but helps conception and eases childbirth so it doesn't take as long possibly harming mother or child.
>I already tried pretending to be someone I'm not to make a relationship work. It didn't work.
That's fine. After all, I don't think I could just overlook everything you did in the past either. And trying to force myself to do so would probably just make me sad in the end.
You'll always have to make some compromises though. Even if you think you've found the perfect person. Although it seems like you don't even want to do some minor ones.
>dick like a horse
ok OP, the problem is that you hate yourself and you just wont let yourself feel good for a while.
The other thing is that you are not approachable, one thing is faking who you are, another thing is respecting the other person. It seems like you don't give a shit to anyone, so try training yourself to seeing the good points in people, funny enough it might help with you hating yourself
My gf cums freqeuntly. and hard. It helps to have a big dick, natural rhythm and an idea of what she likes.
Also helps to have her really worked up before hand.
But you? You sound like a frigid bitch, so maybe stop looking for satisfaction in an arena that you have no fight in
>training yourself to seeing the good points in people
I do see good in people.
Okay I understand it might sound like I'm downright villifying my ex here, but all I wanted to do was to highlight that we truly were incompatible.