Pumping Iron

>>26310566
Being /fit/ is annoying as fuck. Every time I go out, some fag will come up to me and comment on it, like "Hurr you're so big, do you work out a lot?"
No shit, yes I do work out, it's not as if I hadn't noticed and I've heard this a million times already, shut the fuck up, it's not something of note to me. Probably similar to how really tall people get the same thing about their height, "You're so tall!" No shit, I know that. What about it? Nothing? Okay, bye.

>>26310566
I've lifted for a year now and I'm still weak as FUCK.

Hit that 1/2/3/4 OP
Then work on joining the 1000 club
Best thing any robot can do

>>26310618

I get this with family a lot especially the ones who haven't seen me, since i started working out i felt like the average female is nothing to me anymore and i deserve more. Litrelly don't even bat an eye at some plain thin female. I'm not afraid to walk off mid conversation if they started it, or take out my iPod and listen to music even if i can get into her pants.

Regardless, being /fit/ makes me feel like a king and i don't give one fuck what people might think, say or anything else. Just walk with my shoulders back, head straight, posture pristine and mind my own business.

>>26310657

Because you're a moron with a shit diet.

>>26310657
>tfw when I outlift most of my friends but I look like a fucking skeleton.

I wonder if my strenght comes from something else than muscles because I don't have any.

>>26310566

I've been working out at home for 10 weeks and I've only gone from 0 to 3 chinups. Well it's better than nothing

>>26310681
1/2/3/4/ is the 1000 club m8

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>>26311599
>I've been working out at home for 10 weeks and I've only gone from 0 to 3 chinups
>3 chinups
>10 weeks

What the fuck, i don't believe it. People like this should legitimately get their test levels checked.

This is women tier.

>Scared of going to the gym
>Scared of going to buy a barbell
>Don't want to make UPS deliver a fucking barbell
I have some dumbbells but everyone always shits on db workouts.

>>26312041
He's not trying.

>>26312102
>hes not trying
>and I've gone from 0-3 in 10 weeks

Are you autistic or just plain 'ol stupid, boy? If he was capable of pumping out more "she" would have mentioned.

I wouldn't even classify that butterfly as a man.

>>26312076
you can be a winner or a loser anon the choice is yours

>>26312128
Guess I'll just be myself.

>>26311599
I tried doing that for a whole summer since there's not a whole lot of exercises I can do (got a spinal deformity) and I could never do a single chin up. really disappointing.

>>26312102

Ive been doing it consistently 3x a week man

>>26310681
he never said it was.

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>>26312179
>Ive been doing it consistently 3x a week man

Just kill yourself.

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Glad to see another 6 foot + skinny fuck like myself make it. I am 6'2 150/160 and I hate being skinny. Went back to the gym for the first time in months. ( I've been in sports my whole life. ) and I felt weak. I did upper body and I know I can get stronger. You and other robots are my goals. I hope to gain around 20/30 pounds of muscle to get to my ideal size and weight.
>pic related. Me in hs

How do you feel about cleans , clean and jerks etc

>>26312076
i've had a barbell/misc weightlifting equipment delivered to my door. the UPS doesn't care. why would he? it's just another average day on the job.

>tfw you can't workout because your mindset is so incompatible with /fit/ bullshit.

>>26312194
what, should I do more?

>>26312216

Power-cleans and clean and jerks are in my routine, who the fuck has anything negative to say about compound exercises?

>>26311599
You've actually never worked out. This is why you're not progressing. Even if you do 3 chin-ups, that's not working out.

What kind of exercise should I do regularly of I want to be super skinny?

>>26312287
Try taking a cock up your ass at least twice a day, faggot.

>>26312310
Already doing that, isn't really helping

>>26310566
>Nothing but water and my chicken breast, vegetables, rice, oats, whole grain bread etc.. and the works.

How to spot the DYEL in 10 seconds or less

>>26311599
had a similar problem
went out to a gym and got a personal trainer
I learned what working out actually is, and I also learned there is no way for me to do it at home.

Try stepping into a gym or changing your environment. You will get better results.

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>>26312257
I have none. I was jw what you thought of them. I pref them as well. Do you do snatch at all ?

how long did you take till you started seeing real gains. Because I want to get the weight but still be fast
>pic related

>>26312287
Olympic lifts. Heavy (for you) weight , low # sets. also alot of food. yw

>>26312341
Yeah, how could you ever get weights at home? That's impossible.

>>26312273
>Even if you do 3 chin-ups, that's not working out
It is if that's your failure point, faggot

>>26312365
nice running form anon. Really good

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>>26312333
I don't know, that is a solid diet. But what we've seen so far is how a trip-fag's try to grab for the attention by "pretending" to be stupid.

Picture related, it's you.

>>>/fit/

Just go there and make both of our lives easier.

I recently got some weights for use at home; can't even bench press my bodyweight but currently at overhead press ~40kg max for 8 after about 2 weeks of starting.

I weigh around 82kg now. I hope to increase but will increasing this fast fuck me over? (keep in mind I'm usually running on little food).

>>26312397
Too many children like spill-canvas who pretend to lift because they watch people like un guk kim. Few months of /fit/ (Litrelly first day) i noticed about 80% of the people there actually don't even lift.

It's actually sort of a r9k 2.0 version.

>>26312386
>solid diet
>Listed like 5 foods
Fuck off.

>>26312341
Are you a shill for gyms or something?

>>26312435
>Listed 5 foods
>Doesn't have reading comprehension and missed the etc.. and the works.
>Excepted someone to list his complete diet, and even though it wasn't listed completely you sperged out

Here's your (you) attention-whore, drink some bleach.

Cheers lad.

>>26312386
You just had to respond to it, didn't you?

>>26312425
actually did you know. Someone who can beach their bodyweight and do double their weight in back squat is someone who is in good shape. Just fyi

keep working at it mang

>>26312457
To be fair, i enjoy seeing that trip-fag post. He is basically the r9k wannabe /fit/ clown who gives around advice he hears others preach but is as fit as a bag of potatoes.

>>26312455
>listed 5 bro foods
>completely oblivious that you don't need to comprise your diet completely of micro nutrient dense foods
>doesn't list any fat sources

DYEL

>>26310566
>6ft
>75kg
eww. Sounds like you need a Big Mac or two. Or five.

>>26313193
.t fatass

>>26312455
>>26312491
Both of you post timestamped full body shots or fuck off.

>>26312041

I have legit low test. It's hell trying to put on muscle.

I've moved from strength training to endurance training.

Should you do cardio before or after pumping iron?

>>26313442
>Should you do cardio before or after pumping iron?
Yes

>>26313548
That doesn't answer my question. Does it even matter if you do it before or after?

I had a 70kg ohp, 110kg bp 170kg back squat, 140kg front squat and a 220kg deadlift but then i got a brain tumour and had brain surgery now i havent lifted consistently in about a year and a half because i get headaches whenever i lift. ive been in the gym a few times and could still front squat 110kg but feelsweakman.jpg. at least i can still do a little bit of cardio

>>26313596
What kind of brain tumor? Will you be okay?

>>26313579
It doesn't really matter, as long as you don't slack off during your workout or cardio.

>>26312041

m8. going from nothing to chinups/pullups is a mother fucker. everyone on the planet has that problem.

make sure u do chin/pulls to failure then add negatives after them.

when i first started working out took me 5 months to get to 3x8

>>26312135

youre not being yourself though.

the real you talk about wants to buy a barbell and get fit.

the reptile part of your brain wants you to do nothing because you are still alive so it must be good.

dont listen to that faggot.

>>26313285

heres how to fix that senpai.

>go to doctor
>"i have low test"
>he runs some tests to find an answer
>"no you dont you faggot stop making excuses"

>>26312076
you'll get over going to gym and thinking that people are judging you etc (some probably are). the 'gymrats' or people you think are 'roiders' are some of helpful, just don't interrupt them during sets or take a squat/barbell rack for stupid shit like curling.
look up proper form for stuff before you go.. just start of 2 times a week at first and do light, stretch befroe hand... the first few weeks will hurt after going to gym, if you want to avoid that then build up slowly the amount of exercise you do and don't do it till failure, have a bit left in you and once you've gone for a while then start doing reps till failure.

just go there and get feel for times, usually around 11am or 2-4pm is when less people are there. any time after 5pm and it'll be the most

when i first started I was fat (had small manboobs) and couldn't do 1 pullup. i used to pullup machine most of the time and it took me like 2-3 months to not have to use it

after a while i got down to low-ish bodyfat, was at around 65-70kg and could do a 160kg squat (-/+ 2kg or so), 150kg deadlift and 85-90kg bench (can't remember bench). and compared to first starting i could hardly bench the bar properly, and started only at 40kg squats for 5 or so reps max, and same with deadlift...

once you go for a while you start seeing results and then that makes you want to go more. for me I first went because friends were into zyzz and 'aesthetics', but I started to like more powerlifting because I liked getting better and better weights and was more simple exercises.

also you get to see yoga pants bootys which was my favourite part of gym...

>>26313619
it was a pineal cyst. i had it removed and im mostly fine now

>tfw started 5x5 last week

Feels good man, really enjoying it. Gonna make it desu

Just wanted to remind any manlets who could be ITT, that lifting doesn't make you taller.

Also I have a reminder for dicklets. Lifting doesn't make your dick bigger.

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>>26310566
>Been lifiting for 1 year and a half
>still bench press only 70 kg 4x6

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pic related is me.
I've been "working out" since 2011.

I work out for a few months, make gains etc but than I lose motivation or get injured and stop for 6+ months.
I hate my body but I can't seem to change it, fuck me.

>>26314940
Kek what shitty routine are you even on

>>26313713
>go to the doc
>doc does tests
>have 306ng/dl of test
>oh anon you're completely fine, 300 and below is low test

>>26314965
sometimes sl sometimes ss.
This >>26314989 is also me

>>26314940
work on chest and upper body

i see alot of fat too go on runs. Lots of them

you have alot of work ahead.

>>26311664
You're retarded on a couple levels if this isn't bait

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>>26310566
>>55kg overhead press, 110kg squat, 140kg dead-lift, 80kg bench-press.
>>Weigh 75kg

>tfw I'm old as hell, never set my foot in a gym and can do all this

>>26311664
you're including the overhead press, that's wrong

1000 club is bench + squat + deadlift ( no ohp )

Whats a good cheap home gym setup?

I wanna start lifting without any normies taking pics of my fat ass.

>>26310566
How old is you my nig?

Vowed to start working out in the new year. Weighed myself, took all measurements, studied form videos, got myself all psyched up

Into February and I still have not started.

6'2, 165lb 30 year old lanklet btw

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>>26310566
You sound like some faggot who will give up at any moment. Try lifting for at least 2 years and come back to my board and don't go crying to /fit/ either, that's my board as well.

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>>26312076
The only people who shit on dumbbells are DYEL faggots who wanna inproperly lift by deadlifting, squats and bench. Oh, but they don't wanna squat.. or deadlift. Yeah, so just bench.


Anon, don't listen to those fucking morons. You definitely should, one day, be doing those 3 main lifts. Use your dumbbells, get a good routine going which'll target your muscles and build a foundation before going to the gym if you really are that terrified.

>>26310681
What is 1/2/3/4?

>>26311599
That isn't bad progress if you aren't losing weight. If you drop some pounds your chin-ups will skyrocket though.

>>26310566
Guys like you who brag about your "accomplishments" on /r9k/ because they would fail to impress anybody on /fit/. Those are not impressive. I could lift more than that when I was 15 and 68 kilograms. Now I deadlift 184 kilograms, bench 111, squat 156.

>tfw similar stats to OP wih slightly weaker bench and OHP
>tfw still look like a spooky skelly
>go to gym with friend once and load 2pl8 squat
>are you sure about that weight bro

>>26317070
The number of 45 lbs / 20 kg plates at one side of the barbell for overhead press, bench press, squat and deadlift.
So that's 60kg, 100kg, 140kg and 180kg.
That's all one rep maxes.

The op is a troll, but there are people like that out there. Working out would be awesome if it wasn't for gym 'bro's' pea cocking. They give the majority of gym goers a bad name.

6 months in here. gained 30 lbs of muscle. Squat went from 75 to 165. DL from 95 to 225. Bench from 75 to 135. Everyone still calls me a skinny lil shit and laugh in my face when I tell them I work out 8 hours a week and have perfect diet. Feels bad man.

I started off at 120lbs ~10% bf about 4 years ago. Up to 180lbs ~13% bf now. Arms started at 8", now at 15.5 relaxed, 16+ with a pump. Best lift so far has been a 440lbs deadlift.

>tfw injured my back a few months ago and still can't practice sports properly

My kinesiology sessions start by the end of the month. Hope it works.

I plateaued my OHP at 30kg, pathetic I know. I eat a lot, so could I be low test?

>>26317838
>tfw rotator cuff injury
no lifting since christmas 2014 and my shoulder still isn't 100% fine

>>26317784
Kilos or pounds?

>>26317875

Yeah but can you at least run and shit? I can't even go to indoor biking classes without my back aching at the end of the week.
I've hit rock bottom.

>>26318007
pounds. Those weights are 5x5 though (3x5 for DL) because I don't have a spotter and cant 1rm. I know it's still pathetic and all i've done so far was go from spooky skeleton to average but damn it feels like people call me skinny 5x as much as before.

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lifted for 3 years, still look like shit.

instead of being skinnyfat now i just look like this grotesque cave-troll thing

fuck i want steroids bad

>exercising hurts my whole life
>people, including family, universally give me shit for saying it hurts
>literally get pain for days from lifting >50lbs (25kg) with proper form, have felt like my leg was being ripped out of the socket after just moving heavy stuff less than 20 feet, hip sockets would knock during early winter
>can't even fucking use a normal computer mouse for an hour without elbow and shoulder fucking up
>brother has two disks replaced in his back, no cartilage on knees
>mother gets arthritis in her 30s
>brother, sister, and father have spinal issues, and they've known since I was like 5
I'm more mad just nobody fucking cared. They knew these problems existed and decided to tell me I'm a stupid piece of shit instead of taking me to a doctor.

>>26310618
Tall (6/4)and I train at the gym (120kg and bench above my bodyweight for reps).

You have to be aware that these comments are signs of admiration. This is literally the reason you go to the fucking gym stupid ass, so people can compliment your physique.

You literally sound like one of those entitled feminist bitches that walk around in slutgear, get compliments for it, then complain that they're getting exactly what they wanted but didn't get it from the kinds of people they wanted.

>>26312041
Have you considered that he is maybe heavier than your twink ass? I weigh a lot and adding reps to bodyweight pullups takes about as long as adding reps to maximal effort lifts.

People who don't weigh much usually put reps on their pullups quickly because of nervous system adaptation. If you're 250lbs it will be much harder for you to add reps to your pullups compared to someone who is only 150lbs.

Proportional strength also decreases linearly with increased bodymass. The strongest men in the world are not proportionally the strongest men in the world.

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>benching for 2.5 years
>started with bar +20lbs
>still cannot do 2 plates

>>26318823
How much do you weigh? How tall are you? What's your routine?

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Who /candito linear program/ here?
Think its the best program ive done so far.

>>26318870
im 5'8 and a fatass, 205

i started out as a small guy, then i fell for the bodybuilding forums permabulk meme, spent 2 years eating like a fatass and lifting

but my chest never felt it i guess. i can pull considerably more with my lats than i can push with my chest

i dont really have a routine i just go to the gym whenever i can which is sometimes one time in a week, sometimes 3-4 times. usually train one muscle group each visit

>>26318950
Get on a stewngth program.
Texas method would be good foryou.

>>26319001
will a strength program help me maintain mass on a cut? i have to lose like 30-40lbs to get to 10% bodyfat

while my chest is weak i got a lot wider around the shoulders and back. from the back i look big, from the side and front i look deflated. im rowing a heavier dumbbell than i use to bench. usually kneel on the bench and row a 100.

i've been incline benching a lot lately and on that i put 175lbs for 5-7

>>26319068
Strength programs are good foe mass. Downside is that on a cut you will lose some regardless of.routine.

I'm trying to do starting strength but I can't add weight at the levels they want you to. The routine calls for you to add 5 pounds to your squats and bench presses every workout but I can only add 5 pounds once every two weeks or so. Am I just fucking up?

If I add too much weight then I either start cheating and my form sucks or I just can't do it. I am proud that I've been sticking to my routine though, I didn't do shit for about a year but I've gone to the gym 3 times a week since January 1

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>tfw bench 1pl8
>squat 2pl8
>deadlift 3pl8

Don't even know what my over head press is, but I'm sure its absolute shit, but I'm really happy with the progress I've made.

>>26319285
Whats your stats, could be diet. Getting enough sleep? Enough energy (carbs) before workout?

If youre failling reps constantly drop 10% on said lift and work up again.

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Herniated a disc. Daily pain in the leg.
Watch out for back pain, there's a big chance you're damaging your discs.

Pain after squatting, painf after heavy legpressing, pain after cable rows, watch out for those

That's pretty sweet OP but I'm fucked beyond recognition. I used to run a lot and became t rez modenow I'm a fat shit at 330 pounds with tree trunk muscle legs but a blanket tier upper body and bad gyno.

If I get the job Tuesday I'm gonna be able to get a gym membership (no space or safety to work out outside) and buy decent food. Gonna cut down as much as possible to 230 ish over the course of a year or two, then bulk my upper body and start running again. Also tried soylent, thought it was a meme, but I feel good after using it and its fucking expensive though.

>>26318436
Fuck, fuck;
The disease at least has a name?

>>26318823
Generally if you're eating well and can't improve, you're missing intensity in your lifting. A lot of people won't push themselves when exercising and so they see minimal improvement, and it can be difficult to push yourself, especially since you may think you're already doing it. One way to tell us have a trainer for a day or a buddy and have them push you, since the social situation is more motivating than internal will when you're exhausted. If you're sore the next day, you probably have an intensity issue, or you hurt yourself because you misunderstand the meaning of intensity

I bet you look like a proper prick

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>>26319555
wait, being sore the next day is bad?

>>26310566
i will be honest your life sounds like garbage

>>26319367
I'm 6'3" - 155 skinny with a tad bit of body fat
bench-105
squat-115

I think I'm getting enough sleep. I work out on my day's off so I usually get about 8-10 hours those nights. I don't drink anything but water and I cut sugar and caffeine out of my diet a long time ago. I do drink a good amount of beer but not everyday

>>26319575
No, it usually means you've done more than usual, so you feel it when you start out and once in a while when you move up in weight. Or you hurt yourself, although the feelings are different people somehow confuse them so it's easier to group the two

>>26314940
Without drugs, we only get a fuller version of who we where before.
I have a massive chest, even before lifting. It is genetics.

Try steroids, grow a little bit, and then stop using and keep lofting. You will maintain the miscle gained.

Tfw dl been going up steadily and now on 120kg but bench been stuck on 50kg for months now

>>26319619
>i'll just do one cycle, come off, keep half my gains and sail off into the sunset

kek

that's what everyone says but everyone i know who does it has no plan on stopping because the gains are just too good, and losing it would crush them

>>26319622
Fuck, are you doing heavy setsmpr volume training?

>>26319655

What

Orig comment

>>26319652
I understand, and don't want to open that door either. How about creatine?

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>>26312491
originality/truth as it finest : the picture

>>26317784
>gained 30 lbs of muscle

No you didnt, just say you gained 30 pounds.

>>26319655

I'm doing starting strength. If you say it's a meme workout I will hunt you down and perform keyhole surgery on your throat with my fucking house key.

>>26319681
Sorry,
>>Fuck, are you doing heavy sets or volume trainning?

>>26319683
you know, i don't even think you would keep half the gains if you came off

if the only thing you change is adding drugs, when the drugs are gone then whatever they did for you will be gone too

those big guys who are lean and big and impressive, even in clothing? theyre on the ride for life, when they stop they'll look like 2015 arnold

>>26319736

Doing what ss tells me to do. Max 1 rep dl is about 135kg Squat is 100kg but BP is only 50

>>26319790
Are you lean? Eating lots of protein and carbs, even a little above maintenace?
Be objective, if ss is failing you in the chest department, try other stuff, like volume training. It can be very painfull and hard, but might be what works for you in that department

>>26316808
So sexy mr snoopy

>>26318950
>i dont really have a routine i just go to the gym whenever i can which is sometimes one time in a week, sometimes 3-4 times. usually train one muscle group each visit
Well there's your problem. You aren't consistent. That's why your bench is stalling. Do what >>26319001 said. More importantly though, keep a high consistent training frequency(like 3x per week). I am currently doing the texas method for my bench and I'm benching 265 for 5 reps after just over a year lifting.

>>26319068
Lifting weights will reduce the amount of muscle you lose on cuts, but there is no training method that is better than the other. Taking leucine also has been proven to shown a slight reduction in muscle protein breakdown as well.
>i've been incline benching a lot lately and on that i put 175lbs for 5-7
Forget about accessories. Focus on performing the lift you want to improve more. Also, check your form. Make sure you're pinning your shoulders back on the bench. This reduces the range of motion and moment arm placed on the deltoid while slightly increasing the moment arm on the pectoral muscle.

>>26311544
Unholy magic animates skeletons senpai

>>26319321
wtf is alll this talk of plates? I see this all the time on /fit/. different plates have different weights goddamn how hard is it to just say how much you can lift in lb and kilograms

>>26320610
1 plate = 20kg/45lbs plate

>>26318637
Maybe he's doing it to better himself, not others' impression of him.

>>26311544
Nervous system adaptation. The reason behind this is to prevent your muscles from tearing themselves clean off the bones they're attached to.

This is also why other limiting mechanisms like the stretch reflex and myostatin exist as well. To prevent your muscles from stretching to the point of damage and to prevent them from growing to the point where it detriments your health(uses up unnecessary amounts of energy, impedes movement, etc...)

If you want to combat this to a certain degree, it's really a matter of adding more and more volume to your routine. Although there is nothing that can truly conquer bad genetics.

>>26310566
>constantly wear shorts and singlets when i go out in public, love showing my body and legs off.
so you did great until you decided to be a faggot

>>26319537
My father's spine issue is just a common "human" issue supposedly:

http://www.spine-health.com/conditions/spine-anatomy/all-about-l5-s1-lumbosacral-joint

The cartilage/joint issues I don't even know. My sister got hit in the chest once, and it literally tore some cartilage in her sternum area.

>>26319440
Soylent's not that expensive compared to normal food. A footlong subway Spicy Italian (40g protein, 1000+ cal) is $6.25 these days, compared to the Soylent which is like $5/1000cal. And Subway is literally one of the most nutrient dense foods you can buy if you pile on the veggies.

If you're finding meat <$3/lb and veges less than $1-2/lb, those are good, but if you're eating pre-made food, it's preposterously expensive. Even protein powders are expensive compared to cheap meats.

P.s: when looking for meats, look for ones that are 80+ g of protein per lb. ground turkey, pork roast, tilapia (though it tends to be more expensive)

>>26320640
This is the excuse of people in denial. It is human instinct to pursue validation from our peers. It's what drives any kind of progression anyone has and is at the root of all desires.

People like you are the kinds of people who constantly say "I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks" as an attempt to assert your independence.

The only possible explanation for someone going to the gym to train is either because they take direct pleasure from it (masochism, fixation on the activity, etc..) or because they enjoy the benefits it bestows upon how they appear to everyone else. There is no incentive to better oneself outside of this domain. You also don't need to be muscular to be healthy and feel good, so pursuit of health is a non-factor.

>>26320866
>You also don't need to be muscular to be healthy and feel good, so pursuit of health is a non-factor.
>encouraging obesity

>>26321100
What was the point in posting that horrible strawman?

>>26321223
It's not a strawman. Claiming that one can't enjoy exercising because it keeps you healthy is literally retarded. I hope you were shitposting and not actually believing that.

>>26320610
>>26320638
>1 plate = 20kg/45lbs plate
on both ends of the bar*

>>26321259
>It's not a strawman
Claiming it is not is not an argument for it not being a strawman. You equate muscularity with health as if they are synonymous. Fat fucks that lift huge things are muscular but also on the verge of having a heart attack.

>Claiming that one can't enjoy exercising because it keeps you healthy is literally retarded.

Appeal to the stone fallacy. What's your actual argument against what I said?

>I hope you were shitposting and not actually believing that.

I hope you're just baiting and not actually mentally handicapped.

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>tfw the body you want to have is unattainable and unsustainable without drugs

trust me, i know it is. I want to be huge and lean. i want bowling ball shoulders, a back shaped like a really wide V, big, striated pecs, monstrous tree trunk arms and tom platz wheels all while being striated and vasculat

only a few other people know this shitty feel because everyone wants to be ottermode

>>26321357
Being a healthy weight feels better than being obese.

>You equate muscularity with health as if they are synonymous.
I never said anything about muscularity.

>Fat fucks that lift huge things are muscular but also on the verge of having a heart attack.
Fat fucks that lift huge things are muscular but also on the verge of having a heart attack, are by definition not healthy, and the exercises they are doing do not make them healthier.

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>>26320866
>being this tarded

>>26321404
Have you ever thought about WHY you want to look like that though?

>>26321423
i know exactly why. its because i was bullied growing up and made to feel small, i want my turn to be big now

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>>26319710
Wow good job responding to him you fucking dipshit

>>26321448
>>26321416
Do you have multiple computers going or what? Shitposting on the internet is no way to spend your time.

Are squats and barbell exercises really mandatory for any kind of gains?

I don't give a fuck about powerlifting and I know that I will never put in the effort to continue doing it. I just want a lean, toned, tight body. I know I'll never be able to maintain any real gains anyway. Is that really impossible through dumbells and machines?

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>>26321467
>reading shitposts

At least I'm a creator

>>26321504
https://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/dumbbell-only-home-or-gym-fullbody-workout.html

Even just keeping a set of dumbbells in your room that you can spend a few minutes a day on will help improve your physique.

>>26321506
Are you implying my post wasn't original?

>>26321504
You can get slow lean gains with dumbells. You can get a barbell cheap, a bench or weights would literally cost much more.

>>26310566
>have those same lifting numbers for 1x5
>look the same as I did 6 months ago even though I put on 20lb
>still have 14 in. arms

Being 6'3 fucking sucks for lifting

>>26321414
>>You equate muscularity with health as if they are synonymous.
>I never said anything about muscularity.
>>26321100 ">You also don't need to be muscular to be healthy and feel good, so pursuit of health is a non-factor.
>encouraging obesity"

You implied here that me saying being muscular is not necessary for health was me encouraging people to be obese, when it is a fact that being muscular does not guarantee health and people can be healthy without being muscular. You are by association speaking about muscularity. Please tell me you aren't this stupid.

>>Fat fucks that lift huge things are muscular but also on the verge of having a heart attack.
>Fat fucks that lift huge things are muscular but also on the verge of having a heart attack, are by definition not healthy, and the exercises they are doing do not make them healthier.
Right. That's what I said >>26320866
"You also don't need to be muscular to be healthy and feel good".

Are you, alright?

>>26321446
You don't need to be freaky to be imposing. You can attain levels of strength and muscle that are intimidating. Getting jacked out of your mind also will not make up for being short, trust me.

>>26321615
but i want to be a freak

all my life i have been unnoteworthy, unmentionable. i want some kind of extreme thing that will put me on the radar for once

who says being jacked as shit has to "make up" for anything? i'm 5'10 myself and i would rather be 5'8 and look like the olympia winner phil heath than be 6'2 and ottermode

>>26321583
Not being muscular does not mean not being a meathead. Not being muscular means not being muscular. Someone could be only able to lift 30lbs, but that doesn't mean they aren't muscular.

>>26321571
Yeah it sucks but if you keep working at it and get a nice body you will look fucking amazing. It's more work but you'll have a height advantage over people who look similar. As a 6'2 bro I know your pain but trust me it just gets better

>>26321531
Thanks, I think I'll try those

I'm just sick of squats. I know I'm doing them wrong, I know I need a spotter, I don't have any friends I can bring, I don't want to talk to people and I just want an exercise routine that works for me

>>26321670
If you want to get noticed wear nicer clothes and get a haircut. Or take fucking gear and stop complaining.

>>26321571
I know what you mean. I played basketball in high school, I weight trained, I lifted 3x every week and I was still skinnymode all throughout high school and college. I'm 6'3" but my wingspan is close to 7' so my arms are especially hard to put any weight on

>>26310566
I have started SS anon, what can you recomend? Can you post a pic? I am gonna make it?

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>>26321571
>being 6'3 sucks for lifting

tell that to George Leeman you fucking crybaby

>>26312128
Gymrats are usually big losers though

Prove me wrong

>>26321770
Its called steroids you nogains manlet

>>26321680
>Not being muscular does not mean not being a meathead.

The fuck does this have to do with anything? Like it's wrong because by definition a meathead is someone who is muscular, but the definition of what a meathead is is irrelevant to my argument.

>Someone could be only able to lift 30lbs, but that doesn't mean they aren't muscular.

This is a continuum fallacy. I made an example that a fat ass who is muscular is still muscular yet unhealthy to prove the disjunction between health and higher than necessary muscularity, which by definition is how we define "being muscular". Me not being extremely precise in what I was trying to explain does not falsify my point whatsoever.

You're grabbing at straws here.

>>26321827
he didnt even take them until he started the cut

all that mass was built through relentless lifting and eating, as you can see with the double chin on the left pic

only used gear to keep it while he cut

>>26310566

Were you really a lanklet, or did you just not have a lot of muscle? What were your measurements? Width of shoulders, wrist circumference, width of rib cage, etc.

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>>26321866
So cute how naive you are. I bet you buy test boosters as well.

>>26321866
>only used gear to keep it while he cut
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHFAGGOTAHAHHAAHAHHHAAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>>26321670
Do you really think 5'10" is manlet status? Someone fell for the memes

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>tfw you're 19 and nowhere near as big as arnie at 19

>>26322061
>>26321930
everywhere ive looked says that he didnt start doing shit until he was ready to cut

its not really that unbelievaable. guy was like 380 pounds benching 405 for 5. only a little more than his bodyweight. if he tried to cut without the juie he would have ended up like ottermode, would have lost a ton of mass. he started using it to prevent muscle loss on his like year long cut lol

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>>26322105
>mfw he started injecting test at 15

>>26322111
So what you are saying is you can look like a fat fuck natty? No shit. Nobody denied this.

>>26310566
Nice man. I just started working out 3 weeks ago and i was really happy with myself last week i managed to go up weight in biceps, tris, legs calves. i hope in a years time to look hectic as fuck

>>26322203
he made the mistake of starting out the bulk already a fatass though

it's just an example of the raw power and size that can be built without drugs. if he started bulking up from a lean point, it wouldnt have been so bad and he probably would have been able to cut and stay natty not having so much weight to lose

>>26322245
>if he started bulking up from a lean point, it wouldnt have been so bad and he probably would have been able to cut and stay natty not having so much weight to lose
Yes, he would just have ended up looking a lot smaller without any roids.

Cutting and bulking doesn't actually work for natties, unless you have just started lifted and are very thin.

>>26316660
you in the UK?

>>26318905
Yup gone from a sub 1 plate sqwaat to 1.5 plate sqwaat in about 2 months.