I get it now guys, I really do.
After a lot of reflection the past few days, I think I finally understand.
Girls are not the problem. Chads are not the problem. Normies are not the problem. Society is not the problem.
It's us. That's all it comes down to, us.
I'm not even mad at girls anymore. They're just doing what any single one of us would do....taking the best they can get.
Unfortunately we are all broken. Our best is probably nothing. Hell, even the average looking guys here are so broken psychologically that no girl in their right mind would have them.
It's time we look in the mirror and just accept it. I'm sure some of you done have. I am now accepting it.
YOU HAVE THE BURNING SPIRIT DON'T YOU
DEEP DOWN, YOU HAVE THE FLAME OF TESTOSTERONE SILENTLY BURNING
IT ASKS YOU TO DO BETTER. TO NOT WALLOW IN FILTH. RISE UP FROGGY. RISE UP. YOU FEEL THE DRIVE. RISE UP FROGGY. RISE UP.
I got a huge inferiority complex and only look average at best - im not going to find a gf if I continue like this and im well aware of it.
But it is really my fault: Even if I do attract a girl she will loose interest because I open my heart to her. I do this because Im in constant fear of what my friends will do if I say/do certain things...
Why would sb even want me?
I am or atleast seem to be boring as fuck
Like most people with inferiority complex Im arrogant and thus annoying to deal with
I look only average so I have no chance to become a token bf at least
We need to stop hating ourselves, I know that many of you will feel the same
i have been turned down before. i have been broken up with. being a manlet doesnt help.
but i'm so broken inside that i wouldnt know what to do if some girl was genuinely interested.
> so broken psychologically that no girl in their right mind would have them
> What really wrecked us, more than anything else, was our self-doubt. We stopped being able to believe in ourselves.
these feels .. I don't want to feel
and I don't know how to accept it without increasing my raging self-loathing and hatred of society
>tfw I was thinking about this all day at work
holy shit its like we're all connected to the same consciousness. Yes it clearly is us, we place the blame on trivial shit to make excuses for ourselves.
This. I got it since always, that's why I've never been mad at girls. I always wondered: If I was a girl, would I date me? and the answer was always "no".
>we need to stop hating ourselves
hard to do bro
yah ive been feeling this for awhile, was just trying to figure out how to word it.
i wouldnt date me either anon. i know that feel
I think we see the disorder and think somethings wrong with everyone else, well OP- we're right, something is wrong with everyone else, but perhaps not in the way you think.
Some of us are bitter and spiteful, we hate the normies because we aren't the normies, but that's not how I got here.
I'm here because I used to BE the normie, I was within the higher echelons of the social hierarchy in school. At first I thought it was great, everyone knew my name, I was invited to do things, I felt like I actually had a life. But after a while, it got dull; I realized I was doing things and liking things that I didn't really enjoy, it was all just to fit in. I didn't like rap music, I didn't give a shit about sports, but there I was with my Bulls hoodie on and lil wayne on my iphone, but that's what got me "in" with the cool kids. I realized that not only was I faking it, but they were probably faking it too. They were all part of a culture that was not their own, it did not arise naturally, or perhaps it did and they really were that banal.
Anyways OP, at the end of the day, I realized how utterly contrived they all were, and how contrived I was too. You can look at this and say "that's just how society works man", but should it work like that? Am I dysfunctional for wanting to have integrity and honesty with others? Are they really perfectly fine because they lie their way into social acceptance and blindly adopt ideas because they're "normal" and "permissible"?
You can either choose to suffer while you're outside of the normies' world or you can take an honest look at the dysfunction permeating every crevice of society. Great men seldom were "normies", they usually developed radical views from observing things from an external perspective.
no women are the problem i can attract women but they are not really worth it and disappoint me. also society treats men like disposable utility and society is the problem as well.
>They're just doing what any single one of us would do....taking the best they can get.
I've always felt this way myself. Really, everyone's just doing what they feel like doing. Normalfags have sex, I play video games and go on the Internet. It's just the natural order of things.
I think that's what hurts the most.
It's all on you, man.
That's why there is so much hate for Chad, stacies and normies. Because some people can't handle that burden. They are the reason that they are how they are.
I think that is the number one reason of suicides. Not just in us, but failures of all types.
>blaming yourself for the hand society has dealt you
>blaming yourself for not having the genes it takes to succeed in this world
>blaming yourself for "beeing yourself" and everyone hating you for it
Nah. Kill all normies
You're right. I do dislike myself.
And no, I can't remember a time someone reached out to me, and made me happy from the blue.
That's why I do it. I'm the one who reaches out now. If there's no one else in the world to bring happiness, then damn it I'll be that guy.
It's not always easy. It rarely is. But fuck. I'll light the kennel of the first flame, even if it consumes me.
deep post man
yah i cant blame them anymore. if i could get a 7/10 over a 5/10 I would take it. Or a 6/10 etc. etc.
Would you take a nice steak or a bologna sandwich? Most will say steak. And I can't be mad about that.
Wish there was a way to change.
well said anon
you're a fucking hero anon. i wish i was that strong. to be honest, i'm so deep in self pity, i cant help anyone.
Not the guy you replied to here, but it really is my own bad decisions that make me fucked up.
>Always spend way too long on 4chan
>Don't shower as often as I should, and end up letting my eczema get bad
>Let myself get fat by eating too much
None of this stuff is due to "normies" or any other external factors. It's all down to me being a complete retard who can't manage my own life.
>blaming others for your shit decisions
>blaming others because you didn't actually try or work hard
>blaming people who are entirely unqualified to give you advice for not solving your problems
If I could become a normie, I wouldn't take it.
What I am jealous of Normie's for, is that they so easily find others with similar interests.
I just want to sperg out about Mobile Suit Gundam with someone. What's the point of faking it until you make it? You're just making fake relationships.
I'm going to make it brah. Just you see
There comes a time in every millenials life when they must realize that. And it's hard.
We were raised in a generation where we were treated like special snowflakes. In the name of self-esteem, we were taught to blame outside factors on our failings, that competition was wrong, to distrust successful people as privileged, to rely on the collective to solve our problems, to hate our masculinity and red-bloodedness...
This is how our schools and media raised us, and when we got thrust into the outside world, everything fell apart.
We got absolutely fucked by this poisonous thinking, but thankfully, we can turn it around.
It's never too late.
This. We didn't deliberately choose to be robots- who the fuck would? The real problem is that the world thinks we're weird as fuck for not striving to be a Chad or a Stacy.
>anon is so quiet all the time
>hes so fking weird why wont he talk to us like a normal person
>anon gives me the creeps
We're outcasts, and no matter how much we whine it won't change. Tbh I've grown to be content this way. I just no longer give a fuck about my sexuality, or at least I try to supress it to a minimum. Pursuing my hobbies is my life atm and it's coming along ok. Jacking off is like a chore now lol. I'm sure if I was pursuing women, my life would be much more miserable.
Yo mateys, I know you're all depressed, mentally ill and whatnot, I suggest you read this book. It makes you look at life in a different, more positive way. It seems absolutely ridiculous at first, that's because it is absolutely ridiculous. And that's fine.
Read it mofo's! It gud
>strictly enforced monogamy
no such thing /pol/
never has been. people are still people at the end of the day. besides, i dont wanna girl that is only with me because she doesnt wanna be stoned.
fuck just dont waste my time and i wont waste yours. if your not happy, get the fuck out. dont cheat.
is it like the alchemist?
thanks i'll check it out
check this one out sometime
We're cynical. We're anti-social. We swallowed the red pill. We hate normies. We hate roasties. We spend all of our time feeling miserable and talking about how awful everything is.
Of course nobody likes us. We're not likeable.
Of fucking course it's us, what else would explain literally everyone else being happy?
We are the ones who are fucked up, because we can not tolerate and flourish in the established society like everyone else can, we are broken, but does that mean we should just roll over and die? We're all animals, nothing more. Nobody has a right to happiness, but this includes normies, so fucking take it from them.
What are you waiting for? Seize their happiness for yourself, they have no claim on it, they have more and you have less, so take some for yourself. You like seeing normies suffer? Make them suffer. You want money? Steal it from them. Literally who gives a shit, they would do the same to us if the roles were reversed, it's the law of the jungle.
He's a fucking sociopath you retard
>ruled by primal instincts
>refers to people in animalistic terms ("law of the jungle" "we're animals, nothing more")
>actively wants others to suffer
>no qualms about harming others to get what he wants
>anti-social as fuck
I bet your boyfriend abuses you and you stay with him because the "seeds" you planted in him hoping to grow a "love tree" were a piece of your soul
Its our fault we dont destroy the society that enforces our dispossession and leaves us bored and alone, that rewards R-type breeders that care more for immediate gratification instead of long term investment.
Its our fault we dont attempt to fight the thousands of brainwashed stupid policemen who defend such a society with weaponry we have no access to.
Its our fault we dont actively kidnap women and attempt to discipline them back into being responsible and careful creatures whom value not popularity or money but strength, integrity, and courage.
Yes its our problem, but not in the way most normies or you think it is. Its our lack of conviction to be "edgy" and do what is necessary to preserve ourselves that is the problem.
>We got absolutely fucked by this poisonous thinking, but thankfully, we can turn it around.
>we can turn it around
Wrong. If you're really inferior (genetically or by other factors that influenced your development during childhood) and not just lazy, then there's nothing you can do about it.
I'm not even talking about cheating while in a relationship.
I mean lifelong monogamy.
You get with one man/woman, you are with them until one of you dies.
Right now, all of the young women, no matter how attractive, are going for Chad.
Chad can fuck them all, because he's allowed to.
If Chad was told that he only gets to pick one woman, Chad will pick Stacey.
If people who had sex outside of marriage were heavily shunned for it, people would just match up with others of equivalent attractiveness.
Fuck off, if you're a neet fatty yeah you're fucking garbage. Chances are 90% of these posters are lazy normal shits with girlfriends who do not reflect r9k at all.
Just becuase you're a lazy cunt that doesn't make you a robot. There are genuine robots who got beaten as children, are homeless, where bullied relentlessly, and you have
these faggots disregarding all their pain because they are lazy.
you're a bias loser bitch. You lack confidence. you sound miserable as fuck.stop worrying about "le chad" "tfw" go outside find your crowd quit giving a shit about something you're not. find your self dude.
>most powerful instinctual drive
>impossible to ignore
>just ignore it bro! just try harder even though you know it won't help you!
Normalfags say things like this from a position of luxury. If you were in the position of the average robot, you would feel the same as they do.
I was a NEET who got kicked out and join the military to get by. I go to work, interact with people as little as possible and then retire to my barracks room and sit on my computer for the rest of the day. I'm 24, a KHV, and I haven't had a friend since elementary school. I think I fit the description of what most people would consider a robot.
I masturbate at least once a day, and yet I don't spend all my time crying about not having a gf
Nah Military is a good environment for a robot especially compared to the private sector.
I can take peoples watch on the holidays because I don't do anything so a lot of people like me
So you'll try to discredit what I'm saying by insisting I'm not a robot instead of facing the fact that you can't control your own primal urges?
Speak for yourself. I have every single second of this shit.
>Forced to do stupid shit by incompetent people because of a rank structure.
>have to be around people too often
>long hours for shit pay
There are no redeeming qualities to being in the U.S. Army.
Its all about taking personal responsibility. Sure some of you robots may have been dealt a bad hand in life, but the circumstances and situation you are in are purely because of your own decisions.
If you want change I'm willing to give you advice.
>dealt a bad hand
>purely your fault
yeah, you should take some responsibility for yourself, but there are people here who are blessed with family, friends and a good upbringing, and there are people who weren't
i'm tired of this just world "i got here because i deserve it" crap.
>suddenly get super red-pilled
This happened to me but when I was still in elementary school. Man I wish I'd been redpilled much later in life, like right now than then so I could've atleast enjoyed SOME of my life before I became so cynical.
Fuck off with your naive just-world belief system. It belongs on reddit or facebook, not here.
The circumstances of your life and biological makeup (determined by genetics and potentially other factors in the past) determine the options and limitations you have in the present. There isn't a single decision I can make now to give me the life that I want. It's already too late. Don't tell us to "make the most of it" when the best case scenario for me isn't any better than what I'm doing right now. My life will only get worse as I get older, regardless of the choices I make now.
You are so wrong. Its naive and ignorant to think you can't improve yourself, because you can easily. Stop making excuses, you are consciously in control of your body, therefore you can make better/different decisions.
You may not like it but the reality is that you have create the world you live in currently, just like you can create the world you want to live in.
No. I will not accept that OP. I will not accept defeat. I will keep losing weight. I will keep resisting the allure of drugs. I will keep working on my novel. I will keep being kind and warm to others. I will keep asking women out, and if they reject me I will keep trying. Not every girl is the same. Some can see the goodness that is in our hearts. I have to believe that. Because if I don't then there is no point in even going on. I might as well get blind drunk every night. I might as well shoot up heroin.
No. I am a man. I will pass on my genes or die trying. And you will too OP.
Very good anon. Never quit no matter what, just keep on going. I promise to you that if you work hard and persist you will have success my friend. There is a girl out there for you, you just haven't found her yet.
you have to realise, normies represent the majority, they represent at least 80% of the population, with the 20% being the outliers, the billionaires and those in unfortunate predicaments. Heres my question to you, if becoming a normie requires so much hard work, and dedication, why is it that 80% of people are normies? Surely the easiest, laziest lifestyle should congregate the most people. Its because we were unlucky, we are statistical outliers.
You can improve yourself =/= you can be successful, attractive, etc. You can put seasoning on a pile of shit, but you still won't want to eat it.
People have varying levels of potential, and different limitations. You are delusional if you really believe that there aren't any hopeless losers.
To add to that, in order to become an outlier there is usually some external environmental catalyst, that creates the extreme discrepancy
If you are an outlier, its unlikely you were born a clean slate
As I previously said it is harder for you than the average person for whatever reason, we could go into a debate over nature vs nuture but that's not necessary.
It will take work but you can become a 'normie' and be happier. I used to be a robot but I turned things around. I am medfag, have a gf, have friends but haven't been out as much lately due to studies, have also pulled ~ 100 women.
I think the thing most of you forget is that you robots are smarter than the average person, you can get ahead if you really want to.
I'm not sure if there's really any purpose in arguing with these people. The "effort is always rewarded and there's always a solution for everything" mindset is basically a religious dogma.
This is why I'll never have a girlfriend.
I've had girls actually ask me out and such but I know that it would be morally wrong to date them knowing that I'm nothing but a broken, defective piece of shit. I turn them down to save them the disappointment and the trouble.
It depends what your definition of success is. If you're short and naturally unathletic, then sure, if you're idea of success is playing in the NBA then most likely it wont happen.
All I'm saying is that you can turn your life around, get a good career you enjoy, find a nice girl and just be happier in general.
You're delusional if you don't believe that everyone has the potential to be successful.
>All I'm saying is that you can turn your life around, get a good career you enjoy, find a nice girl and just be happier in general.
You have no rational basis for these assumptions. There are countless people who failed to achieve these things.
Its not a religious dogma because its true. Genuinely put in a good effort and try it for 6 months anon, what do you have to lose? I promise you will be a changed person for the better.
It's sad to see someone with as low self-esteem as mine. These negative feelings are so hard to get past. They just keep weakening us further like a bleed that drains our mana over time.
I'm not saying to give up, I'm trying to convince you that being a normie is not something everybody works towards, it's a neutrality where everybody starts. Nobody became a normie through hard work except the people who were dealt a shit hand, which is why It pisses me off when I see just world posters pretending like they have a girlfriend because they are virtuous people
>Sitting on bench in front of work on break
>Roastie in yoga pants with big tight butt and a fit frame passing by does a screech sound effect and stops her buggy
>"Oh my god, you're hair looks, so, good!"
>Feel like I should feel something but just sit there saying nothing
>Looking at the ground, hands clasped together praying to nothing, eyes glazed over, mouth numb
>She walks away after a full 10 seconds of waiting then I spend my break
>Go back inside and put on my vest to work with a bunch of people who hate my guts but can't tell me
I don't know if I look alright or not but I'm way too fucked in the head to ever let myself have anything
Sure there are people that have failed in that for various reasons. But just because some other have failed (we could question if they even tried), why not try for yourself?
You don't have to be a normie. You should just work towards being happy, whatever that may be.
Lots of people became 'normie' through working hard to improve themselves. To think not is naive. I have a girlfriend because I met a girl that I get along well with and there's a mutual like.
There is nothing more irritating than all these normals shouting about self-improvement like they're some kind of geniuses figuring it out.
Have you considered that your opinion isn't wanted? That robots don't want your pity either? They just want to share this feeling of being broken, a pretend person, playing it up for the masses so you can go home and feel empty.
>But just because some other have failed (we could question if they even tried), why not try for yourself?
People usually don't fail by choice. They fail because they don't have the potential to succeed.
I don't try because I lack the mental and physical capacity to be the person that I wanted to be, and I've already spent my youth doing nothing. My best case scenario isn't good enough to motivate me, and I'm too far behind, too mentally and socially stunted to ever catch up to people in my age group.
Leaving the NEET life also means being constantly reminded of my inferiority and everything I've missed, and will continue to miss.
It happens every so often but the whole game feels so broken that I won't let myself believe it.
It's like living in a cardboard world where I can see every facet of life is as shallow as the two-dimensional cut-outs that are creating them
>I have a girlfriend because I met a girl that I get along
you got a girlfriend because you could. I think its due to point out, being a normie does not entail having an ideal life, meeting the right girl, and getting the best job. Normies work hard to reach their ideals, not to maintain normality, otherwise you arent normal at all. The fact that you found a girl you get a long with is a reflection of this. A girl you get along with is an ideal, and ideals do require hard work, but most robots don't want ideals, they just want something, thats what distinguishes robots from normies, at least for me.
damn man i wish that shit happened to me. but then again who knows, i would probably choke
i was at a store earlier tonight and an older girl (probably 40ish) smiled at me kinda nice. had a big ole booty and no ring on her hand. i felt like i could have talked to her but just looked down when she smiled. im such a loser.
Because we are offering a lifeline. I may not have been dealt as bad of a hand as you (or maybe I have, we don't know each other). But I know from experience things can turn around.
I like to come into your echo chamber to remind you there is hope and a way to become happy.
They fail because they don't have the will to succeed. If you have a working body then you have the potential to succeed.
You're best case scenario is infinite. You don't know what could happen anon. You need help to get you back on track.
Since you obviously dislike the neet life, why not try to change? I am sincere in that if you put in an effort and push yourself outside of your comfort zone, life will be better for you.
What are your passions/hobbies?
Let me guess: You have certain features you're very confident in, but you're not sure if it requires a perfect 10 total package even for a minger like her, right?
Why is this generation's self-esteem so fucked?
>you got a girlfriend because you could.
but we all can anon. you are not incapable of getting a girlfriend no matter what you think.
I think we should stop labels like normie and robot. We are all people, yet all unique with positives and flaws. I think we all want happiness, and that is different for every single person. I genuinely believe happiness (whatever that may be) is within reach of anyone, its just you have to work hard to achieve that happiness.
didn't read. I knew I should have deleted that part of my post, it has nothing to do with the rest of it and is easy to attack. Please respond only when you have a direct critique of the rest and then I will read your post
my height is a big problem. i'm only 5'6" and after seeing all the statistics posted here, it makes me not have much hope for finding someone.
i'm somewhat confident in my looks. i have learned how to dress nice from /fa/. So that makes me look somewhat better. I have a babyface. Some women like that.
But the height thing and just all my other insecurites absolutely eat at me.
I addressed your entire post. All you're doing now is the equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears. I know its hard but just face it, if you want change its withing your grasp but it will require hard work.
I wish I had someone to offer me advice years ago. I hope on some level you take it on board and you may make a change to better yourself.
I'm not fucking with anyone who is down. I'm showing that there is people that care about you. If what I'm saying hits a nerve its because you know I'm right.
>It's us. That's all it comes down to, us.
>I addressed your entire post
I read it now and you did not, you went on a tangent about finding happiness, and how we gotta blur the lines between robot and normie.
That has no relevance. My post concerns the nature of hard work
>It's us. That's all it comes down to, us.
Anyone that hasn't come to this realization is a normie or a robot thinking he could be a normie. We don't have a chance in this world, and it's all our fault.
>I addressed your entire post. All you're doing now is the equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears. I know its hard but just face it, if you want change its withing your grasp but it will require hard work.
I chose not read you post because you chose to, and predictably so, attack the weakest part of my post which I did not elaborate on at all. I read your greentext, and stopped right there. The fact that you're attacking my character now, shows clearly that you are grasping at straws
If you never read it in the first place how you say it didn't address what you were talking about lol..?
Yes it does. You just don't like what I said because its the truth.
>ideals do require hard work, but most robots don't want ideals
so what you're saying is robots don't want to do hard work? well maybe we can realize that's why they are robots.
>they just want something
they want what we all want, to be happy
>The fact that you found a girl you get a long with is a reflection of this
I found a gf through hard work. I used to hate going on dates, I'd throw up before going on one and feel physically ill. I was sick of not having a girl, and I realized if I wanted one I'd just have to push myself through it. I did and have been successful with females since.
>Normies work hard to reach their ideals, not to maintain normality
Normality differs from person to person. Every single person you see has a problem unique to them. To think being a normie means you have no problems show how naive you are to the wider world. They may be first world problems but they are still problems. You are normal, you just are too lazy to get a decent career, meet girls or be social.
>it's all our fault.
>more normalfag religious dogma of free will and personal responsibility
Is a person who was born with blindness at fault for not making it in professional sports? Do you really believe that all adults are equally capable?
>Do you really believe that all adults are equally capable?
No: I'm incapable of communicating with other people, I have a stutter, a lip deformity, no personality, a weak voice and other things that play against me.
That doesn't mean I am not capable of having friends, because I know of people with WAY WORSE impediments than myself that have friends, a partner, a family, a job, kids, everything I wish for and I will never have.
I know one man and one woman who are, physically, monsters, and they achieved what I didn't.
This means *I* fucked up at some point, I didn't take the correct decisions, I was too scared, I retracted inside myself instead of attempting to communicate with the world.
I don't know where did you get that from my post.
>We were raised in a generation where we were treated like special snowflakes. In the name of self-esteem, we were taught to blame outside factors on our failings, that competition was wrong, to distrust successful people as privileged, to rely on the collective to solve our problems, to hate our masculinity and red-bloodedness...
complete over generalization, please kill yourself, pic related
>If you never read it in the first place how you say it didn't address what you were talking about lol..?
I didn't read it in the first place because >>26308039
I already covered all your arguments, now I am repeating myself
>so what you're saying is robots don't want to do hard work? well maybe we can realize that's why they are robots.
Robot needs to do hard work in order to become a normie, in the same way normies need to do hard work in order to reach their ideals, the difference is
the majority of normies were born normie, and the majority of robots were born robots (I explained this directly in my older posts, don't make me argue in circles), yet normies parade around acting like they are normies because of rigorous, and intensive hard work.
>I found a gf through hard work.
You said you found a gf you get a long with, through hard work, and I acknowledged that, because ideals require hard work for normies, but getting a generic, non-ideal gf does not unless you are a robot, and acting like you are morally superior because you do is like me
bragging about living in a first world country. I didn't get here through hard work, although I did have to do hard work to get into university. My point is, we all have different benchmarks, and some people are born above ours, those people have no right to boast about their work ethic
>I'm attacking your decision to put your fingers in your ears and refuse to read/acknowledge
again, you're assuming I'm lying and did read your post, and did not like what I read, which is not the case.
I did not read it with the presumption that it was irrelevant which it was. Regardless it is my fault for posting that line, and I would appreciate if you would stop piggybacking off my "inability to accept truth"
its cheap arguing fallacy, if you are confident with your argument you wouldn't need to use it
Regardless of your apparent reasons, why would you say 'didn't read' and then tell me my post isn't a 'direct critique' if you apparently never even bothered to read my post? Doesn't make any sense..
I rebutted your arguments and explained why you are wrong.
> yet normies parade around acting like they are normies because of rigorous, and intensive hard work
Its the truth though, what serparates normies from robots? Its the fact that normies have gone out and are living life.
>Robot needs to do hard work in order to become a normie, in the same way normies need to do hard work in order to reach their ideals
You think normies live a 'normal' life just naturally? If they lived without the motivation of some of the people on this board they would indeed be robots.
>You said you found a gf you get a long with, through hard work, and I acknowledged that, because ideals require hard work for normies, but getting a generic, non-ideal gf does not unless you are a robot, and acting like you are morally superior because you do is like me
bragging about living in a first world country
I struggled for many years to even speak to a girl that I wasn't related to. I couldn't have even gotten a generic non-ideal gf. I'm not acting morally superior, I am just trying to reach out to you and let you know you can find happiness.
>My point is, we all have different benchmarks, and some people are born above ours
Hard work will always trump natural ability. If you want a gf you get along with anon, you very much can achieve it.
>I did not read it with the presumption that it was irrelevant which it was
You're just back tracking. It make no sense to claim something irrelevant if you haven't even read it. I will drop the point but just realize why I am failing to see the logic.
Its not a fallacy. When you refuse to acknowledge something without a reason you can see why I believe its an inability to accept truth. I am confident with my argument, hence why I elaborate on all of my points.
I'm being honest here, I feel you are having a hard time understanding my argument, perhaps that is my fault for articulating it wrongly, but I feel none of your responses directly critique my arguments
We were having a good conversation earlier, bouncing ideas back and forth but it seems like you've just stopped registering anything new i have to say, not that, that makes me right, but I dont feel this arguments
worth my time. For instance
>Its the truth though, what serparates normies from robots? Its the fact that normies have gone out and are living life.
I told you what i think separates normies from robots, and you did not comment on it.
>You think normies live a 'normal' life just naturally?
I addressed that in >>26307061 >>26307118, you can make a rebuttal to that
>I struggled for many years to even speak to a girl that I wasn't related to. I couldn't have even gotten a generic non-ideal gf.
I addressed earlier, robots (people who were born in unfortunate circumstances like you given your troubles with girls) who become normies are perfectly respectable, when I refer to "people who had everything handed to them", I am not referring to you in this case.
But the smug assholes who started as normies
my central point is "we all have different benchmarks, and some people are born above ours"
your "you can do it" response again does not directly critique my argument. Again, as i said earlier, you should as a robot aspire to become great, literally the only point im making is there are people born with things, and they have no right to condescend those who werent born with those things, surely you can agree to that?
Nah, I'm pretty sure it's girls.
These days I go to lolcow farm specifically to get rid of my desire for gf. Every single time I see the kind of shit women post I realize I'm better off single. I'm focusing on career imstead tbqh w/ u faM
> think the thing most of you forget is that you robots are smarter than the average person, you can get ahead if you really want to.
No matter how smart i may be i'm still a loser, it's that simple
I being 100% honest with you, I did not read your post, if you do not believe me, you don't have to, but whats important is that I know for a fact I did not read it, and I know for a fact these accusations are baseless. Reminder, your goal here is to convince me your right, not yourself, so the best course of action would be to take my word for it. Your not going going to convince me x happened because y, if I know for a fact x did not happen. I have spent 2 hourse arguing with you here, and I believe we do agree, just that you misunderstand what Im arguing. I made my case in my most recent post.
Maybe we got lost somewhere along the way, friend. I will try to be more direct.
>I told you what i think separates normies from robots, and you did not comment on it.
My comment was my reason for believing what separates normies and robots.
>I addressed that in >>26307061 >>26307118, you can make a rebuttal to that
I agree, 'robots' are an outliner. They for whatever reason don't have the same drive that 'normies' do. Why is that?I don't know but I would guess it differs for each person. I agree with your point on outliners occurring because of an environmental catalyst. To reiterate, whilst I do agree with you some are hard done by, I personally believe that you can get out of being an outliner. Sure its unfair that you will have to work hard just to become 'normie', but it is possible.
>I addressed earlier, robots (people who were born in unfortunate circumstances like you given your troubles with girls) who become normies are perfectly respectable, when I refer to "people who had everything handed to them", I am not referring to you in this case.
But the smug assholes who started as normies
I agree with you here too. We are all different, the fix for me was just putting myself out there and dealing with discomfort. I guess I'm lucky because I make friends easily when I want to and I can have a conversation with just about anyway, and that comes naturally to me. But I had to overcome my own challenges before I could realize that.
Out of curiosity, could you tell me what makes you unhappy anon? Do you struggle with girls and if yes, what do you put it down to?
Nice, dude. I agree with you. And i also used to thik like this before i got my job and was introduced to the real world....
I'm sad because I pay extreme attention to every fuck up i make, i pay extreme attention to every girl and guy that does something that makes me feel bad. I completely undermine all of the complements i get, all of the people willing to chat with me, all of the people who offer a smile. I'm so dumb, lol. Why do we focus so much on the bad. I mean sure we should be aware but, to focus our entire being on a few incidents? whatever man. There are 7 billion people on this planet, and I'm sure that number is getting higher. 1 billion may not like, 2 billion may not care, but there is at least ONE person who will appreciate me for who i am, and grow as a person with me.
Thanks for this post, man. I feel like a weight has been lifted. I had this dark heavy feeling in my chest, but i can literally feel it slowly going away... I realized that I have to stop this madness. I'm the reason why I am depressed..
My uncle once told me, "anon, you're a thinker. sometimes it's a good thing, sometimes it is a bad thing. at some point someone is going to say something bad about and you're going to think on and it is really going to hurt you." And boy was he right. All I ever do is think about the bad. Dragging my own self into my own pit. I'll never see people again, so why I am so concered about the nasty stuff they are saying about me?
I really do feel free, man... I can breathe.
My theory is that what makes us different from normies is that we have a increased self awareness
That should be good, but it isn't
Insecurities come from self-awareness
Paranoia comes from self-awareness
Feeling nervous at all is just self-awareness
>All women are whores
Literally the normiest sentence there is. Look at this disgusting normie, he thinks robots' problems can be summarized to their interactions (or lack of) with women. Fuck off, normie.
As a guy who embodies what you say, try keeping that up for long.
Dont abuse drugs and alcohol anymore
It wins me some, it loses me some. But in the end, it all adds up to nothing.
Why would you want a child? Why put them through all this?