Being redpilled sucks; I wish I could go back.
>tfw feel absolutely repulsed when looking at any woman because she's a vapid, boring, self-absorbed, parasitic whore who will bleed you dry
I wish I could believe that good, creative, interesting, virtuous women are out there but I just can't.
The red pill on women can be fixed by talking to women who don't suck. Don't get me wrong, they're hard to find but around enough to where they can prove that generalizing that much is a mistake.
Still never getting married or having kids.
>all the beta whiteknight faggots in this thread
Look at you! Moral purveyors of justice! I'm sure women will be lining up to suck your dick when they find out you defended them on the internet! You're such good people! Yaaaaay!
dont let me spoil your pity parade with basic observations.
you've clearly found an ideology that conforms to and validates your preconceived beliefs. Far be it from me to judge you for that.
I just can't help but think things would be different for you if you had got a girlfriend back in highschool.
Let's have a serious talk about this for one second, please.
Yes, I'm also redpilled and read all the standard comment and am into this odd culture for 2 years now or so.
But I was never really angry because I always came from the premise that we're all monkeys doing what we think is best for us.
Yes, I understand that one gets sad that
>good, creative, interesting, virtuous women
are just the beta mans fantasy and anybody is prone to cheat with the "superior partner".
That's sad, but it doesn't make me angry at women or Chads. It's just how it is, it's nature. Even global societal developments (that leads to stuff like pic related) just acts upon monkeys who do what fits best.
>implying I didn't have a girlfriend in high school
I can't wait until you marry some used-up whore who's only interested in you for the money and is absolutely repulsed by every other aspect of your existence with you being too fucking stupid and pathetic to figure it out. Good luck in life, beta bucks.
and what do YOU want from a women, huh?
Don't you even try to justify yourself saying that it's intelligence that matters, also genuinity and all that sort of thing.
However, if it does matter to such ape as you, you must also acknowledge that women that care about that shit exist as well. You may just be very unlucky to find them, who knows?
>Don't you even try to justify yourself saying that it's intelligence that matters, also genuinity and all that sort of thing.
If she isn't fat or super ugly I honestly wouldn't care.
jokes on you retard. I'm a gayfag.
The only future you described is your own. have fun discussing all the UNIVERSAL TRUTHS you learned from a subreddit populated by greasy manchildren
You're such a catch. It's beyond me why no woman hasn't snatched you up already.
Man for a "enlightened man" you sure sound like a gapping vagina.
What makes you so intresting?
How do you feel you are not self absorded with that kind of bullshit mind set?
How do you contribute to society?
If you can't reasonablyanswer all three of your determined qualification why should a woman open her legs for you?
This exactly. It's just how it is, there's no point in being mad over how the world and society work and trying to change it is pointless. Just adapt to it the way you see fit. If you think women lack the capacity for true and absolute loyalty but you still want to engage in sex, put a lot of time into your looks and maybe an instrument and just befriend them with the intent to have sex. Some girls are into the whole FWB thing or could be persuaded with a hot guy who plays the flute. Or you could pay a prostitute but I'd advise against that for anyone here.
Oh well, you want a little too much, aren't ya?
And what exactly is your problem here? Do you live in not-the-most-educated part of your country? That would make total sense to me
(I'm trying to keep conversation going, but can't find anything to grip on - everything is so generalized)
They had to work much less harder due to being a Chad. Why should any self respecting robot accept being held to the same standard is beyond me. And if you subjects robots to the same standard, then you are retarded.
you're literally crying because 'life is unfair!' while being lucky enough to be born in a first world country where far less fortunate people have found ways to succeed.
and you wonder why no girls want you.
You will never become that unless you had a great starting position. If you didn't get born a Chad, you will spend your life slaving away for women and normie society(which hates you and considers you to be expendable). And you won't get anything out of it, compared to what lucky Chad gets. You are a cuck. You get shat on by normies and you keep working for them trying to improve yourself.
The starving nigger fallacy. Nice.
Yes I am whining that life is unfair. I shouldn't be expected to work hard if my results are gonna be shitty due to things out of my control(compared to Chad).
>tfw the phase after Redpill is the Re-Descent into Bluepill when you meet a girl who is "different"
>tfw you go around telling all your friends "this one's DIFFERENT, man!"
>tfw you've even heard of other people doing this and being deluded, but you KNOW you're right!!
>tfw she ultracucks you and humiliates you
>tfw the Real Redpill begins
yeah cause no short ugly people have ever been successful, especially in a country that puts a premium on ingenuity and hardwork.
Or can just self sabotage and live in squalid contentment with your lot in life, comforting yourself and assuaging your ego with the belief that it could never have been any other way.
These people had other things going for them. Like being from a good family(very wealthy or influential). Nothing happens for no reason. Also obviously there is the luck, some people get succesful despite having no luck when they got born. But it's so rare it's not even worth mentioning.
You claim you are red pilled but do.not realize that...
>you improve yourself worth for yourself not anyone else
>you can achive a new point in life by just applying yourself, fuck I worked with a plummer who was functionally retarted and had a gimp leg and still made forty k a year
> that a person who was in your mindset and mostly likely position before hasnt made their life better
Fuck, you articulated it so well. I don't want to live anymore.
By improving myself I am helping normie society. And if inferior man improves himself, he doesn't help himself that much, but mainly society. It's kinda like that guy who buys lottery tickets all his life but never wins.
And had that plummer not been inferior, he could have achieved so much more. His hard work had shitty results compared to if he was a Chad.
You can't make your life better if you are inferior. You are just helping the normies.
are you kidding? the red pill has set me free and woman have no power of me. I could be paying alimony and child support if i was a blue bill mangina.
This is the nu-man.
Adopts a self-defeating attitude and claims to justify it with logic by citing wikipedia articles like Halo Effect.
im lmaoing @ ur life. Everyone in this thread can see why you're not popular with the ladies, and it isn't because of your looks.
Well I don't see you disproving what I've said, you're just insulting me(ad hom). Also you're using ad populum fallacy
>Everyone in this thread can see
So do you have anything to really add to the discussion?
>tfw took the red pill
>went too deep in the rabbithole
>Nothing will ever be the same
>tfw gained radical political opinions normies would find insane
It makes me mad just how accurate this is.
>Everyone in this thread can see why you're not popular with the ladies, and it isn't because of your looks.
Because he's a below-average male, which I think has been his point the whole time.
Well see, maybe I am depressed. I haven't been diagnosed(only a retard would willingly let something like this be put on his record).
But what does it matter? If these dark thoughts are true(and I don't see anyone disproving them), then should I not think them? Why? Why should I ignore the truth?
>it's bullshit but it makes you feel real enlightened and disillusioned
>be unable to get girls throughout your life
>find le redpill
>wrap this half-baked philosophy around your emotional issues
>be comforted by knowing that your unhappiness is everybody else's fault
>fail to resolve any of the issues that actually caused your women troubles in the first place
>meet a woman again and get hurt again because you're still an emotional trainwreck
>continue blaming everyone but yourself
Cure the disease, then you won't have to keep taking pills.
you're just insulting me(ad hom)
lol no shit. That's not me trying to engage you in debate. That's me pointing out that you're actually fucking stupid and laughing about it.
>wahh life is unfair
>ergo there is no reason to ever try and better my station
That's your argument. It defeats itself. You don't need Socrates to tell you that it's pathetic, especially coming from someone who claims to be actuated by "logic".
You're a perfect example of why "redpilled" manchildren are ridiculed.
The problem is being a decent person goes against women's biology and self interest, and it's nigh impossible for them to understand the concept of honor. And, since a whore will pretend she's a good person to get her hooks into you and start bleeding you, it makes no sense to care about women beyond their physical features, especially if you don't even want to have children
Look at the amout of your peers disagreeing with you and trying to prove to you that what your saying is bullshit. Just because your defenses are up doesn't mean they arnt truthful. Seek out some help anon, no one will look down on you for reaching out for help.
>lol no shit. That's not me trying to engage you in debate. That's me pointing out that you're actually fucking stupid and laughing about it.
That's typical for normies. They will call you stupid, insult you but never offer any actual points. They don't care about the truth. Just their social bullshit.
>That's your argument. It defeats itself. You don't need Socrates to tell you that it's pathetic, especially coming from someone who claims to be actuated by "logic".
How does it defeat itself? And no, you calling it pathetic doesn't mean it defeats itself. It just means you consider it pathetic.
If you just see all women like that you're not redpilled, being truly redpilled is recognising the human nature in women that causes them to act that way even if they want to be different.
Women are encouraged by nature and history to be parasitic, they've evolved to become that way in human society where they were passed around as prizes and breeding machines by big strong men. They had to become boring and self-absorbed to survive. It's like hating a man for wanting to have sex with multiple women, it's just in their nature, it's just for some reason growing up our parents and media teach about male human nature but neglect the female side, so men grow up with an idealised view of what women are.
Once you know the warning signs it's easy to avoid dangerous and trashy women, and once you understand women it isn't that hard to contain their nature.
think about it this way
notice how r9k surfaces all the most vulnerable parts of the male psyche
everything fucked up thing you've read on r9k, there's a female equivalent for that type of thinking
i went to this female r9k site called lolcow dot farm and i legit got redpilled, realized that girls are fucking crazy
Well that doesn't matter though. See "ad populum" fallacy. But pretty much just because many people believe in something, does not mean it's the truth. That's like saying that in 13th century the earth actually was flat, because at that time(at least in europe) most people believed that. It holds no value.
Also I can't really seek help, nor do I want to.
>Cure the disease, then you won't have to keep taking pills
lmao that bluepill delusion
>just as bad as the atheist community
I never understood why people hate atheist so much. It's just the lack of faith in a supreme being. The Internet has turn it into this trench coat wearing, fedora tipping, autistic cult.
The majority of the atheist community is just atheist not even associated with each other. That said, I'm not part of the red pill shit either.
>The majority of the atheist community is just atheist not even associated with each other
I think that was the point, in a way. Plenty of people are atheists, but the people who actively join the 'atheist community' are pretty autistic. They seem like pricks to me, and I'm an atheist. I just don't go around telling everyone about it, while quoting aalewis.
Same here my friend, whenever I see a qt shy girl sitting in a corner reading books or whatever I just remind myself she's no different from any other subhuman walking fuckhole, she probably takes kilometers of dick every year and only reads because she wants to look unique or quirky or something.
I hate women so fucking much.
Looks like more than one person thinks you're an idiot, friend :^)
>I never understood why people hate atheist so much.
>The Internet has turn it into this trench coat wearing, fedora tipping, autistic cult.
Answering your own question there.
No civilized person has believed in a flat earth for at least twenty-five hundred years. I think the example you're going for is geocentrism; unfortunately, if you roll back some of your assumptions and think about things from a 13th century perspective, geocentrism was a dramatically more robust viewpoint than heliocentrism. And yes, there were ancient heliocentrists, they just didn't get much traction because heliocentrism is the "less simple" model because it requires you to believe in interstellar distances.
I point this out as a reminder of just how deep this "modern paradigms are so much better" meme goes.
wow nothing but
muh shit talking
holy shit sex is the only thing that gives them power without it they would be nothing and chad would not put up with their shit.
>implying that the post-pill isn't a bunch of empty platitudes that provide no argument nor objective
Sorry to trigger you fellas
atheists community means specifically atheists who get online to discuss being an atheists with other atheists, eg pseudo-intellectuals who try and construe how they are oppressed in the modern day west while making sure to never talk shit about islamic countries where they might be executed by the state
you're not really in a community if you don't commune with others like yourself or give a shit about being that type of person
I-I just wanted someone to be there at the end of the day and happy to see me. That expectation is too romantized to exist in the current world anon. I'm happy for you having some sort of fantasy, cause, or maybe some absurd reality that allows you to have this optimism in women. But the fact of the matter is not everyone can maintain that.
Not the fag fag, but you don't have to be fucking women to know how fucked they can be. Ask any beta orbiter
Post pill is rational statements that can be backed up.
Red pill is a bunch of conspiracy theories back up by even more retarded conspiracy theories.
You'll make it back to the world of rationalism, and stop blaming invisible forces and ideas that are oppressing you.
You have the same thought process of a feminist.
B8 harder, and I hope you don't actually believe any of the red pill non-sense :^)
>divorce rate statics are just conspiracy theories and men don't have worry about marriage laws they don't exist.
this is coming from someone who is enslave by that sweet pussy who thinks women don't see him as a disposable utility.
Look up the stages of grief. Eventually you come to acceptance. Women are shit, what can you do?
Mgtow is the only logical choice. Just work on yourself, practice 'game', 'pua', 'playering', whatever it is you call pumping and dumping, or at most a fwb that you never marry, and if you cohabitate you take basic precautions to avoid getting fucked(no common law states, no joint bank accounts, everything in your name so you aren't fucked if you have to cut ties, familiar with eviction process, etc.) Bitches be crazy too. You should have a rape cam in your sex rooms, no audio, so you can prove your innocence if she cries wolf. In some states recordings are legal, either way the punishment is less than rape, and more severe for a+v. Also have other rooms with audio and video cameras. When she throws a psycho bitch fit and breaks your stuff you can prove it was your shit, it was in good condition before she broke it, and that it was her who broke it. Obviously you don't tell her about the cameras. That's really about it. You will get cucked if you keep fucking a bitch regularly. Check yourself often and try to find some satisfaction in knowing you cheated on her more than she cheated on you. Also women are so fucking stupid they can't even take a pill. A low dose of testosterone is good. Testosterone enanthate 250mg/wk or its equivalent in ester of choice is enough to make you infertile while causing minimal sides. At most you pop an ai pill twice a week. That's about it for bitch specific advice. The rest comes down to money, toys, and health.
>you think like a feminist so i'm goong to dissmiss everything you wrote
Look who's talking.
What i wamt to know is what the fuck are this things supposed to mean
>positive masculine identiyy
>find a way to be a man
It's sounds like a bunch of "b urself" shit
not all women are like that, you most likely just grew up around shitty ones so think that's normal behavior
extreme life hack on how to identify good women: women whos parents are still together
Not him but I'll take a crack at it.
Positive masculine identity would be having beliefs of masculinity as a force for good, not evil as is often portrayed in contemporary everything. Feminist cant is useful here because they pretty much wrote the vocabulary on sex, gender, and culture's interaction. Many men 'internalize' the demonization of masculinity and this combined with a lack of any masculine role models from 90s and beyond leads to one bad shit for men.
Find a way to be a man is ambiguous, and likely worded that way intentionally. What is a man? It's hardly just muscles, money, and a strong moral compass. These are important, necessary even, but being a man is so much more. The redpill types often speak more in terms of building or making yourself rather than find yourself or be yourself as is popular in feminist leaning groups.
The 'manosphere' is not without its faults, I could criticize it all day long but it does provide men a platform to discuss sexual, cultural, political, and even bullshit issues with slightly less mocking and disparagement that they would get voicing any opinion outside of the cultural marxist dogma elsewhere. Take it with a grain of salt and find like minded groups. I tend to like at least part of what all groups have say except for the mra types(aside from intactivism, which was a thing before mra was anyway).
Its fascinating watching the group grow and change over the years. I've even written a few essays that were published on some of these sites. If you like the idea but not the reality get out there and leave your impression. It's gotten big enough you're unlikely to be the only one to hold the beliefs you do.
That will help but it only goes so far. Besides that consider the cost of just fucking a different cute girl fwb a few months with pussy on the side vs obsessively looking for a healthy, attractive, young, virgin woman with a strong moral backbone and upbringing and then marrying her and still having the possibility of divorce as well as dealing with her changing in looks and personality over time. Whether it is worth it or not depends on how much your unicorn is worth to you, but mine isn't worth the additional cost and quickly depreciating value. Even when I'm a wrinkly old fuck I'm sure to find some cute 20 year old to fuck and change my diapers. If not for honest pay each week like sugar daddy arrangement then at least marriage and a hopefully minimally painful poison so she gets her 50% of my estate.
>It's sounds like a bunch of "b urself" shit
>claims to be "redpilled"
>still doesn't understand that "just be yourself" is in fact a profound sutra and the ultimate goal of all self-improvement.
he who knows everything knows nothing
I thought I'd be my own doctor and buy random bottles of oil fresh from some /fit/fag's bathtub. After that I found other sources. The information is easy to find, just google first steroid cycle and follow the good advice except you don't ever stop. If bloods say test is up, estrogen low, and lipids lipidy then you're good to go another few weeks until you test again. If you fuck up worst case scenario you die. Doing your research will drastically lower the chances of death.
If you really want a doctor then fuck family, endocrinologist, and internal med docs. You need an anti aging clinic. Low test is not legally defined. You can get any test and gh provide they like you and your wallet enough. It wouldn't hurt to bottom out your test though. Don't eat, don't sleep, think sad thoughts, and you should be able to score 9yr old girl easily enough when they draw blood. They usually want you to buy from their pharmacy only. It's marked up of course, but there are some definite advantages to being caught with controlled substances and being able to show a prescription for them.
If you want to meet people that aren't like that, you need to not be like that. And the assumption of "everyone but me is vapid and self absorbed and stupid and boring" while you act like you're better than others for being redpilled and more educated while still posting about it on /r9k/.
Go make something of yourself, and drop the pretentious attitude.