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How the fuck do we solve the manchild epidemic? I mean, so many

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How the fuck do we solve the manchild epidemic?

I mean, so many white males are just dropping out of life because they're pathetic betas. Instead of making a family, and most importantly, children, they just rot in front of their computers every single day, watching anime or playing stupid video games.

I personally know at least 3 of these subhumans, and they all have certain things in common.

>went to university
>earn a decent amount of money, usually in some beta tech job instead of working for their money like a man
>either waste the money on trivial horseshit or save it for no apparent reason, or waste on on manchildren collections and expensive toys (comics, big tvs, guns, 'audiophile' stereo systems, gaming PCs, motorbikes, cars, power tools, anime shit)
>have absolutely no interest in politics, history, anything else but their shitty manchild hobbies
>politically passive, don't give a fuck about what's happening to their country
>absolutely NO productive hobby, 95% of free time is spent in front of their computer watching degenerate anime or playing pointless timesink video games
>not interested in long term monogamous relationships with women
>not interested in having children or starting families

What the fuck do we do? How do we save society from these betas?

Pic related, look how clueless they look with those stupid fucking things on their faces
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>>26293396
Those who don't reproduce solve the problem of their existence just fine on their own.
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Why do you care tho?
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What a faggot. Now I'll just play some runescape and chill.

all the criteria apply to me
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You realize that this is women's fault, right? Most guys strive to do stuff so girls will like them. Now girls suck, so there's no point.

We make just enough money to support ourselves, our hobbies and hang out with friends.
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>>26293396
fuck you, this shit is only going to increase
don't insult them, don't call them subhuman, because right now you're the one begging them to change
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shitposting has evolved to a whole new level on this board.
bravo. brah-fucking-voe.
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>>26293396
Butthurt unwifable roastie detected

Are you mad that men are doing things without your permission or approval? Woe is you.
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This is pasta, but
>most importantly, children
Pfffff hahaha
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>>26293414
if the cause of these symptoms would be genetics that's true, what if however the root of the problem is our society?
Manchildren, political correctness, gender identities, modern feminists, multiculturalism, affirmative action ... it's all connected
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Part of this group isn't even beta, they just don't want to take part in human rat races and seek distractions.

Family? gf/wife? Nice moneysink with little to no reward. I'm not an emotional person so I kind of fail to see the logic in taking up these responsibilities when I could be enjoying myself instead.

I fucking hate children btw, enough of these monkeys out there as it is. We're at like 7 billion fucking people we don't need more.
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>>26293396
the guys working in the tech industry and saving their money are going to have absolutely zero problems with starting a family while literally every manual laborer i have ever met works 12 hours a day, feeds their kids garbage and parks them in front of the TV when they aren't doing homework. you're raising the next generation of mindless drones, while the people you're trying to ridicule are advancing the very technologies that increase your quality of life. face it dude, you're an obsolete model, a dinosaur.
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ReturnOfKings is apparently all over this board today. Which reminds me.

GEEEEEEEET THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTT NORMIE SCUM.
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It's nature's way of dealing with the population crisis. If you were intelligent you would have realized that.
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>>26293546
So, your argument is practically the same as that of 'political correctness, gender identities, modern feminists, multiculturalism, affirmative action ...'
Your 'arbitrary social construct' is just as much bullshit as is theirs.
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I know this is b8 but there are people who actually think this way.

>conform to the rules society has set for you
>become another cog in the machine
>if you don't we will bully you

I think they only do this because it weakens the integrity of their "perfect" system. They feel it lessens their way of living and the only thing they know how to do is lash out like a child.
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>>26293396

>make decent money
>spend it on stuff you enjoy
>not tied down to a nagging wife and annoying children
>freedom to do whatever you like

How is this bad exactly?
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>>26293396
>cards stacked against you
>please crush yourself against the rocks.
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Nice copypasta. I get it that you normies are mad because inferior men won't be slaving away for scraps anymore. But that's how it is. Better get used to it, because it's how you say it, right? Life isn't fair.
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>>26293575
It has nothing to do with overpopulation. Virtual reality is slowly offering a reality that is superior to real life and real women---even Chads will rather be jerked off by their robot waifu who doesn't bitch and moan about things like real women do.
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>>26293604
It's pretty bad if you're a 30-year-old woman with a biological clock ticking and don't have anyone to bankroll your maternity fantasies.
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THEY'RE GONNA CLEAN UP YOUR LOOKS
WITH ALL THE LIES IN THE BOOKS
TO MAKE A CITIZEN OUT OF YOU
BECAUSE THEY SLEEP WITH A GUN
AND KEEP AN EYE ON YOU SON
SO THEY CAN WATCH ALL THE THINGS YOU DO
BECAUSE THE DRUGS NEVER WORK
THEY'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A SMIRK
CAUSE THEY GOT METHODS OF KEEPING YOU CLEAN
THEY'RE GONNA RIP UP YOUR HEADS
YOUR ASPIRATIONS TO SHREDS
ANOTHER
COG
IN
THE
MURDER
MACHINE.
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>>26293546
>Manchildren, political correctness, gender identities, modern feminists, multiculturalism, affirmative action

here let me push the envelope a little further

misanthropy, cynicism, media addiction, hook up culture, PUA, mindlessly swallowing propaganda instead of developing your own perceptions about the world
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tl;dr version of OP (whether or not he actually wrote it):
>ANIME MAKES ME SO ANGRY
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>>26293396
>Stop liking things I don't like: the post
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>>26293396
Why does a hobby need to be "productive"? I'm productive for eight to twelve hours a day, six days a week; it's called a job. Why would I want to be "productive" in my time off? I bust my ass 60 hours a week, so when I have time to myself, you bet your ass I shitpost, watch tv, play games, read and do various leisurely activities. Sorry I'm not building houses for the homeless, because I earn my keep building houses for people who also have jobs. No home wood working projects for me, I actually fucking work with wood.
You're just some punk kid who thinks life is like living in your dad's garage. You don't even have a job, or you wouldn't be so adamant that your hobbies be "productive", you stupid god damn prick.
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>>26293632
This desu. I'm borderline Chad (have dat jaw, was multisport athlete in highschool, work in finance now) and honestly, I'd rather just fuck and chuck girls or bang a hooker rather than put up with a nagging, whining bitch in a relationship.

Women don't know their place these days.
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>>26293660

this website really is filled with 18 year olds.

a woman with a degree working in a lucrative field will have no problem financing her maternal fantasies herself.

but the real irony is that you yourself are absorbed on the other end of the same fantasy. you believe that popping out a bunch of babies automatically makes you a better human being.
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>>26293708
This 2bqh familio. Fuck normies.
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>>26293396
>How the fuck do we solve the manchild epidemic?
Not even reading the rest, you roastie whore.
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>waste money buying stuff
> or he saves it
>both bad
what other options are there?
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>>26293723
>a woman with a degree working in a lucrative field will have no problem financing her maternal fantasies herself.
top kek, most women won't do this because of social stigma
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>>26293581
No you fucking idiot. A society that allows for movements like that to be taken serious or even fucking institutionalized will obviously allow for other shit like that, like manchildren, to be accepted too.
There is no arbitrary social construct, I was just stating the fact that your society is shit and that's why you have these problems. And by society I mean everyone participating: including you.
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>>26293746
raise chads progeny with your oneitis
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>>26293746
Spend it on a woman and her brood, obviously :^)

#GiveYourMoneyToWomen #INeedFeminismBecause #76CentsOnTheDollar
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>>26293749
then natural selection takes place, numb nuts
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>>26293723
Yes she will. By the time she has a degree and a career, those eggs are already starting to wilt away. Then it's either 'bye career' or 'bye kids'. Career-women never made sense anyway.
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>>26293396

The 60's called. They want their mentality back, grampa.
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And what's in it for me? I have been treated like shit by society due to things I can't change. I had to work hard for simple things. Why should I want to participate in it beyond getting enough money to finance my hobbies? I just don't get it.

You can't treat someone like shit and expect them to come crawling back.
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>>26293396
>>either waste the money on trivial horseshit or save it for no apparent reason, or waste on on manchildren collections and expensive toys (comics, big tvs, guns, 'audiophile' stereo systems, gaming PCs, motorbikes, cars, power tools, anime shit)

I can understand the anime shit, but what the actual fuck? Some of this shit is legitimate pastime. Let's toss all our interests out the window because some bitch is upset that men are realizing women are useless. You're not worth a damn. I'd rather study something than even remotely come close to the thought of having to entertain some whore again.

>inb4 virgin
>inb4 mgtow nonsense

I'm neither. I'm just sick of people trying to change everyone's fucking life because they have a personal problem. I'm fucking triggered right now. Fuck wit me.
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>>26293762
so let me get this straight

everyone needs to get involved in politics

and everybody needs to start fucking the shit out of each other and popping out babies

how is this going to fix anything?
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>>26293783
Not really, natural selection doesn't take into account the memetic nature of concepts within humanity. Feminism will live on regardless of whether those women breed or not.
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>>26293396
>>either waste the money on trivial horseshit or save it for no apparent reason, or waste on on manchildren collections and expensive toys (comics, big tvs, guns, 'audiophile' stereo systems, gaming PCs, motorbikes, cars, power tools, anime shit)

>Trivial horseshit
> Motorbikes, car, power tools

I'm pretty sure these are not considered trivial horseshit in society, all of these things have reasonable functions, and they have literally nothing to do with being a manchild
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>>26293806

Please do not insult my grandfather. He is a veteran of internet wars.
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>>26293396
>in a world that hates them, he is suprised that they give up
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I like how this copypasta has grown desu, it used to be just
>manchildren collections (comics and anime)
but now apparently spending money on a car or anything aside from a vagina is being immature
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>>26293831
MEMES VS GENES

THE FINAL SHOWDOWN
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>>26293836
>>26293862
Right? Next it's going to be shit like "breathing," and "existing," added to the list. I wish I wasn't serious either.
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>>26293895
>existing in america 2k16 as a beta male
might as well be a moral offense according to women desu
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what do rich people buy thats so great? just ridiculously overpriced shit thats only marginally better than what you can get for regular prices

>mfw men work for fucking years and years so they can afford to buy a fucking shiny rock because some stupid bitch wants it on her finger so she can show off how some faggot was stupid enough to waste years of his life for her
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>mfw went to unversity and have a well-paying tech job
>save a decent amount of money and spend the rest of vidya and anime
>literally unironically smoke weed errday
>not interested in relationships with 3DPD roasties at all, will never get married
how mad OP?
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>>26293862
Why are you being mysoginistic? You're supposed to orbit until she's in her mid thirties with three kids after fucking any Chad she can to 'get it out of her system'. Once she's done, 'True Love' finally takes place, where you pay all the bills and she still sleeps around. If you disagree, you're being a sexist pig.
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Yeah how dare we use money on ourselves instead of strong womyn. You must make a family and then after the divorce pay like a good little provider. Don't worry though soon everyone will get raised taxes to provide for single moms with tube kids. This way we can be a true cuck world.
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>>26293831
Every time your cells reproduce a little piece of your telomeres is shaved off. As you grow older, there is more random information contained in your DNA. People who wait to reproduce will have children who have to work harder in order to succeed. Someone who finds a good mate in college, in high school, or while they're young and their future is bright, who meets all of their criteria, will succeed far more easily than someone who has to wait until their mid thirties or forties.

If anything feminism encourages natural selection.
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Daily reminder that you have ABSOLUTLY NO OBLIGATIONS towards humanity. I'm an individual, I don't give a shit about my 'race', species or culture. Humanity could die out on my death day and I wouldn't care beforehand.
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>>26293974
But the breeding age has gone up and up since the advent of feminism.
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>>26293974
>mfw my mom had me at 39
No wonder I'm such a fuck up.
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>>26293396
just going to have to take it upon ourselves first and foremost to help as many people as possible, and spread understanding and prosperity to all
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>>26293934
oh and I forgot
>oculus on preorder
who /vr/ here boys?
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>>26293990
and now we have an enormous sociological crisis where many males are essentially rebelling against not being selected.
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>>26294068
No one is rebelling. Some might be a little upset, but that's not enough to get their first world ass to rebell against anything.
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>>26294013
Yeah me too porn is going to be blocked though. So thanks for ruining my toys feminism.
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>>26294013
If you use oculus for waifus, does it count as 3DPD?
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>>26294082
>feminism

nigger you are being saved by the hand of god from going full cuck
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>>26294078
Well they're ignoring the things that society thinks they should be doing. And society is starting to think that this is a problem(for example with hikkis and herbivore men in Japan). Calling it a rebellion is a little far fetched, but it's not totally off.
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>>26294078
Rebelling isn't really the word, opting-out is more apt.

But it still is a huge fucking socioeconomic problem. Look at Japan for what lives in store for the future
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>>26294099
>cuck
Do you know what that means son?
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>>26294116
i know terrible things
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>>26294110
Why is it a problem? Men shouldn't be expected to provide for society beyond the basic things if they are not getting much back.
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to a woman everything that someone does is automatically assumed to be action taken in order to impress them. the idea that someone could want to do something for their own amusement is difficult for them to understand
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>>26294078
literally just yesterday someone compared themselves insulting random women at bars to fightin a war. then there's all the masturbation over elliott rodger, the beta uprising, people are spending a great deal of energy not on figuring out how to help society but how to tear as many people away from it as possible.

my point is that these males are redressing their actions through the same mode of behavior as all of the feminists you complain about, and therefore the social justice brigade is not the cause of the problem but another symptom
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>>26294165
It's a demographic problem. Japan has been stagnating since 1998 and in no small part due to herbivores.
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>>26294256

God why did r9k ever allow stupid broads to be a participant on the internet. Can't wait till all you vagina's are executed lul.
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Even if I wanted to get married, I couldn't even find a girlfriend. I'm 27 and never even held hands, it's impossible. There is no reason to even try when I'm surrounded by superior men, to be honest I couldn't trust the judgment of woman picking me out of everyone.

Hopefully we'll get good VR at some point.
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>>26293670
>mindlessly swallowing propaganda instead of developing your own perceptions about the world

this so much jesus christ

Just go to /pol/, you'll see bunch of manchildren who claim it's the society/woman/jews/degeneracy/whatever is the reason why they can't get a girlfriend.
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>>26294256
>figuring out how to help society

Why? No-one owes society anything.
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>>26293923
For Megumin, I'd buy that rock.
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>>26293991
My mom had me at 49, how do you think I feel?
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>>26294343
>real men passively wait and sit around talking about their feelings until things get so bad people start killing each other
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>>26294412
Guys stop the discussion we have a rare rotten egg here. How is it like realising you don't have a chance?
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>>26294379
"you," are a tiny part of a massive constantly shifting atmosphere of organic chemicals. the food you eat, the air you breathe, your genetics, it's all the product of the environment and ecology around you. Noone is exempt from this, and noone knows what the consequences are if we continue to ignore this.
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>>26294256
>and therefore the social justice brigade is not the cause of the problem but another symptom
What??? Because they both use similar tactics one can't be the problem? I don't understand the logic behind this.

The SJWs align with the powers at be so their whining gets listened to and r9k-tier whining gets ignored, the SJWs then cause problems for r9k whiners who have no powerful advocates to stir shit for them.

>people are spending a great deal of energy not on figuring out how to help society but how to tear as many people away from it as possible.
I'm sure more bait and berating them will get them off their feet and onto solutions.
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if it makes you guys feel any better you still have a leg up on third-worlders who live on the bare minimum amount of food possible and work 16 hour shifts in smog-choked factories their entire lives.
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>>26293396
How about you fix the white women epidemic.

Make them even remotely desirable, then I'll walk away from the computer. Til then, fuck off.
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>I-IF YOU DON'T PERPETUATE THE EXISTENCE OF THE HUMAN RACE, THEN I'LL GET REALLY MAD!
Pretty sure most people here don't really give a shit about what happens to the human race. We'll die the same way you and your future children will. In fact, I'd bet that most people here would rather see this planet in flames.

Modern politics are a waste of time, it's nothing but poison to the mind. The average person will never let a moment pass where they don't educate people on how correct or progressive the ideology they subscribe is, but the moment they see it in action they will always be the ones who are most against it. Nothing but bandwagoning until the person starts to realize what they're actually spouting, but by then it's already too late.
Also, there's no such thing as an "objectively correct thing" to indulge yourself in. You're an idiot for thinking that you can take the high ground and insult people's interests because you pretend to have passions that really are only just "things that are socially acceptable."

I'm seriously starting to think that normies are the most unintelligent creatures in existence, you're just as mouthy as dindunuffins when it comes to shit you arbitrarily find unacceptable. You're uninteresting and petty when it comes to conversing since all you want to talk about is either yourself or the latest fad on social media. You have no interest in discussing things you don't do or haven't done since the concept of hobbies outside of your personal experience aren't worth a shit.

Normies get out.
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>>26293923
the very shiny rock thats technically worth little because some rich guy has a ton from africa and is just letting them leak little by little into the economy so he can maximize his profits
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>>26293474
Or opie is a man who was raised with "traditional values" and now realizes that there are alternative options and is trapped in a life of perpetual servitude and wants others to be as well.
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>>26294518
Yeah the reason for it all is that the value we set on modern women is lower than our hobbies. Reason the problem isn't larger is because feminists raised a lot of nu-males and betas. These can't clearly see how shit their deal is.
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>>26294547
>maximize his profits

THE GOYIM KNOW, CHANGE TACTICS
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I'm happy to rot in front of my computer, senpai. It's either this or shoot a public place up, but that's even more unacceptable, so if anything i'm doing the normies a service by being a shut in. At least i'm not spreading my degenerate genes either. You're welcome normies.
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>>26294547
Delete this now! 3 letter agencies are after you now
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The value of a woman decreased below the point where it makes sense for a male to bother.

Women are increasingly "pragmatic". They choose their males the same way they choose an apartament. Pros and cons. Costs and benefits. No place for irrational choices.

And yet they do wonder and act surprised when the general male population responds in kind. Where I live a decent whore costs $100 an hour. And let me tell you that - they look good and are worlds better than any gf I ever dated. The actual costs of maintaining a relationship (where you *know* you are considered a provider and paid as little back as the market allows) are way higher. So yes, thank you, I will take my $360k salary and enjoy myself without some sucker expecting me to run circles around her, entertain her only to be awarded favors - when she is in a good mood, that is. Thank you, the value equation doesnt work anymore.

There is the golden rule: if it floats, flies or fucks dont buy it, rent it.

Best of luck to all you ~30 or so ladies who think men are loosers because they dont jump on every opportunity to be enslaved. I've been ignored by your kind when I was young so now that I am in my thirties and relatively wealthy - I will ignore you back :-)
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>>26293666
>The Black Parade was 10 years ago
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>>26294772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C96lQT_ImV4&feature=youtu.be

Roasties on damage control. Bonus if you notice the nose
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>>26294852
her voice is fucking disgusting, sounds like she has 1lbs of cum stuck in her throat
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>>26293396
Fuck you breeder fags. Childfree manchild master race here. Go ahead keep breading then pay mortgage then pay debts. Hahaha love seeing the defeated looks on your faces while you follow your wife and children in malls. While me and my wife have quiet walks in the mall and buy anything we want.
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>>26294852
Where'd you find this chick?
http://www.f-cklist.com/nudes/
http://www.f-cklist.com/
>After 25 years of marriage, Schahrzad, 51-year-old mother of three, files for divorce and decides to embark on a powerful journey of sexual discovery, liberation and freedom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdTTlj97xYc
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>>26294488
America created the Earth and its' atmosphere. I never knew that. You either be trollin or are a ZOG profligate that eats too much BPA and TV commercials.
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>>26293820
Im with you brother. These smug breeders always push us to breed so we can be miserable like them. Fuck them childfree for life.
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>>26293396
What do we do about the epidemic of educated people in a modern country growing up to choose not to be power-rednecks, breeding out of control and polluting the world with their ridiculous mind viruses?
Nothing. This is what we want.
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>>26294760
this isnt even hidden knowledge because nobody can do anything to stop it. they are just artifically controlling supply and demand
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/v/ called it five years ago

Also fuck off with copypasta.
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>>26295038

>get married, they said
>have children, they said
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>>26293546
>>26293670

original jews
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Woman comes here and calls US children. That's too rich
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>>26294561
Like... I get the reasoning behind some of these posters.

The folks who get angry at NEETs for example. The society that allows them their existence is crumbling and they aren't going anything to stop it. But it is believed they should, because it facilitates them.

People just don't understand the conflicts of robots, or even cyborgs. The hoops to jump through in order to lead a normal life are obscene now, and nobody in the older generations understands.

They don't get that a woman can take an average picture of herself (no matter how attractive she actually is) and slap it on social media. In a short period of time should could have potentially thousands of followers. Even a fraction of them actually commenting could number in the hundreds. All this feeding her ego. You, as an average guy, telling her she's pretty or whatever means fuck all. She get's that all the time. The bar is raised ever higher, and the return is pushed even lower.

That is just example. And people just don't understand, and they never will. We are constantly told we NEED to do this. But until they also need to, they'll never understand.
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>>26293396

Love them.

Seriously, that's all it takes.
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Everyday this thread gets remade; and everyday it gets 100+ replies.
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>not interested in having children or starting families

>Not being antinatalist
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>>26295556
Words,words, so many words, fuck the robot
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>>26293396
>Instead of making a family, and most importantly, children,
HA
fuck no.
i just hate those pathetic little shit of kids. they are the worst
worlwide must be a policy of 1 child per family.
the world is full of fucking people
people are shit.
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Want an honest reply?

Have you actually tried living with a woman? I'm currently living with a gf, it's the second time I've tried. She's sweet, very caring and nurturing, a good person, but holy fuck I am so bored. This happens to me in every relationship. I've had like 12 girlfriends now in my life, 6 of em lasted about a year, and I've dated over 50 women, so I know women.

Women are fucking boring. They blather on about the most stupid, boring shit imaginable. For example, I have a boring job. I go to work, make money, and leave work. I don't talk about my job outside of work, there is no point in doing so. I have shit I do outside of work, like teaching dance lessons, working out, and playing video games. My gf, on the other hand, absolutely needs to complain about her job for an hour a day. Every woman I've dated is like this. They need to rant about their day, every fucking day, and it's always the same shit.

When I'm single, I take 10 mins in the grocery store, 15-20 mins cooking, and then I eat while watching TV, reading, or whatever.
With a woman, shopping takes 30 mins, cooking takes 30-60, and then when you eat you have to sit at the table for 60 minutes and talk about "your day" (listening to her complain about her job)

I'm so fucking bored of it. I can't possibly imagine how I could get married and put up with this shit every day, let alone father children with these creatures
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>>26293396
There is no epidemic.

You rely on faulty reasoning about society. You were told A, B, C so you keep trying to force A,B,C, despite the fact that society will continue to evolve and move forward without you toward D, E, F.

all this contrarian conservative logic here

Stop worrying about what other people do with their lives and trying to control them
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>>26295739
having kids is a good distraction

kids make you so goddamn busy that you can't sit down and realize how shit it all is
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>>26295782
I could imagine having kids with a woman who I truly felt was my best friend, as they say you're supposed to feel about your spouse... but I've never met a woman who comes remotely close.

Feminism lied to me. We're not the same. Men and women are DRASTICALLY different. It's not socially constructed. There must be hard-wired biological reasons why men like things like physics and video games, and women love to sit and blabber on and gossip about shit and talk about food, and take pictures of food. I've never met a single woman in my life with whom I could spend an entire day and not get bored.
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>>26295841
you need to watch the series called Brainwash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E577jhf25t4

it completely breaks down all the SJW gender study bullshit pretty well
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It used to be that as a man, pretty much just by existing you could get a job, a nice wife, kids, a house, etc... to the extent that even people who didn't want them, ended up with them, or people who really shouldn't have had them did. Like, even 1/10 guys could get that.

Nowadays, you have to be like a solid 8/10 in all departments to get that same outcome, and if you can't, then society blames you for not being up to snuff enough. Not to mention that it's generally just so much harder with a worse economy and job market, housing market, and how heavily things have shifted in favor of women (laws) not to mention just how women are now socially, that you'd be lucky to find a good girl over 5/10 because of wymyns rights and casual sex being encouraged and stuff.

Basically, even as recently as 20 years ago, pretty much all guys WANTED to get a job, get married, make a family. Now, guys don't want to get married, even normal functioning guys in increasing numbers.

>Life then; a good wife, kids, a house, and a good honest job you could work for to provide for your family
>Life now; a wife who's been around the block if she even feels like settling for you and will probably be unfaithful at some point and cause a divorce that will go in her favor, shitty kids because of this and also modern society, a crap house you don't and may never own, and wage slavery in a shit job

Across the board universally, the basic life goals of men have gotten worse. It says something powerful, that men today are happier sitting in their rooms at a computer surrounded by toys and being manchildren, than even trying to get the life of a "proper" man of the past. The struggle is just not worth it because the reward has been devalued.
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>>26295739
Its almost like living with your mom
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>>26295862

in the past, married couples got around this because they didn't view marriage as we do now.

Wife stayed at home, took care of the house, and socialized with other women. Women love to sit around and gossip with each other. I imagine their lives actually weren't bad.

Men would go out into the working world and work/socialize with each other and lead fulfilling lives. They didn't need to talk economics, stock market, astro-physics, or whatever with their wives.
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yet another bait thread successful. good one OP!
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The problems are many, but you can look at it in a really simple light; how many women today can cook compared to women in the past?

Used to be as a woman you were required to know how to cook, and well. Now, it's sexist and offensive to ask or assume a woman can cook. Not should, just can.

It doesn't speak to all the problems with the situation, but it's a great litmus test that speaks to society and family values, and how men and women feel towards one another.
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>>26295739
That.

All women want is having male slaves they can call husbands or bfs. Once you realize that they are easy to get and painfully boring. Sometimes they are hiding this under the guise of some sophistication - but they never have any real passions or hobbies. They only do what they think others expect them to do. Males usually do what they want as long as they can get away with it. Modern civilization lets us get away with much more than even 30 years ago.

And yes this is a biological thing. I realized that once I got into horses. I have a few, spend a lot of time with them and it is super clear that mares, sires and geldings are dramatically different. Thats the same thing with people, only the cultural bullshit makes us pretend its not the case.
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>>26293396
Yes let's make more children, not like overpopulation is an issue or something like that
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>>26293396
>solve
they are modern day slaves. they are the solution to overpopulation and competition getting out of control. we teach them to be perpetual children to make life easier for us. there's no "problem" here. they are happy, we are happy, everybody wins. even better that most of them still help the economy with work and spending.
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I've tried dating it's too much work. It makes sense to me that women would do more work in relationships in the past if men had to work full-time. To have to work full-time and then also devote lots of energy to a relationship is far too much. If both men and women were to work, it should have ended up with us both working 20 hours a week. With us both working 40 hours a week there's no point in raising a family or even having a relationship.
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>>26293462
this.
Some wise guy once said something along the lines:
"if men could fuck women in paper houses, there would be no skyscrapers"
Guess what happened with feminism?
Men cant fuck women in skyscrapers anymore. Women just choose based on genetics. And all of them choose the same guys.
Why should men struggle to reach the stars as they did before, if women dont appreciate it?
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>>26295862
dude this is fucking fascinating so far, thx for posting
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"beta tech jobs" are a very important part of the wealth of the western world.
If you really don't want there kind of guys to exist you have to bring back traditional family values to make relationships better for men and also you have to somehow brainwash women to be attracted to those men.
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haha OP is pathetic brainwashed loser, having kids just to prove to yourself is selfish and irresponsible, coz dem kids will grow up to be the same normie scum ands the cycle continues....
die in hell OP, youre the reason for all the suffering in the world.
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>>26293396
Perhaps if we were treated better, accommodated within society, or at the very least shown respect, we might actually want to contribute to society.

But as it stands we have been bullied all our lives, thrown into the rat race with a crippled leg, and left to rot. All the while being insulted and ridiculed for out weakness by savage assholes who then turn around and ask why there are so many people who opt-out of society.

If this trend continues there will be more and more mass-shootings like the ones we've already seen. When these individuals finally realize how screwed their lives are and how unfair everything is, they will snap and start killing their oppressors and abusers in revenge.
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>>26294370
>Just go to /pol/, you'll see bunch of manchildren who claim it's the society/woman/jews/degeneracy/whatever is the reason why they can't get a girlfriend.

There's a big difference between "can't get a girlfriend" and "don't want a girlfriend".
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>>26295862
Holy fuck those "social scientists"...

They both begin with the same line: "I find it FASCINATING that someone would use so much energy on finding biological differences in gender" which doesn't really say anything about the subject at hand, rather it's an indirect ad hominem

Then they take actual data from the biologists' studies and say that it's fabricated and bent to fit a certain worldview.

These are the people in Norwegian universities teaching and practicing their 'science'.

"I must rely on science, right?"
"They haven't found the actual gene and I will not believe it until they can point the exact gene!"

I'm not even redpilled but jesus.
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>>26297712
Blaming other people is why you're in the mess you are, not because there's some conspiracy to keep you down
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>>26297806
>Blaming other people is why you're in the mess you are, not because there's some conspiracy to keep you down

If you have been treated like shit your entire life for being different, then yes other people are your problem. I make 45k a year, I'm set financially. I just don't have any interest in making friends or "participating in my community" because me and normies just don't click. I prefer video games and being a manchild outside of work because the world has shunned me, so I have shunned the world.
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>>26297806
why do people try baiting with stereotypical garbage least if you want to troll someone try trolling real people on facebook much more fun than here
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>>26297806
Lots of people got bullied for things out of their control. Bullying leaves a pretty big mark on someone(if it's real bullying, not just being called a faggot once or having to sit alone on lunch).
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>get suffrage
>immediately vote en bloc to turn society into THE FEELINGSSPHERE where it's ALL FEELINGS ALL THE TIME, DO YOU WANT SOME FREE BIRTH CONTROL? DO YOU FEEL SAD? DO YOU WANT SOME OF MY TAX MONEY TO DRY YOUR TEARS? FEELINGS!
>get "sexual liberation"
>immediately turn into fucking whores and dissolve the family unit
>be breadwinner in 0.1% of cases
>initiate 80% of divorces
>win alimony (i.e. slavery of men) in 90% of applicable cases
>win children and thus child support in 114% of cases
>still not happy
>bitch and scream and cry that legal favoritism isn't enough, you now need cultural favoritism
>men need to be thoughtpoliced 24/7 for any sign that they might even THINK about making you feel badfeelies
>ALSO, DID YOU KNOW THAT LITERALLY EVERYTHING OTHER THAN GIVING ME MONEY IS RAPE? YOU'RE RAPING ME RIGHT NOW BY DISAGREEING!
>university (formerly the center of free and dissenting thought) turned into Post-Masculine Cooterplex, with literally special zones for women to go and pet puppies when they feel sad about a fucking lamp not being plugged in (incidentally also a man's fault, also rape)
>scream bitch cry bitch moan piss cry whine cry cry cry fucking cry nonstop
>all you do cry bitch and fucking whine for three consecutive generations
>stomp and grind men into the dirt over and over again
>just when men think they can't be any more circumscribed and bounded by women's delicate little feelings, it gets exponentially worse with each decade
>men's entire lives are supposed to revolve around pandering to women
>their reward
>MEN ARE NOW HISTORY'S VILLAINS! FEEL LIKE SHIT ALL THE TIME
>LOL YOU WANTED A WIFE? YOU GET LIFELONG CELIBACY! WOOO STATISTICALLY DEMONSTRABLE RETURN TO HYPERGAMY, GIANT UNDERCLASS OF UNMARRIED MEN, ENJOY DYING A VIRGIN ALSO BTW HATE YOURSELF CONSTANTLY FOR BEING A VIRGIN
>ALSO BTW WE'LL BE DRESSING IN PAINTED-ON NON-CLOTHING FROM AGE 13, JUST TO REALLY RUB YOUR LONELINESS IN
>why are men dropping out of society??? :S idgi
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>>26293396
Maybe stop actively making participation in society less worthwhile to them?
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>>26293396
Spending your money on motorbikes, cars, power tools, or on other Hobbies is wrong? You're unhappy with your life.
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>>26297806
fuck you nigger, i'd rather stay in here
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>>26298337
"When people can't control their own emotions they start trying to control others behaviour" this desu famjam
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This isn't just a male probably, it's Gen Z entierly
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>>26293396
You sound like an old man who can't deal with the world changing.
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>>26295862
Honestly, watch that. And this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TMDFD1s4WY

It's the fifth part of that documentary series (about sex) and the actual scientists are basically explaining everything that your average robot would. It's actually unbelieveable. A little after pic related the girls are asked what they'd want for a life companion and suddenly they want that beta provider.
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>>26293396
>all these people failing to recognize stale pasta

What the actual fuck happened to this board?
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>>26293396
>How do we save society from these betas?
Reinstate traditional gender roles, bring back arranged marriages, change the government so citizens that don't own multi-million dollar corporations can influence its decisions.
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Why do you think the problem is exclusive to white males?
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>>26299129
>And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TMDFD1s4WY
>liberated
>liberated
>liberated
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>>26293396
>dropping out of life meme
You piece of old shit don't decide what "life" means

Maybe 70 years ago having a stable job + 2 kids and a wife = life
Nowadays you cannot even find a 18+ women who hasn't taken 10 cocks and 2 abortions already
"Life" has changed its meaning
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>>26295038
>>26294852

>mfw she says her name
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>>26299417
That's the buzzword they love to throw around nowadays.
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>>26293462
My life is so much better without thinking about women
Spending all my money on my hobby, build my own life, just 5 mins fap would make women useless in every way
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>>26293396
Why stop it? Who cares?
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>>26293396
Fuck you faggot. Its my money and I can do whatever the fuck I want with it.
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>>26293597
This
Normies are more aftiad than robots. If you break normies certain codes and rules they freak out
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>>26293723
>confirmed never worked in a company or only did part time subhuman job
Women even themselves know that career life is such a lie that they only use it on Facebook to brag about.
In reality everyone knows how it is and how gender roles just cannot change no matter what you lie on the Internet, especially women themselves know it
Even a normie and chad wouldn't want a crazy career women who don't take care of the family
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>>26293396
why indeed

firstly its mainly down to women attitudes to men

a good man has to have the looks of a Chad and lots of money

two: thanks to mainstream media and 3rd wave feminism white men are demonized and its even worst if he happens to be a husband and a father

there are also the Divorce courts that favor women more then men even if the mother is a hardcore drug user the father will lose

are the numbers are stacked against men

and its not just for adults its starting to effect young boys too! lets face it its criminal to be a white male

so that is why we lock our selves away with our toys and money

we will come out when things are better
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>>26299610
Why do you people always talk about careers?

My mother never cared for a career, but she still never stopped working full-time at the job because of the money.
>>
I started saving $1000 / month in a savings account then I'm gonna transfer into my mutual fund when I hit $10000
I declined to sign up for the 401(k) because they only full match to 2.5% and I don't plan to live in retirement
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>>26293396
> its beautiful isn't it
> who are you to judge cumstain
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>>26299836
Because if you aren't progressing along a career path, in an upwards direction, then your life has no meaning.
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>>26299129

>The rate of genetic cuckoldry is 10-12%

Jesus Christ what the fuc
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>>26293396
We don't. This is natural selection at it's finest. Yes, natural selection is still alive and well in the modern world, it just adapted.

And if you still think it doesn't exist then please explain to me all the miserable robots in this place and everywhere else in the world.
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How the fuck do we solve the normalfag epidemic?

I mean, so many cuckolds are just becoming complacent, brain-dead consumers because they're pathetic betas. Instead of playing high quality video games, and most importantly, watching Toradora, they just play LoL and have sex with vapid sluts like good goyim, encouraging degenerate behavior.

I personally know at least 76 billion of these subhumans, and they all have certain things in common.

>went to university to get a worthless degree in psychology or philosophy
>earn a tiny amount of money, usually working in retail or fast food
>either waste the money on trivial horseshit or save it for no apparent reason, or waste on LoL costumes and expensive blacked.com subscriptions
>have absolutely no interest in politics, history, anything else
>politically passive, don't give a fuck about what's happening to their country
>absolutely NO productive hobby, 95% of free time is spent in front of their phones watching degenerate cuck porn or playing pointless timesink video games
>not interested in long term polygamous relationships with 2D women
>not interested ascending to a higher level of consciousness

What the fuck do we do? How do we save society from these cuckslaves?

Pic unrelated. Watch Toradora again.
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men are never single by choice

if a man is a shut in and plays videogames all day it's because women don't want him

so OP should be asking them why they consider so many guys subhuman
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>>26293604
oy vey that's rational thinking get out you racist
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>>26293396
Being politically active is pointless when 99% of people are against your beliefs. Might as well give up.
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>>26302519
Isn't Toradora a normie anime?
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>literally everything is against you
>hate for being white
>hate for being male
>hate for being middle class
>hate for daring to be under 6 feet
>hate for daring to look ugly
>hate for disagreeing with it all
And yet you still wonder why we don't even try?
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>>26293396

Didn't even finished reading, directly spotted the bait.

i r8 3/10
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>>26303547
Now you know how all those minorities that you oppressed for thousands of years feel.
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>>26303585
>I've been alive for thousands of years
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>>26293396
Oh no thanks i already had pasta today
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>>26302400
Because the term is incorrect. Natural selection is irrelevant given the current state of medicine. The term you're looking for is sexual selection. It's even more cruel in a way since all the rejects live to see what they're denied and their only choices are some form of slavery or suicide. Society won't recognize or alleviate their suffering.

So we have to self medicate through escapism.
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>>26303602
Yes. You personally. You enslaved Europe from Rome. YOU went, en masse, to the middle-east and slaughtered all those poor, innocent shitskins. YOU dragged every black man onto all the ships and sailed them to america and YOU put them in chains and forced them to work. YOU told women they couldn't vote and beat all of them until they had sex with you.

Come to think of it, you're a pretty tough guy.
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>>26303729
But was I the black king in Africa selling slaves to the Europeans for favor?

Oh wait, that's the truth and oppressive, never mind.
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>>26293396
>I mean, so many white males are just dropping out of life because they're pathetic betas
I think it's more because society has abandoned them. White males, if anything, are demonized and shunned in modern society. It's expressed by politicians, bloggers, the media, etc. Their nations don't have loyalty to them, so what loyalty should they feel to society?

>Instead of making a family, and most importantly, children, they just rot in front of their computers every single day
Most are socially retarded because their impression of normal relationships was warped by early exposure to porn, being raised by a single parent, or lack of socialization due to being too immersed in the highly stimulating worlds of television, internet, and videogames. What motivation have they to improve? What future do they have ahead of them? The ghost of Nihilism plagues the white man.
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>>26303798
No, you were the evil white guy who went over there before he started doing that and convinced him to do it in the first place.
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>>26294256
How much of it is memery though?
On 4chan it's difficult to tell when someone is being sincere.
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If you want an honest answer, start a war and start conscripting people.

In life we have to make a choice between boredom and suffering, one of these leads to a purposeful existence the other stagnates. People need something to be proud of.
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when is this meme going to die?
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>>26295221
Cool story, except the bit about college being free. if you consider the US, college has affirmative action for Blacks, Mexicans and Whites while higher than average requirements are placed on model minorities such as Asians and Indians. Guess which box Jews who make up a large segment of colleges in the US tick off for their ethnicity, if you guessed white then well done to you.

As per the world, college is costly training that an individual pays himself, typically through large debts, prior to being considered for work. This is in sharp contrast to trades (and in the past in regard to college) where the burden of training rests on the hirer. As such college is a capitalist's dream come true, where all the risk of training is passed onto individuals without capital.
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>>26293396
>I mean, so many white males are just dropping out of life because they're pathetic betas. Instead of making a family, and most importantly, children, they just rot in front of their computers every single day, watching anime or playing stupid video games.

thats the way it is girls sorry
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>>26303702
>The term you're looking for is sexual selection.
Whatever the best term is, this IS nature weeding out the weak and defective.
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>>26304046
>suffering
>purposeful existence
lul
>>
Rate my life guys:

>6'4
>254lbs
>decent facial aesthetics and am told I have very masculine features by men and women
>reasonably strong due to training, get comments on how big my chest and shoulders are
>spend 45-90 minutes per day practising drum rudiments + 30-45 minutes of playing on the kit
>wake up early every morning regardless of day or time of year
>maintain hygiene as well as house cleanliness
>double majoring in chem/math with a minor in physics
>highly disciplined
>people think I'm funny
>have long hair
>kissless virgin
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>>26293923
IMO it's less about shit and more about the type of people you're around.

Capable, driven people want to be around other capable, driven people and with society gradually shifting from oligarchy to meritocracy (swings of the pendulum aside, think of the general trend between 1500AD and today) it becomes easier for such people to acquire shit.

Plenty of rich people are miserable. Maybe even most of them. Granted, they don't worry about keeping a roof over their heads or paying bills (with the exception of the huge percentage of rich people living beyond their extensive means, because poor self control and lack of foresight exist at all income levels) but the fact that most rich people who did not inherit their wealth (and many who did) toil long hours to the detriment of meaningful social contact results in them being unhappy.
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no cunts allowed, fund your own shit
no hymen no diamond
no prenup no 'marriage'
roasty toasty toasty
hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng
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>>26303585
yeah one bad turn deserves another
>>
Relationships are shitty and not worth it, I didn't choose to exist. Let the world get overrun by niggers or what ever, the planet's going to get popped by the Sun eventually. Could be dead tomorrow so why spend a day not doing what you want to do?
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>>26293396
>men
what about women becoming clubsluts and getting title IX jobs where they do nothing all day and make a career out of it?

the problem is bigger than just video games
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have you ever gotten your heart broken? I dont want to put it out there anymore
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