Mostly because of his record on LGBT stuff. I'm trans hi.
Hilary did the whole DOMA supporting thing. Who are you wanting to win? I hope you're watching msnbc because me too.
Yes go team Sanders! Can understand about TV news. Shit gets old.
I'm hoping Bernie can actually change things. I remember the hope and change stuff Obama went on about but he didn't get to do much. Largely because of gridlock bs but also he's moderate.
I'm supporting Bernie because Hillary might as well be a republican,
Only Bernie's higher taxes and greater funding of public services will prevent America from becoming even more oligarchical,
very good point
Genitals? I still live somewhere where it's legal to fire me just for being trans. So this stuff is really important to me and human rights go far beyond my genitals
>voting based on the fact that people are still allowed to treat your mental disorder like a mental disorder instead of coddling your delusions like a bunch of braindead cucks
still pretty garbage desu senpai
>obama didn't GET to do much
obama, almost purposefully, fucked everything up. his record on civil rights and foreign policy has been the same globalist oligarchical horseshit that has been pouring out of washington for the past 50 years, only he's paid lip service to specific meaningless social issues that pander to you and yours. sanders will be exactly the same. don't kid yourself, and especially don't attempt to justify all the terrible things obama did as the fault of gridlock when all the worst shit he did was a direct result of executive orders he signed personally. he was not forced to sign them by republicans. he is solely, and fully, responsible for his actions and the consequences thereof.
you say transphobia, i say scientifically and medically proven fact. stomping around yelling for trans rights is (logically and morally) equivalent to telling schizophrenics that the voices in their head ARE real and they should DEFINITELY put that baby in a microwave, or telling people with depression that they ARE worthless human garbage who should just save everyone else the effort of having to deal with them.
People with mental illnesses actually have discrimination protections in place. So if you think trans is a mental illness you should support our anti-discrimination measures.
>hurr durr your equivalency is bad
logically and morally equivalent. you are inflaming and exacerbating a mental condition, and it only ends up hurting the sufferers.
employers are not obligated to keep someone on staff whose disability interferes with their ability to do work. employers ARE obligated to attempt to accommodate disabilities, but at the end of the day should not be forced to keep someone on staff who makes their company worse.
one day, stem cell tech and neuroscience will be advanced enough to fix the errors in your brain construction that we KNOW exist. it is the best possible cure for gender dysphoria, since we know that any positive effects transitioning has are short lived at best. what remains to be seen, of course, is whether or not society will allow such a treatment to be researched/practiced at all (STOP INVALIDATING MUH GENDER IDENTITY)
>you are inflaming and exacerbating a mental condition, and it only ends up hurting the sufferers
which makes it equivalent to microwaving a baby.
logically and morally.
Genetic modification of humans is a moral grey area, yes. I wouldn't be sure if I would be for it or against it, personally.
In the meantime though, since that technology is several generations away, isnt transitioning still the best way to treat the symptoms of gender dysphoria (depression, anxiety, etc.)?
>why would my being trans interfere with my work?
that would depend on your job, wouldn't it? if you can't think of any one possible example of your condition interfering with a workplace, that's on your lack of imagination--but maybe yelling about your delusions all the time just leads to an uncomfortable work environment for both coworkers, management, and clientele. it is well within your employer's right to make that decision if accommodation cannot be made.
>i can be fired for any or no reason
haha welcome to the working world cunt. i've been shit canned for filing injury reports for chemical burns that were entirely the fault of management. i've been fired because i was the one white guy left in a kitchen full of bangladeshi dudes. i've been fired for all kinds of bullshit reasons. it's not the end of the fucking world. it is literally a non-issue, as i'm sure you can find plenty of idiotic SJW employers who'll eagerly coddle your disorder.
im not a disruptive employee. Especially not for my gender. But I work for a private Christian company and worry that they will fire me. Maybe getting fired is no big deal for you but it would be a serious blow to me. It was hard getting this job.
>Genetic modification of humans is a moral grey area
nowhere did i say genetic modification, i said stem cells and neuroscience. the stem cells would correct the difference in brain tissue that leads to your persistent delusion that you are "the wrong gender".
>I wouldn't be sure if I would be for it or against it, personally.
too bad it's not up to you, as gender dysphoria presents as an intense desire to mutilate one's body and is comorbid with tons of other self-harm. you are a danger to yourself in your current condition, and at the end of the day you will always refuse treatment that is anything except "carve my genitalia into a poor facsimile of the opposite gender's" because YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL AND YOUR ILLNESS WILL NOT ALLOW IT.
>isnt transitioning still the best way to treat the symptoms of gender dysphoria (depression, anxiety, etc.)?
for an incredibly short period of time. long-term, depression, anxiety, self-harm etc are all unaffected by transitioning. transitioning does not fix your brain. transitioning doesn't make you pass. transitioning doesn't give you normally functioning sex organs, let alone reproductive ones. you will never be the gender your disorder has convinced you you are, and you will be stuck like that forever despite how much you might attempt to alleviate it.
if you actually cared about trans people, you would advocate for a cure instead of muh gender neutral bathrooms. a cure is both possible, feasible, and ACTUALLY MEANINGFUL.
Yes Kasich seems like the most reasonable republican. He actually wanted to discuss the issues and not make it all about outlandish and untrue comments about planned parenthood and things.
>the stem cells would correct the difference in brain tissue that leads to your persistent delusion that you are "the wrong gender"
i'm actually very interested to hear where you heard that this was a thing.
just on a scientific level. i want to know if there has been any research done on using stem cells to alter neurochemistry.
>someone should be able to be FIRED for making others feel offended
this is called a hostile/disruptive work environment, and yes, people should be ALLOWED to be fired for it.
>im not a disruptive employee
then don't fucking worry about it. even the worst bigots will keep people they normally hate in their employ because "he may be a nigger but he shuts the fuck up and he works hard" or whatever the fuck.
Surgery isn't self-harm.
And my problem about your proposed solution is that it would literally be changing a person into someone completely different. I can't even imagine what a male version of me would be like.
Not the poster you've been talking to btw. Just trans poster.
not neurochemistry, the physical brain structure. every dickhead with gender dysphoria waves around the study that traces it to differences in brain structure, so if you haven't seen it by now it's not my fucking fault. it's not exactly a great logical leap to say that one could grow stem cells in such a way as to alter the cell structure of existing organs, is it?
your desire to mutilate your genitals and warp your body with hormones because of your mental disorder is the DEFINITION of self-harm
>And my problem about your proposed solution is that it would literally be changing a person into someone completely different.
like i said. the problem with "my" solution is not that it won't work, because it is definitely within the realm of possibility and if accomplished will serve to fix the exact cause of your (allow me to reiterate because you still haven't fucking got it) MENTAL ILLNESS. the problem with it is that trans advocates like yourself are building a world where it will be morally wrong to invalidate muh gender identity, DAMN the cause and DAMN the consequences I'VE GOT A FEEL GOOD CRUSADE TO GO ON
Don't tell me not to worry about it. Trans people are discriminated against when it comes to things like housing, too. Which is fucking legal in my state still.
I'll feel a little better when i have legal recourse I can take following something like this. How can you possibly be okay with people being denied housing for their gender?
>it's not exactly a great logical leap to say that one could grow stem cells in such a way as to alter the cell structure of existing organs, is it?
except that's a huge fucking logical leap.
why would i just assume that a nascent, speculative field of medicine would be able to alter the structure of the least well-understood structure in the human body?
that's why i asked for a source. i wanted to know if a study had been done specifically on altering the brain with stem cells, or if you were just pulling things out of your ass.
>I base my choice for sole leader of the executive branch on my personal sexual fetish xD
You're the reason politics are absolutely fucked in this country. You're totally ignorant on the issues. You're totally ignorant about what's going on behind the scenes.You're totally ignorant about your congressional representatives even within your own fucking state. Those who win your vote do so on the basis of 1 contrived, fake-issue, like "lol marijuana legalize it" or "abortion is bad!" or "gays also want the right to combine income with a partner on their yearly taxes so they can be taxed in a higher bracket and lose money, just like heterosexuals do!" You are exactly the pawn that big media wants you to be. You are essentially a political zombie and dance for your masters when commanded.
Nobody cares that you are trans. It's not a relevant issue and it's not important. It's not your "lifestyle" or your "identity", though try hard as you may to make it so. Further, if the second thing you do when introducing yourself to a new person is to explain your private, sexual fetishes in an attempt to force others to not only accept them, but enthusiastically support them, you are a perverted, sanctimonious fucking loser lacking any captivating character traits. You cannot use "I'm gay" as your personality; and no, people aren't "homophobic" for thinking you're a boring, obnoxious fag for trying to convince them that "I'm gay" is an acceptable description of your personality, or defense of your political philosophy.
Polite people don't talk about their sexual fetishes, because they realize I don't want to imagine them naked with their dicks out sweating and plowing a fat girls hairy, smelly vag. I don't want to imagine you fervently ramming another man's bleeding, dirty asshole bareback until you cum. If I wanted to imagine you naked, I would ask. Until then, don't share intimate details about your life with me; I don't want to know.
Whether it's legal or not, employers will always fire people for being mentally ill. It's also not illegal to fire people who are plain unlikeable and bad components of a social structure. Most trans people tend to be annoying, whiny, pretentious, and regrettably ugly looking. It's not illegal to fire you based on that.
It doesn't really matter what's legal or not legal, because employers can just say you were not a competent worker, or make any other excuse to let you go. It's impossible to prosecute them.
You began the process of becoming the opposite gender because you like the roles associated with the opposite gender, sexual and otherwise. You chose to take on the secondary, and if post-operation, a vague resemblance of the primary sexual characteristic, of the opposite sex. You like the form and function of your new sexual organs and other secondary sexual parts of your body. You like how this makes you feel and relate with other people. This turns you on in bed.
It sounds like a fucking fetish to me. Regardless, as I said, this is a personal issue. It's also a gruesome issue and it is rude to talk about it. As I said, nobody cares and most would prefer not to hear about it. "Being trans" is not an important part of your personality, and if you think it is then you're a fucking boring person. If your most salient characteristic is "I chopped my fucking dick off please accept me", as evidenced by the fact that you eat, breath, live, and make political decisions based on it, then the rest of your personality is obviously underdeveloped or just plain boring.
>literal trannies ITT
Can't wait til Based Trump gases you all
that wrinkly old fuck is gonna be dead before his inauguration
>the stem cells would correct the difference in brain tissue that leads to your persistent delusion that you are "the wrong gender".
You realize this has virtually nothing to do with being trans, right?
You realize that in the USA, a statistically significant portion of newborns have their gentials surgically altered because the doctor arbitrarily decides that they are the wrong size, right? That a male baby whose doctors decide his penis is too small will routinely be surgically reassigned as female, usually without the parents' knowledge?
You realize that being trans is generally a physiological issue, not a psychological one, right?
Those are all rhetorical questions, because you have already proven with every post that you know literally nothing about the actual science you love invoking.
Bernowitz Sanderberg supporters are literally trannies.
>jew lover gassing people
The medical community "(in general)" does not comment on whether this meme-idea of transgenderism is a silly sexual fetish or not. They simply make the cuts and perform the superfluous surgeries because it's good for business. If you don't see the obvious profit incentive, you're an idiot. I'll also point out the fact that attempted suicide rates after completion of the "transition" are very high, demonstrating that those who choose this path are not happy at the result.
You don't find it curious that in every other mental illness begetting delusions that don't reflect reality, psychologists tell patients to resist the delusion, constantly reorienting the patient to reality and explaining that the delusion is not real? Yet, when patients suffer from a delusional feeling that they are of the opposite sex, the psychologist's plan is to make the patient give in to the delusion, feed it, tell it that it is right, exacerbate it, and help it to grow, while writing a letter of recommendation for an expensive, needless surgery that cuts near major arteries and alters the most sensitive part of your body and the single most important part of your body as far as your sexual function is concerned? This makes sense to you?
But no, you must be correct. The medical community performs these surgeries that cost multiple-thousands of dollars not because they are swayed or biased by profit incentive, but because of the goodness in their warm hearts which truly leads them to the unbiased conclusion that this is a valid answer for a patient coming into the shrink's office with a simple delusion.
I'll also follow up by saying that although I've defeated you in this dumb conversation, none of it matters to me. This is what I hate about the modern left in america. They drag you into these dumb arguments about topics and issues that don't matter at all. It's inaccurate of me to even describe them as "issues", because the meaning of that word implies that there is some sort of real problem, when none exists. The fact that you woke up one day and decided to "be transgender" doesn't affect me or anyone else. Nobody is living or dying based on the outcome of this issue. It doesn't matter.
It's so hard not to debate leftists when they talk about their inane garbage, because they draw you in by saying things that are so pitifully stupid, you can't help but comment on how stupid it plainly is. Once they've drawn you in to this argument, they've won. They record the conversation on their $750 iPhone that they pay $60 monthly to use, then upload it to youtube while levying baseless character assassinations against you ("he's a racist homophobic cis-gender patriarchal misogynist"). That's all they're interested in. They don't want to debate; they want to record you defeating their arguments plainly and then assassinating your character in a group setting to fit in with the cool kids because liberalism is the "in" thing right now and they have to do something cool to get invited to the next party where they'll meet their next bang, another short white 20 year old with twelve past sexual partners who wears an olive drab military-style parka 5 days of the week and has one small tattoo on her ankle of something her grandpa said before he died.
Something like 23% of people who identify as trans were molested as children.
For the general population it's like 3-4%
I'm not going to say every tranny is just fucked in the head, but at least a plurality of them have some unrelated body dysmorphia illness and are expressing that mentally in a way that will get them at least some validation from society if not each other, in the same vein that paranoid schizophrenics sort of memetically concocted the idea of gangstalking.
I am even more convinced of this considering SRS doesn't have an appreciable impact on suicide rates of these people.
The psychiatric community doesn't have much to gain by falsely lending legitimacy to transsexuality. It's not a sexual fetish and it is a real thing. Hard to prove because it's a subjective experience, but I know. And I wish I could share the way dysphoria feels so others like you could understand.
Conversations aren't things you win or lose, and you sound very bitter and cynical. It's kind of sad.
Nothing except selling tons of therapies, drugs and surgeries, most of which are not covered by insurance so they can charge what they wish. Sorta like how plastic surgeons have nothing to gain from insecurities, right?
>But I work for a private Christian company and worry that they will fire me.
Jesus it's always the faggots that are the real bigots
>T-Those mean old Christians are gonna fire me
If the election comes down to Hillary vs Cruz, it's probably time for an officers rebellion, I am ok with the military refusing to swear loyalty to either of those candidates and forming a military junta to rule.
>you sound very bitter and cynical
I am bitter and cynical, and it is a strength.
> I wish I could share the way dysphoria feels
Why don't you explain to me why gender roles don't matter and "they don't actually exist" while simultaneously telling me that you felt so strongly attached to the opposite sex's gender roles that you decided to use a knife to cut off your fucking dick. Tell me about how that "feels" please.
Also explain how it "feels" to reconcile your cognitive dissonance for long enough to move around and do normal activities on the day-to-day.
Just kidding man, I don't care how you "feel". The left likes to "feel" a lot, not realizing that they're not my wife and thus, I don't care how they "feel". Your feelings are irrelevant to me and I don't have time to consider them.
>"Make sure you come in for your weekly visit that costs $100/hr, because I've used my Important Doctorate(R) to diagnose you with a Serious Condition(TM), but I can help you overcome it! It will be a long process involving more than 30 visits at least an hour in length each, but this will really help you because you really do have a real problem! Wait, come back! you're supposed to pay for my $100,000 PhD!"
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Doesn't have much to gain"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
It would be much more lucrative for the psychiatric community to try to convince us we're not women/men and need to pay for lots of drugs and therapy sessions to address our "disorder".
It's the endocrinologists and surgeons who are making money from transitions, while its the psychiatric community doing the research. Your bullshit doesn't add up.
Gender roles matter and do exist. And after transitioning my life improved drastically. I went from being a basement dwelling loser living with my dad to getting a sort of decent job, going back to school and doing well there, and even exercising a lot and doing more social things.
>That a male baby whose doctors decide his penis is too small will routinely be surgically reassigned as female, usually without the parents' knowledge?
I'm an RN in the labor & delivery floor of the largest hospital in michigan and I can say without hesitation that this is complete fucking bullshit, utter lies out of the mouth of a snake-tongued deceiver. The entire health care world is based on morality and patient-centered care and making decisions for a patient is 100% against the oath we all take and 100% against the general philosophy we all adhere to as health care professionals. If someone did something like this without getting proper consent, the affected parties could sue for multi millions of dollars.
I got my gender dysphoria diagnosis and letter for the endo and never visited the psychologist again. The solution you're proposing (that wouldn't work) of treating it as delusion would be the scenario you've sarcastically presented here.
Unless you think the psychs are making shady deals with endocrinologists and surgeons... You're like making a case against your belief in the matter
He diagnosed you, which created the potential for profit when you come back with more questions. do or don't, he did everything in his power to influence you toward becoming another dollar in his pocket.
He has nothing to do with the endocrinologists. The endocrinologist matters nothing to him. The endocrinologist begins where the psychiatrist ends, so he doesn't care. It just so happens that writing that letter of recommendation is also the best way to ensure you'll come back to him, too. There's not some massive conspiracy between medical staff and psychiatrists; there doesn't need to be, because every step along the way is looking to take your money in their own ways. Your shrink isn't going to say "you're fine, go home! :)" He has no horse in that race. Obviously he is going to diagnose you with anything that he can because he's a hundred thousand dollars in the hole for a piece of paper that he needs to pay off.
Now you're making the opposite argument, which is ridiculous. You're clearly decided in your belief and are just looking for possibilities that might lend your beliefs credibility.
This is really good bait, it sounds totally legitimate. But in the interest of truth, I have to tell you guys that it is actually 100% true. I'm an OB/GYN and I can honestly say that I release fewer male babies "as is" than I do male babies whose genitals I have mutilated for medical reasons or simply because I was bored or the father was a dick to me. Once I cut off every birthed penis over an entire month for no other reason than it made some cute nurses giggle when I held it up and pretended to suck on it. "Oooh yeah, you like that, baby boy? You like that?" I fucked all those nurses. Most of those "girls" I made by pee pee choppin' will kill themselves in their teens, but I could not possibly give less of a shit. I'm rich.
> memes are literally giving Bernie the magic needed to win
Come join us robots.
How did he make the opposite argument? There isn't some conspiracy, there is just a good amount of money to be made off people they have no actual fix for right now. They know therapy and pills won't work, so they instead sell surgeries, hormones and a little form to say you are good to go. Basically like a weed prescription, they just write the note for money and the rest up the chain get their piece.
It is sort of like how they used to just electroshock lunatics or pump them full of thorazine, they had no other fix, so they just say fuck it and do whatever they have. Psychiatry is a pseudoscience, always has been. There are no controls, no reproducible studies, etc. Neuroscience is the real science, but they still don't have fixes.
It is ludicrous to think the rest of the world has to go along with your delusion just cause you are a fuck up who happens to have some weird sexual dysfunction vs other delusions.
I'm voting for Hillary only because I want her and the colonel to split the democratic vote and indirectly make Trump win
This sounds super convincing and clearly everyone in the world does this at all hospitals everywhere without anyone ever exposing it and getting sued/jailed.
>Rubio looking like he's going to weasel his way to the nomination
>Bernie potentially about to win a state that Hillary was thought to have in the bag
So it's going to be a cuckservative versus a literal socialist cuck.
The West is truly finished.
robots dont care if ur a tranny u fucking normie FUCK RRRRREEEEEEEEEE
First he said the psychs were doing all they could to get me to keep coming back. When I told him that no, I got my note and never saw him again, he said it was "easy money". So which is it? Do the psychs want me back a bunch, or do they never want to see me again and take the quick buck?
Grasping at straws desu
It only works when society is tightly knit. American society is filled with random factions and little tribes of different cultures, it just won't function cause everyone is out to fuck everyone else. It works in some of the scandi countries, before they let in all the sand niggers of course, cause they were very tightly knit and all shared similar culture.
Of course they would love you back, but that doesn't mean they get it. They write the stupid note and let you go. When you come back butchered and fucked up from hormones in a few years, they will gladly take your business and you will trust them cause they did what you asked. Same reason a doctor will write an antibiotic prescription to someone with a cold just to make them happy, welcome to capitalist medicine.
Wrong. You clearly know nothing about the medical profession. Every doctor in the world does this. In fact, I was horrified when I learned I had to do it in med school, but it was all explained to me when I went to the yearly Every Doctor In The World Convention in Las Vegas that we schedule every year on September 29 because Jesus agreed not to let anyone get hurt or die on that day. Thing is, 95% of births are male. As doctors, we take an oath to re-calibrate that to 50-50 by any means necessary. We kill men and cut off their dicks all the time. Ever see a man in a coma? No. If a man so much as falls asleep in a hospital we throw him down the garbage chute. Last week I drugged every male patient in the hospital and lined them all up on the ground, then we all took turns shooting razor blades at their penises with rubber bands and bashing their testicles with mallets. The main focus of medicine in general is to cull the male population.
>supporting bernie "commie" sanders is such a joke and meme because he is a joke and a meme-tier politician
Top kek tumblr fags
I'm starting to get annoyed. Do you actually believe this nonsense or are you trolling? People like are partly why we're not taken seriously, and are discriminated against. I'm glad opinions like yours are losing public support
>Surgery isn't self-harm.
Any surgery that removes an organ that is functional and would remain so if there were no surgery is harm.
True Reassignment removes the reproductive organs, so is harm.
Clearly, that is why there is no documentation, proof or medical malpractice lawsuits. No one talks about it in the medical field cause everyone is great at keeping secrets forever and giant conspiracies always succeed, especially one filled with gossipy women.
Actually what I believe is you annoying weirdos should just be put asleep like dogs. You are a small fraction of the population and you are much more hassle than you are worth. Catering to such a small percentage of the population so they can piss and moan and try to fuck with everyone around them cause of their personal bullshit are detrimental to society and before you bring up some "muh religion" or "muh convervative" derision, I am an atheist and I believe in communism when we get rid of fuck ups of society such as you and other degenerates that ruin social cohesion. Bitchy minorities are a major problem for all societies, fuck off with your horseshit.
No, it is not self-harm. And the organs don't function properly because they're the wrong organs. If they functioned properly I could get pregnant.
I'm a productive member of society. What the fuck are you crying about?
Medical malpractice? That's hilarious. Medical malpractice is when we don't kill enough men or we let too many baby penises go unchopped. You are dreadfully uninformed, my friend.
No you aren't, we both know you are going out of your way to do dumb shit for your fucking crusade. Much like your single issue voting, that is how you live your life. You are some fucking tranny first, not a citizen or person. I am willing to bet money you go out of your way to make it an issue every chance you get, just like fucking vegans or those niggers that think everything is racist even when other black people who are normal and friendly don't get treated any differently, but never make the connection.
Yeah, I guess they miss the quota of dick skins since it is the parents choice. Weird that I still have my dick skin as a white american since my parents chose to. Or latinos who are commonly uncircumcised cause they are heavily catholic. You are terribly unconvincing here.
Circumcised? No, no, you idiot, we chop the whole fucking thing off. A circumcised male is still technically a male. We slice it down the middle and push it in to make a cunt. Or we drop the baby into the incinerator. What about this isn't making sense to you?
Why are you taking the obvious troll seriously? Are you autistic? Of course doctors and nurses aren't killing men and cutting off baby penises for laughs.
I don't talk about my gender AT ALL irl except to my counselor. Whom I attend free of charge through my school. It's actually a problem, because I'm kind of afraid to approach the subject even when I should. But I have bad social anxiety and I'm afraid people like you hate me. You've done nothing but make baseless assumptions and respond to obvious trolls since you've been here.
That's it, the AMA officially orders both of your wee wees be chopped off. One of you will be pleased about that, one of you will not. Report to the nearest holocauspital or face heavy penalties.
We both know you are full of shit. There is no point where you SHOULD approach the subject of your gender, cause who gives a flying fuck? Other than some romantic interest, it has no bearing on your life. If you look fucking weird or out of place, people are going to treat you strangely, cause it is odd. No different than if you have a hunchback or are in a wheelchair or something. It is strange and people don't want to be around it. No one is obliged to like you. I have been around trannies and homos and everything else, when it comes to business, I could give a fuck as long as you don't make it weird, I will do my fucking job and move on. In person life, I won't want to interact with you at all, cause I don't want to be around weirdos like that.
I'm not a weirdo, and sometimes it is appropriate to talk about. I can tell some of my coworkers do want to talk about it, and one nurse even brought it up. I didn't know how to respond and was just awkward in response.
Why do you have to be an asshole about this? I'm not hurting anyone and I'm a normal person. I don't deserve to be treated differently than others
If they want to talk about it, then you aren't bringing it up. They want to talk about it cause it is weird and you are an oddity to them.
I am an asshole about it cause your jerkoff as said you will vote for a candidate who is supposed to run the fucking military and deal with vetoing or approving congressional bills for the running of a country based solely on your stupid one issue delusion instead of shit that is good for all of society like maybe spending, stopping programs designed to send jobs overseas or bring in visa workers, giant tax loopholes for certain people and so on. You are a dumbass and should be drowned cause you are so fucking concerned with your stupid bullshit that you can't be bothered to actually look into real issues that also affect you, but affect others as well and are much more important than your stupid genitals.
Again you're making assumptions. I'm not ignorant on the other issues. And this IS something that would benefit society as a whole. Just because you don't care about it doesn't mean it's not a legitimate issue.
How? Explain how it would benefit the rest of us. You brought up one issue and said that is the reason you are voting for Sanders. The rest of the shit he proposes would bankrupt us, so again, how is he good for the rest of us? You just want us to pay for your bullshit, which is why I am OK with hate crimes against you and hope you all get killed. If you were reasonable people in any way and had any sort of breadth beyond "muh genitals", I might be more sympathetic.
You've been the one talking about social cohesion and all that. The sooner the ignorant masses get over other people being gay, trans, etc. the sooner we can work on becoming a more unified country. Sanders wouldn't bankrupt the country; he's the only one talking seriously about economic inequality and working for the middle and lower classes.
How is he going to solve the debts? taking away the money from hardworkers?
You need Trump for that, ameritard, stop thinking about you and think for your country for once.
The weaker you are, the more China and Russia will fuck you up.
Except you are all a small fraction of society. Social cohesion was for communism/socialism to work and we have a lot more social issues than just you weirdos, you are a tiny fraction of it.
His policies are a joke and they don't balance, It is obvious you don't make any money or have any actual work/life experience which is why you have these heavy social justice nonsense concerns instead of real shit like, why the fuck is the tax system so fucked up or why are our high paying jobs being given to indian monkeys through gaming the system? Bernie doesn't give a shit about that, Bernie just wants to give nignogs, hippy faggots and weirdos free shit to make them vote for him, then he can go on his jew book crusade later to make more shekels.
Hopefully by making military cuts. And ofc taxing the richest people a lot more. Taxing all of us a lot more, honestly. It would save us money overall. At least those in the middle and lower classes.
Trans people are a fraction of the population, but not an insignificant one. Other people beyond us want to see us treated fairly, and you wanting us to die off because you think we're inconvenient is pure idiotic fantasy.
>Hopefully by making military cuts
>Trans people are a fraction of the population, but not an insignificant one. Other people beyond us want to see us treated fairly, and you wanting us to die off because you think we're inconvenient is pure idiotic fantasy.
You are a very insignificant one. Even black people fucking hate you and they complain about being hated the most. It has been done before and we can do it again, there is only a small fraction of time where you fucking weirdos have been allowed to live and when shit hits the fan and society needs an enemy, you dipshits will be first on the list and I am fine with using their fear against you useless fucks cause you are a detriment to us in general as can be seen by your one issue bullshit and your lack of any real substance in your voting arguments. If we have to rile up religious nutjobs to clean you out, that seems like a reasonable sacrifice.
>being a robot
>not supporting the official robot candidate
Do you want your god damn autismbux or not? Trump is literally Chad the candidate. Most Republicans hate poors. Hillary is a Zionist shill.
Lol holy fuck, found the reddit shills.
Fuck off with your bullshit. Take it to /pol/ you fucks. Or have they chased you faggots off their board cuz they hurt your widdle cock sucking feelings? Faggots.
In all seriousness, I'm voting for him (if I can) because I want to break the ice on socialism in America. We're going to need this shit 20 years down the line when automation replaces all the transportation jobs and tons of other shit and irreversible Great Depression-level unemployment falls upon us. At least socialists will have some ideas about what to do, the right would just scream that it can't be real until they shot themselves and the rest of us in the foot for the next century. They're all way too far in on capitalism and free market, like they forgot it's just a structure for making things nice for people and started treating it as some kind of divinely appointed holy state for an economy to be in.
>voting for Bernie
>literally giving more handouts than any president ever has
>we're already in debt
>fuck us some more
Wake up, sheeple. We need Trump.
What has Obama even done that you would consider liberal? He continued the war on terrorism and the war on drugs, passed a bill requiring citizens to buy health insurance from private companies, and didn't even do anything about gay marriage.
i am not a part of this conversation at all but this is an incredibly retarded statement to make.
>sexual reassignment surgery is good for business
what? there are probably hundreds of these done across the country a year at most.
are you legit retarded enough to believe such an uncommon niche procedure is done regardless of medical status because of an insignificant amount of income?
Don't ever mention that you are trans on this board.
1) It's not really that important most of the time.
2) You know those psychopathic progressive groups of people that try to shove tolerance and cuckolding and shit down your throat? Well the bitter virgins on /r9k/ are EXACTLY the same but just of the edgy and dramatic variety.
>we're already in debt
>fuck us some more
Thinking like this is retarded, obviously the money isn't going to come from thin air, and you'd know this if you paid any attention to anything outside 4chan info. Reduced spending in other areas (ie military) and more funds from changing tax brackets (no change for anyone making less than 250k).
They won't pass such a drastic plans without a way to fund them.