>>26179663 Nah there is less than there was during the summer. But still many, many normies. I like them though. I really do. At least you can argue with them and call them out on their normie delusions. Boy do they hate that. They hat it almost as much as MGTOW. Women have MGTOW because, well it's men who don't give a shit about them(although some of the men are so inferior that women probably don't even care). And men hate MGTOW because it does what they want to do.
To paraphrase another Anon, it's more like "most of the foxes I know who eat the grapes fell violently ill afterwards." Not to mention the fact that the stats don't exactly put women, in aggregate, in a good light.
There is absolutely NO REASON to commit to a woman unless you are selfish enough to want to bring a child into this world.
Young women give it up like it's going out of style, so women these days are essentially bound in a prisoners' dilemma where they fuck and get a short term relationship with a guy, or the guy finds another broad who will.
If you take care of yourself and make decent money, you can be banging 22-year-olds into your 40s.
Since the sexual revolution, it's getting easier and easier for dudes to bang fresh new pussy. In 1995, you'd have to go out to a bar to get laid. in 2008, you'd have to go through the hassle of OKCupid dates. Now you can just tinder and be banging a broad out in 1 hour, like pizza delivery.
So when women get tired of the tinder scene, they start looking for the nearest useful idiot and compile a mile long list of requirements.
ALL men see this. and no man wants to pay sticker price for a used car with a lot mileage. I mean, relationships are a fucking value exchange. and you're paying a premium for something that other men got for free.
To be your average married chump is an absolutely soul-destroying experience. I've seen it happen to friends of mine. As soon as you get married to a broad, you can say goodbye to your freedom and goodbye to all your aspirations and dreams . Women are the only asset in the world where the price goes up as the underlying value goes down. When they're 18, you're cool to a chick if you have a car and your own shitty apartment where you can bang her. When they're 35, you need a "respectable career" and substantial savings to buy her a house with granite counter-tops for her to fuck the pool boy on while you're at your soul crushing job.
This the average man's lot these days.
Men less lucky/ambitious than me, I don't judge you if you play video games and MGTOW. Nobody wants to bankroll a whore that fucks like a prude.
>>26181898 Don't even go there. Nothing about Islam is good. Submissive women are just plain and boring. Not to sound like a normal fag, but it's incredibly boring to be in a relationship with woman who just goes along with everything and never gives her opinion on things.
It's better to be single than to be in a relationship like that.
Women standards have become unrealistic. They expect you to be top tier looks, status and income but barely offer anything themselves.
All of them expect the best of the best. On top of this you have to commit through marriage to a woman who probably settled for you and resents you because she always expected to marry Christian Grey.
In this marriage you have to slave away trying to keep your income sky high and meet every single need she has, while she spends all your money. Then you have get divorced and sent to court. She'll divorce you for anything.
Its just not worth the effort for a guy who isn't literally a 10/10 male model trust fund heir sportsman, no point. Thats the only way to ever have an easy time with women, be a top tier male in every facet of life.
Don't fault guys for going their own way. Why chase something that doesnt want you?
>>26179730 >I like them though. I really do I came to the same position in a thread a month or so ago I had the first "internet argument" I'd had in years and I really did enjoy just batting back at his/her points Made me realise how much of a hugbox this place is becoming
> They expect you to be top tier looks, status and income but barely offer anything themselves.
It's because we live in a society where boys are conditioned basically from the moment they learn about sex to treat sex from women as an act of charity that they need to express ongoing gratitude for. As we learn about our sexuality, we learn (from both men and women) that we are unwanted, that we are predatory, that our sexuality defiles something otherwise innocent and pure (women). We are never taught to value our own sexuality the way women are taught to value theirs, so it's no surprise that we're so easily dragged around by women and their demands, and that women can so brazenly set high standards while offering nothing but their cunt in return. Treat yourself with dignity. Let it be known that you have standards, that there are features you won't accept and behaviors you won't tolerate. Treat sex as a skill that you strive to be proficient at, and use the confidence that gives you to make it clear that you see sex with you as a privilege, and that you view the sex in itself is an act of mutual enjoyment rather than a reward for yourself from a woman's charity. Things will go a lot better for you.
>>26180177 > Be mistreated by an extremely unfair social landscape that places an unreasonably high burden on the group you belong to > Respond to this with frustration > People dismiss your solution because of "butthurt"
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