>>26177244 That might be someone's entire life's savings. Someone had all of their money with them and then lost it. They are now completely ruined, their family is ruined etc.
Alternatively, it's illega drug money and using it might get you arrested.
If society just did whatever it wanted, we would collapse, money doesn't bring happiness and won't make you any happier, but knowing that you did the right thing and rose above your petty instinct of "ME ME ME" grants you a sense of fulfillment and character.
I wound a backpack once that had a 10000 euro in it once, I turned it into the police and they found the guy it belonged to like almost immediately. He gave me 100 euro and thanked me profusely and said that he literally emptied his entire bank account and forgot his backpack by accident, if not for me, he'd be homeless.
You can always get a job and get money. But we as a society need to look out for each other, because if we don't, we're no better than a bunch of niggers in Africa.
>>26177265 Yeah, but what if you knew it was real? Let's say the person who finds the million dollars in the hypothetical is also a professional money inspector? Anyway, that's besides the point I'm trying to figure out why some people need to be upstanding citizens to the max. >>26177288 Alright, let's change the hypothetical completely. Let's say someone saw you key someone else's car and you threatened to call the cops, but he offered you $10,000 to forget about what you saw. If you choose not to take the money and call the cops, why? Why would anyone do that? >>26177311 Fulfillment of character, hmmmm. So that's it? It gives you some "I better than though" ego boost? You're a better man than me I guess.
>>26177378 >Fulfillment of character, hmmmm. So that's it? It gives you some "I better than though" ego boost? You're a better man than me I guess.
No, did you not read my post?
You have to learn to feel empathy for people and imagine yourself in their shoes. And if you're going to say "But they don't do it for me!" then you're a fucking retarded faggot.
Imagine how much better society would be if we all had empathy for each other and we looked out for each other, because at the end of the day we're all people. If something happened to, wouldn't you want people to help you? Well then you need to do so yourself. Treat others how you want to be treated. A society in which we're all brothers can't harm us, because we all look out for each other, we all help each other and stuff won't have as big of an effect on us.
>>26177244 Honestly, I'm so desperate for a dollar right now, if I found a bag or a clip of money, I'd fucking snatch it and run. JUST fucking run until I made sure no one was following me. Then I'd live a more satisfying life.
>>26177514 So be the example that you want other people to be like. Just because someone else is a gigantic faggot, doesn't mean you should be one as well. Not because of other people, because YOU don't want to be a faggot and you'll be in a better state of mind because of it.
In Australia, there was a case recently where a couple bought a couch from an Op shop. I don't know what you call them over there, thrift store? The couch had something like 10 grand stuffed in it. They kept the money, and got arrested for it. Apparently they got tracked down because they used plastic. Moral of the story is fuck yeah, I would keep the money, as long as I could get away with it.
>>26177527 >Not because of other people, because YOU don't want to be a faggot and you'll be in a better state of mind because of it. That doesn't work though. That better state of mind is a great example of irrational altruism. You feel better because you think being selfless is going to earn you good-boy points. It's weakness.
>>26177553 No it's not. A selfless act isn't done for "good boy points" you retarded faggot, you do it because you WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BE BETTER and because you know that YOU CAN. Everyone should have the belief that there is someone much worse off than them and they want to help this person as a fellow human being.
The world will be a much better place because of it. Obviously you might not change the world, you probably won't, most faggots will remain greedy, faggots, but you can have a provincial, impactful change of a small community, even if it's just a couple of people and help those persons to live better lives and to create a ripple affect as an example of what a person could be.
If everyone just kept asking themselves "What's in it for me" we'd still be in the stone age, because there's a higher level of self-devotion to things. Not because you want "good boy points" and not because it feels good, because you can and you should, because we live short lives and we don't reach a lot of people, but within our circles, our towns, our communities, our groups we can have at least a minimalistic affect on the mentality of the average person and their well-being. At the end of the day, your life is measured by what you left behind.
Yeah sure, you can steal a bunch of money, you can be an asshole to people, you can only care about yourself, but what have you left behind? A bunch of angry people, regrets and overall no positive influence on anybody. But if you make a positive change and the positive change that you made ripples off into more positive changes, then even if you don't accomplish anything in your life, you can at least die knowing that you did your best as person and you didn't let other people's greed, society's "standards" and other people bitterness ruin you. Living around people who help each other is a great feeling and even if you don't experience it, you can at least try and be the person that you want other people to be like.
>>26177648 >you do it because you WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BE BETTER Why should I want that? I'm not even trying to be edgy. So far I thought that only reason there was is that if you don't, others will shun you and hate you. I never really imagined there could be an actual reason.
Why should I care about all the things you've said? Why should I care about what have I left behind? I don't believe in reincarnation, soul or any of that. What happens after I die is of no concern to me.
I get that I sound edgy. And I mean it's fine to say that people should be good because otherwise the society will hate them. And that they are basically doing it out of fear. But don't pretend there is any actual reason.
It may sound silly, but I do good things just because it's what I would want the others to do to me. Obviously I'm not a saint who sacrifices himself for other people's sake, but if I have the chance to do something good then why not
>>26177244 But imo that's literally THE point of life lol. Either you're religious and it's obvious why you do good things. Or, you're atheist and you think everyone having a good life is obviously inherently better than one person having a good life at the expense of others.
>>26177244 A million in a dufflebag is definitely not something I want to keep. I'd take a couple thousand out and turn in the rest. There's not really a way to turn an illicit million in cash into a financial asset. A safer bet is grabbing a couple grand, as much as I can feasibly carry and use without attracting attention and turning the rest in. After a certain time, if nobody picks it up, the finder can claim it as their own. Since something like that is near certainly illegal, nobody is going to try getting it back from the police. Plus, in the worst case I still get a percentage of the value as reward for finding it. A completely legal and clean 50 grand is still p neat and better than a million you can't take to a bank.
There is a point where you accept morality on a personal level, when you do the right thing not because you care about how other people perceive you or because you're worried about being punished or receiving some reward for "doing the right thing" but you live a moral life because you truly believe and understand that being a good person will give you far greater happiness and satisfaction than anything you might gain momentarily from immoral action.
At this point you start to feel a genuine pity for people who would lie and cheat and steal in pursuit of happiness because you know how false and fleeting that happiness is when compared to the true happiness of living a moral life.
Thread replies: 28 Thread images: 2
Thread DB ID: 481598
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the shown content originated from that site. This means that 4Archive shows their content, archived. If you need information for a Poster - contact them.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content, then use the post's [Report] link! If a post is not removed within 24h contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org with the post's information.