>>26175418 >spill my deepest feelings out >thread dies not too long after >feel kind of relieved >a few days later, find that someone posted it on Twitter for all their normalfag followers to laugh at What the hell is this
>>26175822 >Just type it all up again I don't see much point try to change degenerates on the internet Go talk to a priest if you're interested >tfw your dyke friend nicknamed you father because you can have passionate informative religious tirades she somehow enjoys, but can't be bothered to make a long post on 4chan
>>26176005 Yes because I'm not someone in the apostolic succession and I felt she was making light of the position too much. Now I just don't care >Maybe do quick? I prefer obnoxious reddit tier fedora tippers because they're easy enough to bother by posting le hat man and moving on. Also /r9k/ isn't the place for it really. /his/ is better
>>26176138 I didn't actually yell. I chastised her. I'm too lazy to talk up the Orthodox church especially when I'm positive it won't change anything. I'm not talking to someone Christian in any way. I'm not even Orthodox :^)
>>26176220 >But I still really really want to know! You are tease maybe make good stripper yes? :P Don't have the body for it sorry >But if no Orthodox why care so much? I'm Catholic, but there isn't a real Catholic presence in Russia and Orthodox Christians believe 99% of the same things as me
>>26176298 I'm skeleton tier already and have no interest in exercising or changing my diet. >So almost same. You still do not want to tell me? Matthew 7:6 "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. Nothing will change, so why bother?
>>26176387 Not that anon, but I always understood it as that Jesus had prostitute followers because he recognized that they were prostitutes by circumstance. Being a prostitute is not glamorous, and people typically don't want to do something like that unless it's out of desperation.
So maybe you could say that it's more sinful or less understandable to have lots of sex out of a lack of self-control or for pleasure than it would be to use it as a means of survival.
But then, I'm the type of Christian who could empathize with every kind of wrong-doer.
>>26176387 >I do not understand Matthew he is saying I do not get it and not appreciate this? He's saying not to bother preaching with the people who aren't going to change >Maybe you can make me good again. I'm not God, I can't do this >Jesus had prostitute friend he helps yes? He certainly got them to stop being prostitutes and got them on the proper path. I'm not Jesus though and I think he was talking to people more likely to change. Pic related was a whore who became a Saint so anyone can be redeemed, but she literally saw a miracle from God. I'm not God I was answering your question of what the Orthodox church teaches. You're not a Christian so I doubt you'd particularly care in the end. Your apathy to the suggestion of talking to a priest shows this. They could tell you what the Orthodox church teaches. >>26176429 >So maybe you could say that it's more sinful or less understandable to have lots of sex out of a lack of self-control or for pleasure than it would be to use it as a means of survival. It's not less sinful as a matter of fact
If you believe that God is all-powerful, omniscient, omnipotent - You believe that God knows and has always know the entire story of life. He knows the future and everything that would happen to people. But if it is possible that God knows what will happen, the future must be definite.
God created all man with that knowledge. But it is still possible for men to sin and to be condemned to hell. God still created man with that knowledge. He created man knowing that through that, many souls would be condemned to hell. Beyond that, he created every living person already knowing that they were doomed to hell from birth.
If you don't believe in fate, then it's impossible to say that God is omniscient. If he knows every possible future, then he's only speculating as a human would.
Anyway, I admire you for not being lukewarm if my assumptions are even correct, but theism of any kind is pretty ridiculous.
>>26176544 >I always was thinking that religion can help with life in way that you read book to build thing do you understand? I understand I suppose >Like no murder and be kind and stuff :) What is kindness though? Just being accepting of everything isn't kindness in a Christian worldview. >I do not understand this. like horses? Calvary is the name of the hill that Christ was crucified on.
>>26176638 Cavalry is the name for horses you're thinking of >Like do not be mean to persons you do not know and be nice and help with things and stuff. Kindness is to do what's best for someone. And sometimes that means being "mean". If someone does something wrong that'll harm themselves physically or spiritually it's more kind to oppose this than to blindly support it.
>>26176638 if you try to make good decisions, help others succeed in their lives, and never turn your back on suffering, I think you'll be doing a whole lot more for the world and for humanity than anybody who blindly follows the arbitrary laws and rules of some 6000 year old Hebe
>>26176704 >anyway, I'm done offending people ITT Try not to give yourself too much credit If you think I haven't heard the shit you've said before or that it's particularly "offensive" you need to get your head out of your ass and step up your game. Fedoras on /his/ are better at it than you
>>26176740 >This is what I was thinking. So why should I even bother telling you what you wanted? I think the "pearls before swine" quote applies perfectly. You don't care, it won't interest you, and at best you think it's stupid. If St. Thomas Aquinas spent his time trying to convince people who were completely apathetic about what he had to say he wouldn't have had time to write his Summa Theologica Telling random Russian strippers things they're ambivalent about seems more like a waste of time and energy.
>>26176852 >I was just wondering what you were going to say. Nothing an Orthodox priest wouldn't say better >I am very interest! I'm sure >Is religion stiff your hobby? Pic related >Is big where you are No quite the opposite >does girls like this? Maybe nuns do, but I'm not Martin Luther I do not know what this is. Summa Theologica - Thing written by St. Thomas Aquinas about many different subjects including arguments for and against the exist of God and his 5 proofs for God's existence. Ambivalent - Having conflicting feelings about something You claim to be interested in what I have to say and act completely disinterested in other ways >More then this thread it has been long time :P And I could type far more than I have in this thread just about the incarnation if I really wanted to. >>26176864 I'd be a monk before a missionary t.b.h, but I don't think I could do that either
>>26176923 >Nothing an Orthodox priest wouldn't say better So you will never tell me? :( >Pic related Oh wow is very big for you then! I like nature and stuff like this. >No quite the opposite So how do you get in to it? >5 proofs for God's existence Ooh what are these? >Having conflicting feelings about something You claim to be interested in what I have to say and act completely disinterested in other ways Like what? >just about the incarnation if I really wanted to Do this. Start with what it means because I do not know :)
>>26177004 I'm going to answer these out of order slightly
>So you will never tell me? :( >Like what? The fact that I just said a priest could tell it (and better) and you don't want to hear it from him, but still want me to talk for some reason. >So how do you get in to it? My parents are religious and very anti-Catholic. I wanted to know what the original Christians believed, and I enjoy history. It was personal exploration. I was more or less a deist (believe in a God, but not any religion essentially) prior to becoming Catholic though >Ooh what are these? The First Way: Argument from Motion The Second Way: Argument from Efficient Causes The Third Way: Argument from Possibility and Necessity (Reductio argument) The Fourth Way: Argument from Gradation of Being The Fifth Way: Argument from Design It would take longer than this thread will last to actually get into all of these arguments in what they all were, but this is what they're all named. >Do this. Start with what it means because I do not know :) The belief that the second person of the trinity the Logos (Word in English, this is Jesus) became flesh by being conceived in the womb of Mary. >Wait this is not black guy yes? No he was a German priest in the 16th century that started the Protestant reformation
>>26177181 >Because is preists job. I want to hear from normal person and I like talking to you. Only God could know why >Is there small meaning because the names confuse me haha. No actually there isn't. A "small" explanation would be making the arguments wrong. >What is good with this? The Incarnation is God becoming a human. Jesus was both fully man and fully God. >You become baby in your mother. The Nestorians would take issue with you calling Mary God's mother, but they're wrong anyway. As well as deny Christ's divinity implicitly in refusing to call Mary the mother of God. The Incarnation all being a part of this of course.
>>26177347 >Why what? You enjoy talking to me >So meaning can not be small to be good? Essentially this yes >How does this work? Is like Heracles yes? part god No it's not. He wasn't half God half man, he was fully God and fully man. It's a divine mystery as to how it works. A human would be incapable of understanding it. >Why would they do this? She was pregnant and gave birth yes? They believe it detracts from Christ's divinity and makes him too human. They believe that there were two separate person's in Christ (human and divine) which is heresy. This is called Dyophisitism. The orthodox (little o not Orthodox) position is that there is one person in Christ (the divine) and two wills (the human and divine)
>>26177479 >I just do. Is odd? Yes >But I think it would make him better I can understand human more than god. They think it implies that he's less than God which is blasphemous. >Is this illness though? Scary. It's not split personality. He had the divine will of the Logos and his own human will. This is part of him being fully human and fully God. He was exactly like every other human other than having never sinned. And he was also full God at the same time.
>They think it implies that he's less than God which is blasphemous.
Oh ok it is a little silly I think.
>It's not split personality. He had the divine will of the Logos and his own human will. This is part of him being fully human and fully God. He was exactly like every other human other than having never sinnedAnd he was also full God at the same time
So is reason he can do magic things ok. What is Logos?
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