I actually think I had a better learning experience at cc than the state school I transferred to. My math teacher was great and also taught at the state school I went to. Same for my more important teachers so they knew what they were doing. And the nice thing is that my classes were small so I could ask questions and get extra help easily.
>>26144614 Community college is basically a lower-wage university that offers certificate courses, and associate degrees. They're relatively cheaper, but, have lower budgeting. Theres stigma that claims CC are just like high-schools, but, not really. Most people attend them to earn some credits for cheaper cost, and they include graduate programs to help transfer you into partnered Universities.
>go to cc >feel bad because I don't feel challenged enough since most of the tests are multiple choice and multiple choice are piss easy teir >find out that's how it is most places >watched a lecture at standford and at the end of the video the professor talks about how there won't be a paper for the class and that all the tests except the final will be multiple choice >mfw
>>26144587 listen op community college is great you save money and then you can transfer to a state college here in connecticut you can transfer to a state college with all your credits from cc no problem. They even have tracks for majors so you can graduate with an associates and then get a bachelors in the same program. Its much cheaper and not all bad.
>>26144587 community college is high school 2.0 its two more years of high school for retards who couldnt get into a state college. And state college have like 80% acceptance rates which means these are the lowest scum of the earth. Not to mention all the elderly that go there for cultural enrichment. CC is great if you are a loser looking to sell drugs. If you want to learn anything worthwhile transfer to a state college. I know because I started in COmmunity College and blew the pants off all my professors got all a's and was blown away by how fucking easy it was. Then I transferred and I still feel like state college is a joke
basically I am too smart for CCSU I should be at MIT or something where I am actually being challenged.
in fact when I went to cc some of the guys there were in there 40s even had a 80 year old grandma there. She was chill as fuck. Community College is a joke, try not to take your life so seriously, no one else will
>>26145247 Calculus, Chem 101, Classical Mechanics, etc, are the same fucking class no matter where you take them. CC and university are the same thing until upper level courses, and CC is dirt cheap/free.
>>26144587 biting because not sure if troll thread
i went to university. a state school. all four years. but if i could do it again, i'd go to community college and get an associates in coding or some shit.
i'm extremely surprised at this thread. even the normie mainstream is almost to the point of openly saying "yeah college is a scam for most majors."
i log onto cancerbook sometimes. literal burnout kids from high school went to community college and are now making more than me. or at least, have titles that sound like they definitely make more money than me.
a definite technical skill, with certifications to back it up, will beat a bullshit english or economics *bachelor* degree every fucking time.
>>26144587 Community college is a great way to save money doing your general education, after which you can transfer to any school in the country if you did well at a nice community college. My high school was 14 grand a year and we needed a two year break from tuition
>>26145662 >most majors well, not MOST majors. but no one is telling kids that some bachelors' don't mean shit unless you get a master's or even a PhD.
they're going into debt for no fucking reason.
don't take my word for it - look at job descriptions. monster, careerbuilder, indeed. the amount of employers who accept an associate's in accounting or bookkeeping is insane. and those jobs are like $12/hr starting. not fucking bad for two years of school.
>>26144587 Anyone who goes to college or university in the States must be a fucking lunatic moron. Fucking 100k in debt. Seriously. Just get a life instead of doing what society tells you to, they're ripping you off and ruining your life.
>attend community college >all the young people there know one another from highschool >all the old people know one another from work/neighborhoods/churches >tfw spend all day sitting there not speaking to anyone before gathering my things and going home
Remind me why I'm paying for this shit again? Oh yeah because it gives me an excuse to not work
>>26144587 >he didn't take the most efficient route possible to get rich. Employers don't care about degrees anymore retard they care about experience I got my bachelor's degree from a community college, interned and volunteered on the side to get experience and I'm now making 80k a year with zero student debt. Enjoy those bills and useless piece of paper lol
>>26146585 It's different for everyone. There are people that treat cc like a place to socalize and get dick/puss and others treat cc like it's their last chance to get there lives together and get into a good university.
One of my friends got a chick to suck his dick on campus within the first week of the semester.
I don't understand how people like him pull it off, but it's possible.
Literally this. I took 17 credits the past two semesters and am only taking 15 this one (finishing up with CC this semester), and I feel like I have so much fucking free time that I get bored as hell. Whenever I talk to my friends who go to a university, I'm always surprised to find that we're learning the same shit at the same time, or that my professors for those classes are even ahead of them. It's also weird to think that my friends and I can study for exams together since we pretty much learn the same shit and have exams in the same format.
I thought university calculus classes would ask you about advanced theory and proofs but I guess not. Turns out some of the hardest questions were integrate so and so and I just wouldn't believe it whenever my friends told me.
The American education system really is nothing more than a huge gimmick.
How do you guys even get to 4 years at CC unless you are a special case have a job and other problems? You can take 2-3 classes each semester and get out in 2 years. Each class is about 3-4 credits and you need about 60 to get the AA degree.
>>26146801 I took four classes each semester but took a break after dropping out last spring for reasons outside of school, then came back this semester. Apparently, some classes I took didn't count for the general education requirements when I thought they did because of both me not knowing the college system that well and having kind of incompetent counselors help me schedule my classes.
>>26146817 Community colleges are for poor people and retards who had GPAs that were too low to be accepted by any state or private universities. If you do well in CC, you can transfer into regular state or private schools after two years.
Technical schools are for absolute complete retards who would never be able to pass college courses. It's carpentry, welding, electrical etc trades for lousy blue-collar jobs.
>>26147498 Nah, I get what Mike Rowe is saying here, but the proof is in the pudding. The better your education, the higher your income ends up over time. Blue-collar jobs have extremely limited financial growth.
>>26145151 It's the same all over the country now. In my area, we have like 5 huge 4,000+ student high schools. About half of all those students go to our local CC and then transfer to the state schools. It's like the same thing as uni here because we have dorms and shit.
If everyone in a country has a degree Do the wages go up? Does the cost of the degree stay the same? Does the marginal benefit of obtaining a degree, or a higher degree increase or decrease? What happens to blue collar work? Do you bring in immigrants, or will wages rise to attract the lowest rung of the white collar workers to "settle" for these jobs?
>>26147640 >Do the wages go up? Slightly due to inflation, but not significantly.
>Does the cost of the degree stay the same? The cost will continue to rise unless gov't intervenes.
>Does the marginal benefit of obtaining a degree, or a higher degree increase or decrease? The marginal benefit of obtaining an A.A. or a B.S./B.A. decreases, but the marginal benefit of obtaining advanced degrees increases.
>What happens to blue collar work? Do you bring in immigrants, or will wages rise to attract the lowest rung of the white collar workers to "settle" for these jobs? Wages won't rise. Outsourcing, Immigrants and robots; in that order, fill the blue-collar jobs.
>>26147444 >2012 >4.0 GPA throughout HS >accepted into Penn State, Temple, Valley forge, Drexel, Kutztown, Baltimore, West Chester >chose to go to Montgomery CC instead >tried dual majoring for Computer Science and business >dropped out >wrote books >made 40k last book for quarter >receive a decent constant income each month from other books
>Slightly due to inflation, but not significantly. So they stay pretty much the same, right?
>The cost will continue to rise unless gov't intervenes. >The marginal benefit of obtaining an A.A. or a B.S./B.A. decreases, but the marginal benefit of obtaining advanced degrees increases.
So, can we agree that it's possible for the cost to rise faster than the marginal benefit?
>Outsourcing, Immigrants and robots; in that order, fill the blue-collar jobs.
So let's say the immigrants that do the jobs that cant be outsourced have their offspring also obtain a degree, because they have become a part of this "Nation where everyone gets a degree", then what happens? Do the 2nd generation immigrants compete with the "natives"? How do they do so?
Also, do you seriously believe we can have the majority (51% or more) of blue collar work automated BEFORE everyone currently employed in blue collar jobs exits the work force?
>went straight into engineering school >bumbled around for a few years after, but finally have a decent job >ran into some people I have not seen in 8 years >ask me what I am doing >talk some technical jumbo about my job and they are impressed
Feels good man
>>26145151 Don't do this if you go for a hard major. Your CC GPA does not transfer and you have to build your GPA off of classes that rape your GPA.
I did the math a few years back. CC was $6,000/yr. $12,000 for 2 years is good until you need 3 years of engineering school at $18,000/yr. You need 3 years because some of the classes were offered once a year and had to be taken in series. 5 years of schooling with a lower GPA at the end would have run 66k. Going straight to engineering school was 72k and took 4 years with a higher GPA at the end.
PA sucks for college prices no matter how you cut it. Falling in the hole where your parents are too rich for FAFSA yet poor enough that they can't pay for your schooling sucks. The last loan will be paid off in July, 4 years after I graduated.
>>26145853 Different anon than the one you replied to. I completely get what you are saying. The example about accounting/bookkeeping associate's throws me off though. Besides being able to get hired at lots of different employers 12$ an hour is kind of shitty..
most quarter systems are 10 weeks a pop while semesters are 18 weeks > 3x10=30 > 2x18=36 > 36>30 All in all every year you are actually getting less schooling at a quarter system school...
Here are some of its other pitfalls. >between weeks 3 and 10 you are constantly taking fucking midterms >you miss a few days because you are horribly sick, you get fucked (a whole week and you may as well an hero) >you have less time to get to know the professors or TAs and build a meaningful relationship >not only that but since they only have to teach a retardedly fast-tracked (muh faster pacing I am so smart) joke of a class, the schools can get away with hiring very underqualified instructors who cuck you out of the education your paying for >All of the professors (good or bad) have learned to cancel their weekly office hours over some fake family emergency just before the midterms in a few days as to do less work but if you go to the earlier there is still material that has to be taught >more frequent changes of schedule throughout the academic year which is a nuisance if you are working
>>26146604 I didn't make any friends, but it was nice to be able to talk to actual adults instead of late-teens and early twenties -- basically the kinds of people who bullied me in high school, fast-forward a few years.
>>26147350 No, there's plenty of adults trying to study up for a better career. That's why there's night classes. (Do universities even have night classes? Or are the students expected to just be drunk and screwing at that time?)
University is a fucking meme. >Professors are tlo busy trying to get research shekels, and don't give a fuck about teaching >normies everywhere >administration is a joke >feminazis and sjw's >schools make you take consent classes >safe spaces for trannies >expensive >depressing
Just go to a cc for two years. If you hate it, then go work. Or just transfer to a university and not throw yourself into debt like every retarded 18 yo the madrassah pumps out
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