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>calories in calories out brah
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>calories in calories out brah
>just eat less calories
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>>26101479
That's literally what it is, you fat cunt. Unless you intend to challenge the law of conservation of matter. Your fat doesn't come from thin air, lardo.
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>>26101580
>metabolism changes when you eat less
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>>26101580
So me physical proof that calories in = calories out

Protip you can't
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>>26101611
Stop eating so much you fat cunt and see it for yourself
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>>26101580
not everyone has the same brain chemistry, that can impact a persons relationship with food
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>>26101580

>be 20
>fat as shit
>eat 1400 cals a day
>lose tons of weight

>be 29
>fat as shit again
>eat 1400 cals a day
>literally nothing happening

You're literally fucking stupid.
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There's a documentary called ''that sugar film''.
I lost 70 pounds in 6 months after watching it.
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>>26101643
>you're growing at 20, thus spending energy to create more mass, hence you need to eat more
>you're not growing at 29, thus spending less energy, thus less of what you eat is spent

this isn't rocket surgery fampai
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>>26101643
At least I'm not fat :^)
Or stupid ;)
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>>26101643
>be 30
>eat 1500-1700 and lose 60lbs

You're literally fucking stupid
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>>26101643
Yeah you haven't counted right both times. Like ignoring sauce/cooking oil/drinks. It was probably more like 1900 in both cases. If you are lazy fuck at 29 that's about your maintenance.
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>>26101479
mayo guzzlers are so degenerate
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It's not that simple to just eat less.
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>be me, 6 months ago
>5'6, 205lbs
>realize I'm a fat fuck
>hate exercise
>decide to cut down to 1200cal or less a day
>now 168lbs
>still loosing
Just remember, it can only get better if you put in some effort. Stop making excuses and get started, or else kill yourself
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>>26102050
Losing* accidentally added an extra 'o'
Whoops
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>>26101990

>mfw fat people will have cravings for the rest of their lives if they become skinny

You've fucked and cucked yourself permanently.
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>>26101611
What the fuck do you think a calorie is? Do you want someone to send you a hard copy of a book on thermodynamics?
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>>26102083
Yeah you stupid angry little faggot.
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>>26101479
yes it's that easy you fucking fat shit
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>>26101479
Hi op I've got great news since the laws of thermodynamics don't apply you go see a scientist and become famous for disproving it. Oh wait you can't. Find out how much you weigh find your daily caloric intake using a simple online calculator, decrease by 500 until you stagnate. Repeat this until desired weight there is nothing to it you can eat literally anything no matter how bad it is for you and you'll still lose weight as long as you stay within your daily caloric intake.
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>>26101479
It is easy if you make the right choices to go with it.

>>26101990
You don't often need to eat less, but eat better.
What other fatties need to do is stick to meat and vegetables, while toning it down on the carbs and sugar. These things are high in calories and really stack up fast.

To give you an example, only one cup of cheetos is 200 calories and 4 oz of pork loin is also around 200. You are getting a lot more food going for the pork loin, it keeps you feeling satisfied longer and on top of that, you're getting a good source of protein, vitamin B and monosaturated fat, which is a good fat. You get absolutely nothing beneficial from the cheetos and no one eats a freaking cup of cheetos. You'd be chowing down like half the bag or more before feeling satisfied most likely.

I've lost almost 130 lbs just by eating more meat and veg while sticking to ice water.
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>understand the concept of caloric deficit perfectly
>food is the only pleasurable thing in my life anymore
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>>26102429
who is this anime slut so I can look up hentai and fap
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>>26102454
Like I'd willingly let someone soil my wafiu
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Have lost 27kgs in 5 months. Eating at half of my maintenance. Literally just cook up some lean mince like chicken or turkey (I use kangaroo), season it a bit, add a side dish of rice, potatoes, veges or some lower energy pasta if you need. I do that twice a day, skipping breakfast. Only drink water. Have a cheat day once a week, but don't go crazy on it. You will be hungry quite often, but usually only about an hour or so before you are scheduled to eat next.

It's not amazingly easy, but not that hard either.

Add in some lifting or running or even bodyweight exercises if you feel like it.

It will work. Me and 3 other fat friends have done this method. Well, one went full eating disorder for a bit and was only eating 6 eggs a day. But hey.
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>>26102480
ok can you atleast tell me so I can watch the anime please
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>>26101479
Losing weight is fucking easy. Drink more water and eat less. It's literally that easy.
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>cut out soda and limit carbs
>eat chicken breast errday
>lost 40 pounds in 4 months


>>26102062
>tfw intense cravings every other day where I feel like I'll die if I don't stuff myself with burgers and fries and steak and sushi right fucking now
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>>26101611
Are we being raided by Tumblr?
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>>26102578
The anime is called Monster Mosume, and the character is named Papi the Harpy
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>>26102879

This.

Losing weight isn't worth having to subsist off tiny portions of bland-ass chicken breast for the rest of my life.
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>boiled eggs for breakfast
>boiled eggs for lunch
>water for dem refreshments
>boiled eggs for dem snacks
>tendies for dinner
>shitty stevia flavored zero calorie soda as a treat
>leftover tendies for midnight snack

This is my meal plan for today, T B H fat people are pathetic.
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>>26101580
>That's literally what it is
Who cares about macros, amirite?
Why do these people have no clue at all when it comes to basic nutrition?

http://authoritynutrition.com/6-reasons-why-a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/
If you're eating processed garbage every day it's no wonder why you keep stuffing your face. Your body is begging you to eat better. Go eat some chicken and beef.
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>>26102964
>tiny portions of bland-ass chicken breast
You could literally eat a pound of chicken and depending on how you cooked it it'd be like 1000 calories. You'd be so full that you'd probably be sick. Meanwhile that shitty frozen pizza you ate was like 1600-2000 calories and it left you hungry in an hour.
The best way to lose weight is to learn how to cook and do lots of cardio.
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>>26102980
>multiple meals
>not a whale
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>>26102998

>cooking
>cardio

"The best way to lose weight is to quit your job so you have enough time to slave over chicken breasts and work out for hours"
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>>26103000
>6'0 and
>weigh 170lbs

Pretty normal thing to do my phamily, don't gotta be a whale to eat nutritionally.
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>>26102980

How does your intestine even works by eating that much eggs without oats?
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You will never lose weight you fat fuck and you know why? Not because you are a lazy piece of shit that does nothing but eat all day but because youre a fucked up psycho whos constantly in fear and anxiety which makes your body release cortisol nonstop. Youre doomed you genetic trash. Even a dung beetle is worth than you both to humanity and the Earth. End your suffering and thus the suffering of mother nature you fat autistic piece of shit
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Do starting strength. The seriously, even if you don't loose the weight you'll end up strongfat and birches ducking love that
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>>26103045
I don't know, I'm not a fucking nutritionist. I do eat a slice of bread with my eggs though, if that's like some requirement that you need.
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>>26102964
Not all of us are addicted to hydrogenated crap. Enjoy being fat.
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>>26103013
Most supermarkets carry precooked chicken breast. But up with another excuse.
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If you have a problem with that you should just relocate to tumblr with the other delusional fat fucks and their acceptance movement.
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>>26102062
Actually, after about 9 months or something the stomach shrinks.
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if you've got a sweet tooth like me I lost some weight by replacing sugary things like sweets and chocolate with fruit
also if you drink a lot of beer or wine try replacing them with spirits but this doesn't matter much unless you drink every day or something
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It literally is that though.

I've lost 55lbs just using Myfitnesspal and walking more.
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>>26103164
Or try quiting or drastically reducing sugar and alcohol. Half-assing it will get you nowhere.
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>>26102964
Eggs and Chicken are the way for a NEET, cure your fatness by eating them and I gurantee you that all your cravings will vanish. The chicken is a holy creature sent by Allah to bring fat autists everywhere weight loss.
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>>26103217
You're really stupid. No wonder you're also fat fuck.
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>>26103123
Or just get a foreman grill or something. Jesus Christ, fat people are retarded.
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>>26102062
>Lose shit ton of weight
>Finally down to normal weight
>Still have cravings
>Cave in to them once in a while
>Feel absolutely no pleasure
What the fuck guys, it's like having an addiction to a drug that no longer gets you high.
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>>26103239
Not even him but step up your insults. You look like a self hating fat kid in every one of these threads.
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>>26103210
well I was only skinnyfat in the first place so it's not going to help much if you're an obese fucker
>quitting alcohol
fuck that shit senpai
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>>26103013
>Cooking
>Hard
>Takes a long time

Pick none
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>>26103250
>That intense feeling of guilt after a binge

It doesn't even take me eating a massive amount to cause it either. I hate myself for eating fucking bread sometimes.
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>>26103013
Lol, forever fat asf.
>mfw I read shit like this
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>>26103250
Eat right and work out regularly. Most fit guys have a cheat day when you can indulge a little bit.
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>>26103210
Trying to change everything at once works with almost no one and will just lead to relapsing. "Half-assing" ie. small permanent changes one at a time actually lead to results.
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>>26103257
Alcohol is terrible for you. Just vape weed or something.
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how do you guys cope with being fat
if i was fat i would totally lose all hope, most other things i could deal with, but being fat means the dream is over
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>>26103250
maybe you need to eat better food instead of eating pure trash
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>>26101479
i dont know about calories but it IS all about what you eat. you might put weight on more easily than others even when eating the same amount as somebody who is slim but thats just life. and we all know life isnt fair.

eat a lot less meat
eat more fruit and vegetables
eat wholegrain and high-fibre carbs
drink water when youre thirsty

youre gonna have to learn how to cook so you can make all this healthy shit taste semi decent. its hard but it can be done and its the only way to lose weight. eventually i managed it and so can you
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>>26103305
Yep. most fat people have addiction issues. Alcohol is a bad idea. Lots of calories. Empty calories.
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>>26103305
I live in the countryside so drugs are fucking impossible to find, also alcohol is far better than weed imo
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Lol at you fat neetbitches

Stay mad
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>>26102964
you see anon, that's why you embiggen yourself, but with muscle this time
fat guy eating tons of shit=disgusting weak-willed loser
bearmode guy eating tons of shit=real man
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>>26103326
The first paragraph was literally retarded. You should not be giving advice.
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>>26103348
No, they're both fat guys. Grow up.
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>Tfw skinny
>been working out for weeks now
>70kg @ 6ft
>already squatting own BW
>dead-lifting 90kg
>30kg over-head press
>eating up to 9 meals a day since i have a very fast metabolism
>10k cal a day
>strength gains out the ass
>putting on size
>only taking BCAA'S
>thinking about taking creatine

lovin it
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>>26103369
You're gonna make it br-

>6ft

NORMALFAG LEAVE REEEEEE
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>>26103369

Your lifts are laughable now but keep it up.
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>>26103293
That's what I do. I don't feel guilty at all for having a cheat day, junk food is just not as enjoyable as it used to be when I was fat.
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>>26103361
bearmode people aren't fat
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>>26103406
>laughable

Indeed, but when i think back and look at me squatting only 20kg and struggling when i first started, i feel like Arnold himself especially when i go gym and squat double than what you see people bigger then me doing and doing it with shit form and leaning forward, it makes me smile.

I give it 6-7 months before i start noticing some decent gains and I'll have a decent body.

I wonder how much my weights will move up by then, especially OHB.
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>>26103447
>squat double than what you see people bigger then me
People bigger than you squatting 70 pounds?
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Why can't normies understand that "just eat less" is just as much as a meaningless buzzphrase as "be yourself" or "be nice"
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>>26103513
>not being a ring-eyed, messy haired anorexic
>using the tumblr modified version of normalfag
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>>26101479
Fresh from fit, thought it was pretty funny.
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>>26103511

Yes and the usual 50-60kg's, 've also found lots of people have chicken legs at the gym who neglect things like squats. I thought it was a joke, but you see many retarded monkeys walking around with big chests, arms, traps and skinny legs / quads.

Lots of people here who take up the squat rack are retarded curl monkeys who end up doing good mornings when they go to squat.

It might just be my gym, but every now and then you have a shredded guy who comes and squats 100+ like it's nothing.
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>>26101990

Yes it is, tubby.

>consider eating a lot of food at once
>eat less instead.

Lol see?
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>>26103513
No it's fucking not. If I tell you to eat less, you know exactly what I mean: stop putting so much food in your face. There's no way you can elaborate on "be yourself".
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>>26103685
A normie would say the exact same thing. "Be true to yourself" etc. Its literally just a meaningless buzzphrase. And just like how "Be yourself" is a meaningless buzzphrase that people say to the socially alienated, people say "eat less" to fat people as if its its easy to just cut out on one of the only things that make you happy.
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>>26103685
>eat less
Like I haven't tried?
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>>26103986
Eat less that what you were eating then
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Get out tumblr please...
Just fucking track everything you eat and you'll see that you're eating more than you need...
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>>26104008
I'm on pills for my Aspergers that make my stomach feel empty all the time, I never feel full or satisfied with the amount I've eaten.
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>>26104112
>I'm on pills for my Aspergers

lel get off that shit, anti-depressants are mind wrecking memes sold for profit
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>>26104177
I'm on risperidone, it's not an anti depressant
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>>26103430
Keep telling yourself that anon.

Ocf
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>>26103430
>>26104231

They're kind of fat but could still fuck my boipussy tbqh
It's the muscle that actually matters for men
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>get fitbit for xmas
>january 1st weigh in: 230lbs
>count calories
>eat below way below TDEE because I can see my calories now
>work out twice a week
>start an EC stack
>burn about 1000 calories a day

>january 29th weigh in: 219lbs

lowest I've been in fucking years. biggest was 250lb last year.
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>>26101479
*fewer calories
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>>26103013
25 minutes walking uphill on a treadmill will burn about 600 calories

congratulations you can eat 2500 calories worth of food today and still lose weight.

or, just eat 1900 calories and dont work out, still lose weight.

the choice is yours
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>>26103986
Then be fat. Are you under the impression there is some magical 3rd option?
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>>26103369
>thinking about taking creatine

holy shit are you serious? you haven't had ANY this whole time? dude what the fuck. why are you doing that to yourself?
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>>26104274
*jacking off motion with hand*
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What about LSD to lose weight?
Like a microdose of 20-30 ug every day
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>>26104328
"This" tbqh

Actually give your body some blocks with which to build a temple brah
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>>26103369
>60lb OHP

bro
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>>26104350
>tfw LSD not legal

Literally dindu nuffin
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>>26104208
take caffeine pills to counter the hunger

thank me later
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>>26104375
Take 1P-LSD or AL-LAD then
They're legal in countries without analog laws, i.e. most of Europe, Canada, ...
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>>26104350
Lsd that low feels like weed, might as well just smoke, but I don't like weed
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literally just eat 1500 calories per day, do 1 hour of cardio in the morning and 1 hour at night, keep it up for at least a month and watch what happens. if you dont lose weight with this you are a mutant

it's tough and probably too much for all the weak-willed faggots on here
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>>26104352
>mocking someone's beginnings
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>>26104399
Weed makes me anxious and lazy, LSD does not
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>>26104400
dude they'll never make it. they don't deserve to lose weight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RudZMKI3D_M
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>>26101479
It's literally just do noting. Sit on your arse and don't move and you will lose weight as long as you aren't gorging with two peoples daily intake worth of food every few minutes. Gaining weight actually requires rigorous exercise and force feeding to the point of always feeling sick.
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>>26101479
Caffeine used to suppress my appetite and I could easily lose weight by drinking coffee. Now I'm too tolerant of it.

I need crank.
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>>26104396
I hope you're happy, you just made someone buy psychedelics.
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>>26104414
What I meant is that low doses of lsd make me feel anti social and high, maybe not exactly like weed but it's the reason I can only take larger doses of acid
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>>26104317
Why are fat people so exhausting? They're like dealing with toddlers.
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>>26102062
>be fat fuck
>always binge eat
>try to eat less
>can't, something just keeps jamming more garbage food into my mouth
>have a conversation with someone about addictions
>sugar addiction comes up
>wait
>realize I do in fact eat fucktons of sugar
>detox for a week for shits and giggles
>no more cravings
>get skinny
FUCK YOU WHITE TRASH MOM AND DAD YOU DID THIS TO ME BY FUCKING FORCEFEEDING ME GARBAGE FOOD EVER SINCE I WAS LITTLE
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>>26104408
bro

come on
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Started counting calories two days ago, already lost a pound.
Just google your target body weight and the recommended daily intake of calories for that weight.
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>>26104440
no you just need higher dosages. pick up a bottle of caffeine pills at CVS, or try an EC stack.
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>>26104446
Isn't lsa legal too?
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>>26104467
Binging on sugar is far worse than continuously eating the same amount.

Also eating late at night causes more weight gain.
Eat X calories over 12 hours a day
vs
Eat X calories over 18 hours a day
The latter will make you fatter

Calories are not equal.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1550413112001891
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>>26104489
Jesus Christ. You don't need caffeine pills. You don't need pills at all. It's that kind of nonsense that got you here in the first place.
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>>26104467
I wish my weight problem was that easy, but I avoid eating sugar and I'm still a fat ass. I eat a lot of fried food though.
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>>26104529
Try fasting at night.
You can eat the same amount but stop eating 6 hours before you go to bed
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>>26104529
I'm going to go out on a limb, and say that maybe, just maybe, you try cutting out the fried foods. Smh, fat people.
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>>26102062
tee hee

fatty willl always want sody pops and chippy chips
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>>26104509
>Also eating late at night causes more weight gain.
>Eat X calories over 12 hours a day
vs
>Eat X calories over 18 hours a day
>The latter will make you fatter

but that's wrong

all that matters is calories burned vs calories eaten in a specific period of time; whether it be a day, a week, a month.

the reason you "gain weight eating at night hurr" is because your heart rate slows down while you sleep, therefor you burn less calories while you sleep. It doesn't matter though as long as you eat below your TDEE daily.
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>>26101479
That's exactly how it works.

>muh metabolism
>muh genetics

Lol
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>>26101479

fuck that shit mate, why make it hard for yourself
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>>26104525
rofl what?

are you fucking mental dude? have you taken your pills today?
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>>26104573
But it's true.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120517131703.htm
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>>26101479
Change your diet, if you're rich as fuck like me get a trainer to help motivate and guide you each day.
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>>26104112

>on pills for a fake version of a meme disorder

Lol you don't need pills, just stop being weird, lazy and obtuse.
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>>26104509
Eat X calories over 12 hours a day
vs
Eat X calories over 18 hours a day

Isn't the opposite true? I heard eating more calories in a shorter period slows your metabolism.
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>>26104529
fried food is high in fat
1 gram of fat = 9 calories
1 tendie has 11g of fat

fried food did 9/11
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You can do it ! I was a fatass my entire life -- ballooned from 200 entering high school to 300 leaving it. I'm 170 now.

The key steps for me were

>#1 calorie count, keep it in the 1200-1400 range
>#2 reduce sugar, drinks specifically. Diet drinks are okay with meals.
>#3 dont snack, keep it to 3 meals a day. Make breakfast good and dinner light. If you're like me and think about food all the time just focus on what you'll have for breakfast if dinner doesn't satisfy.
>#4 start working out when you get confidence, when you hit a good weight you can stop dieting but keep working out. Walking an hour a day is fine.
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>>26104585
This you?
Anything to share about how well they work?
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>>26104634
I'm sure Elliot thought the same thing
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>>26101479
That's literally all there is to it. Look at other countries, like Japan. Fucking 3% population is obese. Just 3. Do you know what burgerland is? 10-15x higher can't remember the exact number but its around 30-40 percent or so. Your diet is probably shit and you don't get enough exercise. If you're a lazy shit that sits at the computer all day, you're most likely not burning a lot of calories, and on top of that, people in those sedentary lifestyles pig out on instant dinners and take out which is packed with calories too high to justify any nutritional value derived from said meal.

Cut out the snacking and soda. Seriously, stop with the fucking cheetos and doritos and shit. Soda is disgusting and filled with sugar. They add up real quick especially when the labels are deceiving. No one eats a single handful of doritos or a 8 oz of soda at a time.

Also, learn to cook your own food. Most takeout is atrociously high in fat and calories. Get off your lazy ass and learn to cook. You'll make better food that is healthier and can taste better if you actually try. Shy away from deep frying though. Also, learn to eat some fucking vegetables. They'll fill your stomach while being low calorie so you eat less high calorie foods. You have no idea how many fat fucks I see at my LGS who make fun of me for eating fruits and vegetables and boldly brag about eating none of that "pussy woman shit." Yeah, I get made fun of and called a woman for eating salad, but at least I can see my toes and touch them while standing. Feels good not being a hulking fatass.

tl;dr stop being a lazy nigger
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>>26101990
Yes it is you fat fuck. HAVE SOME WILLPOWER
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All the /fit/ circlejerking. Yes, thermodynamics, I know. You can't have negative metabolism that makes you create energy. BUT most people who give tips on how to lose weight/get fit lack the perspective, because they have good metabolism. I'm skinny (too lazy to get ripped) because I don't eat a lot. I've got an okay metabolism, not too shitty, not miracoulous, so good for me. On the other hand I've got two friends on the opposite sides of the spectrum. Both are 6'4. One eats around 3000 a day while doing jack shit and being a shut in and is the skelly incarnate, while the other tries to lose wieght, went down to ~1800 a day and works out a lot(including cardio), but his body 'makes the most of it' and he's swole, yes, underneath a massive flab. So stop fucking jumping to people's throats because their experience with dieting/exercising is different than yours. And explain yourself and it to me, preferably.
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I don't get why fat people think that losing weight is so hard, I have been skinny all my life and it's super easy, hell I even gained 10 pounds over the holidays from eating too much and all I had to do to lose it was not eat anything much for a couple of weeks, like it's not that hard to stop eating for a while, you won't die if you aren't stuffing your face every day,I don't get fat people.
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>>26101479
what all these psuedoscientists don't realize is that antibiotics deplete gut flora, which means more empty calories absorbed through your large intestine. you automatically get a little bit more food, minus most of the nutritional value outside of carbohydrates and fats
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>>26104994
>my friends eat x calories amount
i'm pretty sure you're wrong
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guys i quit Coffee/energy drinks almost 2 months ago because it felt like someone had my heart in their hand. I feel great now. I can get out of bed with less effort i don't feel tired all the time and my shits feel glorious. I was originally only quit for 2 months to let my body heal but should i just give it up. I also gave up soda.
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>>26104955
this

if you are hungry, fill up with water
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>>26102797
Creamy meme there dipshit

This post is totally og I swear.
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>>26104994
Utter nonsense. Let us know when you want to join the rest of us in reality.
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>>26103369
>10k calories a day

seems legit, kai greene

or should I say memes legit, kai meme
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>>26105080
>My experience was pretty easy
>Everyone else's should be pretty much the same, right??? :^)
>I don't get why other people aren't just like me :((((
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>>26104994
CALORIES IN

CALORIES OUT

THAT'S ALL IT IS YOU DUMB FAGGOT.

CALORIE EXCESS = WEIGHT GAIN
CALORIE DEFICIENCY = WEIGHT LOSS

I don't CARE about your friend that eats 200k calories a day and doesnt gain weight, I dont care about girls you think eat pizza and drink soda and never gain weight.

YOU ARE DELUSIONAL
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>>26105226
Such denial. I envy you.
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>>26104638
Who the fuck's mimmy fries their tendies? Lmao stay cucked ignorant wagie
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>>26105269
Again, fat people are exhausting. Just s.mh
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>>26105354
shake.mh.senpai
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How the fuck are you guys fat when all you do is sit at the computer all day? Are you actually incapable of not eating food 24/7?

Jesus, literally all I do is sit at my computer and I'm still underweight. You people must constantly eat.

Seek help.
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>>26101479
>laws of physics do not apply to my body
Cool story, bro.
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>>26105407
>how can you be fat when you engage in no physical activity all day

What am I reading?
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i lifted for a few years starting at like 15 years old and just ate a lot of food all the time and turned into an ogre-looking fuck

>tfw 205lbs and 5'8
>can't leave my swamp until 160lbs
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>>26105464
I'm sure you're actually dumb, anon. You don't need to work out or do cardio to lose weight or stay skinny.

If that were true, then by your logic I'd be overweight. Just stop eating garbage food and stop eating 4 meals worth of food every time you eat, and stop eating every hour.

You can literally do nothing but sit down, eat 1900 calories per day and still lose weight.
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>>26101479
> implying thats not true
You guys sound like tumblrinas when you say this stupid shit
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>>26105407
>How the fuck are you guys fat when all you do is sit at the computer all day?

I'm skinny too but this sentence is kind of retarded m8
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>>26101643
>You're literally fucking stupid
Literally really did not fit good into that sentence.
you only said it for its buzzword appeal, and that's not good
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>>26105557
Which is why you traditionally read the sentence following it. That's how sentences work.
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>>26102062
This is untrue. Its been scientifically Proven that the less you eat something, the less you crave it.
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>>26105590
Mmm, not quite.
What you should have said was How the fuck are you guys fat, even if all you do is sit at the computer all day?
This implies that the issue of sitting at a computer is only a minor issue, rather than an aid to losing weight as you implied.
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>>26105261
What about people with mildly impaired lipogenesis? Or digestion problems? Or that thing when you have hightened passive energy maintenance level(forgot the name)?
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>>26102980
That doesn't sound that healthy t b h f
you will be smelly
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huh I though I posted on this yesterday, but I just remembered that I got a connection error or something.

Anyway, I lost about 30 pounds by simple "just" eating less calories.

Just fucking works.
Try it.


3500 kcal deficit=1 lb of fat loss.

Meaning that if you eat 1000kcal less per day, you lose 2 pounds a week.

I did this for quite some time, and I went from 85 to 68 kg.

I was feeling tired as fuck, I lost shitloads of muscle mass, but is just worked. This thing just works.

Protips after doing this?
Do lots of cardio and keep your cardiovascular system healthy while you lose weight.

Btw if you don't lift, you're not going to look attractive.

I was at the "sweet point" of my BMI, yet still skinnyfat.

Do cardio and a bit of weights while you lose fat.
Don't get malnutrition.
Don't run, it's bad for your knees. Gay shit like elliptical are good enough.
Good luck m8.
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>>26105666
That applies to 99.9% of the population. Every fat asshole has some fake "condition" they use an excuse.
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Losing weight fucked up my whole body.

I was 5'8 225lbs , lost 85lbs and got down to 140lbs. At the time I was only eating about 1200 calories a day as my stomach shrunk and I got super full quick. As I got older I started eating more, but the thing is that I couldn't eat normal amounts of food because I would rapidly gain weight. I gained all my weight back, up to 225lbs while only eating about 1500 calories a day. I'm currently trying to lose weight again, but the bullshit part is if I eat anything more than 1200 calories I will gain weight.


So yes Calories in= Calories out is bullshit.
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>>26105785
Long story short, you ate well and lost weight, then you stoped eating well and gained weight. Riveting stuff Anon.
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>>26105785
>but the thing is that I couldn't eat normal amounts of food because I would rapidly gain weight
What you call normal is probably massive amerifat sized portions. Look at countries with low obesity rates. Their portions are more often than not significantly smaller than what yours are. Also, lay off the burgers and eat a fucking salad once in a while.
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>>26105812
Losing weight fucked up my metabolism , making it impossible for my to hold the weight off in the long run as nobody could possibly survive on 1200 calories a day for life.

Nice reading comprehension.
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>>26105749
Those aren't excuses for being fat (there's no excuse for that). Those are excuses for not being fat while you should be. And what I'm trying to get across is that many people who are like this have no idea how hard it actually is to lose weight, but it doesn't stop them from giving shitty advice.
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>>26105407

>>26105696

>meal-skipping tranny talking shit

Come back when you actually have the willpower to exercise
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>>26105785
I also gained all the lost weight, and the died fucked up my cardiovascular system.

However I still recommend it as I think of it as the first step to learn that you actually can do it.
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>>26105858
Of course you're going to gain weight if you eat more calories retard! If your body was used to 800 calories, and you started eating 1200 calories, guess what, you'd gain weight. Same thing if you go from 1200 to 1500. But, if you eat a reasonable amount of calories, you won't get fat. C'mon senpai, it's not that hard.
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I have no problem losing weight, but I'm constantly bloated. Tried drinking less, didn't help. It's not visceral fat and it's not an fungi infection. Taking anti-gas medicine doesn't make it go away. Help?
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>>26101479
How hard is it to fucking exercise every other day for an hour.
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>>26105749
reality is more complicated than the way you see it.

antibiotics deplete gut flora, which means more empty calories absorbed through your large intestine. you automatically get a little bit more food, minus most of the nutritional value outside of carbohydrates and fats.

this happens when you get them from the doctor, and it happens when you get it from meat, because they use the process to fatten up the animals.
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>tfw on two antidepressants that make you fat
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>>26105968
Nigga please. All the rhetoric in the world isn't going to defeat physics.
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Just take drugs every day. I've been on stims for like two weeks and I've only eaten a handful of meals. I always get the munchies during the crash though. The trick is to never crash, to go on several day benders without any sleep until you get so tired you pass out. Opiates are good for curbing hunger too, I've lost a lot of weight on those.

Kratom is a good, legal drug that will curb your appetite. It's a really mild opiate/stimulant, you can't even get dependent on it unless you're a fucking moron. Stick to 4g doses and take breaks if you stop feeling anything from that. Then you'll never have withdrawals. Even if you do go through kratom withdrawals, it's just anxiety, depression, and cravings. Nothing you couldn't tough through.
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>>26105993
No fatties at Auschwitz
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>>26105928

Might be an unfortunate gut flora balance. Try a probiotic. There's one that's recommended by the American GI association or whatever.

Might help might not, but low risk so give it a shot
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>>26105982
Nope. The excess calories are making you fat.
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>>26106002
You don't need any of this garbage to lose weight. Cut it out.
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>>26105993
>the laws of physics trump the laws of biology
>in a discussion about biological organisms

All the rhetoric in the world isn't going to change that you're arguing like an idiot.
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>>26106018
Absolute pseudoscientific quackery.
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>>26105928
>constantly bloated
yeah I get this problem a lot too.
Turns out I developed lactose intolerance after diet.

I just stay away from milk while I remember it.

>buy cookies
>eat the whole pack
>third ingredient is lactose
>they unironically add lactose to their cookies
top kek I didn't fart so much in quite a while.
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>muh gut flora

take it tumblr retarded fatties. Dye your hair turquoise and buy the Brooklyn bridge along the way.
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>>26105928
Try cutting dairy and wheat. Easy on the eggs and no reheated chicken.
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>>26105122
>muh gut flora is keeping all the food in
Well, then, you should have no problem spending less on food than a normal person.
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>>26106132
Yep. No dairy, no gluten, no alcohol.
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>>26101594
he neither said nor implied that, but it fucking does. if you eat less, chances are you will burn even less calories which makes losing weight even harder. how about you eat fucking nothing for a month? i bet my fucking life that you are gonna lose weight fatass

>>26101643
>be 20
>fat as shit
>eat 1400 cals a day
>burn more than 1400 cals a day
>lose tons of weight

>be 29
>fat as shit again
>eat 1400 cals a day
>burn 1400 or less cals a day
>literally nothing happening

WOW FUCKING ROCKET SCIENCE
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FATBROS LISTEN TO ME

ITS NOT THE CALORIES IT'S THE FUCKING SUGAR

NO MORE SUGARY AND STUFF OR ANYTHING WITH ADDED SUGAR/CORN SYRUP AND YOUR FAT WILL MELT THE FUCK OFF

IT WORKED FOR ME I PROMISE I WISH I REALIZED SOONER.
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>>26102879
>HUR DUR CARBS MAKE U FAT
> burgers and fries and steak and sushi
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>be type 1 diabetic
>glucose levels are fucked recently for whatever reason, go low alot
>have to stuff my face with large amounts of high fructose corn syroup while surpressing gag reflex so that i don't die from hypoglycemia
>still underweight
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>>26106219
>muh good foods and bad foods
This is how fatties trying to 'diet' stay in the cycle faggot.
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>>26106219
[citation needed]

let me guess, when you cut out the sugar you actually cut out not only soda but also shit like hamburgers and chocolate, which is known to have large amounts of fat and protein and thus even more calories.

seriously, shut your fucking mouth about MUH SUGAR MUH SUGAR PSEUDOSCIENCE

i know people who are on a HIGH CARB DIET (getting most of your calories from carbohydrates, INCLUDING CARBOHYDRATES WITH A HIGH GLYCEMIC INDEX (sugar)) and they aren't fat.

also you, like all the fucking other fat ASSHOLES ITT, are implying that food does NOT affect how much calories you burn, while infact it does. if you're on a shit tier diet with alot of sugar and severe lack of protein and fat and other nutrients then your body may be in such a shitty state that it "slows down" and thus your resting metabolism decreases, so you burn less calories excluding the physical exercise. however, this fucking means LESS CALORIES OUT.

CALORIES OUT is not only what you lose by doing physical exercise, it includes your resting metabolism: weight you lose just by sitting on your ass. and your diet has a big impact on this.
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>>26106250
My brother is type 1. He doesn't eat any of that. He is of a normal weight.
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>>26106274
Exactly. Fats will convince themselves that pepperoni pizza is ok as long as it doesn't have any sugar. Its calories. Accept it. It's that simple.
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>>26106071
But they do, baka. Physics is a science of higher order than biology, thus biology can't override physics. Only maths and physics can prove a physics law wrong.
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>>26101479
It literally is that way. I was a bit fat and I made a new years resolution to lose weight. So far I've been eating about 1350 calories a day and doing very light exercise

I so far lost 6 pounds. It's pretty easy. What I do is eat around a 350-400 calorie healthy meal in the morning. After doing my light excercise

2 hours later have a nice nutritious green smoothie

and every 2 hours I eat about 200 calories. I wake up at 10 and stop eating at 7pm.

It helps to distract yourself so you don't think of food when you are slightly hungry.
I for one play an MMO all day and get by the day with this small portion

I'm a NEET
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>>26106016
Yeah just Typhoid plague
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>>26101594
Metabolism does change when you eat less, yes. There was yet another study that came out this week where a bunch of dudes did exercise and were given two different diets. 100% of them lost weight and got stronger, but the group that had a bit more protein lost more weight and gained more muscle. You arent special, you have a human body that adapts to the environment. Get over it, lardass.
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>>26106403
>he doesn't eat any of that
>any of that
>i only listed 1 thing
you're probably just fucking retarded or don't know your borther.
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Fat haters ignore the fact that some people are just born lucky.
>roommate is rail thin
>says he doesnt eat much
>i come home yesterday to find an empty frozen pizza box
>no sign of leftovers
>roommate proceeds to eat a huge bowl of ice cream then shovels half a jar of peanuts in his mouth

I'm trying so damn hard to lose weight but that shit isn't fair.
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>>26107150
He doesn't eat hydrogenated foods,at all. You said you had to not to die from hypoglycemia. That's crazy.
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>>26107225
>That's crazy
that's fucking normal, if you inject too much insulin, causing a hypoglycemia, it is wise to eat some sugar to normalize your blood sugar levels and probably the best to eat something with the highest glycemic index possible. a fucking apple will take too long so that might kill you or at least it will be very uncomfortable and a strain on your body. not everyone is a fucking pro and keeps his glucose levels 100% within the target range of 90-120mg/dl for decades every single day like your brother.
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>>26107220
>born lucky
>eating a pizza without immediately gaining weight
Faggot if that's luck to you then you should feel happy that your life is so simple. You didn't try jack shit, losing weight is literally just not doing one thing as often as you normally do. There's no extra effort unless you want to look good in the end. Being rail thin is shit as well, and eating junk all the time will still kill him young.
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>>26107220
He probably doesn't eat breakfast.
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>tfw you lost 75 pounds counting calories
>tfw months away from being your goal weight
>tfw autoimmune system disorder of the skin on your penis and lips and no girl will ever find you attractive anyways.

3:
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>>26107220
no one fucking said that genetics affect your metabolism.

what we are mostly hating on here is that people say CALS IN CALS OUT isn't true. if you have shitty genetics, then you just do less CALS OUT because you have a low resting metabolism.
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>>26107259
Yeah, he is super anal about it.
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>fatties literally believe they are source of free energy in the universe
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>>26104467
How did you detox?
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>>26107313
life of a party. I have type 1 diabetes and a very unhealthy diet, eating lots of fastfood, potatoe chips and drinking soda and energy drinks and taking other drugs. my glucose levels are good though. they could be better, but still doin good. my hba1c is under 6. it just sometimes seems to be the random things that cause the problems, such as bad injection site.
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Was going to make a thread on fit but cba, im eating much less and working out but the only problem is when its late at night and I cant sleep because my stomaches empty. Any low cal filling food to eat before bed or do I just got to get over it?
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>>26107333

Trips hath spoken.

Lets make perpetuum-mobile devices running fatfucks.
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>>26104601
but it's not you fucking retard, maybe you should read and understand what you linked to. and it's not even proof, it's just a study.

it's really so basic that it all boils down to thermodynamics when people talk about cals in cals out. remember that cals in means actual calories absorbed by your body and cals out means calories burned by your body, NOT only by physical exercise but also by your brain and resting metabolism and other shit. if you take ALLLLL of that into account then cals in cals out is true.
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>>26107280
>literally just not doing one thing as often as you normally do
If you told that to somebody trying to quit smoking they'd want to strangle you. Trying to eat less is like quitting a habit. Maybe not to everyone, but that's why a lot of people say "it's not that simple." Dealing with the constant urges and the hunger pains and resulting stress and rage is way more difficult than a faggot like you gives us credit for. Fuck yourself.
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>>26107333
Jokes on you normalshit, lazy people actually prevent the heat death of the universe by a tiny bit.
You should be grateful.
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>>26107287
The pizza alone is more calories than I consume in a day.
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>>26107425
>comparing quantities of food to fucking nicotine
For the record, I don't think that you're mentally capable of doing it. Less than .5% chance you'll ever be normal weight and the damage is already done on your brain. I'm just saying it is that simple and there's no "credit" to give. If this is what you call a problem in your life and what literally consumes you, then your life is as easy as pie. Just be glad that your "urges" are tolerated in society so you can do whatever you want without a single care in the world. I'll be over here born lucky because I spend 5 more hours on my feet every day.
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>>26102062
Ive only lost 40 pounds and still want to eat like the fatass version of myself

its suffering
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>>26107425
just eat cucumbers or something else filling you autist
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>>26107514
>being this shitty at lying
What are you 15? How would that even be relevant even if it was possible?
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>>26107425
What you're looking for is sympathy. Not knowledge or advice.
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>>26107562
and how is that supposed to reduce all the side effects he gets? i'm not fat but i can relate to him because i have other problems. not everyone is a fucking superstrong normiechad like you.

people want to lose weight for their health, now i dont know how much stress that would actually cause you but out of personal experience, stress like that can cause cardiovascular problems (irregular heartbeat, arrythmia). even in me, I'm normalweight and do cardio. now if you are FAT you are probably not doing cardio and your body is already in a bad state (might have high blood pressure and other problems). that little "challenge" to lose weight might actually give you a heart attack.
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>>26107527
>>26107562
It has been proven several times that trash fatty food, work like a drug.
People get addicted to it, and have a rush when they eat it.
They are literal junkies.
So go fuck yourselves.
>you're le fat lelelele
Never been fat my whole life, i just don't talk out of my ass and judge people without knowing.
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>>26107631
No one is disputing any of that. Less than 1% of obese men will ever return to normal weight. That's the reality.
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>>26107655
Yeah and I don't need to give junkies "credit" when they don't smoke for a few days. Come back when you aren't a fat fucking loudmouth idiot who thinks he's somehow so fucking unfortunate that pizza isn't on the menu every single day without consequences. You don't need to judge people, you're a fucking fat piece of shit. It wouldn't mean anything
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Calories in = Calories out must be true. Calories can't magically disappear or appear.
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Fag senpai desu nihongo
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>>26107543
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>>26107766
Fat people are well known for their absent memory and incompetence. To them, it does appear to be magic. I've seen a dude who eats 6 times a day meals that are 3/2 what I would eat claim that he just eats salad and lean chicken. And he never touched salad, he was actually talking about random vegetables in his hamburgers or tacos.
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>>26107711
Here's your (you)
Now go kill yourself
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>>26107848
He might be saying it harshly, but he's right.
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>>26107579
I count calories, nigger. The pizza is about 1800. I try to be under 1500. Despite my comments I'm actually succeeding at losing weight, I'm just saying it's not easy.
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>>26107867
>i don't need to give them credit, but i do have need to insult them, shit on them and spread lies about shit i know nothing about
Go fuck yourself too, asslicker.
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1. Just eat 3 meals a day, but fill up the plate so that its a MEDIUM serving than LARGE like your fat ass always eats
2. Don't eat any snacks
3. No soda, only drink water and/or milk, soy milk, almond milk, flax seed milk.

If you follow these 3 steps, congratulations! You will lose weight! Also if you count calories, make each meal be like 500 calories, no more than 600 calories.
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>>26107925
Retard, no one is saying that losing weight is necessarily easy. What we're saying is the science behind how to is understood and easy to ascertain. It's that simple.
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>>26107925
>know nothing
If you know so much why are you still a cow? You just assume people are born eating pizzas without actually digesting them. How does that solve your basic bitch problem?
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>>26107954
This. The only people I work with that eat snacks in between their lunch breaks are the FAT LARDASSES. Stop eating snacks, you fatties. I work 10 hours a day and often go 6-7 hours without a meal---and I'm fine. I feel hunger a bit during the last few hours, but I can survive without a snack. We can live for days without food, so you can live without a snack between 3 medium-sized meals.
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>>26107966
Agreed.
>>26107988
I'm not even going to bother to reply to you since you can't even read.
Go fuck yourself.
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>>26107966
I'd argue that most people who've lost weight agree it's pretty difficult. Your body doesn't want to let go of its precious fat reserves, you have to convince it to burn away your stores of energy in a desperate attempt to either combat starvation or keep up with physical punishment.

That said, it's doable and the formula is obvious from so many who've done it. You just need dedication.
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Meh, it's probably gut bacteria. Just like heart attacks are probably caused by infections and Vitamin C deficiency.

People thought ulcers were "stress" but nope, heliobactor pylori.

They've done studies with poop transplants where it makes thin people fat by transplanting poop from a fatty. It also works on rats. There's definitely some "fat virus."

Your body doesn't just fuck up for no reason.

I'm gonna try sterilizing my gut.
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>>26108040
I've heard ads on the radio claiming to sell products to make you lose weight by killing "gut bacteria". They're all scams. I hope your sources are academic ones.
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>>26104266
You're gonna make it, brah.
Assuming you stick with it.
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>>26108027
It's mental issues, just like any other addiction. All that crap food will be be out of your system in a few days. After that it's a 100% willpower .
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>>26107355
PLEASE RESPOND!
sheltering sky
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>>26108040
Do you believe in voodoo too? Numerology? This is just nonsense.
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>>26101479
Im a very empathetic person but i cant be empathetic with fat people
Test have proven fat people just lie to themselves and others about how much they are eating
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>>26108373
Yeah. I have a fat family member. Fat people are like junkies. They'll lie to your face.
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>>26108263
>>26108176
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/health/gut-bacteria-from-thin-humans-can-slim-mice-down.html
http://gizmodo.com/the-secret-to-weight-loss-might-be-poop-transplants-fro-1265888152
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>>26108439
>may
>study
>academia in 2016

CICO works everytime.
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>>26108494
Yeah, for 6 months.

>Weight lost recidivism is exemplified in a study by Sarlio-Lahteenkorva et al. who followed a cohort of 911 subjects. Only 6% maintained weight loss of at least 5% after 6 years.
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>>26108494
*studies

Oc
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>>26108524
You're beliving in nonsense. We already have a 100% effective way of losing weight. CICO.
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>>26108560
Doesn't work long term, m8, but enjoy your self-flagellation. Science will march onward and have the real solution soon.
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>>26108560
fatties will believe in literally anything, not to have to give up their junk food. It's really fucking simple, you have to eat less calories to loose weight. You can either eat less or stay fat. That's it. There is no magical 3rd option. And anyone trying to sell you a magical 3rd option is scamming you.
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>>26108630
You can't be this stupid. It works 100% of the time. CICO is foolproof, it's your brain that's not. You don't nutritional help, you need a psychiatrist's couch.
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>>26103369
>10kcals a day
>only squatting body weight
Do you weigh 500lbs?
If not, chances are you don't eat that much and you aren't actually that strong.
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>>26108630
>Doesn't work long term, m8

so if I keep using more calories than I take in, eventually I'll gain weight?

good 2 know
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>>26108630
>muh studies
>muh gut floral
>cico doesn't work

fuckin fatties
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WHY are there so many replies?? JUST EAT LESS FOOD YOU FAT FUCKS
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>you're addicted to food
>some /fit/ manlet shitposting on /r9k/ to feel superior to someone else for once in his pathetic life says "it's just will power, brah!"

Normies are to robots as thin people are to fat people.
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>>26101479
That's fucking it you fat fuck
Eat less and you'll lose weight
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>>26108678
>>26108729
>>26108750
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Dieting-Does-Not-Work-UCLA-Researchers-7832

Do you believe in science? Cuz science says 95%+ of people regain weight they attempt to lose.

CICO's pretty shitty maties.
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>>26108793
They were literally never taught to control themselves. Most fat people have trouble with shitting their pants and waking up on time as well. It's almost like the people making profits on their habits made sure they would never learn more than what a newborn child could. Just treat their responses like you would treat a barking dog, and invest in food tech/agriculture.
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>>26108809
It IS just will power, you crazy fuck.
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>>26108843
That we know. But CICO is undefeated. It's people's ability to restrict calories that is not.

It's reflective of the nature of addiction, not the validity of CICO. 90+% of people relapse after rehab too.
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eat this every week after fasting and still have six-pack

>calories in calories out
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>>26108913

Of course. But why are fat people so fucking stupid? They're exhausting! They're like dealing with a 3 year old.
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>>26108793
>mobile shitposter
>image.jpg re: overused pepe or wojack (board specific overplayed meme to establish credibility)
>post content: cross board troll that no longer has legs on home board (/tv/, /fit/, /pol/, /a/ )
>add useful idiots and moderation that can't tell what blatant troll topics are because they don't actually use the boards

Make a troll thread tomorrow regarding any popular played out post that will get you banned on a board with an actual topic and it will net you 2-300+ posts as long as you roleplay the appropriate "board culture".
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>>26108843
Science also says that 100% of people who live healthier lose more weight. You're just arguing that humans are fucking idiots, especially fat ones. Adjusting their microflora would be like putting on some fresh clothes on a bum. What do you think it would change?
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>>26108865
As a former smoker, a recovering alcoholic, and a fat fuck, I can tell you that losing weight is easily more difficult than quitting either of those two.
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>eat whatever i want all the time
>literally entire large pizzas every day
>9% bf and visible abs

just get good genetics bro
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>>26101580
Why the fuck are you posting in an ocean of bait
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>>26108951
Why do you think I'm a mobile poster
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>>26109097
Yeah I heard that figuring out how to wear pants was hard the other day. I guess some people just aren't cut out for this world.
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>>26109159
Was that an epic burn in your mind, or did you have a stroke halfway through your post?
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>>26103305
>Get high
>Order a large dominos with 2 sides

gr8 idea
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>>26109182
It was a super epic burn, dude! What a meaningful post coming from a dude who admittedly struggles with not eating so much that his body deforms.
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>>26109097

What are you looking for? Some special form absolvement?

Again:

-Eat less calories
-Stay fat

There is no 3rd option.
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>>26105650
He's a tripfag, responding only encourages him more
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>>26107655
>It has been proven several times that trash fatty food, work like a drug.
then cite the proof.
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>>26107655
>i just don't talk out of my ass and judge people without knowing.
>hasn't cited any of the evidence he claimed that existed and doesn't even know what it's like to be fat so he actually DOES NOT know
fucking kek, had a good giggle at your post lol
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>>26109341
I know, I don't magically circumvent thermodynamics and neither does anybody else. I'm just saying that, while it's factually correct that eating less will make you lose eight, ignoring the underlying changes in chemistry and microflora that will make the process of becoming healthy hell as well as the terrible habits learned such as comfort eating is ignoring the root of the problem. I brought up examples in which I overcame addiction to contextualize the situation: I had the will power to quit two incredibly addictive substances, but not to make meaningful, lasing alterations to my diet.

What I'm saying is that telling people eat less as though that wasn't both obvious and intuitive is the equivalent of telling a junkie to just not shoot up. Or to use a favorite example of this board, it's the equivalent to "just be yourself". I'm not looking for pity, I'm looking for you to acknowledge how condescending that advice is.
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>>26109643
> ignoring the underlying changes in chemistry and microflora that will make the process of becoming healthy...
Nonsense. CICO and an exercise program. There is no missing link.

Everything else you're talking about is junk psychology. Do it or don't, but don't pretend that we don't know the physiology behind weight loss.
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>>26101479
>>26101580

>falling for the epic calorie intake meme

If you actually believe this myth then you are a normie
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>>26109784
not him, but i explained this earlier: >>26107631
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>>26109784
>don't pretend that we don't know the physiology behind weight loss.

I'm not sure if you're intentionally misinterpreting my posts or just accidentally misinterpreting my posts, but either way we're at an impasse. If you're going to ignore why people eat unhealthy foods in unhealthy amounts then this conversation has really gone about as far as it can.
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>>26108843
This is because fat fucks are addicted to food. They cut their diet for a few months and lose weight...then they think "Sweet, I lost weight!! Now I can eat like I used to :^)"

Thats just how the brain works. Fat people are addicted to food, so their reward center is WIRED to crave food easily and fall back into old habits.
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>>26109800
If you actually believe that loosing weight is somehow bad for your heart, you're too stupid to live.

One more time because you're apparently fucking retarded: CICO. If you restrict calories you will loose weight No cardio needed.
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>>26101479
>TFW I starve myself and eat maybe 500 calories a day to maintain being 95lbs (5'2)
It's easier if you cut cravings with diet soda and salads that have 0 calorie dressing, or big bowls of fruit. I drink a lot of coffee. I don't eat food that is easily found in a convenience store.
It gets easier with time, you will get addicted to seeing good results.
The only problems I have with living this way is that I absolutely love to cook.
I've solved this dilemma by bringing the food I make to my Dad's apartment every weekend. He lives alone, is pretty depressed. I worry about him a lot. This seems to perk him up a bit.
Tonight I'm making a spinach and mushroom 3 cheese casserole!
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>>26109865
>Fat people are addicted to food, so their reward center is WIRED to crave food easily and fall back into old habits.

This is theory. Hardly fact. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but how do you know it's not the crap food they're addicted to? Is their brain WIRED to be addicted to kale?
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>>26109868
>If you actually believe that loosing weight is somehow bad for your heart, you're too stupid to live.
that's not what I've said in my post, and if you didn't fucking get what I've said then YOU are too stupid to live.

>hur dur if u restrict calories you will lose weight
nah man, no way. my body is a perpetuum mobile. I've stated multiple times ITT that it's cals in and cals out, you don't need to fucking tell me that eating less will make you lose weight. that's one of the least of my concerns though, as I'm underweight.
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>>26104294
>25 minutes walking uphill on a treadmill will burn about 600 calories

Maybe if you weigh 400 pounds it will.

For the average person, walking up a gentle slope at a normal pace for 25 minutes will burn like 150 calories, maybe 200 if you walk briskly.
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>>26109909
>how do you know it's not the crap food they're addicted to? Is their brain WIRED to be addicted to kale?

That's the point: sugar and fat are substances with a shitload of energy. It's a lot of energy for not much work, so our brains release dopamine to encourage us to do it. Kale, on the other hand, does not have that benefit. It's food, but it's not food we've learned to prize the way we do sugary foods.

That dopamine spike is the same you get from jerking off, winning at a slot machine, or (through different mechanisms) snorting a line of cocaine off a hooker's ass. But as we all know, sex addiction, gambling addiction, and drug addiction all exist. Is it such a logical leap to say that food addiction exists?
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>>26109979
I addressed the second part too. You don't need cardio to loose weight. If a fat person wants to start an exercise program, they should talk to their doctor first.

Are you just running your moth to run your mouth?
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>>26110075
Again, unproven, but I tend to agree with you. Every fat person I have ever been around, basically behaves like an addict.
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>>26110196
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1642703/

>The hypothesis that dopamine transmission is important for food reward implies that food reward elevates dopamine levels, as do, for example, some drug rewards (Hurd et al. 1989; Pettit & Justice 1989; Wise et al. 1995a,b; Ranaldi et al. 1999). Indeed, food reward (Hernandez & Hoebel 1988) and food reward-associated stimuli (Bassareo & Di Chiara 1999) do elevate dopamine levels in the nucleus accumbens. Indeed, just as mu and sigma opiate agonists are rewarding in proportion to their ability to elevate dopamine levels (Devine et al. 1993; Devine & Wise 1994), so are different sucrose concentrations rewarding in proportion to their ability to elevate dopamine levels in the nucleus accumbens (Hajnal et al. 2004).

Of course, one article is hardly decisive, but I think it's safe to say that there's a link which merits further investigation.
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Getting fat has never been a problem for me. If I get slightly chubby I get REALLY depressed. I hate the way being fat smells, it grosses me out like crazy when I get fat-sweats.
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wake up and run fasted + yohimbine. Dont eat fast food, dont get wasted on alcohol more than once a month. Do intermittent fasting, fast 16 hours and eat for 8hours. Working out at the gym is a plus. Pic related
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>run 10k every other day
>burn 800 calories each time
>eat out of boredom and get them all back
Is it even fucking worth wasting an hour of my day by wearing tight clothes and shuffling awkwardly in public?
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>>26104663
>Walking an hour a day is fine.
>Walking
nice meme
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>>26104663
>#1 calorie count, keep it in the 1200-1400 range
Absolute bullshit pseudoscience. Calculate your TDEE and go on a 500kcal deficit. You have to be the manlet of all manlets if you only need 1200 at 300lbs. Most average healthy males need around 2200kcal to maintain their weight.

>#3 dont snack, keep it to 3 meals a day. Make breakfast good and dinner light. If you're like me and think about food all the time just focus on what you'll have for breakfast if dinner doesn't satisfy.
People tend to eat when they're bored. But instead of eating chips and chocolate, eat peanuts or raisins. You'll still get that feeling of satisfaction, just with 800kcal less. Food should just be another part of the day. If you have to think about food constantly, you have a massive problem.

>#4 start working out when you get confidence, when you hit a good weight you can stop dieting but keep working out. Walking an hour a day is fine.
Hitting your desired weight won't stop your cravings. You can't start eating calorie-packed shit just because you lost weight. Walking an hour will only burn about 400kcal.
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>>26101580
How can i eat less when free will does not exist??
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>tfw been skinny my entire life
>tfw don't care enough to lift, just do daily push-ups and skate

Feels good man. My upper body is still pretty good, but I have small calves (no fat distribution). BTW, calorie in calorie out has everything to do with your fat, but you can't really change your body frame. That said, you shouldn't have multiple chins.
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