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>much less demand for boring vanilla porn these days
>increased demand for harder rough porn and fetish type porn
>get paid more for the later but it is more taxing on their bodies
>for most porn rentals men want to see women abused in some way
Is she right? Are you sick men demanding too much of these poor innocent girls with your taste for more extreme porn?
all i want to see are women with big tits and nice hips, so i suppose i'm not doing too bad
They are subjecting themselves to it. They could just... you know, get a fucking job that doesn't require them to get fucked for cash on camera?
Oh, wait... nevermind. I'm being oppressive.
bro you can't use logic on females. remember it's all bout those emotions and fee-fees for them and if they FEEL men are wrong for females choosing to do this for cash than by god it's the men to blame.
dont waste your time with logic and reason with females and their cuck white knight squads. they can't get on that level
But i dont even masturbate to sex anymore, I generally jerk off to lezdom, like girls beating each other and bullying each other, and imagine they are my sex slaves fighting for their daily food ration while I watch :/
>Women are willing to be degraded and damaged doing porn. Women are willing to suck ecoli covered cocks from another womans rectum for money.
lol it's almost like they want to be retarded
lol you need not worry
Women will do absolutely anything for money. They'll eat shit, fuck animals, and put their health at risk if they're paid enough.
If anything goes horribly wrong they can just blame men for their troubles.
Don't worry roasties, when sexbots go commercial no one will want to see your used up holes anymore. Half of the people on the net don't want to see it now. You made your bed, now fucking lie in it. Hope that burning sensation keeps you warm.
It's the porn industry doing these things. We were kids when we first saw a ganbang. They keep shoving Product A down their throats and then wonder why the customer doesn't want Product B
It's most likely due to the fact that we're become more and more degenerate, just look at the music videos today. They would be considered soft porn 20 30 years ago, so porn companies keep stepping up their game and the degeneracy continues. but of course that's all just speculation
>In an industry where pay rates have continuously declined
Take a look around, cunts. Pay rates have continuously declined in pretty much every industry outside medicine and law.
>$800 to $2500 a shoot depending on content
>girls waste it on drugs, designer clothing and trying to imitate celebrity lifestyles
A lot of the young women who work in porn are stupid and vain, wow, who knew? And this is somehow the industry's fault? Fuck off.
>A lot of this new pain comes from these new girls who have to do these abusive scenes, because that does break you down as a woman.
Yeah? Well 8-5 for $10 an hour with no medical and no pension plan breaks you down no matter what's between your legs.
Bitch, you can make more in half an afternoon than I can in a fucking month, and you want to talk about being 'broken down'?
Dont even watch vanilla porn at this point. Strictly Mike Adriano.
If a girl isn't doing anal, ass to mouth, gaping, getting blocks of margarine stuffed in her ass, shitting out cupcakes stuffed in her ass Im not fucking watching.
In most cases women who get into porn have been sexually abused in childhood.
This fucks up their mind and they end up believing sexual pleasure of men is all they are good for. Often poverty, or ongoing sexual abuse, or outright human trafficking is used to get women into porn.
Normal woman with a normal life and who has some values and morals will not end up in porn. Such women are also hard to coerce and intimidate.
So in porn a small portion of women, almost all of which have been previously abused, end up doing porn.
So how can untreated victim of sexual abuse during childhood or teenage years properly consent in pornography?
It would be just like having a born slave consent to the slavery.
Also a significant factor is grooming. The way perpetrator grooms the victim to make her comply and even like the sexual abuse. Just like slowly boiling a frog. Today when what used to be softcore pornography is now on television screen as somehow normal, when you take in account that young teenagers look around in the culture to find their purpose in society, when girls see the images of women's bodies being shown in ways that are meant to arouse men, they get the message that this is what they are supposed to do.
Especially when their parents do not dispel the misconception and the manipulation that these teenagers are bombarded with.
tl;dr: Pornography is problem because it overrides men's sexuality and modifies it to start liking what is in porn, and not the sensual sex between two loving partners. And sometimes men try to reenact what they saw on a real woman, and odds are that she will not like it, and you have one possible explanation for the rise in rape accusations.
Keep in mind, the best mind control there is is the one you don't even notice.
Unlike most people on this board I try to give every woman the benefit of the doubt and don't automatically hate them for having sex but gangbang porn starts to make me think women are disgusting after watching it enough in succession
>Normal woman with a normal life and who has some values and morals will not end up in porn. Such women are also hard to coerce and intimidate.
I see. To me a woman is disgusting if she does porn period. So to me if a girl is willing to do porn then she might as well do the more harder stuff to since she is tainted the minute she films herself fucking.
>This fucks up their mind and they end up believing sexual pleasure of men is all they are good for
implying a healthy mind thinks women are good for anything besides sexual pleasure of men
Alot of them are social rejects and mentally weak people who are "okay" with being abused for money. That's a problem. It doesn't absolve the men who abuse them. And it doesn't absolve the "men" who like to masturbate watching that.
>sensual sex between two loving
Stopped reading here. Women do not love men and never have. They have always been bitch sluts that use men. Always wanting Chad. Always suckering in a beta provider with this "LOVE" myth that isn't true. It is impossible for to people that aren't family to love one another. This is why marriages are failing so much now. People think they are suppose to ALWAYS be in love with their partner. Partner? Key word right there. These people are suppose to be BUILDING a stable family. Not thinking only for themselves. So please enough with this love crap. Women never loved men. Tons of dumb white knights are duped into believing in this myth that women created.
a large portion of porn viewers, in a society where porn is everywhere, easily accessible and free, are textbook porn addicts.
Nobody cares because we are fed with precepts that does not account for this extreme profusion of porn, and most people think that there is no shame in watching porn and masturbation is good for your health, completely oblivious to the fact that nowadays porn, with no backstory and performers, men and women, treated like meat, is actually very violent and therefore bad for your brain, and so is compulsive masturbation (masturbation more than 1 time a day for more than a few days = compulsive masturbation).
Now one of the constant in addiction in that the addict will always look for more because his brain slowly get used to more and more to the substance in question.
Now, Lisa Ann is a huge pornstar. So, either she is dumb as a rock (very possible) and can't understand these basic concepts and therefore cannot understand why the demand for extreme porn is growing, or she is a fucking hypocrite.
Oh I absolutely agree with you 100% on that. I think this is why you see so much very rough gangbang porn to. Where they are slapping the girl around, choking her and fucking her as fast and hard as possible. It is so hot though. Especially when the girl is pretty like the two girls in the OP.
Why the hell do girls need so much love from their dads for? Is this a meme or is this real? I always see jokes like "oh daddy would be so proud" or "dad never loved me so I am going to be a complete slut."
You don't see this with guys. Guys don't go "mommy never loved me so I am going to be a hardcore degenerate."
So what gives here?
I just can't help myself anon. It's not my fault that so many of these gorgeous girls do this when I don't even buy porn to begin with. So how am I enabling them? Also how is this cuck?
They know what they're signing up for. They agree to anything they do and they don't have to take a set if they don't like what's going to be done.
>get paid more
See? They even accept some hazard pay.
What they're angry about is that it's getting harder to make money as a porn actress because they're being asked to...you know...work harder and take bigger risks to be relevant in their occupation. If someone complained about that in a normal job setting they'd be told to shut up and be grateful for just having a job.
Nope not even once and I have been a regular here for a long time now. If those threads exist they are rare and the subject just isn't talked about much. Where as it is constantly talked about that fathers need to care for their daughters or they are going to become damaged people.
In a way. Not really in a "sexism" way but in more of a "seeing the difference in the age of the internet" kind of way. It's interesting that we've become so used to vanilla porn that now it's normal for newcomers to just jump right into more extreme shit. It's interesting to think where we'll be 30 years from now when the average kids first exposure to porn is just incredibly rough/fetish stuff.
That's pretty hardcore, dude...
For our fathers, porn was topless women in full makeup posing for magazine photos.
It just gets exponentially more extreme. Both on the social and individual level. Personally, I can attest. When I got into porn in my teens, I never thought I'd end up jacking off to some of the nastier shit I have recently.
>Lisa Ann is a huge pornstar. So, either she is dumb as a rock (very possible) and can't understand these basic concepts and therefore cannot understand why the demand for extreme porn is growing, or she is a fucking hypocrite.
She's 43 and it's starting to show. There's no way she isn't aware that these young girls just entering the business are going to replace her within the next 5 years or so.
All I see is someone trying to scare competition away, and trying, in vain, to stay relevant without having to do broaden what she's willing to do on camera.
Think about it. It's perfectly rational motivation.
Why would she want these young girls coming in? Why would she want the high paying stuff getting more extreme?
She wouldn't. She'd be crazy to want that.
>That's a problem. It doesn't absolve the men who abuse them. And it doesn't absolve the "men" who like to masturbate watching that.
There's nothing to absolve ourselves from moron, you're saying complete bullshit, if they want to be whores were allowed to used them like whores, if women simply stopped being whores there'd be no "abuse" for us to masturbate too, look how easy that was, women gain self respect and get actual drops and we automatically can't get off on their "abuse", two birds with one stone, buts its never gonna happen and I'm glad about that fact ;)
>tfw when women being useless, lazy, hypergamous whores actually has some kind of benefit
i would become a male feminist tomorrow if feminist media would just come out and say that women have NO right to complain about certain things.
like, it doesn't even make sense. you mentioned medicine - that's actually a great example. not only are pre-med, med school, board exams, and residencies incredibly demanding, doctors go into hundreds of thousands in debt easily. but being a doctor is a respected profession, so med students take the negatives with the positives.
no company is hiring a male receptionist. no hospital is showing preference to male nurses over female. 9 out of 10 times i have initial contact with a recruiter or HR person, it's a female. no one is trusting a neckbeard to daycare or in-home care for their child. so on and so forth. as a woman, you are LITERALLY catered to by society.
i'm not even mad about that. and i'm not even mad at the average porn actress. the culprits here are the people lying to gain leverage and PR for themselves, and the droves of women who blindly defend it. can dudes be abusive pieces of shit? absolutely. i'm not saying "deal with it." i'm saying choose your battles. these women can find a better job easily. how about the women who know them reach out with job tips or leads or help with enrolling in school? blind outrage doesn't do anything.
>all these people complaining about women being degenerate
>men are the ones watching more and more degrading/abusive porn and are helping to drive the market in that direction
This is the future you cucks chose.
Men are supposed to indulge in sex. Women are suppose to be pure virgin maidens that wait until they marry a man if they are to perform these nasty sex acts. This all falls on the women. They are the ones who need to behave better.
>There's no argument.
That's an opinion ;), also where was your argument, you didn't even have one, just emotional rambling
>all these people complaining about women being degenerate
You must be blind, I see men complaining about women wanting to have their cake and eat it to, I don't like that they're degenerate but that's not my problem, my problem is them complaining about, they want easy money, I'm glad porn is getting more violent because:
1. That's my fetish
2. We have to at least make them "work for it", getting fucked is easy money
Exactly, its supply and demand, when men argue about women being sluts their first idiotic argument is - "well how come men shouldn't also not have sex", its a stupid retarded argument because if women stopped having sex and waited till marriage men would also stop having sex by default, its two birds with one stone, they control supply and demand but pretend like its not their fault, always wanting to be the victims.
Porn rentals probably represents a niche market of 55 year old guys who grew up jacking off to the cheap porno mags the CIA dumped in bushes near schools all over the country in the 1960's
>take advantage of men's sexual impulses for money and comfort and ego fuel
>complain about men using them
sort of ironic
Oh I'm not saying there may not be an agenda being created by then Jews but the question to ask is does that agenda negatively impact me or other men.
The average cost of raising a child to adulthood is currently $245,000, if MGTOW is this Jew created movement to lower population rates why the fuck should I care when I never really wanted children even before I discovered MGTOW, it actually benefits men as a group, If you guys want to just submit to the incoming matriarchy and bend over then by all means go ahead.
>50 top-rented porn films
I refuse to believe anyone under 50 rents porn.
Of course old man are jacking it to extreme shit. That's how porn works. You just can't get hard for the same shit over and over again. You *have* to go more extreme.
>its a stupid retarded argument because if women stopped having sex and waited till marriage men would also stop having sex by default
>It's women's fault us men have sex with them! We're totally incapable of controlling ourselves!
>unga bunga me man, me need woman to tell me when to sex
Okay bud, speak for yourself.
>it actually benefits men as a group, If you guys want to just submit to the incoming matriarchy and bend over then by all means go ahead.
Good goy. Stop breeding.
Soon your country will be ours.
I think it's more that there are literally thousands and thousands (probably more like tens of thousands) of people who make the vanilla stuff for free, or just camwhore, so the only thing left for the pros is to do stuff that most people wouldn't do even if they were paid.
>>It's women's fault us men have sex with them! We're totally incapable of controlling ourselves!
Its not that, its that were alos totally capable of CONTROLLING THEM and unlike in the east (e.g. Islamic Nations) we choose not to. You literally prove my point though, the fact that we have to "control oursleves" confirms that there is something that needs to be "resisted" and that's the power that women wield but they still play the victim role, if you don't want to be slut shamed then don't be a slut (plain and simple).
>Good goy. Stop breeding.
>Soon your country will be ours.
Lol idiots like you with a collectivist mindset amuse me, I don't care if they take over, and what do you mean by "your country", its the same idiot logic that makes people say "our team won" when you:
1. Don't actually own the team (didn't buy it)
2. Didn't actually help the team win by playing
This isn't "my country", I have no stake in it, I have no sense of nationality, I'm not patriotic, none of those things fucking matter, ironically its idiots like you who are the "goyim" because they can send morons like you to wars to get slaughter while Jews make money of of your death with all the weapons deals, resources taken and annexed lands.
I'm an individual, I live for my own sake.
>Single mothers ahoy.
That is completely different from a girl feeling her father doesn't love her or was never around.
Seriously do these women grow up wishing their fathers committed incest with them or something? Because what exactly do they want their fathers to do for them?
This is fantastic. Let us make these filthy whores as uncomfortable as possible! Then women will think twice before selling themselves to Shlomo.
>Genuinely find abusive porn rather creepy and a turn off.
1. Why is it a turn off for you?
2. What is "creepy", does it even have clear criteria, because as far as I've seen its just used against unattractive males, what's "creepy" for one man to do is "sexy" or "adventurous" with another man (mainly chad)
>or is it just the luck of the draw.
lucky for ones into abusive porn imo kek
You bring up a good point that I've always tried to argue; if we're discussing specifically the sexually active heterosexual world, and for the sake of semantics I'll also mention this excludes rape, women are the keyholders to sex. How is that not obvious? It really is the woman's decision and furthermore related to the actual article, if these women are trying to change the deeply help sexual preferences of literally millions of men, does that not further demonstrate who's actually in charge in the pornography industry? The stereotypical sleazy abusive producer hasn't existed in years and would be undone by today's SJW rampant justice system.
I'm not saying I agree that women are all "playing the victim", but I do think most women don't realize how truly important they are to their individual ecosystems or whatever.
That's not at all what he's saying. There's no implications of zero inhibition, just that for sex to happen, a women has to agree to it (again, excluding rape). Not really sure where you extrapolated that last part.
Horrifying factoid unrelated
>This isn't "my country", I have no stake in it, I have no sense of nationality, I'm not patriotic, none of those things fucking matter, ironically its idiots like you who are the "goyim" because they can send morons like you to wars to get slaughter while Jews make money of of your death with all the weapons deals, resources taken and annexed lands.
>I'm an individual, I live for my own sake.
And when you're gone, you and your ancestors will be a footnote to the Jews.
What a pathetic specimen you are. If I had the power, everyone like you would be executed as race traitors.
What is the deal with woods porn, anyway? I grew up in the 80s and there was woods porn around my grade school (old playboys if I remember right). A whole lot of other people my age have reported similar. But I also know for a fact that my dad also found woods porn when he was a kid back in the 50s. I always just assumed it was where kids stashed it so their parents wouldn't find it.
>Of course old man are jacking it to extreme shit. That's how porn works. You just can't get hard for the same shit over and over again. You *have* to go more extreme.
The older I get the more I just want to see homemade stuff with cute-but-average women having fun doing vanilla stuff with men they obviously get along with, whether they're couples or just friends.
I think needing more and more extreme porn to get off is a meme, just like "weed is a gateway drug and leads to the hard stuff" is a meme.
>What a pathetic specimen you are. If I had the power, everyone like you would be executed as race traitors.
Retard, if were all just going to die and cease to exist then who the fuck cares, I guarantee that you're an atheist but its you guys who don't even comprehend the end result of such a belief system, news flash retard: NOTHING MATTERS IN SUCH A UNIVERSE. Let them take over the whole world for all I care the sun is going to fucking explode millions of years from now and wipe them all out and humanity will just be a footnote to the Universe, you are struggling and focusing on a 100% completely pointless cause, for a 100% completely pointless existence baka.
You clearly didn't even read the article. You are the minority. Men these days want extreme porn. Also you sound like a fucking faggot.
>I want to jerk off to loving couples that love each other because I am a fag
It's okay if you like amateur but the way you say it almost makes you sound like a girl.
>I just want to see homemade stuff with cute-but-average women having fun doing vanilla stuff with men
Lol dude you sound like a cuck, a lot of us hear don't get laid at all, the scenes you just described is basically you watching OTHER PEOPLE GET LAID AND ENJOY THEMSELVES, which is basically already what we do in our actual life, how the fuck can I get off on something I hate in my life daily, you have to have some kind of cuck fetish or you're extremely submissive.
>past the age of 18
pick one anon. Innocence starts to fade away past 14.
Also I don't think /r9k/ is demanding to much from these whores they are past 18/21 and thus legible for their actions nobody forces them to take BBC in while laying on barbed wire or something like that.
Afterall they want to be on par as men so they have to think about their shit before actually doing it.
Are you me?
Big gapes for me baby ahh yeah thats how I like to get my dick sucked now lick my asshole while this other girl gags on my cock and sticks her tongue out to touch the balls too then I gape both your asses ahhhhhhhh
Was thinking the same thing. Many of us on here either seldom get laid or don't at all. So we tend to be a lot more bitter. Which is why women in harder, more rough porn makes us more turned on than regular porn.
What is your fetish taste anon? These girls deserve to be slapped around imo.
>What is your fetish taste anon? These girls deserve to be slapped around imo.
>Think I've found a brother in arms
Into porn where women are being abused or manhandled.
slapping, choking, spitting
>DP's (not slow long stroke bullshit, but tear up her insides rough fast stuff)
>Gangbangs (have a ton of HGB, BGB vids from kink, dload of cost not bought lol)
>Nothing makes me cum faster than rape porn, but it has to look "legit", I see too much bullshit vids where you see the bitch smiling and shit during the rape or she's helping them put their dick in and shit (seriously wtf) - If I could get my hands on some legit rape porn (deep web links from heaven) it would be a dream come true for me, maybe one day.
I'm gonna be the David Lynch of porn directors. The item for my debut effort involves two people engaged in missionary sex while a guy in a satanic ritual goat mask mimes/dances to "Strangers in the Night" by Frank Sinatra
>Keep in mind, the best mind control there is is the one you don't even notice
Regarding the rest of your post, you have some solid points, but you should also take to account the amount of people that quit doing porn as performers and the ages they begin doing it. Most women just do it because they need money, and if they see it as easy money they'll keep doing it.
Kek. nicely done.
Most people just wank to amature shit on xhamster and xvideos.
People paying for porn are a different breed.
Amature porn doesnt get included because it doesnt bring in revenue for big companies.
You also like to see these girls fucked by black dicks?
I seen a lot of HGB and BGB (I'm pretty sure I know what you meant) and they definitely treat these filthy sluts like they deserve to be treated. Throat gaggers is pretty good to.
I only ever seen mock rape scenes. Some were pretty damn good though. We pretty much got similar taste here. Fuck these stupid whores.
>You also like to see these girls fucked by black dicks?
Lol no, even though I'm black myself lol, I'm not huge, no 8+ inch, so watching a bunch of hung black guys just doesn't feel right, it pretty much kills the vibe and unlike white guys I can't get off to that cuck shit. My number one reason I hate black guys in porn is how they act, loud, obnxoious, making more noise than the bitches so you can't hear them moan, making the video about them and constantly reminding you that its them fucking and not you, If I see a vid with only or mostly black guys I turn it off and look for another one, plus they do this annoying slow long stroking shit which doesn't even look violent, its literally just me watching chad pleasure a bitch and talking over her moans (hate black porn) lol
>Throat gaggers is pretty good to
I like the abuse aspect of those vids but I can't bate to them because it usually involves a lot of vomit and having the bitch lick their ass and shit, I'm not into no homo shit like that, that's some submissive sexual shit there, no woman should be putting her finger in your ass and shit lol, you've just reversed the roles and become the penetrated (the submissive) at that point
>I only ever seen mock rape scenes. Some were pretty damn good though. We pretty much got similar taste here.
Links man Links! kek
You sound like a huge cuckold. Any guy that prefers to see the race of another man fucking girls to the point where he will only watch that sounds gay as fuck to me.
Also throat gaggers never makes them puke. They only bring them close to that point but never full blown chunky puke. So I doubt you ever seen that.
>Look at a fucking dictionary. They probably have them in your high school library, retarded child.
That definition is bullshit in the context of male to female romantic interactions and you know it, its unattractive males who get the creepy label
When I'm busy in my life and don't have the time or energy to fap my degenerate tastes reset and I'm just fapping to /s/-tier stuff with maybe some missionary fucking.
When I was a NEET teenager I was on a fucking downward spiral, I was fapping to futa then loli then loli futa then traps then sadism then ryona/abuse then loli futa ryona abuse then quad amputees, scat and fucking BARA, I'm not even gay that's just how deep the rabbit hole went.
>You sound like a huge cuckold. Any guy that prefers to see the race of another man fucking girls to the point where he will only watch that sounds gay as fuck to me.
I don't think you understood what I said, there are a few vids where some black guys just do their job and stfu (silent dick mode) but in a lot of them the black guys just over talk the women, I don't prefer A RACE I prefer A TYPE, the "stfu up don't have much to say, won't talk louder than a bitch moaning" type, and black guys in videos are rarely if ever that type.
Also you need to look up the definition of cuckold, I avoid videos of black guys with huge dicks because I'm not a cuck, if you are seriously looking up specifically vids of guys with a bigger dick than you and you can only get off because of that fact, then its pretty ironic for you to call me a cuck.
What is it you like about the black performers, go ahead and justify it, why should I watch it, so I can masturbate to the sound of a mans voice boasting about how he's wrecking a bitch, you do realize that most videos made with black guys in it are for the FEMALE DEMOGRAPHIC and KEKOLD DEMOGRAPHIC, that's the niche groups these vids are really made for, so that says a lot about you. Go look up blacked.com, who the fuck do you think that website is for, black guys? lol, it isn't moron, its for cucks like yourself and women who can get off slow stroking and big cocks.
What the hell are you going off about? I made one post and here you are making assumptions. I wasn't that other guy FYI. I just brought it up because you clearly got problems if you prefer one type of guy fucking girls over the other. I hope you at least don't fap to wm/bw porn because yes you absolutely are a turbo cuck then.
You both sound like cuckfags to me kiddo. You also sound way too triggered to me to be a black guy. You are probably just trolling pretending you are black. To that I say good one. You fooled me for a few seconds.
>What the hell are you going off about? I made one post and here you are making assumptions
>But makes assumptions about me being a cuckold after one post
>I can't even........
>I wasn't that other guy FYI
Never claimed you were, didn't think you were either
>I just brought it up because you clearly got problems if you prefer one type of guy fucking girls over the other
Dude I just don't want to be reminded that the guy is the one there doing the fucking, that's the point of porn, its like those scenes where the camera man is pointed straight at the guys ass and you can't even see any penetration so you're just there staring at man ass, I skip that shit, you're using idiot logic here, its like you telling me - "I just brought it up because you clearly got problems if you prefer one type of SCENE, you should enjoy watching that man's ass".
>I hope you at least don't fap to wm/bw porn because yes you absolutely are a turbo cuck then.
No I don't because like I fucking said (if you even properly read the damn post) those type of vids are literally targeted at the demopgrahic of women and cucks (seldom white males), its always a bunch of slow long stroking and shit, I can't get off on that because its basically just watching chad fuck stacy and pleasure her. I even gave blacked.com as an example of this (clearly not paying attention).
>You also sound way too triggered to me to be a black guy
1. How the fuck does one "sound" triggered lol
2. So a skin colour has behavioral criteria, sorry man gotta go level up my blackness I guess lol
>You fooled me for a few seconds.
Dude If you're fishing for a "prove you're black" back and forth I don't give a fuck lol, you can believe what you want, right now it just seems like you're the one trolling. (nice bait though)
>Bro I can't even follow what you are saying anymore.
It didn't seem like you followed in the beginning either
>there is no need to make posts this long lol
>4chan is now twitter
>insert arbitrary comment length limit
>basically arguing for the end of green text stories (best part of 4chan)
>Wew lad slam on the breaks before you crash.
aaaawwwwww stfu lol, talking about something in detail and properly explaining = mad now, guess I should have left out the curses to avoid "triggering" you guys
I think this is a great example of not knowing where the fuck everything broke down. It's one of the few porn videos where I'm sad watching it
Not really "shocking", just some black woman reciting how she inherently hates all men because her father abandoned her at the age of 4 and had another family............ yet she goes and pick a job that gets her brutally fucked by men (female logic is the inverse of logic)
>men getting into passionate arguments over porn tastes
These idiots should be plowing our fields.
>who are "okay" with being abused for money. That's a problem.
Yeah, it is a problem. Their problem.
If they're mentally children, they should go get diagnosed and hope they get a caretaker. If they want to be treated as adults, they should have the free will to go make whatever grievous mistakes they sign up for.
>oh no those poor women where abused
>lmao mommy issues degenerate loser
well there's definitely fields getting plowed I tell you whut
>All I've ever watched is spanking porn
>those are just weird honestly
Oh the irony, your fetish sounds like something people get after being molested by a parental figure (they spanked then molest you).
>blame men for women suffering
>completely ignore the fact that they could just avoid porn industry and live according to their ideals
>instead of focusing on WHY men tend to search that or completely be done with the industry and move out, they call out men as degenerate.
>current year is one of the most femenist influenced time in history, yet they still keep bitching on men
>mainstream media totally supports this idea and keeps flooding papers with how patriarch our society is
Once again, divide and conquer, manipulating information, missusing language to achieve goals far away from greater good for everyone
Yet here we are fighting each other like ants, while being observed and controlled by hornets who act from the hidden
Nah, my parents never once hit me. Honestly I'm not sure what turned me on to this, I was never hit by anyone as a kid. Never even emotionally abused. I knew I was into spanking for sure at about 13 though (doing the spanking not getting spanked)
You might have a little hebophilia/pedophilia fetish, if you want to do the spanking the next question is who do you want to spank, and that's usually associated with children or teens.
I may just be projecting though (I'm a lolicon)
Nah I don't want to hit kids. Not even going into the fact that kids wouldn't know what's going on, their bodies are not sexually attractive to me. The youngest I'd go is 15 (which is legal in my country), but practically probably 19-20.
>their bodies are not sexually attractive to me
>The youngest I'd go is 15 (which is legal in my country)
15 isn't really a age where I'd consider women have "developed" bodies lol, I'm gonna guess you're in sweden. The youngest I'd go is a country I wasn't born in (Japan), age 13.
>you're turned on by watching women get fucked by another dude.
That's idiot logic there friend, the intent is what determines the act not the act itself, by your logic there's no difference between me mistakenly bumping into someone and me charging into them on purpose. Cucks get off on being put in a position of submission and having their woman used, most guys watching porn aren't projecting themselves as a guy having his bitch used, they aren't thinking of the woman being fucked as "their woman".
Think about, are guys who watch rape porn cucks when they just get off on that woman being abused and not their relationship towards that woman (she's your gf or wife.)
I saw this chick, must've been high school age, walking around in tightest yoga pants, was super apparent she had a thong under. Literally made me stop for a moment because I just wanted to touch it. Instead I went home to jerk off, play video games and continue being an overall failure.
I just need more ass in my life to be happy. But nooo.
You never felt a big phat ass before? They feel so nice to grab. Extremely soft and meaty. Especially when the girl has nothing on. One of the best feels you can experience with your hands.
Yes I know that feel. Girls that are nice in any way depress me actually. They also make me angry. They just inspire all kinds of negative emotions.
>lists things that aren't white
Nice try clucking famiglio.
This is the industries fault, not the consumer. Theres enough porn out there that falls into most peoples taste that could last for years on end. The problem is they produced so much so fast that people were able to develop such niche tastes and could view them involving specific actresses. Now they are looking to take their own problem and run full speed with it
I'm not saying vanilla pornstars need to go hardcore, but damn is it a hot concept
I love the idea of a sexy, tight little tease model eventually after so long finally doing a video where she's getting fucked, and then /nobody/ wants to see her tease. After that, all she can get for work is men who want to bend her over and fuck her, and use her like a cheap piece of meat. With every video she has to debase herself further and further if she wants to keep the attention of the fleeting, fledging audience.
Damn it's hot. Damn they should have really just gone to college instead.
Damn it guys why do these girls have to do this for?
>why are you so mad about me not being as autistic as you
I can go literally anywhere and find people less autistic than me retard, why would I want to encounter you cretinous neurotypicals here? I come here to escape and have every right to be upset when you ruin the good vibes with your mundane normie problems.
>you dont even know what you are missing yet you are throwing a bitch fit
This argument is nonsense. I do not need to know what I am missing. I am unhappy with my situation and that is all that matters.
if anything, it's the opposite. there are more male subs than ever, and they get really extreme with it, to the point of outright torture. these days, more men fap to women abusing us than vice versa
Women should be abused as much as possible in porn, they are getting paid to have sex. The least they can do is put some effort into it, especially if they make a career out of it.
If they don't want to do interesting shit they can just be a camwhore and rake in beta bux.
I wonder how many of these women would be abused off camera by Chad for free. And how many only do stuff like this for money.
Both are horrible hypocrites if they blame men for the problem. If I had a cute-hot girlfriend fucking me like a porn star, I wouldn't need porn. The movie Don John is about this. Women don't do anything to COMPETE with porn-sex. No blow jobs, missionary sex all the time, lights off so you can't even see her to get aroused...
Basically if women put out like pornstars the demand for porn wouldn't be what it was in the first place. The whole debate is interesting when you consider how much women manipulate men with sex and how it's backfiring.
I'm about 30% sub at most, and not very hardcore about it
I mostly fap to vanilla stuff featuring girls with thick asses/thighs
alright I suppose
this is an ass/thigh thread now
>disgusting fat lard attached to her backside
this is a skelly thread now
>tfw can only fap to vanilla porn
>tfw find rough porn and fetish type porn degenerate and disgusting
>tfw fucking degenerate normies ruin porn for you
What a bunch of savages. Is there seriously such a demand to see women get abused? That's fucking disgusting.
It should be the other way around. I need more extreme femdom porn, and men are tougher anyways. They can handle it.
Really, more high production porn in general. Im tired of seeing two people boning on a couch.
I'm a kike, so probably
low test betas detected
So wait! Everyone in this fuckin thread is acting like these women are blaming men for the hardships they have to go through in the porn industry! Where the fuck do they say that in the article!? Or are you guys just projecting super hard right now?
I honestly believe a lot of these women think they're going to do a scene or two and retire as millionaires. That makes sense to female logic, there is a camera involved and she's being told she's good looking. That must mean tons of money right?
Wrong. Porn barely pays per shoot. So she finds she keeps having to make more and more, than do the other fringe-related stuff, like become a stripper, escort, doing cam shows.
Women don't think about because they don't SEE that. It's funny watching them be shocked at their own lack of forward planning and research.
>This fucks up their mind and they end up believing sexual pleasure of men is all they are good for. Often poverty, or ongoing sexual abuse, or outright human trafficking is used to get women into porn.
This is wrong like >>26084361 pointed out. Imagine this -- those women LIE about that stuff. They know it's going to deflect negative judgement (their number one priority in life) and so they come up with a typical female sob story.
There is a documentary on Netflix, Hot Girls Wanted, about this. This girls that got into the porn seemed "normal" as possible. Hell, they were interviewing the girls parents the entire time! They were together, in a small farm house!
I personally think the vast majority of porn girls get into it because their bored, vain and materialistic. It's easy attention and easy money, they think. That's what the girl in the documentary said. How much she liked going out to the club and getting attention for doing porn, but the second she was getting negative attention for it she wanted to quit and pretend she was being exploited!
Am sure you can hold out. After 14 days you'll have more control.
More women need to do softcore and gravure. Hardcore is shit.
That's a good point about having to work life-crushing jobs for pennies.
These woman wanted easy attention and easy money. I bet every single one of them thought "porn" as vanilla sex with Chad for hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's basically your average women's lifestyle anyways. All women fuck for money in some way, shape or form. Porn actresses acknowledge this and say they like sex and they like money, but the second they're asked to give the kind of sex a guy wants? Oh no she's being exploited! "Exploited" means "I'm not getting my way right now" in womanese.
Women in general still haven't figured out that part of HAVING A JOB is DOING THINGS YOU NORMALLY WOULDNT WANT TO DO.
You still have a false sense of respect for women.
Once you hear about women doing degrading, abuse things for Chad without getting paid it makes it easier to realize she's getting what she wanted. Even complaining about it what they wanted to.
I remember when I used to watch those things I was very bitter and had some hate towards women, but I never approached one or went along with their advances. It's like a power fantasy, but it still makes you feel like a cuck either way.
This. Don't worry anon, I have your back.
>Implying human beings, especially female ones, use the actual definition of words instead of the emotional connotation it brings.
I LITERALLY went to the MOON.
See what I did there? Same thing with the word creepy. You're fucking nu-male cuck who's never actually talked to a woman if you don't realize they don't use actual definitions of words. Ever.
>(female logic is the inverse of logic)
Oh I know.
>This male is an asshole to me! I know, I'll give him the greatest physical stimulation he can possible feel! That'll get him to stop being an asshole to me!
I think "cause and effect" just can't exist in the female head. They can never realize SEX IS A REWARD for us. If you [insert behavior here] and get sex you will continue [insert behavior here] FOREVER. It's the most rudamentory part of biology.
My best guess is that women, even if they clue into this, do it because Chad is hot and beta has money and she want's sex/attention from an attractive person and money so she'll forget those other things she complains about. Errors in logic always imply ulterior motives in humans.
>Lol dude you sound like a cuck, a lot of us hear don't get laid at all, the scenes you just described is basically you watching OTHER PEOPLE GET LAID AND ENJOY THEMSELVES, which is basically already what we do in our actual life, how the fuck can I get off on something I hate in my life daily
What's the difference? At least in homemade the girls don't fake it.
Sounds like you two chucklefucks are just in denial. Because you're not having sex and you're so bitter about it you just want to pretend the only people that do it are plastic fuckhole pornstars.
Amateur sex you get the playful the cute and the nasty.
Are you two retarded enough to believe anyone here pays for porn?
When i do watch 3d porn it's mostly amateur stuff or camwhores from /soc/ anyway.
This is literally not my problem, I wouldn't pay a dime for facial ass fucking midget abuse 5 and your anal prolapse is your own goddamn problem.
Porn sluts also dont get royalties on their fuck flicks even when the videos get 10 million views on pornhub.
They get paid 300 bucks to get their guts speared by nigger dick and that is all
I like how in the article, referring to the porn actresses who take the rougher jobs for more money, "plus, they're trying to live in a lavish way" is evidence for how these girls are being exploited.
Maybe. But that is their choice to decide in the end. As long as women voluntarily sign up for the porn industry, there is no moral crime being committed.
There are some things that just either don't happen or do happen but in a much more shittier way in amateur.
Amateur fags just don't seem to be able to comprehend this shit. When have you ever seen a girl in amateur porn take a bunch of loads up the ass? You can find many examples of this in pro porn but it is pretty much non existent in amateur porn. I never even seen it myself in amateur.
Amateur fags seem so pretentious about their porn too.
These people have no idea about camera angles, lighting, make up, etc.
They think it's "push record on phone-camera and fuck." It's boring.
>Amateur fags seem so pretentious about their porn too.
After this thread I'm thinking it's basically just the contrarian thing to do. It's so guys feel less awkward about it or something. "This is what REAL sex is like" No sex involving a camera is ever real sex because those people are still behaving in a way with a camera in mind.
I seen an anon say it before in a thread I can't remember. He said he thinks most people that like amateur are simply normalfags that have already had a lot of sex. What you said is probably true but it sill much closer to real sex than porn sex is simply because it would be two non pornstars that are likely a couple. So that part is very real. It's just that it's too real and as you said, they still have to work in a way that it looks good on camera. So it is basically normal people fucking while also trying to make it look good for the camera. So it's doubly boring than had they fucked off camera.
I seen a lot of amateur now and it can be good but the pretentiousness of the fags on 4chan that go on and on about how much better it is really pisses me off since they are missing the entire point of why so many guys continue to and will continue to prefer pro porn. I want to see a hot girl with good angles and great lighting. Just so happens pro porn is absolutely perfect for this so why go through a ton of amateur scenes just to find what I am looking for when I can easily have myself fapping much quicker taking my pick of the tons of pro porn out there? That will usually have girls just as attractive or far more so.
The best amateur girls are those "career amateur girls like Amber Blank. the ones who are nymphos that put out a lot of videos simply because they like to fuck. I don't care about john blow and plain jane that are in a relationship and want to brag about their fucking by making one stupid 5 minute video and never making anything else. Fuck that stupid shit.
> I don't care about john blow and plain jane that are in a relationship and want to brag about their fucking by making one stupid 5 minute video and never making anything else. Fuck that stupid shit.
Like you said above, I see an element of normism there. The normies highest priority in life is making sure people know they're sexually attractive people who have sex, when it's socially appropriate to do so of course. That's the sense I got from a lot of amateur stuff.
>"Look at me I'm so sexy! I'm so hot! Look at me!"
>"Yeah bro MY DICK IS TOUCHING A VAGINA. PRAISE ME! Look at how SEX I AM!"
>brag about their fucking by making one stupid 5 minute video
>5 minute video
i wish. more like 45 seconds - 1 minute, 30 seconds.
i met this girl on okcupid who's made a couple solo videos and one with her boyfriend. the solo one only showed the bottom half of the dildo and her asshole. no tits, no vagina, and a tight close-up on the ass-skin with no sexiness or curvature to be seen. like 43 seconds. the sex video was in the literal darkness. just saw light glinting off the boyfriend's dick every few seconds. the moaning was kinda hot, so there's that. but still. it was like a 1 minute and 10 seconds.
i couldn't make porn that bad if i wanted to. holy shit. i think that girl was just so obsessed with "lol i'm a empowered porn actress" that she gave no thought to how it even looked.
Very well said. This is exactly the reason why so many guys on this board hate normies. Your average person is a huge fucking moron since as you put it, sex is already massively accepted so why do they continuously go out of their way to brag about their conquests? Then you got the disgusting levels of narcissism and conceited attitdes such as them wanting to show off by making a porn. Then these same stupid sluts get pissed whenever they inevitably jump to the next guy and he doesn't like that she made a porn. Usually she will probably claim the guy uploaded it without her knowing (clearly bullshit of course).
Doesn't surprise me. Yet amateurfags will continue to go on about how great amateur is. Next time I see these fags say how great it is I'm going to ask they link some good videos just to see what they consider a good video.