I'm a coward. A fucking coward. In my 25 years of life,

Why? What does it matter if you go up to a girl and tell her that? What do you gain, what does it change about you? Just because you did it once does it mean now you are "Courageous"? Where does this courage exist?

You want this just because you want to measure up to some ideal you have in your head that you got from media, from society, from your own fantasies. It will change nothing because you are not a "coward," it is merely an imaginary self-concept.

just go for it! go up to a girl and tell her she's cute!

then she'll think you're weird and creepy. and she'll try to disengage either politely or very impolitely. you'll be embarrassed in a public setting, everyone will see it happen. she will remember your face. she'll tell all her friends how weird and creepy you are. word will spread. people will know you're the creep. any time you see her again will be painful and and awkward. the pain of rejection and embarrassment and failure will never leave you, you'll remember it years down the line and want to smack yourself.

>>26068281
Its that mentality man that is holding you back. Im not trying to preach some normie voodoo shit but man stop thinking so low of yourself. You posted a pic of one my favorite movies. Do what shawn does, become an absolute champ. This attitude though
>its impossible

Go outside right now find a random chick in a shopping center, like a bookshop, just walk up to her and say "hey i just wanted to let you know you're really cute" smile and walk away. Its that simple. You do know you'll most likely make her day as well. She will feel good about herself and in turn you'll feel good.

>>26068420
Warning: this doesn't work if you're unattractive

>>26068376
Girls don't usually approach guys, so if I have any hope of losing my virginity or falling in love I'll need to approach and talk to a girl. I lack the courage right now to do this, I talk myslef out of doing it everytime.

For all the bullshit feminism spews, woman still expect the guy to initiate - it's just a fact of life.

>>26068380
That's exactly why I want to approach a woman I'll never see again. A woman in some distant mall, or distant event.

They'll be no repercussions for this if I never see them again, but I'm still too scared to speak.

>>26068453
Really? How do you honestly know anon? When was the last time you did something like i just said? Do you really think people are so mean that they'll say "EWWW CREEP DONT COMPLIMENT ME, SECURITY UGLY GUY JUST SAID I WAS CUTE" this isn't fucking primary school man. Please even if you look like dogshit warmed up, everybody loves to be complimented, especially girls who work so long to try and look good, doing makeup etc.

>>26068420
I wish I could man, I wish. Thanks for your advice mate, I'll try my best, I can't promise anything but I'll try to do that. Hopefully I can go through with it.

>>26068543
Ugly men are creeps, nobody wants a creep coming up to them. Look at that creep. Disgusting. How long was he staring at me? I bet he followed me here. I bet he took a picture of me. Fucking creeps.

>>26068281
>measuring your self-worth through women

They're worthless anon. Give up on them and be happy with yourself as you are.

>>26068650
But I want to be wanted, or at the very least to feel what sex is like before I die.

>>26068592
Np anon, i wish you well in your adventures of life. Remember, its exactly like getting a needle. Once its done, its done. Trust me you will feel fucking fantastic for doing it.

>>26068595
Is this some /r9k/ shit meme? Or is this really your attitude? What you just described it akin to someone with a paranoid mental disorder of creep looking people. Normies are like goldfish man they dont obsess over stuff, they live it and forget it 5 seconds later. I urge you friend to stop thinking so low of yourself and inhaling the memes of this place.

>>26068770
Not a meme, just personal experience of an actually ugly man. Our compliments and affection are unwanted. It makes sense, who cares if some ugly guy thinks you're cute?

>>26068814
A lot of people care anon. Out there right now is some girl who thinks she looks like shit and you come along and tell her she looks cute. Do you honestly in all your existence think she'll just toss your compliment aside because of your looks? Girls hunger for compliments these days because a lot of their value comes from their appearance. That is why girls love facebook because they can get prettied up take a photo and instantly get compliments and value. The only way you will experience true resistance from girls is if you go after the cunt ones, not even worth your time in the first place.

>>26068719
Escorts are a viable choice

>>26069025
They get prettied up so they get compliments from guys they LIKE or find attractive. A comment from a robot means absolutely nothing. That's why I never compliment woman, ever. It's unwanted, so I won't bother.

>>26069061
This anon. Escorts have been around for hundreds of years. Don't be afraid to try them because of the stigma.

>>26069025
>>26069158
This argument will never end. Neither of you will ever agree with the other.

>>26069160
>>26069061
I'd rather die a virgin than have to pay for it. I guess I don't just want the physical act, there needs to be some emotion behind the sex. Otherwise it'd be no different from masturbation.

>>26069025
>>26069178
somebody post the link to that reddit thread where girls say they are insulted by ugly people approaching them. I found some but its not the particular on im looking for

>>26068281
online dating sites op duh

>>26069284
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY8rzo4Ik4M

>>26069284
Dating sites are even more cruel than real life

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>>26069160

Seriously though, are escorts safe? Can I just pick one on Craigslist and go fuck one? What are the chances of me getting some sort of fucked up STD like herpes? How legally risky is this shit? What are the chances of me NOT getting my dick wet? Is it out-calls or in-calls where you go to their house?

Also, I want to try oral sex (I wanna eat a butthole so bad) and kissing, but that's pretty dangerous to do on a whore, so that's a bit of a bummer, and even a whore probably wouldn't let me do it.

>>26069158
They do it to feel good about themselves and to gain value by attracting the opposite sex they're interested in sure. My point still stands though, your compliment no matter how ugly you are(which i bet isn't even that ugly) will still give her value which she so desperately craves.

>>26068281
I'll show you how to do this in a few simple steps:
>observe attractive woman
>notice what she's wearing
>take note of what stands out to you
>without thinking, B line over into her direction immediately
>"Hey, I never give compliments but I just wanted to say _______ looks great on you, that's all. Take care."
>walk away and proceed to do whatever you were going to do
>don't look back

Of course the compliment should be about something that you observe and like about that person. I rarely give compliments, so when I do they're completely sincere. Be genuine and no one is going to shit all over you for paying a compliment.

>>26069226
Yeah, don't pay for it. Honestly, it's shit tier if you have to pay for pussy.

Sort of related to OP, but I feel like I avoid getting into relationships or a social life because of the responsibilities these things entail, while I can do what I want with all my spare time, with the way things are now. Does anyone else feel this way?

>>26069430
This seems extremely unnatural and creepy if you're below Chad level aesthetics. Am I wrong? I feel like nobody fucking talks this way

>>26069280
They're cunts anon. Plain and simple. Some girls, the real sad and stupid ones, the ones not worth a second of your time, all they care about in their entire world is image, image is everything to them, they border mental disorders because of this. Just have a laugh at them and their pathetic lives. Any girl that is a decent human being will love a compliment and or being approached.

>>26069358
I'm guessing you're from the usa which makes it a little harder. I haven't used craigs list for escorts before but if you're safe and research one that seems decent you should be fine. Outcall they come to you, incall you go to them. Goodluck anon.

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>>26069460

Yup.

Literally does not matter what you say or do not say. If it's sexual or perceived as being potentially a romantic come-on, it's perceived as disgusting and pathetic if you're ugly.

Your attractiveness is the only thing that matters in this case.

Just wait until you can have a female/futa VR body so you and some other neckbeard can date each other over the internet and have e-sex together. Let's be honest: It'd be more satisfying emotionally and physically than being with a real woman.

>>26069460
It's not what you say, it's how you say it. I've approached situations like that before and said things that are similar. Although, using something that I wrote verbatim is going to sound scripted and contrived. Like I said, be genuine.

>>26069557

>just b ursel fguys

Again, you can't be ugly. If you're ugly, they're either going to be seriously creeped out or just laugh at you.

Some of the stuff being posted here is ridiculous, everyone likes a tasteful compliment which makes them feel good about themselves.
Some of you must have serious social issues if you're unable to deliver a compliment without it being interpreted as sexually aggressive. And yes, if you're going to act sexually aggressive to someone you better be attractive to them and can't complain if they reject you for it.

As a tip, learn to give a compliment on the side and not as something you expect a response for.

>>26069538
You're an faggot beyond words. It's no wonder no one here climbs out of the cycle of despair when there are complete degenerates like you that encourage them to fail. I hope you die from a seizure while watching VR porn.

Are you a lonely child and was raised by your mother alone?

>>26069577
>be genuine
>be yourself
What? You can be sincere with someone without having to "JUST B URSELF". You're just as pathetic as that anime watching faggot (>>26069538).

>>26069628
you know it my man

that scenario causes a whole host of fucked up shit :)

>>26069479
>all they care about in their entire world is image, image is everything to them, they border mental disorders because of this.

And 4chan doesn't obsess over image, with the constant height threads, cringe threads, etc?

ITT: people who aren't ugly give advice that doesn't work for ugly people

>>26069433
It can be taxing sometimes. I used to love spending time with my ex; we'd be together like 4-6 times a week. Now with my current gf, I see her 2-3 times max and sometimes skip out. Same thing with friends.

>>26068281
Start taking hormones so you can pass of as a girl and then I'll take you and your boipussy to pound town faggot.

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>>26069597

This is what happens when you let the normies take over, anons. We get people that think chasing roasties is a good idea and that VR sex is disgusting.

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>>26068281
I'm 23 and i've regretted not standing up for myself. Everytime i wanted to say something back to people i imagined being too edgy. I've always thought that it's better not to get on people bad side because maybe one day i'll need them. I hate myself.

>>26069696
Then talk to ugly girls.
As a guy you have two choices on getting what one would consider being an attractive girl:
>good looking
>rich
If you have neither than you are left with the ugly girls no one even notices.

>>26069360
No it doesn't because she most likely has comments thrown at her by dozens of guys.
They just get filtered out because it's so common and unimportant.

What she really wants is the guy she likes to notice her, everyone else is a ghost.

>>26068281
The key is that you regard approaching women as a dating thing.
Start out by approaching women just to smalltalk and socialise. Approach ugly ones or those you have no interest in dating in at the start, to get over your fear. This will get you accustomed to the opposite sex.

>on subway seated
>fucking beautiful girl comes on train, 10/10 in my eyes, we hold eye contact for 2 seconds - feels like an eternity for me
>suddenly carriage fills up and she's behind other people
>many stops later crowd dies down
>see she's still in carriage
>she gives a seat directly in front of me to someone else
>few stops later
>she finally sits down, opposite seat to me 3 seats to the left
>I pretend not to notice her but see she doesn't have a ring on her finger YES
>I glance in her direction before getting up, she's actually looking at me and quickly turns away when she sees I see her
>I get off train, she gets off as well coincidently
>I don't like walking behind her since I dont want to scare her so speed up and pass her, my mind is screaming at me at this point to say something to her but I chicken out as I pass her
>I'm beating myself up at this point, saying I'm a cowardly sack of shit to myself and go to a platform out of 8 available platforms
>I'm standing around waiting for next train
>suprise, suprise, she's COMING TO THE SAME PLATFORM AS ME
>My mind is fucking going in overdrive now screaming at me, pleading with me to do SOMETHING, ANYTHING
>she fucking walks 10cm in front of me, she walk by sooo fucking close to me
>I do nothing
>I still do nothing
>Then my train comes
>Then I get on the train
I will never see her again and I will never forgive myself for being such a coward, She was perfection.

>>26069656
I am aswell and my life lacks any sort of engagement for my own sake When it comes to women.

Does anybody know If it's common among lonely children raised by single moms to have skewed relations to women?

>>26069880
>She was perfection.
I'm sure that would've changed when you got to know her

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Remember, women love getting compliments from anyone, it makes them feel good :)

>>26069941
Maybe there's another me in another universe who worked up the courage to speak to her, got to know her, fucked her, lived with her and found out she wasn't a great match for him.

But that will never be me, I will never know what could have been.

>>26069997
Fucking hell that's ruthless

Like what in the fuck?

>>26069687
of course they do, a lot of people do anon. Its a natural thing. My point still stands though. If a girl is such an outrageous cunt to complain about being approached by an ugly guy she is a shit person not worth a second of your time.

>>26069815
That is the mentality of a highschool girl yes. Still, she gets value from those comments no matter what you say.

>>26069997
Exactly what im talking about. She is a stupid cunt, not worth a second of your time.

>>26070019
>Maybe there's another me in another universe
There is, and he has herpes and is into scat.

Guys if anyone else looks at this thread, i want you to know you're something. Life isn't as bad you think. If you truly feel you're the lowest of the low the only way you can go is up. Always have hope that things will get better, because they usually do. Have a positive outlook on life and it will radiate back to you. Be grateful for the life you've been given. Do not squander it.

>>26070061
The problem is how many people are shit people? I think the number is in the range of a lot or most.

>>26070326
>the only way you can go is up
Or dead.

>>26070061
Whatever man. I know where I stand in life. I think you're trying to convince the wrong crowd.

I'm kind of in the same situation as OP.
But I can talk to girls. I can make them laugh and smile and flick their hair at me, and I can engage them.
The trouble is I can't compliment, touch or flirt with them.
As soon as I try negativity floods in and stops me dead in my tracks and I find some way to leave.

The best I've managed is randomly giving some girl I liked a quick hug and it came out as a bit awkward.

I don't know why I'm so afraid of intimacy. I think I just can't let go of past humiliation and abuse.

>>26070326
Great advice for normal people anon, but I don't think it really applies to us.

I've tried to be positive, and be super cheerful and open but that only lasted a few weeks before I reverted to my old pessimistic ways. My default state is having a negative outlook, I find it incredibly difficult to even smile.

>>26070326
I'll take empty platitudes for 200 Alex.

>>26070451
>Alex: "And it's a double jeopardy! The 400 point question: Name four different endlessly regurgitated normie platitudes."

"Oh don't worry, you'll find someone someday."
"Oh don't worry, everything happens for a reason."
"Oh don't worry, once you've hit your lowest you can only go up."
"Oh don't worry, depression is just a mindset."

>>26070326
And how's that worked out for you? Have you had a practical application of this advice?

>>26070557
He doesn't need to apply it, his life is fine.

I know you mean well but a lot of people here are beyond blind optimism

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Honestly I just take all my negative emotions about being a 23 year old virgin and use it to lift

Not being attractive sucks. If I ever get a GF it will because she needs my money

>>26070591
I want to do this but I'm too scared to go to a gym so I just throw around dumbbells in my house like a retard

>>26070331
Many many people anon more so than not. It sucks but it is how it is. It makes it even better when you encounter someone who is good.

>>26070368
Never kill yourself anon, buy a plane ticket and go explore alaska.

>>26070403
I understand anon, when all you see is darkness the thought of light is absurd. Just always remember things will get better one day. Even if its years from now.

>>26070428
You cant force it man, never try and force happiness, it makes it even harder. Just do things you enjoy. Read a really good book and delight in the style of writing. I don't know what interests you. If you're stuck in a depressive state which is keeping you prisoner , i suggest watching movies, endlessly watching movies till the depression lessens may help.

>>26070557
Being positive can change your world.

>>26070583
My life is far from fine anon. Why do you think i would be giving this advice on a chinesey tea selling forum? I have been in the lowest of the lows before and no one blinked an eye. I pulled myself up, by myself and have reached peace with the world. Being angry all the time is a horrible feeling, it drains you, relentlessly. Do not give in.

>>26070557
being positive friend no matter what the world throws at you is the key. When you feel shit, always remember who you are, your goals, and most importantly that it life will get better.

>>26068281
Yeah.
Women aren't that special. You're just retarded.

I am truly sorry if i came across as a preaching normie faggot, i didn't want this. I just wanted to try and make you guys feel a little better. Again i am sorry, i wish you all well in your lives.

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>>26068281
As long as you're not REALLY ugly, you will be OK.

Pic related. Ugly guy asks out hundreds of girls, and, well, read on a find out.

>>26068281

OP, cold approaching is a meme propagated by sales people. Even Chads fuck women within their own social circles ffs! Yes, also one night stands occasionally, but ONLY when there's a LOT of alcohol AND a shared value system venue (i.e. student party or club, concert with many young people).

>>26068281
Best advice in this whole thread was:
>>26069430
Because it's a set of instructions that can be followed

All the "just go for it, believe in yourself, change your mentality" bullshit is vague and useless. The most helpful advice is that which consists of clear direct instructions, e.g:
>best places to approach women (e.g. supermarket?)
>what to wear.
>EXACTLY what to say to a girl. Word for word.
>The general body language to use.
>Whether to walk up to them and say it, or say it as I walk past them etc.