Im soon to be 29 and never scored shit. Why? Because I have no social life whatsoever. Thats what gets you opportunities. Well, in my case its a little late to regain a social circle but Im pretty shure op will have his chances.
>>26047967 not a joke man, I'm a 5'5'' shitskin manlet with a 8/10 gf. I'm pretty funny by most people's standards and I acted confident around her a lot when we were still just friends and it worked great.
its called pre-selection. start getting female friends, just show women that you are around other women, it will really raise you in their eyes.you want to talk to women, but don't be needy or thirsty, without showing signs of interest or complimenting her, you want to signal to her that you are screening her for sex. you need to develop a connection, maintain good eye contact, and be the dominant one in the conversation. until you can become the dominant one you will never get shit. a little bit of money and a douchebag, jerk attitude can get ugly dudes with very good looking girls. the minute she thinks you're falling for her more than she's falling for you it's over. she wants to feel like she's the one chasing you. and most importantly, you need to look fun. women only care about having fun.
so there you have it. women are pretty simple creatures, and only like one thing. the best thing to do is just be yourself and tell women to go to hell. for me, that includes being a total douchebag to women. i always hated women but because i felt inferior, i always pretended to be nice to them. women are generally pretty ruthless, so you can really go all out with your hate. problem is, it will make women addicted to you.
>>26048325 Use Tinder. You can easily make female friends out there, also the fact that you met on dating app will make them think about you as a man looking for sex or relationship, don't try to hit on them so they will get more and more interested in you. I don't know, it worked for me, 3 female friends in one month.
>>26048325 Are you in college? Talk to girls in your class. Do you work full time? Talk to girls you work with.
>>26048411 Get female friends by talking to females. See above. If you are a NEET then either get a job or go to school, and then follow the above. Literally just become their friends and have NO ulterior motives. A hot female friend is the most useful resource a single male has, as hot girls know other hot girls who happen to be single.
Realizing that women are human beings and not puzzles to be solved or wild animals to be observed usually helps. Also not thinking all women are the same and understanding that different women like different things I'd a good start. But you guys will probably listen to >>26048241 instead because his explanation makes human contact sound more like a video game walkthrough and you guys prefer to see women as a different species.
>le women are humans and you can get a gf if you try meme
Its obvious the problem is women, becuase if you're gay its very easy to find a bf who is more attractive than you. On the other hand, its almost impossible to find a gf who is at least half as attractive as you because women have the same luxery as gays: that men don't judge by looks.
>>26047850 This >>26047889 is actually 100% true for a lot of girls. Personality can do wonders for a guy with average looks. The majority of guys I've ever really had a thing for were almost always average/slightly above average but their personalities were fuckin A. But you need to be funny and have game.
There is literally one thing women want, and it is to be entertained, to be honest. Women's number one complaint is that they are bored or something is boring. They're not interesting, funny or entertaining themselves, and in exchange for their bodies, that is what they want. If you're a stupid cunt on here asking how, why, what, probably you are too much of a tedious shithead to have any male friends let alone female ones. You're shit out of luck.
Everyone can get laid at a party, if not by picking up girls then wait for them to come to you. That's how I usually do it because beta, I just act like I'm whooooah too drunk and that's why I'm not hitting on everyone. Worst case scenario you find the girl passed out in the hall and drag her back to an empty bedroom or closet. Sometimes the passed out girls aren't even that bad looking. In fact I'd say it's usually the case.
It's that easy. No jus bee urself, just be there at the party where they give out sex for free to everyone.
>>26048564 >men don't judge by looks Are you really this delusional? Men are so judgemental about looks that there are entire multi billion dollar industries dedicated to making women more appealing to men. Not to mention women are indoctrinated from a young age to believe that their value is based completely around how desireable she is to men and that being attractive is the best way to accomplish that goal. Also how is women being human a "meme"? It's an objective fact.
>>26048600 Oh, so suggesting "don't treat women as subhuman" must mean I'm a woman, right? Because what man would ever consider that maybe the best way to have meaningful relationships with women is to treat them as equals?
Be alpha, assertive, confident, funny but not too funny like an idiot, and most importantly successful. Also make sure she knows that you're down to get down with other men in an MMF threesome for m'lady's pleasure. Just be sure she never sees you actually take it up the ass, she will lose all respect for you. I found that out the hard way.
>>26048910 Yes, I know how it sounds and I can't understand it as well, bro. I was talking to these girls about random shit, my hobbies, their hobbies, how are they, you know trying to be normie but nothing like "you're hot" and shit and now we are hanging out sometimes for a beer of cofee, talking about music and funny stories, they were saying something like "oh, I can't belive somebody like you were on Tinder" or "why don't you have a girlfriend, you're a cool guy!", but I was like cold motherfucker responding "yeah, how is your brother?", so I guess they are mine whenever I want them.
Men aren't judgemental by looks. They are turned on by looks, but they usually don't settle with someone more attractive than themselves for life partners. Also, if you look at most pornstars, they are very fucking ugly, their only saving grace is make-up. Same with most women actually. Women don't want to look more appealing to men, they want to look more appealing to other women. Women's entire lives revolve around status with other women, so they will do everything they can to one-up each other. Also, women are not brought up that way at all. Women are taught they're special snowflakes who can achieve anything whereas men are brought up being told they're privileged scum who's function in life is to compete with each other for women's amusement. Men are stronger, faster and more intelligent than women because women have a monopoly on repropduction, so it is up to the male to impress women, not vice-versa. I know this my friend is a fat gay nerd and h's shagged over 50 men, whereas I'm a white, virile, 22 year old man and have to kiss a women. WOmen quite clearly live life on easy mode and average guys aren't needed because Chad and Tyrone have more than enough sperm to go around for rosties, smelly pussy NEETs and waifus alike.
>>26049005 >if you look at most pornstars, they are very fucking ugly, their only saving grace is make-up Subjective
>Women don't want to look more appealing to men, they want to look more appealing to other women So all women are lesbians? Cool.
>Women are taught they're special snowflakes who can achieve anything This is wrong. Both boys and girls are dissuaded from pursuing interests that are seen as going outside traditional gender roles.
>it is up to the male to impress women, not vice-versa In our rape-culture prevalant society it is expected that men pursue women. If a woman were to pursue a man, she is considered a slut or it is assumed something is wrong with her.
>>26049321 The least attractive woman in town (but not looking like a burn victim) can ask random people in the street if they want sex and she'll get a yes faster than the most attractive guy doing the same thing.
>>26049321 This is true, men are much less selective of sexual partners. This is because men face zero negative social repercussions for being sexually promiscuous. Women are constantly being judged for having sex, and the idea of a woman having sex for pleasure devalues her in the eyes of men. Women are shamed and ridiculed if they treat sex the same way as men, whereas a man can sleep with as many women as he wants and nobody thinks less of him for it, in fact it makes his perceived social value increase. Both men and women buy into this way of thinking because it's been the long-standing social norm for longer than any of us have been alive. Being a man who enjoys sex is natural, but being a woman who enjoys sex is shameful.
>>26047889 this tbqh. clown-for-hire cyborg here. I'm not very confident but I can easily detach my "true" self in social situations and start cracking jokes about the situation at hand. The only problem is try to tone it down or else they will treat you like a source of entertainment and nothing else.
Why would you want a gf? They're boring, they don't have any hobbies, and demand to be entertained. A good friend can do all those, the only thing gf can do is have sex with you and you could just get a prostitute to do that. Women are boring
OK OP, let me give you some advice. This is coming from someone who had a shitty social life in grade school and lost his virginity at 23, but has now been in a relationship for four years.
1) Get some friends. Really the best way to meet women is through your friends. I saw later in the thread you said that all you have is one guy you play XBox with; that shit doesn't count. If you go to school, talk to people in your classes and join clubs; if you have a job, talk to people at your job; if you have neither, get out of NEET mode. You can also look into special interest clubs in your area - book clubs, anime clubs, gaming clubs, whatever you're into. This is a good way to meet people and practice socializing in general.
2) Make sure you have something going on to make you at least somewhat appealing and interesting. A plan for a career that you're pursuing; an education that you're working on; a productive/creative hobby that could go places. You should be able to talk about yourself beyond just 'I like to shitpost on 4chan'.
3) Work on your appearance. If you're overweight, eat healthier and eat less. If you're out of shape, work out. Make sure you are hygienic and dress in OK clothes. Make sure your hair and facial hair are not embarrassing.
4) Don't be afraid to try alternative methods, if for nothing other than practice. Go on dating sites, go to singles events or speed dating shit. Don't expect this to go anywhere, but it's good to get a feeling for what it's like to try to get a woman interested in you. And who knows, it might go somewhere. But for me personally, I had the most success with meeting women through friends.
>>26049665 You have bought in to the /r9k/ bullshit 100% if you believe that. I know plenty of women with interests who are not boring and do not demand to be entertained. My girlfriend is one of them.
>>26049665 My friend, vydia and internet enthusiast but still normalfag and outgoing enough to get a gf, lost her because "he wasn't paying enough attention to her" If you want a gf you must be prepare to leave everything you love to completely dedicate yourself to an ungrateful fleshlight that complains about everything
>>26049516 >This is because men face zero negative social repercussions for being sexually promiscuous. This is because men face all the social stigma of rejection for failing to secure a sexual partner.
>Women are constantly being judged for having sex, and the idea of a woman having sex for pleasure devalues her in the eyes of men. Women are constantly being judged for having extra-martial and non-monogamous sex which they should be judged for as it's proven to lead to instability in future relationships.
Women are shamed and ridiculed if they treat sex the same way as men, whereas a man can sleep with as many women as he wants and nobody thinks less of him for it, in fact it makes his perceived social value increase. Let me tell you something about perceived social value.... it's not the guy fucking who is doing the perception of himself. It's jealous men who understand the effort (or lack there of) required into obtaining a piece of pussy AND surprise surprise the women who aren't fucking that man who heap social value onto his broad, masculine shoulders!
>Both men and women buy into this way of thinking because it's been the long-standing social norm for longer than any of us have been alive. Being a man who enjoys sex is natural, but being a woman who enjoys sex is shameful. Men enjoy women (in the capacity of a significant other) who enjoy sex in long term monogamous relationships with individuals they see themselves having a future with. A female sex addict is the social equivalent of a male masturbation addict because the barrier of entry to becoming either of those things is so fucking low.
>>26049934 >a stranger telling me what I know about women >claiming he isn't lucky for getting a one in a million girl Implying its true, but I'll say it is. You can't speak based on your lucky find, when I have been out there trying for years and all I got are anecdotes on how selfish and arrogant women are. I won't say they're all like that, but there's clearly a pattern when this board, this thread, exists
You go out into the world, you find a girl you like (maybe at work, uni, some coffee place you like, some clerk at some store you buy your shit at, wherever) and you approach her and try to woo her and you get rejected (most probably since by your own admission you're apparently not good at this).
You tough it out. It will sting, probably, and you may feel embarrassed about it but you tough it the fuck out and you're not a pussy about it.
Then you do it again. And you will get rejected again. And then you do it again, and get rejected again. And so on and so forth until you learn what is it that works for you and what is it that don't (so you learn your own strong and weak points; maybe you're funny? that's good, you want to make them laugh, maybe you can strike up a good conversation? that's also good, you want them to pay attention to you, etc.) In this way, you will learn what works and what doesn't, as you either get straight up rejected, or just get ignored, or just fail to make things work out.
Depending on how fast or slow a learner you are, eventually you won't get rejected. And you will probably score with some girl. Maybe you'll get hooked, maybe you won't. There's a chance you get hooked on the wrong girl and it will fuck you up; there's a chance you get hooked on a nicer kind of girl, and it won't fuck you up as much. First relationships rarely work out, so you will probably end up breaking up, but depending on your luck that may be more or less painful.
By now, however, you will know how to hook up with a girl, and it will be easier to find your next girlfriend, and to find a better match, and to manage your risk as you now know more about what you should expect.
And that's how you do it, anon. Guaranteed to work. Nobody who goes through the gauntlet without giving up, fails to get a girlfriend at the end of it. Guaranteed.
>>26048801 >Also how is women being human a "meme"? It's an objective fact.
The sky is blue
>Yes, but how do you get there?
The sky is blue , so it's okay
Why tell us things that aren't relevant? As a human being, guys like us are either miserable, socially awkward, not attractive , not rich, not that tall, or fun by normal people's standards. Do you know human beings also kill people? What makes saying "they're juz ppl" get us to believe girls are easy to talk to?
>>26048198 Just be bold, anon. Get rejected. Tough it out. There's plenty of women out there. PLENTY. And there won't stop to be hot girls around as you grow older either. So you will get plenty of shots at hot girls. Many times it will be girls you're sure are out of your league. If you're bold and not a total sperglord about it, eventually you *will* find one willing to fuck or date you. Heck, you will find more than one.
So don't let the rejections fuck you up. As you get rejected and learn why is it you got rejected you will naturally grow more confident, once you realize rejection really isn't the end of the world (and most of the time, if you get yourself out there, it won't even BE rejection, it will simply be you failing to act at the right moment, or waiting too long to make a move, or being too much of a pussy about your approach and getting friendzoned... THAT'S how most of the girls you're after at the beginning will get away, not straight up rejection).
So just go for it. It sounds simple-minded, but it IS pretty simple-minded. Most girls WANT a boyfriend, or someone to fuck. You just have to be bold enough to take a proper shot at it. And you will only learn to calibrate your shots by fucking up plenty (and realizing that most of the time it was you who fucked up; the only way to learn is to be aware of and owning up to your own mistakes, so just don't be a sperglord about it).
>most men in America, even average men, get laid at least once in a while >starving Africans have ten kids >starving Indians have ten kids >you will never once score pussy How does it feel to be in the absolute bottom tier of desirability?
>>26048801 You know nothing about human relationships, and are only spreading misery with your shit, deluded ideas of how the world and humanity works. Get the fuck out of here, these are desperate people who REALLY don't need the horrible advice you're dishing out.
And you have NO respect for women if you think they're these innocent poor wittle lambs who can't handle the social pressures of the dating world. Fuck they can't. They dish it out like the best of them, and they will *fuck you up* if you take them for victims.
You want to treat a woman as an equal? Then show her some fucking respect, instead of pretending they need special treatment and lowered standards.
I must've read these answers in threads like these a hundred times. 1. No one is entertaining women if you can't stand being in their presence. 2. Confidence means shit if you're ugly. 3. Good luck making friends with women without a cell phone, car and a Facebook and friends of your own. 4. Lowering your standards doesn't do shit, women will find a reason to deny you. 5. Going to the gym doesn't do shit. You'll never be able to show off your body and the moment you do you're perceived as a douchebag. 6. It doesn't matter if you treat women like a puzzle, Goddess, human beans or pure shit, if you don't fall in line for the American rat-race you will be perceived as a loser. 7. Everything is harder if you're not white. 8. Good luck meeting women on their terms when they've been adept at socializing their entire lives 9. Good luck being funny if you have no personality and never did anything. 10. Good luck having confidence when you never achieved anything and most likely don't have a strong father figure
>>26051853 Shit, if it were any year before 1950 we'd all be cannon fodder, men that is, women would be perfectly fine, unless they're black. i guess that's a good trade off for not being able to vote: you get to keep your life.
>>26051718 I don't have a car, or Facebook, or all that many friends, and I've fucked and hooked up with plenty of women throughout my life, and am now steadily dating a 9/10.
And I'm not great looking. I miiiight be a 6/10.
You're just an idiot who thinks cynicism is wisdom. It isn't. As long as you blame and hate the world for your own shortcomings you'll remain a loser. It's up to you to take what you want in life, but you would rather set yourself up for failure and be more content with confirming your prejudices and remaining in loserdom than with actually getting what you want, because you're too proud and afraid of failure to actually try. It's how you can keep alive the lie that you're not actually as big a fucking loser as you obviously are.
>>26051906 I never blamed the world for anything and I never said I hate anything. Cynicism is wisdom, i'm older than you and I've failed more than you, you've succeeded more, therefore you should be positive and I should be negative, that's how things have already played out. I don't make the rules, just play by them.
And yes, I am a loser, do you feel better now? Feel nice and validated? Omg, you won 4chan! You won the internets!! :)
>>26052060 I ride a bike. And my girlfriend has a car, for whenever we may need to travel further.
And I get what you're saying about having friends. But the way to make friends is also getting yourself out there. It might be hard at first, but it gets easier once you learn to take some of the bad with the good. It's why cynicism is useless, it will only sink you further and further into self-pity. You don't need it, and it really doesn't paint a proper picture of the real world.
>>26052102 It helps me mentally. I've been through actual shit and have actual problems, so i can't sit around and pretend to be happy.
You act like I'm the only cynical person on the planet; there are cynical women out there and they get laid and have relationships just fine, this I assure you; which leads me to my next point: being cynical has nothing to do with failure and is a symptom of failure, not the cause.
>>26052195 It's true that a lot of the uglies will want a chad, but they probably won't get one. So they end up with a non-chad. And then maybe you figure yourself out a little more, get a confidence boost from it, and you can bail from that relationship with some shallow girl who wanted a chad and try for someone more worth your while. Point being: no one who doesn't even try will make it. And the longer you wait the fewer chances you'll have left. Still; it's never too late, but start today.
>>26052237 I think I myself am pretty cynical--it's impossible not to get at least a little jaded with age and experience--but these are people asking for advice. And the worst advice you can give them is to give up before even trying.
A lot of women are shit, but a lot of women are not. You don't have to go for the shallow ones, though you will definitely come across plenty of shallow ones. And you have to navigate it, and you risk fucking up, and getting cheated on, and getting in bad breakups, and sticking your dick in crazy, and so on and so forth. there's plenty of shit out there. But that doesn't mean that there's not worthwhile things too.
The anons asking for advice, are anons that want to learn how to find the worthwhile things. And literally the worst advice for doing so is "don't even try".
I've posted my pic here and robots have told me I am the definitive definition of average. I've never had a gf, but I have had girls show interest. I've just fucked it up every time because I am an autistic faggot, and I own that. I don't have any advice for you, because truthfully I have no idea what I have done to attract any of the girls that I have. Not that I even attract that many in the first place. I just wanted to pop in and tell you my experience, which basically means yes, it is possible. Just not an ordinary thing and there doesn't appear to be any common denominator in how to do it. It just kind of happens.
Stop going to r9k, these guys will only serve as a conduit to bring you down.
Limit the amount of porn you watch to once a week.
Start lifting weights if you arent already.
Read some books on picking up women. Mystery method is a good resource. Look up RSDTyler on youtube.
Start cold approaching women in different settings. Down town, the mall, grocery stores, night clubs.
Stop basing your value as a man in your ability to get chicks. They do not decide your worth as a person, you do, and when you finally stop treating women like vaginas on pedestals, and stop giving a fuck about rejection and what other people think of you, they will naturally gravitate towards you.
Also, if a women puts up barriers after showing a little bit of interest in you, be persistent. Shes into you, shes just pulling the same shit every other woman does. Just play along with it because all shes doing is delaying the inevitable moment to where you finally bed her, grab her by the legs, spread em as far apart as you can, and pound her pussy.
>>26052417 Radfem poster probably finally got a trip. There was a chubby girl from NI who posted here too but I'm not sure if she still does. There's the ~40 single mother who doesn't want her kid to become a robot. There's metric and fujo. There's a girl who posts here 12 hours a day "trolling" because she hates robots (she could be any of the above minus mom haven't locked her in). And a possible extra radfem scared and pissy with robots trying to stop the next supreme gentleman (also could be anyone above minus the mom).
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