>transition, they said.
>become the little girl, they said
>what could possibly go wrong...?
That's why I refuse to do so.
I'm aware of my bone/facial structure, I would look fucking terrible.
Now I'm sad, thanks OP.
I would transition if I could see what I'd look like by the end of it.
I'm not playing the risky game of "oh you might actually just look like an abomination".
>tfw you realize all macho tough guys are secretly girls on the inside
I bet his seargent walked in on him practicing his girl voice while reading MLP comics and felt too awkward to make fun of him for it.
now tell us your fucking story
It's not entertaining in the least, but I'll post for the quints.
>drinking by myself
>go on OKC to fuck chicks (inb4 normie/chad/etc.)
>see this person
>don't read profile
>chat them up, flirt a little
>learn they were in the army like me
>ask for MOS
>they say 18D
>think "that's SF... there's no women in SF..."
>nope out of there
I get so fucki g mad whenni see shit like that that 10/10 beard genetics and a fucking good male genetics going to waste
>tfw 19 and can count the hairs on my chin look like a 11 year old fml
And then if you kill yourself you won't be remembered as a man. You'll be remembered as that alright guy who tried to become a woman and if a pic of you gets posted you'll leave an even worse impression on people.
That person killed people in Afghanistan and then gave up its reproductive ability immediately after. That's some death-worshipper shit. The gun is good, the penis is evil. Creepy
kind of funny how they all end up like this
stop posting this shit
I will never pass, I will never be pretty
I just have to live my life as a subby feminine male that no woman will ever love
fucking disgusting trannies and their degenerate piercings and tattoos
>letting 4chan dictate your life choices if it's not an objectively good thing.
>falling for the tranny meme.
Kek,I know this is a tranny hate thread but I make fun of those people I come across.
Ripped chisel jaw Chad transitions and still looks qt.
JUST FUCKING END IT
This guys whole Twitter is a goldmine.
Stop posting these pics.
Every day I have to remind myself that transitioning is a horrible awful idea that ends in failure for the vast majority of people. Posting these success stories is only convincing more people to fuck their shit up.
Don't transition. You're going to end up like a randomly generated face in a Bethesda game.
i agree, the chance of you looking good after is very slim
fuck you for making it look like such a good idea when you'll end up being a TES:Oblivion character
>kind of funny how they all end up like this
I just wish they would be everyday people and not this:
>"Look at meee :3 I'm so cute!"
It reminds me of all these girls I know who are:
>"I'm so quirky, look at me! I'm totes a geek :3"
Piercings, tattoos, too much make up don't make you an individual. You are conforming to just another thing.
I would have no problem with their mutilation if they just went about living their life the way they want it. But that is the thing, isn't it? They aren't happy. And they have to keep reminding us of how they feel.
It isn't. It is pity. I lament the fate of these people.
Why are suicide rates so high? Because no matter how far they go with transition, they have to keep reassuring themselves that they are happy. They end up as incredibly narcisstic people who need constant reassurance for their decision.
As a group of people, they would be respected much more if they were just everyday people and not this group of creatures.
Does this shit creep anyone out? The next bro you see at a bar or party could secretly be a bitch on the inside. They walk among us. They're like undercover woman posing as men. Or they're insane. How many of them you think had weird bitch-like behaviors and mannerism before transitioning? Is there internal monologue in a female voice the whole time? Isn't it weird how most of them are straight guys before transitioning into women? Wouldn't they come out as gay first? That would make more sense, to take it one step at a time.
I can never see them as truly being women. I think they should introduce themselves as trannies. If you can't join in on a conversation with real females about how embarrassing it was to get your first period in the middle of history class then you're never gonna truly relate to actual women.
I cringe'd too hard. Something with the physical appearance of a woman still acts completely like a dude. Not even the most masculine women I know act like this. Just yuck
>i know i was girl because i watched le girl show and did girlie things XD
NO, you just liked feminine things. Just because what society says is feminine doesn't make you a woman, dumbass.
I find it rather ironic how you are slowly coming to understand the mindset that originated the whole CIS-gendered stuff to begin with. SJWs twisted it, but there was some original substance to it.
>tfw still not in fulltime girlmode even though I've been on hrt for a year
I-I'll have an inspiring transition timeline some day
>I've been in a committed monogamous lesbian relationship for over a year.
So he gets to be the little girl but still gets to put his dick in Stacey too.
Some people have all the luck.
>overcompensating manlet army fag
>he thinks he is such a alpha badass
>turns out to be a trap faggit
>what could possibly go wrong...?
why do people do this?
literally the worst form a human can take
Trannies are so pathethic. Pic-related. A man with a wig thinks he is a girl. kek
>Day 15- This is part of the healing, not an infection
Fucking degenerate. Absolutely disgusting.
Hahahaha have fun with your high pitched voice and being 5'7 and pear-shaped as a "man". Yeah, being male is really great and easy! You're gonna love every second of it! You'll get lots of hot chicks and they'll love your prosthetic "penis" and won't ask any questions at all about why it looks weird and why you're fondling and squeezing your balls for 3 minutes every time you get an erection. Make sure to never go camping in the woods for more than a few weeks; after all, you'll need to always have your precious hormones with you to retain masculinity! That's not limiting at all...
Is there any women that are trans, besides chaz bono and cat jenner? It seems like its only guys who are trans
but you already look like a girl you faggot
>have a perfectly passing face and voice
> 1.The "vagina" is not self lubricating
> 4. Need to dilate for life to keep vagina open (less often after 1st year, unless you are not having sexual intercourse then now regularly)
You do realize that if you were actually a man trapped in a woman's body you would think that's awesome and be a femme lipstick lesbian and a ruthless gold digger. No actual man would decide to have a dick that has no sensation in it. That's retarded.
I'm orignal with my comments, I swear.
You can get T pellets put in. They last 3 months iirc. The voice thing is a myth. I don't give a shit about my height, and my hips weren't wide to begin with.
I don't care about getting chicks. I'm not a social/sexual person. The prosthetic is just for pissing and having a bulge in my pants.
>what is dysphoria
From a distance, yes.
It might just be the facial expression.
Try something a bit more neutral.
Ask any man what he'd do if he was a chick, you'll get answers like "be a slut", "be a lesbian", "be hot", or "kill myself". No guy would ever answer "be a ftm transexual so I could be a man again"
this is the dumbest shit i have ever read in my life
I am a 3/10 gril. Pre-hormones I still had a boyish face and voice, while not even being cute at it. I get more positive attention now; ugly girls tend to transition into decent looking guys, unlike the reverse for mtfs. This is the easier path for me.
I don't like girls and I could never be femme with my facial structure.
You're in the club and this trans guy slaps your girl's ass, what do you do?
Killing people isn't badass if you're part of a well equipped team of dudes with the latest technology and air support backing you up and you're fighting against a bunch of 3rd world sand niggers who only have AKs. The casualty rate for US armed forces in the Middle East is nothing compared to Vietnam or Korea.
Beards are shit, you fucking manlet. they only work if you're big. (as in, fit) of course, you've never had one, so you wouldn't understand. it's not like its helped me.
I'm planning on having surgery in the future to get rid of my fucking beard
There is literally nothing more disgusting than FtM
>tfw I will never pass
>if I ever went on hormones id just look gross
>I'll never get to be a qt tomboy girl and my gf will never feel sexually satisfied with my manly body
>tfw afraid your gf will cuck you with a girl
Dude you clearly dont pass, no offense. Did you even think anyone on /r9k/ would say that you did?
A mental illness. You chose to exacarbate the symptoms instead of treating the root cause.
Now you get to live with the results, for a while you think you are happy with it, as long as this idea gets continuously reinforced and you don't have time to question it.
But a time will come when your life slows down a bit, someone dear to you finally speaks out or you just plain look at the mirror. At that moment you realize your mistake, probably off yourself, and become another statistic instead of a special little snowflake.
Did you miss the FtMs in this thread?
>le gender and sexuality are same thing XD XD!!11!
Being transgender or not being transgender are completely separate from whether you want to bonk girls or boys or neither.
Keep telling yourself that, bub
All these fucking disgusting animals need be shot in the fucking mouth
>instead of treating the root cause.
And the root cause is neurological miswirings that cannot be correct via surgery or medicine, so doctors have no choice but to alter the body.
death to all degenerates
send them to death camps
If you have depression, medication and surgery are not primary options.
The dirty secret about transsexuals is that it is politically unacceptable to tell trannies that they need behavioral therapy.
If dysphoric folks got behavior therapy to either become comfortable in their bodies or to dismiss their wierd thoughts, then none of this would be an issue.
Keep telling yourself otherwise.
You know just as well as I do that "gender" is completely ridiculous. That no unbiased study has ever been done on the subject. That the man who got homosexuality of the list of mental illnesses regrets his campaigning and that operations only speed up suicide while therapy actually helps. In fact you probably think men like me are "on the wrong side of history" while wholly forgetting you and your tiny little band of mentally ill are part of a ~5 year old movement riding a wave of media hysteria and yet already claiming to have a monopoly on all wisdom.
The more you put your position into persepctive, the more laughable it gets.
>If dysphoric folks got behavior therapy to either become comfortable in their bodies or to dismiss their wierd thoughts, then none of this would be an issue.
They actually tried that for about 70 years before realizing it doesn't work and is a waste of time. It took decades for the psychiatric community to switch from trying to make transsexuals more comfortable in their original body to deciding to help them make their body more comfortable for their mind. The mind is orders of magnitude harder to change than the body.
I know that you only learned about transsexuals in the last few years thanks to the internet, but this problem has actually been around as long as humanity has. Do your research.
wait wait, how this... this.. this monster grow a beard if she was born female but I cant???
>At that moment you realize your mistake
Already have desu, and I will until I can get my nano dick. Meawhile I'll chase away the feelings with MMORPGs and anime.
>tfw you will never be the little boy
>tried it for 70 years
Dude, CBT has only even been a thing for 40 years.
Incidentally, that's about how long sex reassignment surgery as we use it now has been resorted to in the US.
They have never tried it.
I had 32D and a decent ass. Makeup just made me look even more like a hon.I was basically Jamal, but white, and with a vagina and tits.
Is it really that hard to believe women can be absolutely ugly?
He didn't have a very masculine face to begin with, hence the beard. Yes, you will lose muscle mass on HRT, but using this picture to prove ''lol it doesnt matter how manly u r b4 whoremoans'' is retarded.
Rye Silverman is my favorite tranny. She's such a fashionista.
>The mind is orders of magnitude harder to change than the body.
You do know that something like ~80% of MtF transsexuals cannot achieve orgasm after they get their dick chopped off, right?
The medical "consensus" on the issue is that the only form of treatment available is HRT and genital mutilation.
It's beyond me why trannies have the only mental illness where the best course of treatment is encouraging the delusions of the patient
No, there's plenty of horrific looking females. What people are saying is that ugly women can still get sex at will simply by being accepting of non-Chad penis. There is ALWAYS some thirsty beta who is willing to fuck a 1/10 girl as long as she gives the OK.
Ever since I was 8 years old until about 18, I wanted to be a girl more than anything. I downloaded voice changing software, made hundreds of friends who believed me, a fake facebook page and basically lived as a girl online for 10 years. Boyfriends and all.
I got my first girlfriend when I was 18 and it cured of the mental illness over the course of the years we dated. I can't tell you how happy I am that I didn't deform my body because of temporary feelings. People with the same dysmorphia that I had need to wait it out and not do drastic shit like take hormones and become a literal freak. I know I'd have killed myself if I did and many others have.
There isn't a consensus at all, though. Which is why the largest centers for sex reassignment have since closed their doors and disavowed the practice.
It's literally the psychologyfags and social scientists pushing an agenda.
Actually the root cause is PTSD of a sort that causes you to regress to an earlier stage in life that made you feel happy. You subconsciously cling to this happiness until you realize you can't be happy with a stale memory.
>Which is why the largest centers for sex reassignment have since closed their doors and disavowed the practice.
>muh johns hopkins
That was literally one guy, a disgraced psychiatrist that the rest of the medical community thinks is a quack now because they proved that he was intentionally misinterpreting scientific data in a deceptive way because of a religious bias. Plus he literally broke the law to keep serial child molestors out of jail.
>McHugh, after all, is the man whose report to the court in one case stated that a defendant's harassing phone calls were not obscene -- including the call that detailed a fantasy of a 4-year-old sex slave locked in a dog cage and fed human waste. At least eight men have been convicted of sexually abusing Maryland children while under treatment at the "sex disorders" clinic McHugh runs at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine -- abuse the doctors did not report, citing client confidentiality. When Maryland law was changed to require that doctors report child molestation, the clinic fought it and advised patients on how to get around the law
>mfw im a skinnyfat 5'7" manlet who can only grow stray pubes on my face
>mfw these high test men want to be women
>mfw i just want to be a man
Thanks for posting this.
I was kinda on a down slope today but seeing the fact that people like this bother to exist just shot my confidence through the roof.
>they proved that he was intentionally misinterpreting scientific data in a deceptive way because of a religious bias
Yes and I'm sure the types pushing trannyism are entirely unbiased as well
>>McHugh, after all, is the man whose report to the court in one case stated that a defendant's harassing phone calls were not obscene -- including the call that detailed a fantasy of a 4-year-old sex slave locked in a dog cage and fed human waste.
How is this relevant? Alfred Kinsey collaborated with a pedophile that was still abusing children, but no-one touches that (or the fact that Kinsey's studies were bullshit, with most of his "respectable red-blooded American male subjects" actually being male prostitutes and imprisoned criminals)
>How is this relevant?
Because he's literally on the Catholic Church's payroll and did whatever they told him to lol
>this is the best "scientist" anti-trans people can dig up to support their claims
Yes, please tell us more about how
are equally perfect and as fully functional as female genitalia - and surely a much better solution to a tranny's mental problems than some CBT combined with anti-psychotics
>fully functional as female genitalia
>> 1.The "vagina" is not self lubricating
>> 4. Need to dilate for life to keep vagina open (less often after 1st year, unless you are not having sexual intercourse then now regularly)
>when it's healing
Except they never quite heal, do they anon?
The replacement "vagina" is basically just a gash in the crotch prevented from healing
> 4. Need to dilate for life to keep vagina open (less often after 1st year, unless you are not having sexual intercourse then now regularly)
>The replacement "vagina" is basically just a gash in the crotch prevented from healing
Uh, nope. That's a serious misunderstanding of what the surgery does. You have to dilate to keep surrounding muscles from contracting to the point that further insertion is difficult or impossible. It's not a wound that can heal over.
Also not all trans women want surgery.
>You have to dilate to keep surrounding muscles from contracting to the point that further insertion is difficult or impossible
Yes, every girl growing up has that awkward-but-necessary conversation about keeping their vagina dilated for life
I don't understand your point, you were still factually incorrect.
And after a year it only needs to be dilated approximately once a week, which isn't much of a hassle especially if you're sexually active.
Really though I just don't understand what you're trying to say here. We should ban surgeries that gross you out? What kind of logic is that even
>We should ban surgeries that gross you out? What kind of logic is that even
I'm just saying that maybe there are other options for trannies that don't involve you mutilating yourselves.
And these options should be explored before the medical industry declares "mission accomplished"
>I just have to live my life as a subby feminine male that no woman will ever love
Aww, that's not true, anon... I'd love you just the way you are, don't give up hope.
jk, you're fucked to be honest, m8.
>I'm just saying that maybe there are other options for trannies that don't involve you mutilating yourselves.
>not all trans women want surgery
So that option already exists, you can do HRT and transition without getting SRS if you don't want it.
You're triggering me you tranny ass licking fuckwit.
>Still writes like an army dude.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little CIS? I'll have you know I transitioned top of my clique on Tumblr, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on female toilets, and I have over 300 confirmed sitting down pees. I am trained in waxing legs and I'm the top sissy in the entire fictionmania community. You are nothing to me but just another penis. I will wipe your the cum out of my hair with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this gloryhole, enter my fucking boipussy.
>tfw manly looking girl and some of these fags end up looking girlier than me
should I get a prescription for estrogen or what, it's not fair that they can get shit to help them look like a woman but I can't
minoxidil is the active ingredient in rogaine, it's had mixed results (scaredy cats warn against using it at all)
all you need to figure if you wanna do it.
this guy has a ton of pictures
If I remember right, she said they joined the military and were like a navy seal and basically psychotic from the Testosterone and gender dysphoria. They used to do point and run into shit and the other margins said she was suicidallly violent in how theyd run into rooms clearing shit.
A lot of mtfs go this route and become super hyper masculine in an attempt to crush the dysphoria myself included.
I guess that's what Rich meant by "leaving humanity behind".
Walmart sells it, you don't need a fucking derpatologist for it. 3 60g cans are around $30. That's the good 5% aerosol foam shit too. You can shop around and get half strength not so foamy for even cheaper online.
other options exist yeah, but people who elect to do this found those options insufficient. not the person you're arguing with but most surgery that isn't laparoscopic is going to look pretty gross when it's healing.
>be med student
>rotate with some gynecologic surgeons, a few who specialize in gender reassignment
>all of them have serious disdain for their patients.
Some of the things i heard in the OR were hilarious. Also all the other gyn surgeons had disrespect for their colleagues that were even doing the procedures.
No, I am also suffering from rapid hair loss and have some white shit on my scalp thats not even dandruff but something like dermatitis.
I need to see a dermatologist anyway
I want to know her expert opinion about using minoxidil on ones face anon
I can't speak for trans clients specifically, but every OR I've been to say stupid shit and joke around about most clients, that's just the nature of the beast when someone is put under in my experience. Endo is probably the funniest
She'll just say there isn't any research on it for that and that it's an off label use. Knock yourself out as long as you don't have hypotension. It was developed originally to be an antihypertensive. If you look at the journals you'll see it's only tested on the vertex. Plenty of men seem to get by alright using it on their male pattern baldness bit above their forehead though despite not being it's officially intended use.
But fuck derms, you might as well ask her while you're there for the other shit and get your money's worth.
I'm just butthurt that I have fucked up bacne and no money to see a derm. I would try accutane but just a week on turinabol gave me drug induced cholestasis(self diagnosed lol) so I doubt I could handle accutane. I've been considering buying some glycolic or lactic acid and DIYing acid peels on my back. $300 at the derm or $15 at home. How hard can it be really? Splash some acid on and then cry until you're ready to wash it off and then wear loose clothing until your skin melts off.
>did 4scoopes really go tranny?
No, but Matt Kroc did.
I love the sense of humor medical bros have. I work psych as a murse and have seen some srsly funny stuff. The pay is kind of shitty but aside from charting and the occasional shot it's really about as easy as nursing gets. It definitely beats the clusterfuck that is medsurg or ER.
I once had a dementia patient, I had previously said something about them being pants on head retarded. They were always a trouble maker, so I was curious about why the night was so nice. On rounds I discovered pt in the bathroom very confused and trying to put on a shirt for who knows how long. The reason for the difficulty is that it was pants, literally pants on head retarded.
I love my little cuckoo birds though. I never use that term out loud but a patient once made a reference about me caring for my birds which kind of weirded me out. I know for a fact I never verbalized the idea. Also the full moon is real, I don't know about the q-word but I sure as fuck am not about to test it.
how does it feel to not have a dick and to have a hole instead? that you can never penetrate someone with your body, unless it is some joke of an act with your fingers? this is my fetish.
Thanks, but I'll pass. I don't even have a dominant personality.
It feels horrible. It feels like I'll never accomplish "my" purpose in life. I feel very jealous of men and resent them because of this.
>i'll rail some chick for you and maybe you'll feel a phantom sensation. i wasn't planning on it, but it's for you.
Thanks, I guess.
>implying you wouldn't
>No, I don't talk to my family. And my reasoning is that I have told people I'm trans on the first date and subsequently been assaulted. He punched me hard enough to knock me down and split my cheek open and I still have the scars to prove it. There IS NO SAFE TIME TO DISCLOSE. I survived because I'm a former special forces operator and I beat his fucking ass. Other trans women don't have my training or experience, and they get murdered.
>Pretend to be a girl on the internet
Life is good, this is all I need. I am so kawii desuuuuu uguuuuuuuu
sorry phone auto correct.
She was a spec ops.
She was the point person.
AKA she went in first and shot other fucking people and was first to get shot, exploded, etc.
The other marines said that she was fucking insane even by spec ops standards for other people who ran point.
She said she was extremely suicidal and wanted to do so she had no fear about charging into kill people.
>reached LEROY JENKINS suicidal psychopath status
>still cant surpress gender dysphoria
>impossible to relieve it no matter how hardcore manly you become
>just transition faggot
>I told this guy I was dating that I had a dick the whole time
>he punched me so hard I fell on my ass
>don't worry I totally beat his ass cause I'm an operator
Sounds like a lie. He probably got his ass beat and lied about it.
Holy shit it actually looks like an Argonian.
Couldn't agree more Anon, may you ride into Vahalla chrome and shiny.
I still don't believe it's real. He's just over-thinking it. These guys go from being hyper-masculine to hyper-feminine because they have overly competitive unchill personality types. Like, if you met a guy who used to be super fat and then he went on a crazy diet and was super skinny after. You'd think he was a weirdo. Just be inbetween and he chill with that. Not everything is a contest of extremes.
THIS IS NOW A MEDIEVAL ARMOUR PORN THREAD!
YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEEING LADYBOY LOVERS? MAYBE SHE CAN HELP YOU OUT BY CUTTING YOUR COCK OFF?
Daily Reminder that transitioning is a Jewish invention.
Only 20% of people that transition fully pass. Most "transgender" people aren't really trans and minority obviously had an hormone imbalance before they were born including intersex people.
>Sex is icky. I've only had one guy interested in me and he constantly texted me pictures of cute little boys he saw on the street. He was a 5'7 beta spic.
You're the dumbest moron I've ever encountered on this site and I've been here since 07.
Think about how pathetic that 5'7 spic is, now think about how much more pathetic you'll be at 5'4, pretending to be a man. Even if you were born a man, no one will take you seriously at 5'4, in fact, most men will tell you to become a trap anyways.
I want to say you're seriously delusional but you identify as trans so that's a given. You should be locked up in an insane asylum before you hurt yourself or others.
Man this thread is disgusting, it just confirms my hate for all mentally deranged trannies, why would you as a male, ever want to be a fucking female? Being a male is awesome and you should embrace your gift, don't squander it to be some weak irrational emotional stupid animal who can only get by in society by leeching off the men.
>to be some weak irrational emotional stupid animal
jus b yrself lmao
There may be problems with growing hair where you can't grow it though. Like if you got a wispy little faggot beard, then anything that causes an increase in DHT will thicken that shit up big time, but it may not casue hair to sprout in certain part no matter what. Like absolutely no hair grow in that little square beneath my lip no matter what.
Its actually quite the opposite.
You have all this tremendous pain being in the wrong body.
So you transition.
Transitioning causes all kinds of problems.
However some of the pain is removed and if youre lucky, all of the pain is removed and you just live a normal life.
this. I cant stand the knuckle dragging "hurr y not try psychotherapy?" Do you really think that you are so much cleverer than the entire psychological community to have been the first person to think of doing this? whether you agree with sex reassignment or not it has been proven for years to be the most expedient solution. Literally the only argument against it is that other people dont like it.
>Other men always commenting on how they wish they were as big as me
>I fucking hate it, always wanted to be slim and small
Why does /r9k/ fail to understand that not everyone likes the same thing?
Order them from alldaychemist, or whatever onljne pharmacy is nearest you. Research doseages, be sure you have gender dysphoria, dont do it for meme trap or femboy shit