I really hate when people say this. I dare you tell people who live in shit conditions like in ISIS territory where the women were raped and the men killed, or in Africa where water is so precious, and the diseases they have and whatever, that god is looking out for them. There is no god, and if there is one he doesn't care about us at all. I'm not saying he should care I'm just saying we shouldn't pretend that he does.
>>26037239 I'm too forgiving to get mad at godfags and too experienced arguing with godfags to bother arguing with godfags anymore, as everything you have to argue with boils down to "but muh faith". Either keep your imaginary friend for yourself, or grow up. It's not that I'm not interested in discussing theism; the problem is that theists aren't really interested in discussing theism, as they are unwilling to keep separate their faith from their arguments. >>26038173 Also this. What would your God think of you if he sees you browsing 4chan?
>>26039574 >literally the only righteous religion on this planet. more like self righteousness. >Has done most good for humanity. On and off lot of war started because of the Catholic church but the biggest troublemaker is obviously Islam. >Least violent. Check out the inquisition, America ,and the dark ages. >Most charitable not really lot of christian are hypocrite self entitled prick. >Best culture Opinion =/= Fact.
>>26039574 >literally the only righteous religion on the planet Priests molest children that are just trying to worship their "god" and priest says it how jesus shows his love >unarguably has done the most good for humanity Crusades and forced Indians to convert and if they didn't were killed or worked to death, the church forces their ideals on others and claim you go to hell if you don't believe. >least violent The Crusades were pretty fucking violent >most charitable Force everyone who attends a service to pay a tithe
>>26040033 But anon, I thought God has a plan for everyone and he helps everyone in their time of need? If so why is his plan for those kids to molested by his own preachers? Also why do 5 year Olds get raped and murdered or kept as sex slaves? Is that God's plan for them? And if not, why doesn't he save them with a miracle, if he loves all his children? Doesn't sound like a very just God anon.
>>26040099 >says god why should i trust what he said why should i follow some 2000 years old story about your sky sugar daddy ok answer me this:where is heaven , i know God is supposed to be omnipresent so i won't bother
>>26040100 Again, those are all the faults and actions of man.
God has bestowed upon us free will, and with that, we are given the ability of doing whatever we want. He has already set rules and standards for us to live by and doesn't make us abide by them. However, He has stated very clearly the consequences of going against the set guidelines for living with your fellow man. Basically, you can have your fun but eventually you're going to pay the price.
>>26040197 half serous >>26040197 so what god should i have faith in ? there is tens of religions that claim to be the only true one all have similar stories of creation and miracles all have messengers and prophets ; it's the same circle jerking "serve me and do what i say or be damned , i love ya btw :)" also i think you're a Christfag so why don't you convert to islam ? it's the same God and it is the continuation of christianity
I'm not religious but I do enjoy the religion related memes like the Fuck Off Jesus one or the new Christ-Chan. So in some ways religion does bring joy to my life for which I am grateful. I also respect some of the virtues religion tries to inspire in people like kindness and generosity but I can't find myself believing in any religion in a literal sense.
>>26039460 Trump started by borrowing a million dollars from his grandpa and has been bankrupt several times. If he had put that million dollars in a mutual fund, he'd be a lot richer today. So yeah, Trump is unremarkable.
Zuckerjew caught a big break. His social network just happened to be the one among dozens that caught on and everyone uses.
Your examples have NOTHING to do with merit or hard work.
>>26040315 That shows how worthy God seemed to think those two were.
I mean, seriously, look at the influence they've had and are currently having on this world. They're both heavily influential outside of their financial success. I believe God lead them on a path to change the world for the greater good.
>>26040253 I believe because it's the only thing that makes sense in this world.
I don't mind God, man, but how stupid are the people who actually get inspired by these dumb motivational posters and banal platitudes? They're the type of people who ignore any flaws within themselves and are much happier as a result.
Then God is a fucking asshole. Wanting to see people suffer is sick. Why would you worship someone who is putting people through suffering instead of helping them. BTW any person with any amount of intelligence has at this point realized that at least God doesn't care about anyone.
>>26041283 I'm with you OP. My life was shit for so long, and now I've capitalized on a literally God given opportunity. I honestly googled the other day "why do I feel so happy?" b/c it's just a strange feeling to be content with life. I know God has set me on a path towards love and happiness. Good vibes bruhs, deus vult.
If you're christian or curious about the faith, I suggest reading/watching Quo Vadis. It's seriously great.
>>26037332 It's like saying things happen because you make them happen. See? You can just remove God and nothing changes.
Also why would God help a paedophile/massmurderer if "they help themselves". You should realize that God does not exist/ doesn't give a fuck about us. So pls do us all a favor and stop making these threads.
>>26037239 During a test you worked on the subject before, during a test you know why you're here, during a test you know how much time you have left, during a test, you know which exercise gives you how much points on the final mark so you can prioritize...
During most tests all the student have the same sheet, the same exercise... the same test.
>>26042458 MUH FEELINGS WHY DOESNT THIS PERFECT BEING FOLLOW ------------------MY---------------- FUCKING FEELINGS REEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM THE GREATEST THING EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UR FUCKING STUPID IF YOU DISAGREE WIT HMY FEEEEEELINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>MUH FEELINGS WHY DOESNT THIS PERFECT BEING FOLLOW ------------------MY---------------- FUCKING FEELINGS REEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM THE GREATEST THING EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UR FUCKING STUPID IF YOU DISAGREE WIT HMY FEEEEEELINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The same argument could apply to someone being tortured by a sadist.
He could torture his victim and as the victim cried, he could simply say, "Why should I care about your feelings? I'm bigger than you".
>>26042604 It's not about life being hard its about God being an asshole. I'm okay with him saying I don't care but if he cares he is a fucking sadist and that is what you are claiming.( ignore his all powerfulness etc.)
Gnosticism is so much less incoherent than mainstream Christianity.
Mainstream Christianity is like
>We worship one God who does not change!
>Except he's actually three persons in one God, and two thousand years ago he came to earth in human form and said all his old laws are now bogus for some reason, and he added a bunch of stuff that wasn't in the old law at all and took a bunch of stuff out. But that's not changing or anything...really!
At least Gnostics can admit that Jesus is literally NOTHING like Jehovah.
>>26042593 So you actually have no idea what you are talking about. If you had an answer to this paradox you could have BTFO half of the people in this thread but you didn't. Let me guess you just don't have an answer but somehow you will still delude yourself.
In the beginning, there's the Monad. The Monad generates other consciousnesses known as Aeons. These emanations get further and further from the heavenly Pleroma where the Monad dwells. Eventually an Aeon - Pistis Sophia - attempts to create a being of her own. She inadvertently creates the Demiurge by this act. The Demiurge and his Archons are animated by the same "divine spark" as the Aeons, but are either unaware of or hostile to the heavenly regions above them. The Demiurge creates the material universe and with his Archons attempts to keep souls trapped within it. Different sects have different explanations for why they do this, but the Archontics claimed that it was because the soul "is the food of the Archons ... without which they cannot live, because she is of the dew from above and gives them strength".
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