>>26031719 If you aim to be genuinely great at almost anything, especially the arts, 22 is way, way too late. If you don't train from childhood, or until 16 or so, you stand no chance. The "put time into it and it'll work out" thing is ridiculous.
>>26031771 >>26031807 I would say it depends on the art. The likelihood that you will ever be a concert violinist or pianist or any musician is low, though yould definitely find commercial and critical success as some musicians who started at 30
The amount of writers/actors/directors that started out at some other job before moving onto literature or film or television is astounding though. You definitely don't need to have everything figured out by 22 unless you're trying ot be a professional athlete
>>26031807 Cinema is another topic. It's an amalgamation of tons of references, aside from a lot of ephemeral things. I should have been more specific, sorry. Sculpture, painting, draftsmanship, music, mathematics, and writing (in some forms) require certain processes to have happened during childhood in order to reach an outlier level. In addition, your IQ is set in stone as soon as you hit 16, roughly speaking. For me, if you can't hit that level of skill, it's not worth participating at all. It's like people think that being Picasso vs. having above average draftsmanship is just a linear cold difference in skill. Those two people are so different, It's more like being different species. It changes your entire neurological makeup.
>>26031916 Wrong way to look at something. If you can create something what does it matter if it impacts 10 people or 10,000? It's obviously great to reach a wider audience but making something that can resonate to someone is all you should aim for. Make art for yourself and somebody will appreciate it, even if it's few.
It seems like you view art more as a means of gaining notoriety rather than creating something that can inspire, entertain, shock, impress or any other of the thousands of things art can do. I'd say focus on what you want to say and try and implement that into art without worrying about greatness.
Your current outlook seems to be that life ends at 22. Start with that and try and create something based on that. See what comes from it.
>>26031971 That's not what Painting is, to me. Painting is a Waltz with your thoughts. I dislike the idea of communicating thought to others, using this or that as a filter. It's not meaningful to me. I hate it because i think thought and context in relation to the self, is so absurdly complicated, you never communicate a semblance of a complicated thought structure, in whatever way you try. The whole Duchamp "It's what it appears to to others, in the end" thing i really dislike.
>>26032071 You don't understand. Now it's shit. You have to have been painting as a child. You have to have high IQ, Proper conditioning, etc etc. A million things. You can't Waltz if your legs are broken and you've never heard of Waltz. You can try to, but what you'll come up with is a parody.
Who cares? Why do you have to be the best? My message before was it just needs to be able to offer someone something. Parody is what some people are looking for. Why not work to your strengths instead of pining for the unattainable?
>>26032099 I just want to say that high IQ matters jackshit in the art world. Some of the finest painters in existence were fucking dull in their personal lives and had no particular insight. Caravaggio was a fucking drunk who did nothing in his spare time but get into barfights, he was still probably the most forceful and influential painter of his time.
>>26032289 YOU DON'T NEED A GUN! GET SOME HELIUM, OR JUMP OFF A BRIDGE, OR JUMP IN FRONT OF A TRUCK, OR HANG YOURSELF, OR GET A BB GUN AND HAVE A COP SHOOT YOU PRISONERS FIND A WAY TO KILL THEMSELVES WITH FUCKING BREADCRUMBS AND YOU CAN'T FIND A SINGLE WAY TO END YOUR PATHETIC USELESS EXISTENCE
>>26032348 HOLY SHIT YOU'RE SUCH A PATHETIC PIECE OF SHIT YOU'RE GOING TO BE JUST AS COWARDLY NOW AS WHEN YOU GET A GUN SO WHY FUCKING WAIT, KILL YOURSELF GOUGE YOUR FUCKING EYES OUT YOU MISERABLE SACK OF SHIT
>not being content with not wanting anything >not spending all day every day for the rest of your life making money at an easy job, chilling with your manchild bros, and getting high
what the fuck is the point of have "passions" or "dreams"? you're going to work your ass off to produce some shitty creation that will be completely forgotten within a small span of time, when you could be working just enough to get by and chilling. just indulge in your vices until you die, it's the only real way to live.
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