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>son is uncircumcised
>always have to keep an eye on the doctor at every visit because they always try to prematurely retract the foreskin for 'sanitary reasons'
>doctors keep trying convince me to get son a circumcision to prevent any problems

why are American doctors so obsessed with destroying foreskins?
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>>25958718

>doctors keep trying convince me to get son a circumcision to prevent any problems

yup. they are trying to rob your son.
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>>25958718
The med-school jews taught them this it's not their fault OP
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>>25958718
Why the fuck do you have a kid, are you serious?

gtfo normie oldfag
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>>25958718
Never let them do it. I have a grudge against my parents...
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>>25958718
>always try to prematurely retract the foreskin for 'sanitary reasons'
Sounds like a paedophile OP. You should probably report him.
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>>25958767

It's the one thing my parents did wrong by me. I've let them know that they did wrong. Since they've actually been great on everything else and it's sadly normal here, it makes it interesting to call them out on it (and I don't harp on it too much due to the above), but they know how I feel.

Dad has literally tried, more than once, the "oh but it would get dirty/nasty" argument, and I've shut him down: what, you don't know how to fuckin wash yourself? What the fuck kind of an argument is that?"

A few years ago, at my request, we went into the family safe, and I took possession of my birth certificate. While rummaging, I came across an extra delivery slip, itemized. On item stood out to me. "birth: x. nurse attendant: x," similar. There it was.

"Circumcision: $58.25."

The line-item cost of the irreversible mutilation of the most important thing in the universe, my dick, at the hands of my idiot father and the idiot kike-protestant country that I had the misfortune to be born in just once, one life never ever to be lived again, had a cost of fifty-eight dollars and twenty-five cents.

I did not let the moment pass. I softened the above. As I've said, they always did right by me everywhere else, and unfailing. Except the mutilation thing. "So for want of fifty-eight dollars and twenty-five cents, I could have been a complete person, but you had to be a stupid idiot about it. OH WELL."

Weaker men would have punched dad in the throat.
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They sell the foreskins on black market to witch doctors who make potions that keep non jews submissive. They then buy the potions and pour it into our drinking water.
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>>25958874
Wow anon. That makes me feel.
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>>25958718
I'm glad you didn't do it, it has fucked my life in so many ways mainly confidence
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>>25958874
Don't be made about it anon, its not like you are going to use it anyways if you are on 4chan
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>>25958874
Thats quite sad.
I've tried to confront my mum on the issue but she thinks it's a joke. My dad lives in another country and I've rarely been in contact with him in. But my stepdad... he made that same bs argument "oh but it would get dirty/nasty".
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>>25958874
This reads like Elliot's manifesto, lmao. You've got his style down
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>>25958946
god fucking dammit. not that guy, but your post reminded me of something I'd hoped to forget

>circumcision gets brought up because it was on the television thing or some shit, don't exactly remember
>mom's agreeing along with it, and the whole "it's cleaner and reduces STD rates"
>get into it a bit more, refute her bullshit and tell her i'm kinda pissed they went through with it
>mom says "it's not like you're ever gonna use it anyway, so why do you care?"
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i dont know..... if i was a guy id get circumsized. i dont know much about the medical side of it but thier just gross and id never sleep with a guy who was uncircumsized
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I really don't get the big deal most of r9k makes out of circumcision. I had to get cut with 21 because of medical reasons (inb4 hurr jew tricked you). Since I had quite some simulation experience as uncut and also as cut, I don't see why people are whining about it. Orgasms are still great, the prestimulation is as thrilling without a foreskin as it was with it.
I'm starting to think that all these "cutfags" pretending to be miserable about it are actually uncut guys that don't understand a single thing about the matter.
>inb4 shilling jew
If you are an actual unhappy cutfag, can you tell me why?
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>>25959012
Silence shill
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>>25959019
mine was stitched together a little to tightly so it makes full-mast erections practically impossible, and very painful when i try. the glans also look & almost feel like the cracked earth in a desert from dryness
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>>25959056
Loose but a remnant of it makes it curve and gets some pain near the glans. I was done as a baby for no reason...
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There is hope. http://www.foregen.org/
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>Be uncircumsized
>every time I masturbate my foreskin gets small tears in it that get infected and my foreskin will be bloated and red for the rest of the week
>try stretching excersizes
>same thing happens
>Try stretching excersizes more gently
>same thing
>buy a fleshlight
>can't put my penis in because it hurts my foreskin
>buy the loosest fleshlight I can find
>same thing happens
>get to have sex
>stop after a few thrusts because it hurts so much I loose erection

Fuck it I'm gonna go get it cut
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>tfw parents were bro tier and didn't have me circumcised.
>tfw have mild case of phimosis.
>tfw no qt 3.14 gf to help me do stretching exercises.

I feel for the mutilated.. You will never know how sensitive the foreskin is.

Also how in the actual hell do you fap without a foreskin? I don't even..?
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>>25959139
We're doomed to have pain in our genitals anyway? Women have periods/childbirth, Men have issues with foreskin/balls being kicked...
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>>25959197
With your hand tbqhf
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>>25958718
Jews.

>This wasn't an original post. My sides!
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>>25959056
I'm sorry man, that's terrible. Okay, if the doctor messes the circumcision up, of course the patient is unhappy about it. I'm just wondering if cutfags with successful circumcision have anything to complain about.
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>>25959209
Sounds rough, and full of friction.
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It blows my mind that this is still a thing in first world countries. Other countries get along just fine without it, so if you are not a kike why keep it up?
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>>25959214
>Cutfag
>"Successful" circumcision
>Bent dick and pain where foreskin was years ago
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>>25958718
they don't destroy them - they sell them to cosmetics companies for several hundred dollars. plus they get paid to perform it

>>25958874
:\ I looked through mine too and I can't even find a mention of it. it's like it was so trivial as to not deserve note
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>Be uncut
>Thought it was normal
>Start watching porn
>Can't self insert
>Apparently being cut is normal

I'm glad, I'd never cure somebody by getting their dick cut. It's mutilation and the kid has no say in it.

Also it's not hard to keep clean.
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>>25959019
>I had to get cut with 21 because of medical reasons (inb4 hurr jew tricked you)

first, kill yourself
second, you "had a problem" meaning that it was expected to be better after mutilation
third, you weren't fucked at birth so your penis had a chance to develop normally
fourth, you lack the mental trauma from the procedure
fifth, you chose to do it
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>>25959403
curse*

I'm making so much typo's today holy shit.
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>>25959403
Exactly many of us never got a choice... (in my case my family wasn't religious nor did I have any medical problem)
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The circumcision thing America has makes me feel thankful that I was born in the UK. I hope America stops it's weird circumcision obsession soon.
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>mfw jealous anteater fags post bullshit to feel less insecure

I'm circumcised, my first son is circumcised, and my second son (on the way) will be circumcised as well. I thank my parents once a year for never making me live with a disgusting penis, and I am proud of providing my sons with the same benefit.
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>>25959006
>mom says "it's not like you're ever gonna use it anyway, so why do you care?"
Please tell me that's when you slapped the whore.
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>>25958718
Gotta sell those foreskins to the makeup industry goyim.
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>>25959516
>I thank my parents once a year for never making me live with a disgusting penis
fucking Americans, man
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>>25958718
>they always try to prematurely retract the foreskin for 'sanitary reasons'
Uh that's what you want to do. What do you mean "prematurely" ? How old is your son ? I'm uncut and never had any problem with my dick because my doctor retracted the foreskin when I was a kid. If she didn't do that, I would have had a phimotic pee pee that may have required circumcision at some point.
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>>25958874
You're a fag. Honestly how can it matter so much to you?
I'm circumcrised and I honestly don't give a fuck. It still feels good and I don't have to shower every day.
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>>25959006

I would have snapped and raped her desu.
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>>25959006
I fucking love this bullshit "it stops STDs" myth. The rest of the western world gets by uncircumcised just fine and still have lower STD rates than the US.
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>>25959288
America does the will of its kike masters. The most cucked country on the planet.
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>>25959516
Jews aren't welcome here.
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>tfw cut
>tfw immune to aids and other nasty shit so I can rawdog hookers all I want

You'll never know these feels, elephant fags.
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>>25959696
It's not just America :(
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>>25959516
>I'm proud to sever nerve endings in one of the most sensitive parts of my newborn son's body

Top b8.
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>>25959724
Cutfags confirmed for primary spreaders of STDs
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My friend invited me to that ceremony where they cut his kids foreskin
they also did that thing where the guy that cuts it licks the kids dick to "clean" it
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>>25959750
That's because cut dudes have more sex tbhdesuwa
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If you've ever seen images or seen it happen you know it's wrong... unless...
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Totally fine to cut a males genitals for religious or medical reasons... can't do that to a females though. "Equality"
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>>25959696
circumcision is literally a slave mark

it's "normal" thanks to T.V propaganda and also most of pornographic industry run by jews

Yet these people fall for the bait every fucking generation.
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>>25959820
Thats pretty much how it is unfortunately.
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>tfw was uncut
>tfw got a gf and she was creeped out
>demand i fix it
>i do
>she dumps me before getting laid

and here i am
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>>25959846
you deserve your pain
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>>25959846
I'm so sorry mate.
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>>25959846
Let me guess, American woman?
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>>25959846
>obeying to a succubus
It was a shit test you doofus she wanted to see if you were beta enough to mutilate yourself for her. I'm sure she's fucking and sucking an uncut Chad as we speak.
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>>25959889
A pretty cruel shit test.
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What is this prematurely retracting foresking meme I keep hearing about?
I don't remember being ever unable to fully retract my foreskin
I'm pretty sure there are pictures of me doing it at about 3-4 years old (at that age I used to be naked and play with my penis nonstop)
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>>25958874
i wash my dick x2 a day and it still gets a crazy amount of smegma up in it
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>>25959846
You are like that fag from /b/ who mutilated his penis with hair scissors in order to please sluts
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>>25959956
If only I knew what it felt like to have smegma and not have a dry glans.
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>>25958718
>prematurely retract the foreskin for 'sanitary reasons'

Happened to me. It hurt like hell and gave me frenulum breve which I have to this day.

I won't fix it. I'll just wait for the world to end.
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>>25959019
Then your dick hasn't been desensitised for 21 FUCKING YEARS YOU MORON. You do not know true suffering.
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>>25958894

please tell me your joking .
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>>25959956
>i wash my dick x2 a day
>still gets a crazy amount of smegma

You're doing something wrong.
I'm uncut and can literally go over a week without washing my dick and not get smegma.
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>>25960013
Unfortunately there is some truth in that... skincare products.
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Because our dicks don't have cheese growing in them because dad didn't need to teach us how to roll it back every time you shower.

That's why you circumcise. Apparently it really did a number on my dad even though I'm the oldest and really didn't care. My only younger brother was not circumcised. I must have screamed something horrible lol. Kinda feel bad for my bro but he's fucking bitches so I can't complain for him.
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>>25960013
He's joking (or spent too long on /pol/) but foreskin is a very profitable commodity.
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>>25960016

He's probably really yeasty. It's probably yeast.

>>25959956

Do you eat a lot of sugar?
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>>25959992
Pretty much this desu.

People who get circumcised later in life and then say it's not much different don't understand that 18+ years of the head dry rubbing inside underwear is a lot different than two years.
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>>25959977
laughed pretty hard thanks

>>25960016
i think i have an infection kek

>>25960066
idk, i dont really care about it so i havent been actively trying to figure out why
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>>25959019
>I had to get cut with 21
You're a fucking idiot. That's 21 years of your dick not getting sandpaper'd against your pants.
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>>25959295
By that I have something to add, when ever I masturbate 2 or 3 times a day(even at different times) my dick swells and I'm in constant pain for almost a week.
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>>25959956
I have an uncut dick with a properly functioning foreskin (fully retractable) and the only way for me to get something that resembles smegma is to let the foreskin 'on' and not take a single shower for like a month.

I still think that smegma is a meme.
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>>25959755
fucking jews man
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>>25959139
You must have some kind of weird condition then I've abused my dick like a mad cunt and never had any tears in my dick, It has swollen a couple of times though but that is only from whacking it way too hard with a superman grip and it goes down in a night. Liquid starts to build up from trauma, not from any infection, the same as if you hit your head and get a bump in the skin.
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Rabbis make a wallet out of the foreskins, if you stroke the foreskin wallet it will become a suitcase
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>>25959516
>I, my son and my upcoming son can not into basic fucking hygiene.
And they say Jewnited States is 1st world...
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>>25960314
>I, my son and my upcoming son can not into basic fucking medicine.
And they say whatever your faggot country or protectorate isn't third world...
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>>25959139
You have a weird dick
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>>25960354
Full on triggered.
Back to your safespace jew puppet.
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>>25960155
Same here, though I have to put in some serious effort to fully retract it. Only filthy people who don't clean their penis after cumming get smegma.
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>>25960390
Ouch, somebody's upset? What's the matter? Foreskin too tight?
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>>25960406
No, because I do not buy into jewish propaganda unlike one certain person here.
>The Talmudic laws required Jewish slave owners to try to convert non-Jewish slaves to Judaism. Other laws required slaves, if not converted to be circumcised and undergo ritual immersion in a bath.
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>>25959956
Do you fap then not clean yourself up properly?
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>>25959416
Okay my formulation was wrong. Of >>25959416
course it was better after circumcision, I had an unusual type of phimosis that became worse and worse over time because of an accident.
I'm comparing my time without that phimosis to my time after the cut.

I'm not sure about the developmental aspect. Lots of children are circumcised at a very young age but develop normally.

And the mental trauma is just a meme. I was well awake during the procedure, I can tell you that it was not nice for me either.
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>>25959956
>>25960016
I'm uncut and go like a year between washing any part of my body below the neck. Never had smegma.

I guess it has to do with religion in America. If kids are constantly told not to ever touch their dicks then they wont be peeling back the foreskin, and how will smegma grow if you peel that shit back every day?
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Holy fuck I just remembered the resistance when I first started peeling back my foreskin when I was like 8. I couldn't even get it down to the base of the head, I remember thinking it looked like a smooth little ass was coming out of my dick.
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>>25959516
>I thank my parents once a year for never making me live with a disgusting penis
Internalized misandry
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>>25959516
lol americucks
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>>25958767
I don't. A good number of American girls think it's gross to be uncircumcised
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>>25958718
>>always have to keep an eye on the doctor at every visit because they always try to prematurely retract the foreskin for 'sanitary reasons'
Mmm I'm sure you like keeping the dick cheese under there all to yourself, dontcha ;)
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>>25961078
>A good number of American girls think it's gross to be uncircumcised
Because the media tells them to. If you worked in marketing you would know that women are the most easily brainwashed.
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i want my goddamn forskin back im not even joking

i want it it fucking back what the fuck

fuck this world
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>>25961094
found the amerifat
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>>25961078
I've fucked three American girls (I'm Australian) and none of them thought it was weird. But then they were all educated, not bible bashing crazies.
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>>25961112
Oh sorry I must be mistaken. I thought it was normal for (uncircumcised) guys to clean under their foreskin
But whatever, dont ever retract it until its "mature" or whatever the fuck that means
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>>25961106
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

Every night I can feel my glans... rubbing on my pyjamas... even my tip...

The body I've lost... the skin I've lost... won't stop chafing.

It's like it's all still there. You feel it too, don't you? I'm going to make hem give back our foreskin.
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>>25961104
Most men know that women are most easily brainwashed desu


>>25961119
Where'd you go, shitposter?
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we have to put an end to this fucking sick machine guys, we have to do something.
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>>25961143
I fucked one in Istanbul, one in Beirut, and one in Barcelona. Never been to America.
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>>25961141

Just one thing, robot. This isn't about the past. It's about the future.
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>tfw not circumsized
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I hate being circumcised. I was never able to masturbate the "normal way" by just stroking your dick with your hand. I always have to rub my dick on the mattress or in soft PJs. If I try to rub my hand up and down it, its just too rough, my hand gets caught on it, even lube doesn't help that much.
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>>25961154
>girls that travel

Well that explains it.
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this sounds gross but fuck it, i wish i was circumcised because i kind of WANT there to be a little more stuff to clean. i really like those rank smells that the body gives off, i often rub my crotch area and sniff. if i had a foreskin i can only imagine how much more rank and satisfying it would be, and later i could clean it to have it smell fine
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>>25961187
Wtf that's not normal.
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> prematurely retract the foreskin

What are you talking about? I don't think there is such a thing. Shouldn't you be able to pull back the foreskin at any age? I think it was like that for me, I certainly don't remember any event in puberty where I was suddenly like "whoa I can pull this shit back?!"
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>>25961194
Two of them were there for postgrad studies, but whatever.

The other one had a boyfriend back in the states. kek
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>>25961206
*i wish i was uncircumcised
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>>25961212
I have a vague recollection of it happening for me, but it was long before puberty.
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Long story but I was cut when I was 12. I can confirm its worse and not nearly as sensitive. Not even talking about fapping, I just remember my dick was way more sensitive to the touch when I pulled back the skin
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>>25959846
Owned? lmao
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>>25961106
Same, same...
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>wikipedia
>the article on male circumcision is just called "circumcision
>article on female circumcision is called "female genital mutilation"

If that's not female privilege I don't know what is
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>>25961187
>Cut
>Never had to use lube
>I don't think I do it like most other guys
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>>25958718
I'm scared of this OP, they need the parents to consent first right?

Or will they shop my son's dick off one day if I am not keeping an eye on him on every doctor's visit since birth?
I don't want him growing up with a mangled jew dicke
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>tfw you realise ywn get gf and on top of that will never feel the full potential of your dick

>one shot at life

what kind of fucked up shit is this? i want off this ride.

http://youtu.be/3YxaaGgTQYM
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>>25961246
I pointed that out aswell.
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>>25961246
Um, the difference is that one is a necessary medical procedure and the other is mutilation?
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>>25961280
>i want off this ride.
Who doesn't?
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>>25961306
>Male
>Circumcised
>The foreskin was healthy and I never had health problems
>Family athiests
>Cut for no reason
>Like many other males
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>>25961306
Did you know that an ancient tribe used to scoop out the left eye of every newborn because they believed that it would protect them from evil?
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>>25961306
"necessary medical procedure"
Most of the time it isn't...
Have you ever seen a circumcision?
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It actually disturbs me that male circumcision on healthy babies is still legal.
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>>25961131
fuck off metric you jew cuck, you're honestly the biggest SJW retard on this board.

Kill yourself
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>>25961104
Does it matter why they think that? The point is, the majority thinks it's gross. It doesn't matter why. And to be honest it is kinda gross. Shit looks like a fucking elephant truck.
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>>25961397
youre just bait trolling
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>>25961346
>comparing removing an important part of the body because of some dumb voodoo magic to performing a medical procedure on a vestigial organ in order to prevent unnecessary disease
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>>25960718
>And the mental trauma is just a meme. I was well awake during the procedure, I can tell you that it was not nice for me either.

The chances are, they used anaesthetic. On infants, the foreskin is completely fused to the head of the penis, then they use a metal device to forcibly separate the head and the foreskin then they cut it off. In a lot of cases, they don't use anaesthetic and a lot of children go into shock during the procedure. This is done as, a lot of doctors say "they won't remember it"
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>>25961457
0/ten

try harder
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>>25961212
>What are you talking about? I don't think there is such a thing. Shouldn't you be able to pull back the foreskin at any age? I think it was like that for me, I certainly don't remember any event in puberty where I was suddenly like "whoa I can pull this shit back?!"

No. The foreskin in children is fused to the head. As the child nears puberty, it gradually defuses. If a toddler/child has their foreskin forcibly retracted, it can damage the penis and cause intense pain.
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>>25961535
b-b-but its for sanitary purposes
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When I got circumcised the doctor fucked up and actually cut a small piece of the head of my penis off and it had to be stitched back on. We got $$$ in a lawsuit and my dick works. I wish I hadn't had that happen to me though
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>>25961502
It can also stuff up the development of the brain...
http://www.circumcision.org/brain.htm
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>>25959992
>>25960094

So is there anyone who got cut after a few years of fapping, and then reported on the sensation 15+ years later? I mean, is there any real proof that it deadens the nerves? Somehow our hands have plenty of innervation despite being in contact with tons of rough things on a daily basis.

Also I'm a cutfag who's pissed about it, just fyi. Not necessarily because of being robbed of pleasure but just being mutilated for no good reason.
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201109/myths-about-circumcision-you-likely-believe
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ive been also hearing that circumcision stunts the growth of your penis

JUST
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>>25958718
>why are American doctors so obsessed with destroying foreskins?
because they can sell them to the cosmetics industry for $$$$$$$
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>>25959139
Probably have phimosis
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I hope Foregen succeeds.
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>>25959632
>>25959934
>>25961212
https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201110/what-is-the-greatest-danger-uncircumcised-boy
>Aside from circumcision? ... a well-baby visit. Our physicians' international non-profit intervenes in over 100 cases each year of intact boys who were injured by a primary care provider. The injury is called 'PFFR,' or Premature Forcible Foreskin Retraction. We conservatively estimate the annual incidence in the U.S. at more than 100,000 cases. Ironically, many occur when a parent takes the child to a well-baby visit, at 6, 12, or 24 months; but this injury might occur at any age. The children we have helped range in age from one week to 12 years.
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>>25958894
They actually put it in makeup
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>Dad was circumcised by religious zealot family
>Was probably going to get me cut if my mother didn't stop him
T-thanks mum.
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>>25959596
is this accurate? are people so willing to smear their faces with foreskin paste to become prettier?
this is a dumb world
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>>25959632
this is odd. I would never let a stranger grab my dick.
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>>25962076
> fibroblast cells. Fibroblasts cause the skin to regrow the elasticity and elegance of youth for whoever uses a fibroblast-based cream. What is the best source for these wonder cells? Baby foreskins

Every cutfag has literally been kek'd by jew doctors
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>>25962076
Yeah m8. Why else would hospitals be paid for the foreskins they collect?
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Is this a joke that has just kinda gond on for too long? Who fuckin' cares, man?

Circumsised masterrace
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>>25958874
Just coat your dick in silly putty every day
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>>25959846
you deserve that and every bad thing that happens to you as a result. I hope your self-cucking has some butterfly effect shit.
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>>25959846
#wastehisdick2016
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>get tax refund
>donate it to a foreskin restoration company
>two days later, cops show up
>they have a search warrant, I've been linked to antisemitic terrorism
>they search my computer, look in my browser cache, see thumbnails of those happy merchant pictures (because they're everywhere on 4chan, can't avoid it)
>they arrest me for hate speech
>spend the night in the county jail
>bail costs $1000
>bailiff laughs, says "guess you know what to spend your refund on this year!"
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>>25959956
I can spend 4 days without showering and don't get smegma, you just have a disease, nothing to do with your foreskin.
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>>25960133
>Not spending entire days fapping until you're a semen encrusted husk

You should be thankful, it's a terrible hole to fall in.
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I'm been trying to restore but it's too damn hard. I'm tightly cut so I have nothing to work with.
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>>25962150

Circumcision is pretty much cosmetic surgery at this point. People do it because 'it looks better'. It's an irreversible surgery that's medically unnecessary and done on someone who can't consent.
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>>25959139

The foreskin is the part of the penis that has the best feels in it. Getting it cut off just because it tears is most likely a mistake.

Why not get a preputioplasty?
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>>25964433
how does it look better? the glans is all dry and shrubly becuase it has no protective covering.
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>>25960013
>>25960037

He's joking by writing it in the kookiest konspiracy terms possible, but yea czech out oestrogens in plastics / cosmetics and their propagation through the environment into food and water, into people and their effect on breast cancer rates and male infertility / demasculinization.

It's real shit
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>>25959214

A tight circumcision isn't considered "messing up". It's considered pretty much a standard style.
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>>25959632

>Uh that's what you want to do.

No, not really. Premature retraction can damage the penis.

http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/info/info-forcedretraction.html

>At birth the penis is anatomically immature and still developing. The foreskin adheres to the glans, (the little firefighter's hat at the end) because of a natural connective membrane, the balano-preputial lamina.

>This membrane or synechia is apparently nature's method of protecting the highly nerve-supplied portion of the maturing penis from feces, the ammonia in urine, and other irritants and pathogens. This membrane can take as long as 18 years or more to disappear allowing retraction. The mean age for natural foreskin retraction without pain or trauma is 10.4 years.1

>Some men never see their glans until they are in the 20's. Any time is normal, there is no need to see the glans early, and rushing the timetable for retraction is not necessary or desirable as no special hygiene is needed. Indeed, pre-adolescent boys need no internal cleaning whatsoever, and to suggest toddlers need to be retracted at each bath, or should be taught to do so themselves, demonstrates stunning ignorance and cruelty.

Forcing the foreskin back is wrong, and it's not necessary to prevent phimosis. It's not even the medical standard of care. Doctors who do it are doing the wrong thing.
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>>25964645
all circumcisions are messed up. your cutting away a natural part of the penis.
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>>25958718
Because they sell them to the cosmetic industry, it's good $$$
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>>25961187

That was the original reason why circumcision became popular in the US (and to some extent in the rest of the anglosphere)--to make it harder to masturbate.

As recently as a couple years ago some nutjobs were advocating circ to impede masturbation in kids.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140517003019/http://boyguard.com/
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>>25959956
The rate you develop smegma can be genetic
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>>25964750
Makes me wonder if people were more gullible then. Would/do people take medical advice from a cereal man today?
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>>25959019

>I had to get cut with 21 because of medical reasons

Did you have a necrotic wound on your foreskin, or did it die due to frostbite?

If neither is the case I'm pretty sure you were screwed. If you had phimosis you could have gotten a preputioplasty. If you had BXO you could've gotten it vaporized with a laser beam.

Circumcision is a primitive blood sacrifice ritual that worked its way into medicine due to the desire of Victorian doctors to suppress male sexuality. As science advances, less destructive procedures are killing "therapeutic" circumcision bit by bit.

>the prestimulation is as thrilling without a foreskin as it was with it.

It can't possibly be the same. The greatest density of fine touch sensitive encapsulated nerve endings are in the foreskin, not the glans.
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>>25964750
>to make it harder to masturbate.

yeah i can attest to that. i cant fao without the aid of lube or onahole.

guys with forsekin can just tug on their shaft and glide the head in n out of their extra foreskin without any external lubricants.
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>>25959012
At least it would be your choice
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>>25964865

Like this, right?

It's kind of amazing, isn't it? Like a work of mechanical genius.
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>>25964901
yeah...

i will never have this
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>>25959012

The natural, normal male form isn't any grosser than your form.
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>>25964926

Check this one out

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Foreskin_gliding_action_in_masturbation.ogv

That people are too stupid to see how amazing this is saddens me.
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>>25958874
For me it's not even about the nerves or special skin shit. A doctor fucked with my dick as a baby and made it worse for no good reason. My fucking private parts. Girls are immune to that shit despite having nasty ass roasties and it makes me boil with rage.
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>>25964957
http://www.foreskinrestore.com/restored_foreskin.html
It is apparently something that really feels good.
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>>25961689

>I mean, is there any real proof that it deadens the nerves?

If you get your foreskin cut off, you lose all the nerve endings in the foreskin.

The foreskin itself is loaded with specialized sensory end organs. It's not just skin, and it's not just a covering for the glans.

>The prepuce is a specialized, specific erogenous tissue in both males and females. Therefore, surgical excision should be restricted to lesions that are unresponsive to medical therapy, such as lichen sclerosis of the penis...or vulva, which is unresponsive to other therapies (e.g. topical clobetasol, intralesional corticosteroids, topical testosterone propionate ointment, etretinate, and carbon dioxide or laser vaporization) [99]. Preputial plasty [100] should be considered in place of circumcision whenever possible, so as to preserve the corpuscular sensory receptors, dartos muscle, penile mucosa and complete function of the penis, while avoiding abnormal exposure and keratinization of the glans penis. Although some cultures celebrate the abnormal anatomy caused by circumcision, many women [101,102] and men [103] have reported this abnormal penile/clitoral exposure to be uncomfortable. The male prepuce contains the vast majority of the penile dartos muscle that cannot be regenerated after circumcision. The preputial mucosa and outer epithelium provides adequate epithelial coverage of the erect penis.

>The loss of the prepuce ridged band and the formation of an amputation neuroma are two further complications associated with male circumcision. Although a Fourcroy grade 1 female circumcision would excise less tissue than in a male, this comparison cannot be used to justify female circumcision. Excision of normal, erogenous genital tissue from healthy male or female children cannot be condoned, as the histology confirms that the external genitalia are specialized sensory tissues.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1464-410x.1999.0830s1034.x/pdf
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>>25965085
>all those peircings
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>>25965085

I'm sure it's nice to have the gliding action back, but it's still nowhere near the same thing as a real foreskin--and if you want to try it it's probably better to talk to a doctor about it first.

This one guy did it ("foreskin restoration") but he said it was nowhere near the same thing as a real foreskin, sadly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj_nYcumC0c

By the way the guy who hosted this video and did the interview is a politician in Britain who's trying to get MGM banned.
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>>25958874
You sound like a bitch.
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>>25958718
>>always have to keep an eye on the doctor at every visit because they always try to prematurely retract the foreskin for 'sanitary reasons'
This makes sense. Trying to prematurely retract the foreskin can create problems so it sounds like they're trying to create a reason to perform circumcision. Definitely keep an eye out and look into getting a good lawyer.
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>>25965152
>it's probably better to talk to a doctor about it first.
A doctor fucked it up and many more will want to keep it fucked up because the Hippocratic/Hypocritical Oath gives them an "if it ain't broke don't ever fix it" attitude. I do wish there were proper doctors out there who can help monitor the restoration process, give advice on how much tension is needed, how long to wear it for the best and quickest results, etc. But that won't happen in this country.
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>>25964028

Did you talk to a doctor about it?

I wouldn't try it without getting some medical advice first.

If you're cut drumskin-tight, pulling your shaft skin can end up putting tension on your tunica albuginea, and this can lead to penis damage. Be careful.
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>>25965197
a bitch sulks and is passaive aggressive or timid.

this guy confronted his parents on their wrong doing.
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>>25965225

Well, I wouldn't recommend taking matters into your own hands without any medical advice. You'd feel pretty stupid if you hated being cut because it damaged your penis, and then end up damaging it even further trying to fix it.

Foregen might make REAL foreskin regeneration possible in the coming years too, so it might just do better to wait.

But if you're sure you want to try tugging then why not contact Doctors Opposing Circumcision and ask them if they can help set you up with a consultation with a doctor who will give you some safety tips?

I don't know whether they actually do that but it seems likely that they would if you asked. You might have to pay a little money though.
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>>25965261
>be amerifat

cant even afford a doctor
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>cutfags pretend they didn't get fucked
>mfw they don't even remember that if cut truly were superior, uncutfags can always get it done later in life - unlike cutfags who were robbed of their choice
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>foregen allows us to rebuild our foreskin completely
>regrow it
>cut it off again, sell it to cosmetics companies
>regrow it
>cut it off again
>live the turboNEET life
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>>25959755

>they also did that thing where the guy that cuts it licks the kids dick to "clean" it

That's called metzitzah b'peh.
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>>25965152
And yeah it ain't the same thing but what the fuck else can I do? Hell no I ain't doing no transplant shit.
>>25965311
The problem with seeking medical advice is that most doctors, even urologists, don't know a thing about restoration in the US. At best they'd tell you to be careful and not hurt yourself and at worst they'll flat out tell you not to do it ever. The lack of knowledge about restoration in the medical field is quite staggering. It is a genuine problem and there is almost no research about restoration at all. No hard research about before and after, nothing showing increases or decreases in tissue sensitivity, nothing. It's still just all community hearsay and anecdotal evidence at this point. However, some plastic surgeons do prescribe restoration devices as "skin growing devices" for those who have gotten or are getting penile extension surgery... But those doctors are few and far between.
If regeneration can come through, it's going to be expensive and i can get the excess skin from restoration removed and replaced with real foreskin anyway.
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>>25959139
Sounds like you have balanitis, because that is not the normal experience of having a foreskin, so don't blame that.
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nightmare fuel desu senpai
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>>25965482

>It is a genuine problem and there is almost no research about restoration at all. No hard research about before and after, nothing showing increases or decreases in tissue sensitivity, nothing.

That's probably why a lot of doctors are hesitant to recommend it, even the ones who've heard of it.

Doctors Opposing Circumcision might know some doctors who know more about it than most of them though. That's why I suggested contacting them.

You'll hear a lot of varying experiences of men who have "restored". Some say it really improved sex. Others say the improvement was very small. And some even say they regretted it and they were better off before.
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>>25961306
It is in no way necessary.
>but muh hygiene
Wash your dick
>but STDs
Watch where you stick your dick
>but it's gross
Grow up. Vaginas are disgusting but we don't cut them. It's better for sex too.
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>>25965261
No I didn't. I'm been using DTR for about five months. Would I notice the damage?
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>>25965431
Find me ONE cosmetic industry that buys foreskins and ill cut mine off right now
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If you're 18 and not older supposedly it's possible to sue the doctor/hospital if it was done without permission. People have done this and won.

BTW where is goatfucker?
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>>25965574

Probably you would have noticed by now, yeah.

If you're not having any pain, vein swelling, thinning of the skin, or an "hourglass" shape to your erections (all of which indicate damage), I guess you're probably okay.

The DTR web site actually does recommend talking to a doctor before trying the device, though.
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>>25965582
How new are you? This is ancient news.

>Foreskin fibroblasts are used to grow and cultivate new cells that are then used for a variety of purposes. From the fibroblasts new skin for burn victims can be grown, skin to cover diabetic ulcers, and controversially it is also used to make cosmetic creams and collagens.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/10/baby-foreskin-facial_n_7040808.html
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>>25965311
>>25965482

not only that, those doctor visits cost money. you can go in get the typical medical lecture jargon, (does absolutely nothin) and youre saddled with a 800 dollar bill for just talking with the fucker.

americlap
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>>25965582

Allergan, Inc.

Keep your foreskin though, anon. It's ok.
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>>25965671
they sacrificed my sexual well being so roasties can look good?
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>>25965742
yes
they don't call it the jewnited states for nothing
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How much profit does a foreskin generate?
What if all circumcised people were compensated for their product?
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>>25965671

>>25965704

Both are baby foreskins. But fuck i shoulda clarified.

You'll see a thread from me later, Codename lyoko
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>>25959403
It's only normal by American standards. It's like 60/40 in favor of uncut in Canada which is still ridiculously high. A lot of porn is America's so expect pornstars to be cut.
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>>25965820
Don't worry, your parents paid the doctor/hospital for the privilege of making money off your foreskin :^)
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>>25965457
And then the baby gets herpes.
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>>25965671
god this shit, this shit right here just pisses me off

it really reminds of how absurd this world is we live in
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>>25965909

Yeah, it's fucked up. This is a crazy world.

You want to know something especially crazy?

There are people who LOVE the thought of a baby getting held down and circumcised. They jerk off to the idea and write erotica about it. They get off on the baby's pain.
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>>25965102

You focused on one specific phrase and ignored the overall message. Has there ever been someone who had a non-botched circumcision in adulthood and later on noted that the sensation was significantly less pleasurable after?
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>>25966003

>You focused on one specific phrase and ignored the overall message.

I was explaining that the foreskin itself is loaded with special sensual nerve endings. If you cut those specialized sensory tissues off, it's physiologically impossible for the sensation to be the same afterwards. You can't remove tissues and still have the same sensation in those tissues that got removed.

>Has there ever been someone who had a non-botched circumcision in adulthood and later on noted that the sensation was significantly less pleasurable after?

Yes. I posted a video of one earlier in this thread. Here's another.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtN7JmMUfZE
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>>25958718
>why are American doctors so obsessed with destroying foreskins?

They're mostly kikes and they get paid for mutilating penises.
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>>25959516
gg (good goyim) fellow 4channer
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>>25966048

Fair enough. I just had never heard any testimonials for anyone who had experience both. Like I said, the whole procedure is barbaric and it's crazy that it's even still allowed, much less encouraged, in the modern era.
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>>25966102

Even if someone was circumcised as an adult, it's not really comparable to someone who was circumcised for life had their glans chaffed by clothing over a decade. someone cut as an adult still has their shiny penis for a long while before it ends up all dry and cut up.
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>>25959235
It is. I woke up almost every day for 25 years with morning wood, my skin as tight as a drum. Very uncomfortable as was having my glans rub against my clothing until I started retaining the skin over it.
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>>25958874
>get in a confrontation with dad because of it since we are not burgers and most people here are uncut so im a fucking freak
"lol son its more hygiene and the whole lost sensitivity thing is a lie xDD "
if he didn't pay for my shit i would have beat the shit out of him right there.
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>>25964609

American media shames intact penises.

In a scene in 'There's Something About Mary", a British guy tries hitting on an American girl and brags about how his penis looks like a torpedo and the girl is obviously disgusted by it and the joke is that uncut penises look gross. In the Adult Swim cartoon 'The Venture Brothers', there's a scene where 2 brothers hook up with twin girls, but the girls become disgusted when they find out that they aren't circumcised.

Being uncircumcised has hardly ever been portrayed positively in American media other than porn.
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>>25966356

>"lol son its more hygiene and the whole lost sensitivity thing is a lie xDD "

How can people be so foolish as to not understand that if you cut tissue off you won't be able to feel real sensation in that tissue anymore?

Maybe they think the foreskin is dead tissue, like your hair or fingernails?

It's not though.

Check out the ridged band on this one. A lot of feeling in sex and masturbation comes from the ridged band.
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>>25960718
>Lots of children are circumcised at a very young age but develop normally.

I'm fucked in the head AND body from my infant circumcision. Don't need a psychiatrist or jew studies to make me aware of that.
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>>25966396
>tfw not only im cut i was also born with only one testicle
I can't get a gf because if i did she would tell everyone about it. Cant get test supplements either because jews.
>just b urself ;)
Murder me i don't want to live
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>>25966446

>Don't need a psychiatrist or jew studies to make me aware of that.

Actually, some of the main critics of circumcision who have studied its negative psychological effects have been Jews.

Look up the work of the psychologist Ron Goldman for more info.
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>>25966396

>open image to inspect ridged band
>mom walks in

congrats on justifying my mom's suspicions of me being gay.

I wish I had a foreskin ;c
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>>25965742
This is a legitimate outrage and I'm infuriated

What the fuck
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>>25958748

Every dick I've ever seen that was attached to the son of a doctor had a foreskin.
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>>25966517
We can share our pain with gooks at least. Their rates are even higher and I'm sure you know how much the women love makeup.
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>>25966517

If you want more outrage, look here

http://www.circumstitions.com/fetish.html

This is a thing.

Vernon Quaintance, the head of the Gilgal Society (a circumfetish organization that published a lot of the works of Brian Morris, pictured here) was recently arrested and sent to prison for having a hoard of CP and sexually abusing boys under the pretense of inspecting their foreskins (or lack thereof).
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>>25959516
unless my child has phimosis or another medical need to get his dick snipped i'm gonna let him keep his flappy dappys
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>>25966699

Make sure you read this, man.

http://www.cirp.org/library/normal/

Most diagnoses of "phimosis" in kids are spurious. And even if a kid has a real pathological phimosis (preputial stenosis), it can almost certainly be fixed without circumcision.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjRc3NJo2V8

Pic unrelated
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>>25959846
You could've literally just pulled your foreskin down. It looks exactly like a cut dick except with a bit of skin bundled up below the glans.
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ITT: "I know better than this doctor whose spent his entire career studying human health."
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>>25966846
ITP im a gentile/jew that endorses snibbedy snabbing kids dicks without their consent so Oprah can use their foreskins as skin cream
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>have more unbiased discussion of circumcision on 4chan than any other forum/message board
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>>25966913
Its because Jews control the media.
This thread is what they don't want you to know.
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>25966846

Forced retraction is known to be dangerous and no medical organization supports it. It's not the standard of care.

Doctors who do it are putting their patients at risk and should be corrected.

http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/info/info-forcedretraction.html

Blindly trusting your doctor just because "he's a doctor" is idiotic. Medical malpractice happens and it's actually one of the major causes of death in the US.
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>>25959956
Dry your fucking dick when you finish taking a shower man
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>>25966532
Can confirm, I know two sons of doctors, one anesthesiologist, the other General practice, both of them uncut.
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>>25964727

Iunno, I'm a cutfag who's very happy with their dick. Then again I'm very happy with all of me unlike, most of /r9k/
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>>25967087

>Iunno, I'm a cutfag who's very happy with their dick.

Are you happy with it because you don't know much about the parts of the penis that they cut off?
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>>25967087

You can be raped, tortured, beaten up, falsely accused of a crime, unjustly arrested, teased, bullied, and publicly humiliated and still be happy about yourself, it doesn't mean that you weren't wronged. If you're cut and okay with it, cool. It doesn't stop circumcision from being harmful and it doesn't justify circumcision remaining common practice.
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>>25967160

No, but I do know my dick looks damn good and my parents found a good doctor to do it and everything is basically normal
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>>25967204
Well said, anonym
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>>25967087

Anyone who says they are happy with being cut should experience masturbation and sex with a foreskin and read up on forced retraction and how harmful circumcision is. People shouldn't be okay with circumcision being so common that
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>>25967227
>and everything is basically normal

No, no it fucking isn't. They ablated a part of an organ.

That's not fucking "normal".
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>>25967227
its not fucking normal
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>>25967227

>No

So you're saying you've researched the foreskin and understand what you lost?

>but I do know my dick looks damn good

A matter of opinion.

>everything is basically normal

Not possible. The foreskin is primary erogenous tissue and without it, the sensuality and function of the male organ is inherently compromised.

It might be "normal" in the sense that most guys where you live have been cut, so it's normal in that sense--as in, common. But it's not normal as in undistorted.

If you can't feel the pleasure of your ridged band, that's not normal. If you've ever needed lube to fap, that's not normal. If you have a scar on your dick, that's not normal.

I'm not trying to make you feel bad. I'm talking about objective reality.
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>>25958874
Don't be an asshole to your parents. Find a way to deal with it--look into restoration, but don't be an asshole to your parents.
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>>25959139
Go see a doctor, anon
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>>25958874
>the most important thing in the universe, my dick
I'm late here, but wow. What a bitch you are.
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>>25968226
It's not far off.

A man's dick should be the most important thing to him because it's the only way for him to continue the experience of his genes beyond his death, and it's a major source of pleasure / good feeling. It literally is the key into the universe.

Be warned, roastie. If you try to convince me a man's dick is not important to him you will fail.
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