>>25958088 I can't even understand how parents do this. This doesn't happen in most cultures unless you've done something horrible and are disowned. I know people with great jobs and partners in their 30's that happily live at home. It's so fucking weird to leave and live isolated in borderline poverty when you can be at home with family that loves you
>>25958215 I come from a culture similar to that. My parents wouldn't mind me staying, but it stops once it gets to the idea of having a live-in partner. My parents would barely even allow me to bring girlfriends over.
>tfw got a good job, just saving enough money so I can kick myself out.
>tfw gonna get a shoebox apartment in the middle of manhattan so I can bang all the girls I want
>>25958088 opposite feel as long as I live under their roof they get my NEET bux so they don't want me to move out I feel like I will never be able to become a normie living as a neet a 19 so I want to save up my neet money and try renting out but my parents won't help me move out at all and are actively trying to make me stay home
>>25958088 Sort of except my parents don't do it behind my back they do it directly. >We want you out of the house T-Thanks mom and dad, it's not like being homeless in the middle of a Minnesotan winter is going to go well.
>>25959723 >it's not like being homeless in the middle of a Minnesotan winter is going to go well Reminds me of overhearing two hitchhikers talking about what cities had programs to stop homelessness. One of them said that his hometown had a great program, they had reduced the number of homeless by 60% in a year.
The other guy said his country (Finland) has a national program to limit the homeless, it is called -40 degree winters.
You disgusting fatbodies need to get control of the narrative. Your parents are considering this option because you haven't given them any reason to believe you take their sacrificing for you seriously, since they're putting off their "empty nest" golden years because of YOU, and you're not giving them a timeline to resolve the issue. From their perspective you're sitting in your room doing fuck all while they're carrying 100% of the burden.
Tell your parents you want to have a meeting with them. When you meet with them, acknowledge that your current situation is a burden on them, and say that you've put together a plan. Then, give a target date to move out and how you'd accomplish it.
1) Moving out:
You've looked at Craigslist in a city or place you'd like to live - it costs $x per month to rent a room in a shared apartment (plus factor in $100 a month for utilities).
To afford the down payment to move in (typically 2 months up front), you'd need to save up a certain amount per month for however many months.
2) Getting a job:
You'll submit a certain number of resumes a day, and keep track of this via a spreadsheet that allows you to know when to follow up with each company etc. They can review the spreadsheet at any time to see your progress.
If you tell them something like this, they're likely to let you stay until you've achieve 1) and 2) because you've taken ownership of your life and are giving them a definite end date.
>>25958215 >I can't even understand how parents do this.
They are fucking normies. Nothing is ever their fault and they sincerely believe that kicking you out will help you. They are fucking delusional and cannot fathom how anyone would not be able to survive in the outside world. They don't even think about the possibility of you dying out there somewhere, alone, cold, in a trench. It's fucked up man.
My dad said I could stay in his home as long as I wanted but I had to get a fulltime job and pay rent because he didn't want me to end up sleeping all day and playing games all night. I think that's fair.
I don't know how that anon was raised but have you seen some of the parents out there? I'm friends with older family members on facebook and I'm shocked to see how many still comment on stories saying "Somebody should backhand that child!" or "Obama can't take away MY spanking paddle!" or "Let's make wine glasses out of mason jars and candlesticks Debbie" It's sick. Most boomers were terrible parents and now their children are terrible parents.
>>25959826 Kek If it was the spring fall or summer it wouldn't be a big deal, because then I can just travel to warmer regions. But right fucking now? Calm the fuck down, you're literally trying to kill me here.
>>25959898 >Just get a job bro! >Just be yourself bro! >XDXDXDXD Jesus christ you normies literally do not understand a single thing about this. You think I'd be fucking living in my parents basement if I could get a fucking job? Smh desu senpai.
Stop trying to use the >le there are shitty parents maymay
Everyone thinks their parents suck, but only a few actually do. If you're shocked by comments then you're a fucking faggot and it's no wonder people like you don't have the fortitude to sort yourself as adults
>They've helped you plenty and you threw it back in their face by refusing to develop properly. The only delusions here are are yours, you selfish, lazy, pampered little cunt. The have helped me? Am I refusing to develop properly? TOP KEK M8. JUST B URSELF-tier advice right there, you fucking normalfag. Yeah, I should just forget all those years of physical and mental abuse, man up, probably marry a single mother, right? Well, fuck you. I have tried to "be normal", I have tried to "fit in", but I can't. I fucking can't.
>There is no excuse (apart from critical illness) to be living at home as an adult for an extended period of time without clearly making an effort to get your shit together to be leaving. Americuck-thinking right there. For young adults these days the choice is basically between living at home or living with normie roommates. College and uni is basically high school 2.0 and living with roommates extends that even longer. I can't fucking deal with those normies anymore.
>No parent wants a shitty adult child stagnating in their house with no end in sight. Oh yeah? Maybe they shouldn't have a child in the first place.
If I ever get kicked out I will honestly just go in the deep woods to die.
My parents were great. I was raised by Christian parents alongside 7 home schooled siblings who speak respectfully and have never been hit by their parents in their life (outside of when they were toddlers, maybe). Spanking kids is extremely low class.
>>25960338 If my parents kick me out i will probably just be homeless for a while and steal or find food. I don't think i can force myself to work. I just can't adapt to working or being in a normie environment. My body and mind just can't deal with it. Basically what i'm saying is i'm a lazy pussy, but why am i like this and not other people?
>>25960409 Once I'm kicked out I'm killing myself. It's either slowly die from being homeless and be in constant pain from infections and untreated wounds and shit until then; or save myself the further pain and eventual death and just do it right away. Literally zero difference between the two save for one would cause a lot more discomfort and one of them you'd be dying sooner then later.
Why is my brain this way and why do i have so much despair and so much thought of futility? I just don't see a point in working when i literally have no power to change the course of anything. Nothing to explore, nothing to discover, nothing i do will ever matter. What is the point of even trying? What are we born in this generation to do? Sit around, eat and shit until we die? What is there to do in this life? All my life has been is pain and sorrow. There is no reason for me not to kill myself
I literally have lost all hope. There is no point of forcing myself to do shit that i hate. I will literally never be happy and i know nothing i do will ever make me normal or functioning.
>>25960515 You poor thing, how ever will you survive. You think that way because you're a loser. Successful people don't this way because they're to busy making moves and enjoying whatever moments they can. They know the most valuable asset is time. Have fun trying telling yourself you're too different to fit in, when in reality you're just a negative depressing loser.
>>25960507 >Boomers refuse to leave jobs because muh retirement thanks to less then wonderful economy >Leaves future generations out of jobs >Blames them for not being able to get jobs Y-You too boomers. >>25960568 >What is emotional dependence
>>25959898 >since they're putting off their "empty nest" golden years why did they give birth to him at all? if they didn't then they would have 50 years of "empty nest" golden years. doesn't seem logical
>>25958088 every single day to my face.but fuck that. i've earned being a neet. i worked at a young age. borderline child labor violations type shit.every weekend and sometimes holidays and birthdays. 6am to 12 pm and then go back 5pm to 11pm. every single fucking weekend for 5 years. and they never paid me a dime except for the occasional 5 bucks. "it's for the experience" the said. well consider me fucking experienced. i'm on a 5 year break.
>>25960592 >You think that way because you're a loser. I am. I never said i wasn't >Have fun trying telling yourself you're too different to fit in I am not telling myself that. I know that i can't fit in and i don't want to fit in.
Why the fuck are you even on r9k you fucking wagekek normie? why don't you go be a faggot somewhere else
>three years ago >Me and my mother had fight >Wake up the next day to find all my stuff packed >"You can't leave here anymore" >Lived on a friend's couch for a couple of months before finding another place to live >Haven't moved back, and probably never will. But it was for the best me and my parents and on really good terms now
>>25961781 The point I was making is if you literally have only the clothes on your back you could easily steal shit and slink away in the shadows, because there wouldn't be anything to tie you down or identify you to others. You could literally steal some bread, and just keep running until you get tired, and I doubt cops would chase him from state to state for something like that.
>>25962518 They have homes to stay and get found at, cell phones that can get tracked, friends who'd know where they are most times of the day, etc. If you're homeless it's a lot harder because you're not a part of society anymore, you can easily drift in and out of places without creating a lot of effects.
>parents openly scream at me daily that they're going to kick me out unless i find a job >explain to them a million times that im 20/400 vision in one and and 20/80 in the other, both while corrected with glasses >im unable to even get a drivers license >have severe social anxiety to the point where i break down and nearly cry every time i have to interact with someone not in my immediate family that i know already >they made a huge deal out of taking me to get glasses (so i could fucking see) and also threw a fit when they had to drive me to renew my state ID >they say they're going to drive me to work when/if i ever get a job but based on those past experiences i know they're going to bitch and moan about it every single day >live in middle of nowhere so i can't just bike to work >they make 0 attempt to help me sign up for disability from my blindness/social disorders >know they're going to kick me out probably this summer >tfw ill probably just kill myself
can anyone help me by explaining how to approach things when it comes to this?
>>25963577 >They offered to drive you yeah, they did, but they also did the same when they took me to get my glasses -- something i need to actually move around and see, and yelled at me the entire day and on the way there. they literally won't do that every single day.
>see real blind people on public transportation all of the time let me know of public transportation that comes out to rural ohio 20 miles away from a town of only 600 people and like 50 miles from a small sized city
>>25963577 >You're a lazy little bitch ? i WANT to work, i'd love to get a job and move out on my own but in my current situation i literally can't which is why i asked for people to help me with what to do in my situation, not claim every single thing i said is bullshit.
>>25963647 I'm surprised that you're getting so much hate, you actually have reason to be NEET. But do take your parents up on their offer to drive you around, no matter how much they bitch about it. You can escape.
Fembot here. I am 26 and still live at home, I am unemployed. My parents have told me they WILL kick me out if I don't go before I am 28 (14 months to go).
Its not fucking fair. All the stacey sluts can just get a hard working husband and live with him. I am 290lbs and have a moustache so what am I supposed to do?
I only got fired from my last job because I tried to get a boyfriend there, on my parents encouragement.
>Told them that one of my male co-workers was cute >they said I need to get him so I can go and live with him >felt pressured, even more so, to try and talk to him >job is stacking shelves at a supermarket >I approach him one day when he is stacking the baby products >'d-don't stack those we'll only take them down again when shopping for our baby' >he doesn't understand >panic, ask him to get me pregnant and try to grab his crotch >apologise, tell him it was just a game >decide I have to do it once or twice a week to make it seem like I was joking >walk over and grab his crotch every week for a few months >eventually devolves into me getting fired for sexual harassment
>>25963088 My older brother is a NEET too, parents accepted his NEETdom long ago. He also gets autismbux with a side of angerbux >his anger is so much out of control he literally tried to kill his professor in uni and spent a year in looney bin
man all these neets sure sound like they are living the high life! As a wageslave, I sure am jealous of you having all that free time to be yelled at by your parents!
Ahahahaha, this thread is a perfect counterpoint to all those wagecuck threads, hey neets it sure is nice having awesome parents that are proud of your success, maybe you should try working and see how nice it feels to make it on your own.
Americans are fucking shit that's why. They are so fucking in to merchants game they don't even realize it. There is no fucking way a young person with an average job to get his own place in this day, don't even tell me about renting it's just fucking wasted money.
>literally make any little mistake and parents get on my case >I had three water bottles in my room and my father told me I was hoarding and proceeded to give me a 30 minute talk on how I should be institutionalised because I "leave water bottles upstairs, I still play videogames at 20, I still haven't had a girlfriend, I forget to take out the trash, and I scratch my head a lot" >those are literally the reasons >he saw me playing video games yesterday and started yelling at me and calling me a manchild that's worse than a drug addict, even though I barely had half an hour of playing >I'm transferring from a cc to a uni next semester, and he wants me to go to the closest one (also the shittiest) so I can live with him and mom >tell him that I'm leaving the county and that I won't live with him >he says: "typical, the moment the kids these days get the opportunity, they abandon their families"
I am a rare case, my parents will move out of the house as soon as I get married, that or I get my grandmas flat(not the most luxurious but very nice still). In order to get married I need a gf first I guess.
>>25958215 >implying American parents love their children Mine tried to kill me in my sleep, anon. Fled to homelessness before I was 16. I'll NEVER know what it's like to have older guardians who love me unconditionally. It's a strange feel, especially since I'm knee deep with normies at the Uni who have mommy and daddy there to pay their bills and wipe their noses when things are scary. Women refuse to go out on dates with me because when they hear about my family they automatically assume I'm the same way as them and too shattered to bother with.
The only comfort is I know how to survive most situations. I don't think I'll ever truly be in trouble to the point where I don't know if I'll survive. I've been through some serious bullshit because of it and feel I'm a stronger person than most of my peers.
>tfw your parents are rich >they give me $10k per month to live "independently" >I can go to their house and live for a year and they won't be bothered >mom is a housewife and dad used to be a petroleum engineer who invests in property >I sit at my own house and code making only $3k per month kek I literally couldn't have asked for anything else still a virgin though
>>25964276 Living with your friends when you're young are the best times of your life. I had roomates all throughout college and a few years afterwards. We were always semi-broke, but there was always enough money for beer or a bottle. Always girls around. Probably went out 5-6 nights a week. These idiots are throwing giving away the best years of their lives to pornography and laziness. They can convince themselves they have it good all they want to, but deep down they know it isn't true m
Having no rules =/= living under your own steam, supporting yourself, taking full responsibility for your life, making your own decisions. If everything is a vote and you're splitting the bills and chores, then absolutely nothing you're doing is independent. It's a group effort.
But you're right, we just don't have the same definition of independence.
>>25964778 We're six siblings too anon excluding me everyone is on the way to becoming as rich as dad However, none of them have any relations with parents when they got good jobs or had set up good businesses after taking money from dad except me, so I guess I'll get all the inheritance kek
>Graduated high school at 16 >Been working since I was 17 >Moved out of my parents place at 23 >Met my current gf at 26 >Got a place together >She's sleeping off her birthday meal on the couch >I'm gunna wake her up in two hours >Gunna carry her to the bedroom >Undress her and shackle her wrists to the head board >Gunna Fuck her like she owes me money >Blast my big (haven't fapped in 3 days) sticky load deep insider her tight pussy
i will never understand this feel because my parents WANT me to come back and live with them. my family is portuguese which are usually family oriented, not to mention my parents like to coddle their kids too much. i just got fired from a job and have to move from where i am now in the sf bay area to the central valley of california to live on one of their rental properties. luckily my parents are lightweight rich and will let me live in that house for super cheap, its definitely not an ideal situation but it is certainly better than living in their actual house.
In my culture parents don't kick you out until you have finished your career, have a stable job and have enough money to actually look out for yourself. Oh and actually they don't kick you out, they ask politely, but in most cases you are the one who make the decision. I'm 22 and I'm studying biotech, but this semester I'm going to work in a project with my uni, the government and a big hospital, so hopefully I can save enough to finally move out :) Oh I forgot... the most common reason why parents kick you out, is because you are having a stupid baby
>>25964277 must be nice, i doubt id even work if i was getting 10k a month. then again i feel pathetic at still having my parents pay for my cell phone and car insurance. i guess its all relative though. most of my friends dont receive as much help from their folks as i did, and they like to act like they are completely self-made and that im spoiled cause my parents bought me a new car and everything, but i think they are also somewhat jealous. and when i look at super rich people they are often completely taken care of by their parents, and why the fuck not? if their parents have millions of dollars of course they are going to have an easy life, their parents would be assholes if they didn't spoil them
>>25965028 i dont know where you live but its super common in major metropolitan areas to rent apts and houses with others well into adulthoood. its super expensive to live on your own. i have a roommate, i actually rather live alone but not enough to pay almost 50% more a month.
I don't live in NYC but are there really that many people 30+ who are still unmarried and living with roommates? I'm not blaming young people for not having the money, I just don't think young people with roommates know what kind of responsibility comes with supporting yourself or your family independently.
>>25965618 He said under his own steam. Idk, it's no big deal. I'm not sure I buy into the idea that people with roomates aren't independent adults though. It's an overly strict, almost pedantic, interpretation of the word. Extrapolated far enough; it wouldn't be hard to demonstrate that no one is truly independent.
>tfw my parents will never kick me out because they know I will commit suicide and even though I'm a failure, losing their son would be the most devestating thing that could happen to them Once my parents and I had a psychologist meeting with an old jewish guy who ordered them to give me $3000 then cut all ties and never speak to me again. For a while they considered it, but then they realized I would end up dead.
Because they expected about two decades of child raising, then you'd move out and they'd get to enjoy their retirement. They didn't expect your selfish fat ass hanging around their house for another 10 years.
>dad talking with uncle in the next room >uncle mentions that my cousin is nearly 25 now and should be moving out into his own place >dad starts to talk real quiet >"Anon is the same, I think we're going to have to talk about him leaving soon." >only 20 >mfw
i wouldn't even mind moving out because i'd probably become roommates with one of my friends but i'm broke as shit.
>>25967008 Exactly. That dude is a little hustler and sees weakness in his parents and exploits it (muh mental illness, threats of suicide). Old Jew saw right through his bullshit and gave the correct advice.
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