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Who's voting for Trump? The establishment hates him and I find that a good sign
Fuck it
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>the establishment hates him
>republican candidate
Fox News pls go
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>>25945283

Fox News hates Trump you stupid cuck.
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>>25945254

I am anon. I even want to be a part of his campaign too. Signed up for some shit on his website and with the GOP but never heard back... hopefully its just too early. Otherwise its a shame, maybe there would be some redpilled qt3.14s there.
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I would if I was American.
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>>25945254
Tough choice. With Sanders you're gurranteed chaos and destruction of the system. On the other Trump could actually fix the shit and make it better. Then again he is a normie so he'd probably be making it better only for the normies. Tbh senpai I'm voting Sanders.
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>>25945254
Voting for the Sandman.

Trump is for neckbeards and libertarian wannabes who don't entirely comprehend absurdism and other wonderful enlightenment philosophies.

>>25945336
Lackluster economic policy isn't qt, Anon.
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>>25945335
So the Republican mouthpiece hates it's front running candidate? Did you just get 10 rupees deposited into your bank account?
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>>25945254
>The establishment hates him

No, the establishment loves him. If they hated him they wouldn't pay any attention to him at all.
Him being "anti-establishment" is another shitty forced meme by the retarded right-wing hipsters of /pol/.
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>>25945441
STOP THAT YOU'RE MAKING ME WANT TO VOTE TRUMP WHEN I WANT TO VOTE SANDERS BECAUSE HE'LL FUCK EVERYTHING UP
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>>25945254
He's a fair candidate and the best one running desu.

I would much rather have Randall-kun as president though, but he has no chance.
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Not voting for anyone desu
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>>25945254
Trump is the first candidate to actually fight for our interests. Everyone else is too afraid of being 'politically incorrect' and expect us to suffer quietly. Trump is going to enact ideas that actually benefit us, like building a wall, banning terrorists, etc.
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>>25945441

What is lackluster? Wanting to bring jobs back to the states? Wanting to lower taxes for the very poor?

Ofc, as a Bernie shill I wouldn't expect you to know much about economics, considering Bernie's policies would devastate America's small businesses that make up the core of its employers. But yeah, elect the guy that will close all of the small town's diners, nail salons, and other little businesses with his asinine minimum wage policy. Very sound.
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>>25945254
trump understands the economy sanders doesn't
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I registered to vote just so I could vote for Trump
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Literally anybody but that criminal cunt Hillary
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>>25945520
I'm sure you did anon.
The entire party was split in half after Obamas second term. The Establishment vs. Grass roots conservative movements.
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>robots voting for trump

literal retards

say good bye to neetbux, but who am I kidding, all of you are merely failed normies that blame others for your shortcomings
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>>25945636

And here you have your average Trump supporter, completely blinded by populism. Trump will surely built that wall! Surely.
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>>25945754

As opposed to being blinded by free gibmedats?
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>>25945718
>implying thre won't be plenty of neetbux over for us when all niggers go
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me2

trump 2016

TRUMP 2016
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I mean yeah it sounds nice, but he's got 0 experience in anything relating to politics. He's never been in any government position.
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>>25945921
He has ran a succesful business and he will have plenty of advisors.
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>>25945649
Oh boy. This Rhetoric.
We have this conversation every day, comrade.

Try actually reading some of his policies before going to such nonsensical rhetoric.

Also for the record. New Yorker here. Grew up with Trump being a role model in our fair city.

I remember a time when he was more liberal than Hillary.

But yeah, Totally. Keynesian Economics has destroyed america time and time again.

Except it was Trickle Down theory and the free market that did.

I understand that you believe that somehow your job was taken away from you by some foreigner whom you've never met, but anon pls.

>>25945636
You know who else isn't politically correct? My drunk grandfather on New Years. Clearly he should be president.

I appreciate your satire; but some people actually think that way ;-;
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>>25945441
No libertarian would vote for trump, (inb4 no true Scotsman) in the GOP Rand Paul is a better pick and outside of the GOP there's an entire fucking party for us, which is the third biggest party in the nation. Trump is no more of a libertarian than Sanders.
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Since I am not some retarded reddit faggot I choose trump. Anybody but barnie.
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>>25945953
That went bankrupt 4 times**

Advisory doesn't mean shit when you don't listen to it.

I love how most people who want to vote for Trump have zero familiarity with the man before 2015

The man's more liberal than Hillary, and he's playing the shit out of the GOP and ofcourse you got /pol/NEETs who just go for it cause he says the most spastic shit on stage that's akin with their world view.
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>>25945921
>You need to be from a corrupt political process in order to operate it
The things borken m8, there's nothing much Trump can make worse.
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niggers and memes aside, who's going to be the next americlap president?
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>>25945697
If you are a candidate of the Democrat or Republican party, you are establishment by default.
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Only a fool could take Trump seriously. Sanders all the way. (If I were american)
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>>25946002
Trump doesn't even have political viewpoints to be honest.

I'm a Libertarian who believes in Collectivism. I love traditional Libertarianism but it's a pipe dream, a nation's citizenry needs to work together.

Libertarianism (Rand Paul) vs Socialism (Sanders) is primarily a philosophical debate, and a fascinating one at that. Collectivism and Libertarianism are both adequate social structures, but Libertarianism is an economic fantasy.
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Voting does not matter.

Elections are no more than a recorded opinion of the masses on the organizations of government over which they possess no positive influence whatsoever.
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Well since the Paul family will always get blacklisted and shut down by the media I guess I'm not voting for anyone. If Hillary or Cruz or Carson or Krispy Kreme make it to the general election I'll vote to vote against them, I guess that would be Trump.
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>>25946122
To be quite honest with you senpai, I don't know nor care about economics, I'm more of a civil libertarian if that makes sense. My job (embedded systems programmer) is theoretically incredibly easy to outsource but it hasn't gotten outsourced because the demand for good programmers is higher than the amount of good programmers in the world. I'm 100% confident I can write neater and cleaner code than 99% of the people living outside of US, Europe, China, Japan, and a few other developed Asian countries, and nobody living in those countries would be cheaper to employ than I would so I'm happy with the economy as it is now.

Whoever values individual liberty (including self-destructive behavior and privacy) the most is who I'm going to vote for.
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>>25945963

>you believe that somehow your job was taken away from you by some foreigner whom you've never met

Oh, so are you ignorant to the facts, or just like to pass lies around?

http://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2014/cb14-130.html

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/american-workers-replaced-foreign-h-1b-workers-file-discrimination

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/06/us/11visa-listy.html?_r=0

Also, what does any of the garbage you've spewed have to do with my post? A $15 minimum wage, one of Bernie's most adamant positions, will devastate small businesses. Nothing you said disproves this. Nothing you've said even relates to this.
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>>25946290

Uh-oh. Someone's disgruntled. I don't think you know how statistics works :( /pol/bois are always so angry.

Also, raising the minimum wage worked out just fine in NYC, and Washington. It's also working out quite well in New England.

So I mean, your argument is cute and all, but it's unprecedented and nonsensical. Raising the minimum wage has benefited small business after the first few quarters.

I don't think your familiar with basic economic theory; Anon.

>>25946252
I work for the military, so obviously I'm going to be voting Sanders. I'm sorry; but no other candidate even gives close to a shit about veterans and other government servants.
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>>25946066

You've never even watched one second of Fox News. You have the political depth of a five year old, and you're probably a libertardian or some retard who takes pride on "being a moderate" AKA taking zero rational positions and having absolutely no cohesive worldview.
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>>25946480
Jeez you're mad. We can tell who you are just by how angry you get. Go back to /pol/

If you're going to have a problem with a political position, try actually bringing up a fact or two. It generally helps in making you not seem totally batshit crazy and/or retarded.

I mean, all this talk about political depth and you watch fox news and shout about how people are wrong by insulting them and getting mad. You're literally a stereotype.
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>>25946594

"dude Fox News doesn't hate Trump, I know, because I know nothing about either of them!"

You've got no argument Bernie-shill. We don't want your gibs here.
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Can anyone name any of his policies beyond building a wall?
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>>25946660
removing kebabs
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Trump finna make anime real nigga
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If you don't vote for Trump you are a normie.
Things Trump hate:
- the internet
- video games
- firearms
- the president not being able to lawfully kill anyone without a trial
- muslims
He is basically a robot with the only difference that he had the will to make an empire from nothing.
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>>25945254
>tfw all these wagecucks

feels good being a neetbro and watching bernie continue to rise in the polls
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>>25946635
Except that I watch all News Sources because watching one is metrically retarded.

I'm sorry, but after Fox won the case in SCOTUS where they dictated that they can effectively lie on air and not have any repercussions, I stopped paying them any mind. I generally like my news to be honest and truthful.

Also Trump is liberal af and not a bad guy. I'm not against him; but Bernie's the better choice for Americans whom, you know; actually work for a living. I understand that, being a NEET you don't grasp that at all, but it is quite important for working people to be encouraged to use their money in an economy that requires it.

Because that's how economies work.

Also how can one argue against a man who can't take a position? lol

Trump just talks about how much he wants to make america great again, and that's basically it.

Can you use actual words or are you confined to /pol/speak?

Are you going to shout Cuck now? lol
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>>25946660
He's gonna deport the admiral ackbars and make America great again. Then he's gonna take us to Chuck Norris place to have a BBQ and crack open a beer.
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>>25945254
Anon from the Baltics trust me socialism doesnt work its a big fat lie.
Source:Lithuania is a shithole because off socialism we can thank russia for that..
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>>25946720
Except a small loan of a million dollars.

>>25946726
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>>25946764
socialism =/= welfare capitalism

pick up a fucking book europoor trash
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>>25946726
>falling for that

I'm still waiting for my paguita.
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>>25946736

>metrically retarded

Lol, okay buddy. I get my news from PBS and the internet, but they literally had a 10 minute Trump bashing session when I turned on Fox News the other day. Trump is outside their control and they hate that.

P.S. you're still a cuck
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Voting Trump because every single television station hates him. Good sign in my book.

Not voting Bernie because his solutions are literally creating more and more bubbles to prop up the others.
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Randlet btfo hernie
>pic related
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>>25946764
What you went through wasn't Socialism and most eastern euros are retardedly nationalistic for no reason. (Probably because authoritarian lefties left a shit taste in their mouth)

Also the Sandman ain't a socialist. There is a massive theoretical difference between Socialism, Democratic Socialism, and Authoritarianism. All Socialism is is a mode of production, and a philosophy, not a political standpoint.

Command Economies (Such as the USSR) are not Socialist.

That's basic economics tho.
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>>25946761
>>25946672
Sick yo he's got 2 whole policies, time to make the united shitstains great again!
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>>25945921
hitler was also just a high-school graduate and a combat scout, yet he made germany great again... until he went full autismo and invaded poland
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>There are robots/neets that think Trump would support their parasitism
How autistic can you get? Enjoy voting for a meme, a facebook-tier one at that.
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>>25946660
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions here you go friendo
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>>25946811
I never said Trump wasn't bashed by fox news; you have me mistaken for someone else, lol.

Also PBS has a hard liberal lean, my friend. How do you not know that?

>>25946836
In Capitalism, you tend to run out of other people's money to exploit too. It's just a matter of getting fucked by a vast array of corporations and other small businesses, or getting somewhat fucked by the government.

Democratic Socialism is all about deciding as the citizenry what your money goes to. But most of you neckbeards never bother to be politically active, so you wouldn't know much about that now would you.
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Hernie voters are deflated
>pic related
>Bernie cadet
>they pay people to shill for hernie
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>>25946920

I know PBS has a hard liberal lean, because I actually watch it. I'm not a malleable simpleton so I can separate what the facts are versus opinions. They still present good news and take it seriously.
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Trump all the way

Anyone who has pissed off liberals as much as he has must be doing something right
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>>25946839
>retardedly nationalistic for no reason.
>Says the american
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>>25946920
>hernie supporter
>is a condescending cunt who most likely posts on /r/sandersforpresident
>thinks donating to a hernie campaign is being politically active
>most people who go to the hernie rallies are fat fedora types and numales
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>>25946998
Yeah dude. PBS ain't bad; I'm more of an NPR man myself, but that's cause I'm a dirty lefty.

You do make a point though, most people who talk shit about various news agencies don't even watch them, rofl.
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>>25946849
Isn't it insane? All he has to do is push the right buttons with some vague rhetoric and everyone is foaming at the mouth to elect him. Kinda shows how abysmal the other candidates are in addition to the gigantic disconnect between the presstitute media and our bloated authoritarian monster of a government. It's gonna 2008 all over again this year. Are you guys ready for more hope and change!!!!!!?? I don't think I can handle anymore hope and change after the hope and change Obama brought!!!!!!!!

>>25946792
>>25946839
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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>>25946057
Most likely Bernie. This is country is way too liberal
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>lefties talk about science
>majority of lefties don't believe in god because it's unscientific
>yet they think boys could turn into girls
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>>25947059
>Kinda shows how abysmal the other candidates are in addition to the gigantic disconnect between the presstitute media and our bloated authoritarian monster of a government
No, the only thing it really shows is how fucking retarded Americans really are.
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>>25947053
I don't even browse reddit, I've done more than donate; lol. I haven't seen a single fedora at any of the rallies here in New England.

I'm just a socially conscious New Englander who works for the government, obviously I'm gonna vote for Bernie. Why is that even a question?

>>25947048
Patriotism =/= Nationalism and both are equally absurd and meaningless.
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>>25947118
Actually we are both right.
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>>25946782
>thinking $1 million isn't a small loan

do you know how I can guess you've never worked in business?
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>>25947124
>Patriotism =/= Nationalism and both are equally absurd and meaningless.
Dumb fucktard liberal detected.. a nation needs Patriotism to survive but i didnt expect any better from a Bernie voter..
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>we are living in a time where our only choices are a celebrity billionaire with a wig, a literal cuck that looks like he's going to drop dead any minute,or a women who's running mate fingered her little sister
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>>25947115
Leftist here here.
Identitarianism isn't Leftism. In fact, Politically speaking, Identitarianism is akin to Nazism. There is no difference in someone who thinks they're special because they're a woman or because they're German. They're both ridiculous notions of identity.

>>25947059
The problem with Capitalism is that it's an economic standpoint built on preindustrialism that bases itself on near infinite wealth from finite resources. It's flawwed in the Endgame. Especially when automated labor replaces the working class. (But that's getting into conspiracy nonsense.)
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>>25947179
OH MAN IM SO SPECIAL CAUSE MY ANCESTORS WERE BORN ON THIS LAND OVER HERE, GOLLY GEE I BELIEVE IN THEM SO MUCH, THAT MUST MAKE ME GOOD PERSON THAT I LOVE THIS DIRT MORE THAN I LOVE OTHER DIRT.

>>25947176
It wasn't in 1973, nigga. Do you even Inflation/historical anecdotes?
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>>25947285
>GOLLY LETS OPEN ALL BORDERS HOORAY FOR ONE DIVERSE WORLD WHERE THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE
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>>25947285
>wasn't in 1973

do you know how I can tell you didn't worked in business in 1973 either?
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>tfw bernie is going to keep my neet bux going strong
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>>25947320
Nations need borders to survive or else they simply wouldn't be nations. I'm not one of those "no-states no-borders" types; but there's more to a Nation than Ethnicity and more to an individual than nationality.

But if you want to get into absurdism, then yes, your special snowflake ethnicity is meaningless and you'll be called by a different ethnic handle in a 1000 years as you were 1000 years ago, lol
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Bernie 2016

It's time to try something new and there's no reason why socialism won't work in post-capitalist society like "america".
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>>25947360
I mean if you're going to get semantical over the word "small" and the word "million" then so be it; but to most working men and women, a million dollars was a lot of money; especially in the 70s.

A million dollars ain't a lot in grand scheme of things, but to just be handed an amount like that? It's pretty gratuitous.
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>>25947228
This graph is using marxist terminology so you know it can be trusted
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>>25947459
>wanting your country to be like china and Canada
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>>25947459
>post-capitalist society

get out reddit retard
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>>25947476
It's accurate, but it's got a heavy leftist bias. There are obviously downsides. (Like the Rise of Authoritarianism in a Perfect communist society)
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>>25947501
>Posting homer simpson, the average American, (fat and retarded) as something to be proud of
CAN'T MAKE THIS UP
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>>25947459
>post-capitalist society

please move to Canada where you pay
7bux for milk
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>>25947573
>please move to Canada where you pay
7bux for milk
lel enjoy your hormone injected corn fed steroid milk that's half soy amerifat
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>>25947565
>Canada
>smart
Dude,weed.
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>>25947573
milk is a loss leader in most places, $4 for 4Litrers
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I know who I'm voting for.

The one who won't water down the value of a degree to nothing by giving us "free education" that will cost tens of trillions of dollars over the course of a mere decade taxing the top income brackets the ridiculous number of 90% won't even cover the bill.

this "free" stuff he's promising has consequences you dumb fuckheads.

He wants to subsidize poverty and tax prosperity and make everyone's life hell in the process for a few years of partying.
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>>25947620
>call someone a fag in Canada
>LBGT police beat you with dildo nightsticks
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>>25947668
Literally none of that is true, read a book.

Also nothing he proposed was even close to "Free"

Have you even bothered reading his proposed policies, or did you just pick up Ayn Rand and Mein Kampf and call it a political philosophy?
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>>25947792
Well I hope I'm wrong and he isn't as insane as I portrayed, but from what I've been seeing his plan involves making things free and passing the bill to tax payers no?
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>>25948000
Nope. And any tax he introduces on the middle class is ultimately beneficial in the end; most citizens would end up saving a few thousand annually, even with a tax increase. The amount we pay for shit like cable, healthcare and otherwise is stupidly high; there is in fact a margin for adjusting and still keeping the economy stable; that's sort of the moderate position the sandman's going for.

Not to mention the estate & speculation taxes he wishes to introduce. A 1% tax on all wall-street gambits and otherwise is actually quite lucrative.

I mean, there's plenty of literature avaliable on the topics with plenty of historical precedents too. My advice is to just read up on his policies instead of believing memes on the internet.

Most of these /pol/types generally don't like reading books and would rather burn them.
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>>25948146

>Not to mention the estate & speculation taxes he wishes to introduce. A 1% tax on all wall-street gambits and otherwise is actually quite lucrative.

wew lad that seems insane
rip wall street
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>>25948146

>speculation taxes
>making a risk have less of a payoff

This is not going to end well for much of the banking and stock sectors.
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>>25948146
Sounds like you're really sold.

Almost like a shill.

I wonder who could behind this post...
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>>25948146
But like I said I'm already voting for trump since I believe in a conservative fiscal solution to government created problems like college debt and the welfare class.
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>>25948328
Probably. But hey; this is the Sandman we're talking about.
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I know the correct /r9k/ choice is sanders, but it's already hard as fuck to get autismbux in the US, and I want Trump to make an America I can work in.
t. Never employed 19 year old
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>>25948516

last time the banking and stocks had major problems it led to the GFC, and the time before that the great depression

bravo sandman
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>>25947476
I just read it
it all makes sense
l2poltheory m8
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>voting for sanders as a straight white middle class male
He's even jewish, how many red flags do you CuCks need?
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>>25946029
>That went bankrupt 4 times**

Hmmmm

> not understanding that bankruptcy can be a useful tool to eliminate creditors and assist your business
> not being smart enough to hire attorneys to use laws to your advantage
> being so stupid you simply repeat lines you've heard hurled as insults, without understanding they shouldn't be insulting in the first place

He didn't simply file chapter 7 personal bankruptcy.

Note: filling for bankruptcy != going bankrupt (but for a layperson, I can understand why that is confusing)
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>>25948771
The bible makes sense too, doesn't make it true.

There is no such thing as capitalism, capitalism is a term that can be made to mean anything so it can be attacked. Communism on the other hand was defined and fabricated and painstakingly instituted to ultimately fail not after causes unmeaserable suffering to humanity.
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>>25947228

>Under communism the working day is defined by the worker
>Under communism every worker has access to an abundance goods
>"Increased productivity means higher unemployment"

are they purposely ignoring history or are they just stupid
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