I am anon. I even want to be a part of his campaign too. Signed up for some shit on his website and with the GOP but never heard back... hopefully its just too early. Otherwise its a shame, maybe there would be some redpilled qt3.14s there.
>>25945254 Tough choice. With Sanders you're gurranteed chaos and destruction of the system. On the other Trump could actually fix the shit and make it better. Then again he is a normie so he'd probably be making it better only for the normies. Tbh senpai I'm voting Sanders.
No, the establishment loves him. If they hated him they wouldn't pay any attention to him at all. Him being "anti-establishment" is another shitty forced meme by the retarded right-wing hipsters of /pol/.
>>25945254 Trump is the first candidate to actually fight for our interests. Everyone else is too afraid of being 'politically incorrect' and expect us to suffer quietly. Trump is going to enact ideas that actually benefit us, like building a wall, banning terrorists, etc.
What is lackluster? Wanting to bring jobs back to the states? Wanting to lower taxes for the very poor?
Ofc, as a Bernie shill I wouldn't expect you to know much about economics, considering Bernie's policies would devastate America's small businesses that make up the core of its employers. But yeah, elect the guy that will close all of the small town's diners, nail salons, and other little businesses with his asinine minimum wage policy. Very sound.
>>25945441 No libertarian would vote for trump, (inb4 no true Scotsman) in the GOP Rand Paul is a better pick and outside of the GOP there's an entire fucking party for us, which is the third biggest party in the nation. Trump is no more of a libertarian than Sanders.
Advisory doesn't mean shit when you don't listen to it.
I love how most people who want to vote for Trump have zero familiarity with the man before 2015
The man's more liberal than Hillary, and he's playing the shit out of the GOP and ofcourse you got /pol/NEETs who just go for it cause he says the most spastic shit on stage that's akin with their world view.
>>25946002 Trump doesn't even have political viewpoints to be honest.
I'm a Libertarian who believes in Collectivism. I love traditional Libertarianism but it's a pipe dream, a nation's citizenry needs to work together.
Libertarianism (Rand Paul) vs Socialism (Sanders) is primarily a philosophical debate, and a fascinating one at that. Collectivism and Libertarianism are both adequate social structures, but Libertarianism is an economic fantasy.
Well since the Paul family will always get blacklisted and shut down by the media I guess I'm not voting for anyone. If Hillary or Cruz or Carson or Krispy Kreme make it to the general election I'll vote to vote against them, I guess that would be Trump.
>>25946122 To be quite honest with you senpai, I don't know nor care about economics, I'm more of a civil libertarian if that makes sense. My job (embedded systems programmer) is theoretically incredibly easy to outsource but it hasn't gotten outsourced because the demand for good programmers is higher than the amount of good programmers in the world. I'm 100% confident I can write neater and cleaner code than 99% of the people living outside of US, Europe, China, Japan, and a few other developed Asian countries, and nobody living in those countries would be cheaper to employ than I would so I'm happy with the economy as it is now.
Whoever values individual liberty (including self-destructive behavior and privacy) the most is who I'm going to vote for.
Also, what does any of the garbage you've spewed have to do with my post? A $15 minimum wage, one of Bernie's most adamant positions, will devastate small businesses. Nothing you said disproves this. Nothing you've said even relates to this.
You've never even watched one second of Fox News. You have the political depth of a five year old, and you're probably a libertardian or some retard who takes pride on "being a moderate" AKA taking zero rational positions and having absolutely no cohesive worldview.
If you don't vote for Trump you are a normie. Things Trump hate: - the internet - video games - firearms - the president not being able to lawfully kill anyone without a trial - muslims He is basically a robot with the only difference that he had the will to make an empire from nothing.
>>25946635 Except that I watch all News Sources because watching one is metrically retarded.
I'm sorry, but after Fox won the case in SCOTUS where they dictated that they can effectively lie on air and not have any repercussions, I stopped paying them any mind. I generally like my news to be honest and truthful.
Also Trump is liberal af and not a bad guy. I'm not against him; but Bernie's the better choice for Americans whom, you know; actually work for a living. I understand that, being a NEET you don't grasp that at all, but it is quite important for working people to be encouraged to use their money in an economy that requires it.
Because that's how economies work.
Also how can one argue against a man who can't take a position? lol
Trump just talks about how much he wants to make america great again, and that's basically it.
Can you use actual words or are you confined to /pol/speak?
Lol, okay buddy. I get my news from PBS and the internet, but they literally had a 10 minute Trump bashing session when I turned on Fox News the other day. Trump is outside their control and they hate that.
>>25946764 What you went through wasn't Socialism and most eastern euros are retardedly nationalistic for no reason. (Probably because authoritarian lefties left a shit taste in their mouth)
Also the Sandman ain't a socialist. There is a massive theoretical difference between Socialism, Democratic Socialism, and Authoritarianism. All Socialism is is a mode of production, and a philosophy, not a political standpoint.
Command Economies (Such as the USSR) are not Socialist.
>>25946811 I never said Trump wasn't bashed by fox news; you have me mistaken for someone else, lol.
Also PBS has a hard liberal lean, my friend. How do you not know that?
>>25946836 In Capitalism, you tend to run out of other people's money to exploit too. It's just a matter of getting fucked by a vast array of corporations and other small businesses, or getting somewhat fucked by the government.
Democratic Socialism is all about deciding as the citizenry what your money goes to. But most of you neckbeards never bother to be politically active, so you wouldn't know much about that now would you.
>>25946920 >hernie supporter >is a condescending cunt who most likely posts on /r/sandersforpresident >thinks donating to a hernie campaign is being politically active >most people who go to the hernie rallies are fat fedora types and numales
>>25946849 Isn't it insane? All he has to do is push the right buttons with some vague rhetoric and everyone is foaming at the mouth to elect him. Kinda shows how abysmal the other candidates are in addition to the gigantic disconnect between the presstitute media and our bloated authoritarian monster of a government. It's gonna 2008 all over again this year. Are you guys ready for more hope and change!!!!!!?? I don't think I can handle anymore hope and change after the hope and change Obama brought!!!!!!!!
>>25946792 >>25946839 The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
>>25947059 >Kinda shows how abysmal the other candidates are in addition to the gigantic disconnect between the presstitute media and our bloated authoritarian monster of a government No, the only thing it really shows is how fucking retarded Americans really are.
>>25947124 >Patriotism =/= Nationalism and both are equally absurd and meaningless. Dumb fucktard liberal detected.. a nation needs Patriotism to survive but i didnt expect any better from a Bernie voter..
>we are living in a time where our only choices are a celebrity billionaire with a wig, a literal cuck that looks like he's going to drop dead any minute,or a women who's running mate fingered her little sister
>>25947115 Leftist here here. Identitarianism isn't Leftism. In fact, Politically speaking, Identitarianism is akin to Nazism. There is no difference in someone who thinks they're special because they're a woman or because they're German. They're both ridiculous notions of identity.
>>25947059 The problem with Capitalism is that it's an economic standpoint built on preindustrialism that bases itself on near infinite wealth from finite resources. It's flawwed in the Endgame. Especially when automated labor replaces the working class. (But that's getting into conspiracy nonsense.)
>>25947179 OH MAN IM SO SPECIAL CAUSE MY ANCESTORS WERE BORN ON THIS LAND OVER HERE, GOLLY GEE I BELIEVE IN THEM SO MUCH, THAT MUST MAKE ME GOOD PERSON THAT I LOVE THIS DIRT MORE THAN I LOVE OTHER DIRT.
>>25947176 It wasn't in 1973, nigga. Do you even Inflation/historical anecdotes?
>>25947320 Nations need borders to survive or else they simply wouldn't be nations. I'm not one of those "no-states no-borders" types; but there's more to a Nation than Ethnicity and more to an individual than nationality.
But if you want to get into absurdism, then yes, your special snowflake ethnicity is meaningless and you'll be called by a different ethnic handle in a 1000 years as you were 1000 years ago, lol
>>25947360 I mean if you're going to get semantical over the word "small" and the word "million" then so be it; but to most working men and women, a million dollars was a lot of money; especially in the 70s.
A million dollars ain't a lot in grand scheme of things, but to just be handed an amount like that? It's pretty gratuitous.
The one who won't water down the value of a degree to nothing by giving us "free education" that will cost tens of trillions of dollars over the course of a mere decade taxing the top income brackets the ridiculous number of 90% won't even cover the bill.
this "free" stuff he's promising has consequences you dumb fuckheads.
He wants to subsidize poverty and tax prosperity and make everyone's life hell in the process for a few years of partying.
>>25948000 Nope. And any tax he introduces on the middle class is ultimately beneficial in the end; most citizens would end up saving a few thousand annually, even with a tax increase. The amount we pay for shit like cable, healthcare and otherwise is stupidly high; there is in fact a margin for adjusting and still keeping the economy stable; that's sort of the moderate position the sandman's going for.
Not to mention the estate & speculation taxes he wishes to introduce. A 1% tax on all wall-street gambits and otherwise is actually quite lucrative.
I mean, there's plenty of literature avaliable on the topics with plenty of historical precedents too. My advice is to just read up on his policies instead of believing memes on the internet.
Most of these /pol/types generally don't like reading books and would rather burn them.
> not understanding that bankruptcy can be a useful tool to eliminate creditors and assist your business > not being smart enough to hire attorneys to use laws to your advantage > being so stupid you simply repeat lines you've heard hurled as insults, without understanding they shouldn't be insulting in the first place
He didn't simply file chapter 7 personal bankruptcy.
Note: filling for bankruptcy != going bankrupt (but for a layperson, I can understand why that is confusing)
>>25948771 The bible makes sense too, doesn't make it true.
There is no such thing as capitalism, capitalism is a term that can be made to mean anything so it can be attacked. Communism on the other hand was defined and fabricated and painstakingly instituted to ultimately fail not after causes unmeaserable suffering to humanity.
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