What the fuck is wrong with you people.
You're literally bragging about how fucked up and broken you are, but from years of browsing this board only about ~10% of you have intentions of doing anything about that. Why dont you want to change your lives? Why?
The world won't let us change. There are too many rules, regulations and societal conventions that hold us down. We can only make the best out of our situation and unleash our spite on this shitty world in small ways.
>hehe jus B urself brah
>jus stop being mentally ill brah works 4 me
normalfags are incapable of empathising with people who aren't themselves normal. you have demonstrated this time and time again.
A better question: why do you come here? What do you get out of ruining our board? By the way your taste in interior decor is fucking awful.
We're not bragging, the general consensus is that the more "fucked up" you are then the more of a right you have to post. Seeing people come on here with minor problems makes us feel like shit because we're much worse than them naturally. A lot of the people here are kissless virgins so to see a normalshit come on here asking for advice on a problem with his girlfriend bothers us.
Also, you can't choose how much of a will you have to change things. We can't manually set our dopamine levels, etc.
>wanting to be a normie wagecuck
hahaha. i'd sooner live the life i already live with one hand cut off.
anyone who wants to be anything other than NEET seriously have mental disorders.
>the more "fucked up" you are then the more of a right you have to post
Why do they find this so hard to understand. All we wanted was one space where we could just be left alone and talk to people with similar issues to us.
Watch this, anon. It's short.
A lot of robots should, but your post struck me.
Standard Disclaimer: I'm a normie, I hold down a full time job, have a gf, have friends, have had sex with multiple people, live on my own, have a good relationship with my parents etc. etc.
So my actual experience is somewhat limited but I would hazard it has something to do with this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
With the normie disclaimer out of the way I have failed- a lot. I didn't get my first irl friend until I was 16 or 17. I didn't get my first real gf until I was 21. And up until those points I had a lot of false starts and promising relationships that went to shit for one reason or another. I literally burned through five different jobs in the past year for one reason or another.
I was addicted to mouthwash for a period of time. I would get black out drunk on a nightly basis by myself in a little rented out basement room.
I'm in a comfortable place right now but its because I kept trying and trying and trying. I also have had tremendous amounts of support from my amazing family and the few friends that I do have.
I can totally understand why someone would choose to just give up at some point.
Normies ruin everything. This is essentially what they've done to the internet. It was the only refuge for recluses and they've made it into a plastic theme park of conformity and rule of the popular.
It's a shame you didn't pick up on anything then.
Consider this OP,
decades ago going to university guaranteed you a job, so societies answer to poverty was for everyone to go to college. now that most people go to college, it no longer guarantees you work in fact you are worse off due to the dept, the goal post has been moved to getting a masters degree in a stem field, and if everyone did that the master stem degree would be rendered useless and goalpost moved once more, and it will continue to do so, there is no end to it.
What I'm trying to say is there is no point to it, if everyone went and fixed their lives and got the things necessary to have a good life, and a good GF then the standards to get a good life and good GF will simply increase in response and immediately become out of reach of the people who went and did that.
what you are asking from us is a Sisyphean task.
Man, I don't want to be like "REEE NORMIE" but that sounds relatively normie.
I've only had one real GF and I was 23 when I met her, and now I'm 30 and haven't gotten with a girl since 2008, and yet /r9k/ will probably call me a norme because I'm not a KHV.
these people are fucking pathetic. I blame a combination of single mothers, liberal politics, and the video game, psychology and pharmaceutical industries.
Half of these huckster assholes need to be forced into the Army and be done with it.
Don't know why, but any sense of will and want of improvement is always seen as bad.
I know old r9k wasn't like that.
>a fit social recluse virgin is more of a normalfag than a drug using person with friends who has had sex.
>people can't choose to be alone.
>wanting your fellow robots to discover hobbies and be healthy is bad.
>People don't understand r9k is just a masked version of the worst tumblr
Yeah, keep talking about "normies" can't understand you! And this "roasties" are controlling society right now? Or Chad and Lamar are in charge? Phew, I thought it was the white-cis-men-amerika-europe-please-give-me-a-dick-i-am-a-feminist were in charge!
Enjoy your life knowing that the only place when you convinced yourself you are okay is basically a feminist board owned by males who thinks they aren't as bad as feminists. gg no re, lik kuks
go fap to bestiality porn and formulate some more pseudoscentific theories abut 'robots'.
Just s.mh. Do you retards have fathers? If so, are they pathetic cucks? You are not men.
>>a fit social recluse virgin is more of a normalfag than a drug using person with friends who has had sex.
2008-2009 r9k the established requirements to being a normalfag was having had a gf or sex, that was it.
no more ,no less.
it was only after faggot kept trying to change the definition so they were not included in it so they could gentrify r9k did that change.
>go to a job interview today
>shave,shower 2 times,clean clothes
>copy all of my documents so i look prepared
>they ask whats the position that im applying for
>i cant remember
Im literally retarded anon
Im doomed to fail
i do what to change my life, i just have no idea what the fuck to do to make myself more attractive to women
i hate doing social situations. i have no hobbies or passions, everything seems like a chore. at least i can manage to make myself lift 4-5x a week. other than that i just work
Some people just dont realize most of us were born with limited intellectual capacity.
Your life is pretty much determined at birth and there is very little you can do to change it. Its all about looks and intelligence, 2 major factors that determine your life.
For most of us change is impossible and we are doomed for life.
wow you have a menial office job! I'm so impressed. And it's Friday, you're free for two whole days! Now, I know you don't get paid much, be careful not to spend all your wage in one night!
also I forgot to /thread
gg no re again cu... emh, I mean, "robots"
>Nigga, I'm siting at my desk at work,
Wew we have a mad wageslave everybody
How many more hours till your shift is done, slave?
>Its all about looks and intelligence, 2 major factors that determine your life.
>tfw at least average in looks and actually high IQ
>but schizoid and possibly aspergers so i hide from people and never progress
>doesn't want to change
Are you honestly confused by that or just pretending to be retarded to start "debate"? The normalfag life doesn't appeal to us. Sure, being this way may suck sometimes, but being lonely and bored is better than dealing with the bullshit a normalfag would have to constantly deal with for most of us.
And the funny thing is when i was like 14 when my parents were going trough a very bad divorce i went trough a lot of testing and shit and they said that there is nothing wrong with me and that i have above average inteligence
I just keep fucking up so i dont know
Thank god i wasnt fucked in the looks department but im still a friendless virgin
I forgot the pic
>inb4 heh le normies are stupid
why should we?
>get fucked up from environmental or genetic factor outside of your control
>treated like shit and ostracized your entire life because of said uncontrollable factor
>see human's true nature and disgusted by it
>still expected to put forward an EXTREME amount of effort to get healthier and better but never fully healed
why the fuck would we put ourselves through that so we can conform to the ideals and conventions by the people who have shit on us our entire lives for things we had no control over? why?
It's hard. I'm trying my best to look good, act friendly, be social and so on. However, it doesn't look like you can just become socially adept unless you specifically spend years learning it from the scratch. I starting to feel sick when I'm around people, and it makes me want to avoid them even more.
Then it's hygiene, looks and so on. It's hard to look after yourself everyday when you know no one really cares. If you don't surround yourself with people, why try? I'm not saying I'm constantly soaked in shit, it's just I don't feel it's worth the effort. Plus, the fear of attracting more attention plays a factor.
Being socially inept sucks, it prevents from finding a girlfiend, finding a job, and, in the end, becoming more social. It's a cycle of doom.
Yes, addiction and lazyness also plays factor, but one just doesn't have the strength to change so many fucked up things in his life. It's too much effort for little reward.
I hope I covered up most of it
see this >>25938908
r9k = tumblr
neet, mgtows and "robots" = tumblr users and feminists
>le anon is so funny and sarcastic
No, I'm not
Are you comparing yourself to a nigger who has nothing else to do but be poor and spread aids? While you also happen to have internet access? Why would you lower yourself to their level?
You act as if you are incapable of learning something like they are.
OP i might have written a post like this many years ago, i even went to /adv/ and read self help. you cannot possibly understand until you're here.. how can i explain this feel? it'd be like trying to explain a new color to you
Am I bragging? I don't think I am. I'm venting. I have no other outlet or person to talk to besides a therapist, so I talk to like-minded people on the internet. I don't think it's ever been bragging.
But what race? Religious? Educational level?If none of that matters I advise you to suck up whatever prejudices you may have against religion and go to your local church.
>I advise you against muslims.
Please specify a bit more if you want something more tailored to your needs.
I'm sensing a lot of frustration coming from you both. Tell me about your relationship with your father.
>Implying robots aren't the massa
>Implying there is a difference between normies and robots
>Implying they are not 12 in dick and mind
Trust me anon, you have been lied to. If your intelligence was high, you would have succeded in life, you would be stuck here with us.
For me intelligent people are good in social situations, they are competent in and successful in what they do.
I was being told I'm intelligent my whole life, but when I look at it: I'm poor, unemployed, no friends, no gf, nothing. That not how intelligent man shouold live.
So growing up I realized I was just incredibly stupid, with a very limited intellectual capacity.
Whatever I tried to do was a complete failure.
So trying to change for better when you are stupid is just a complete waste of time.Once you come to terms with the fact that you are a complete idiot, your life becomes great, you have zero expectation and you will never get dissappointed. You just eat and sleep untill you die and thats it.
b-but its so easy
YOU JUST FOLLOW THE CHART
just beeeeeee urself senpai ;^)
Notice normalfags will dodge this question everytime. At most they will say "to laugh at u fukn losers lmao". If they're so happy, why do they need to put other people down to feel better about themselves?
>But what race?
white is probably best. i live in florida so it's about half white here
i am not religious but so long as it's not really important to her it's not a big deal. there's plenty of christians who believe in god but don't really act any differently or go to church, that wouldn't bother me.
>Educational level?If none of that matters I advise you to suck up whatever prejudices you may have against religion and go to your local church.
yeah education isn't so important but do you really think it's a good idea to pretend to be christian just to get girls?
i've only even met 3 muslims before they don't really exist around here. our minorities are mestizos and negroes
I can sense your anguish. Let the hatred flow through you. One of us. One of us. One of us.
> why the fuck would we put ourselves through that so we can conform to the ideals and conventions by the people who have shit on us our entire lives for things we had no control over
> one just doesn't have the strength to change so many fucked up things in his life. It's too much effort for little reward
> being lonely and bored is better than dealing with the bullshit a normalfag would have to constantly deal with for most of us
damn some fucking truth bombs gettin dropped on OP right now
I get nothing out of "improving" myself. It's all meaningless. All of it. I derive no pleasure from life in general and the few things I do enjoy to distract myself with are becoming fewer and fewer.
So, given that there are no rewards to living the life of a normie, why should I do it? What do I get out of it?
Not OP but I would consider myself a robot who wants other robots to be happy, as they still rely on external sources for hapiness.
Being healthy, independent, and fulfilled with hobbies you enjoy is a good feeling.
Literally be yourself without any gay social justice shit like MGTOW.
All the normies who claim that they "improved" themselves and suddenly became a whole different person are just that, normies. They were always normal, just lazy. Self-improvement is a meme for the robots. See >>25937317
Man, people who makes this posts aren't "normies", are people trying to get out of here.
Have you ever suffer from withdrawal symptom? It's hard to get out from heroin, you feel like hell, the reward comes after.
Anyway a tripfag once explained why he was still here, he said that back in 2009 robots were his only friends so he came back to help them as some kind of reward.
Yeah, re how much you want
I've so many fucking issues with this pic. Tier 1 is fine, but wtf, look at that shit in tier 2. Meditation, journaling, writing down goals like a faggot. The exercise part makes sense, but lifting weights? Are you serious? The only point in lifting weights is either for sports as in training for a better performance or while looking at yourself in the mirror getting your dick hard while thinking about fucking yourself. Tier 3 just assumes that if I study a job will fall onto my lap by just being myself(just like a gf) somehow studying, lifting weights and meditating helped me to talk to new people, who share 0 of the same interests as me what so ever and trips are not expensive at all. And the learn a foreign language is golden to me, it's obvious it was made by a fucking anglo. But I guess that I should learn one of the normie approved languages otherwise it doesn't count speaking in my native tongue.
I have been playing Dota 2 since 2007. have 3000+ hours on it. My MMR is 2600 which is equal to noob players who are just starting the game.
If you are not capable of being good at something that you have been doing for 8 years, that means you were bor with a limited intellectual capacity- in other words Im an idiot.
The only thing that would help me is a brain transplant.
Just like children in africa who are born unfortunate, there is nothing I can do.People like to think they have control over their lives, which is bullshit.
Just read the book "The sports gene" and you will know what Im talking about.
I recommend you try to get into Christianity, just don't be so cuck about the turning the other check thing. If you don't feel comfortable adopting a religion, then look into classes at a local institution and see if you can hit it off with a female there, keeping in mind no one is perfect and that you will be facing rejection and possible heartbreak, Chad is a meme.
>pretend to follow religion.
I would want you to believe it best case scenario.
Always keep in mind to look for women in areas you yourself are comfortable in.
>club sluts are always a bad idea.
the pic is pretty retarded but meditation is probably the best thing there because it trains your brain to be more present in the moment so you dont get caught up in your head when talking to people in real life, like with anxiety or whatever.
>I have been playing Dota 2 since 2007. have 3000+ hours on it. My MMR is 2600 which is equal to noob players who are just starting the game.
>Just like children in africa who are born unfortunate, there is nothing I can do.People like to think they have control over their lives, which is bullshit.
I think you'll find your wage is already funding my tendies with or without your permission normalscum
>but lifting weights? Are you serious?
How about looking god? Feeling good? There are also lots of hot girls at the gym, who already share a hobby with you.
But, what I am thinking, how could it compare to vidya?
>meditation is probably the best thing there because it trains your brain to be more present in the moment so you don't get caught up in your head when talking to people in real life, like with anxiety or whatever.
what kind of a health guru was your mother banging when you were young? I mean if you're the kind of faggot that's into that kind of shit then sure. But it's a normie picture, it doesn't say instead of meditation do something that helps you relax. Like it says exercise, I mean someone can't possibly be happy doing some other thing right? It doesn't say get a hobby because hobbies can be sitting at home programming all day long and that's not the way of the normies.
Did you even read my whole post?
>The only point in lifting weights is either for sports as in training for a better performance or while looking at yourself in the mirror getting your dick hard while thinking about fucking yourself
I barely play games, I like to programme, read about general facts that no one gives a shit about and then smoke a couple of spliffs with my friends.
its not about relaxing its about clearing your mind of any thought so when your in a social situation you can use the same technique so yo udont get caught up in your head, its actually not relaxing its hard to sit there and just not think about anything it takes effort to do it everyday, im much more relaxed eating fast food and drinking beer while watching seinfeld
Weight training (along with strecthing) is actually really important, especially as you get older. You don't suddenly develop good habits when you're 50.
But how could it compare with video games, drugs, and sitting in your basement reading about shit no one cares about?
I don't get cognitively depleted quickly from shitposting. Some people have more willpower than others. If this wasn't the case, then nobody would be addicted to smoking for example.
How can you judge these people negatively and then go and list some of the ultimate causes why they're that way? You hold them in contempt and act as if they're to blame for not meeting your arbitrary standard of acceptable but then list some of the external reasons that influenced them, which implies it isn't their fault. For the record, I don't think liberal politics, internet porn and video games are the ultimate reasons for why these people are like this, I think it's genetics, but either way it's a reason beyond the individual's control and therefore the individual cannot be held morally culpable. You have no reason to judge us.
>Yeah because we should be working hard despite getting dealt a shitty hand, right?
Yes, that's exactly right. That's the attitude that has pushed man forward from the fucking caves. It's what gives you a sense of purpose and progress in life. That's 100% on the mark.
I lost your train of thoughts
so your answer is that in a social setting you go blank
yeah I mean it's not like I said exercise is good, I mean how can swimming or cycling even compare to looking at the mirror with your hard dick lifting a weighted stick.
>I think it's genetics, but either way it's a reason beyond the individual's control and therefore the individual cannot be held morally culpable.
Nah that's just flat out wrong. Everyone has the ability to adapt and to adopt new attitudes.
I get the impression you frequent bodybuilding forums, read broscience and clickbait articles about self-improvement. If so, then you are self-indulgent and therefore morally inferior to me.
So let met get this straight. We got dealt a shitty hand. Normies have been attacking, bullying and tormenting us since we were young. If we work hard, we will never get the same kind of results as Chad. But even despite that you expect us to work for you? For your dirty normie society? Are you that arrogant?
lol you can't correlate those two things, thats a complete logical fallacy, I don't know your story and you dont know mine, but obviously your life wasn't that bad if you have 0 empathy for others situations because you would know.
>That's the attitude that has pushed man forward from the fucking caves
yes because the ones that were on the lowest rungs in the caves were the ones making technological advancements and wanting to do anything, you can say the same thing about going to the moon but there were plenty of druggies in the 60s who did nothing to contribute to that and probably had fucked up lives.
The thing is, people like me and probably a lot of people in this bored would have been naturally selected out of the gene pool in the days of hunter gatherers but now in modern society we have safety nets for people like us and food is readily available.
You don't know what its like to be dealt a shitty hand at life, there will always be janitors and trash collectors and other low level jobs, not everybody gets to succeed or be happy in life, welcome to the real world
no because the only way to become present to the moment is to focus on things outside of yourself, like the setting or the person your talking to and make observations and let words flow through you naturally instead of trying to think of something to say. I don't know how to do this lol im sure its extremely difficult but ive done a lot of research into it and done a decent amount of meditation to realize that it is possible
Its about being dealt paralyzing circumstances in life and then realizing that you only remain in that state of mind as long as you convince yourself you are too weak too make something happen about it. This life is about overcoming ourselves not the world. What can the world do to our sense of self if we no longer allow it to affect the perception we have on who we are. If you cannot exist in normal society because of a lack of relation to other people, learn to love yourself and people will see this. We think we have it hard in this current world, go back a few hundred years when you were a hell of a lot more likely to get killed walking down the road then you are walking into a college or workplace and taking the initiative to build a life for yourself. To blame others for you problems is to admit that you have no power over yourself. Not having a girlfriend isn't grounds for blaming society and saying that every one are slaves to the system. Not slaves, just willing to work hard for the things we truly desire in life.
I like how you say you don't know me and turn around and make all kinds of unfounded assumptions about my life. I'm not even going to address them because I don't have to prove myself to you. The truth is people like you learned to adapt and become stronger. Some died but that's life. You keep acting like the situation you're in is because of some genetic fuckery that you have no control over but that's just an ego protection mechanism. It's a way for you to avoid facing that you're a coward who isn't even willing to fight for his own life because he's too comfortable bullshitting the years away on 4chan. Also there are happy janitors and trash collectors. Not everyone hangs their happiness or contentment on the unrealistic desire of wanting to be THE BEST. Robots flat out imply that if they can't be "Chad" is isn't even worth trying. What a ridiculous sentiment.
Most of these guys are just trying to fit in by acting dumber than they are. Real life virgins don't want to talk about sex because that would be a reminder of something they don't like. Really depressed people (mostly older women) pretend that everything is fine or just check out of society rather than moan on social media vaguely.
Before Reddit this board was just for advice and tripfag drama. The spaghetti memes were funny but we didn't actually put spaghetti in our pockets. Now the truly lazy man children here are just what you'd expect, just mentally retarded. You can't help them and they don't understand the difference between development and luck. If you didn't give them so much attention they wouldn't try so hard to convince you of anything because their ignorance is their bliss. There's no life more convenient than that of a retarded kid, and they don't have the urge to do something with their lives like we do.
>What a ridiculous sentiment.
Not him, but why is it ridiculous? Chad is gonna be more succesful, have more money, more happiness, pretty much everything. Just for getting lucky. While me? I would have to work extremely hard to get a fraction of his success. Why should I accept this?
I get that other than suicide there isn't much of a choice. I mean in the end, we're gonna have to. I'd just really like to know how. How to deal with it without being hateful and envious of anyone who got luckier than me. Can't seem to do that, because only "argument" you hear from normies here is either peer pressure, insults, pussy blackmail(do X or you will stay a virgin) and similar normie shenanigans.
To have any success at all. And it doesn't really take any more work than you already commit to shit posting or playing games. It's just a shift in priorities. I'm not someone who thinks you should get better, and I understand why you want to just waste your life. Some people are just there to be used by others.
>Some people are just there to be used by others.
That's my problem exactly. Someone inferior likely got bullied, is hated or at least not respected. But despite that, he keeps trying and working hard to fit in with the normies, who consider him to be second-grade. Do you not think that means being used?
Intelligence is semi-linked to genetics. Apparently people who wear glasses are on average have higher IQs because people around them assume they're smarter so they adopt that role.
The majority of how your personality, work ethic, intelligence ect is expressed through epigenetics & environmental experience.
Life isn't determinate, but is plastic.
The real problem is how toxic western culture is.
Yeah I failed to mention that, because most people really aren't going to do that. I guess it still helps the normies since they don't have to deal with you, but I guess it's prefferable to either killing yourself or betaproviding/wagekucking combo. Although there are many practical problems involved.
I did this, I don't understand how you wouldn't do this, unless you are a failed normie who needs people to live.
>only less extreme version where I work, because I need to eat.
>hobbies and fitness keep you busy.
Idk what you're referring to because most kids who got bullied in school either found their own groups as adults or did end up fitting in. As kids people really are all over the map because puberty hits at drastically different times and everyone is forced into the same classes unless you were smart or rich.
I'm saying "being used" in the context that people like you are just consumers. Even better for everyone else that you don't want to compete for certain things.
Well I'm saying being used in the sense that you work hard and provide society with something despite getting very little back compared to Chad. Or even getting outright hated if they think you're not providing enough. And honestly being used the way I mentioned seems to me much more humiliating than being used the way you mentioned. Don't you think?
I'm afraid if I keep wagecucking, I'm gonna cave and end up with some post-wall bitch when I'm older. I'm 23 now so who knows, maybe I will get more lonely as I get old and join the beta providing ranks. I mean obviously I wouldn't want to, but who knows what another 5 years will do to me. My point was that being around people(wagecucking) will make this more likely. Only chance is to get as jaded and bitter as possible. That's what I'm working on.
I also got born short, ugly and with a small dick, so despite trying no woman wants anything to do with me. While my "friend" who isn't short and isn't ugly gota girlfriend while playing counter strike. So yeah, not worth the effort if you're inferior.
Oh, it's this thread again. Let me tell you how it's gonna progress.
>come in saying how fucked up we are
>start throwing insults, say it's tough love, I'm trying to actually help you
>get more and more aggressive as posts go on
>end up going full postal and telling us to off ourselves
Let's see how it's gonna go.
>Why should I accept this?
What's option B? Sitting alone in your basement getting fat and masturbating? Life isn't black and white, most people live their lives in the grey. Grow up.
That way at least I won't be supporting this fucked up notion that inferiors have to work their ass off and get nothing in return. It won't change anything, but at least I know, I'm not part of the problem.
>don't you think?
I wouldn't know because that doesn't happen anywhere I have worked or studied. If people genuinely tried and made progress they got respect. Maybe in New York it's different?
Comparing the meanings of being used here doesn't even make sense. Do you argue just to argue? I said I'm more than happy to accept that some people should stay out of everyone else's way and enjoy a simple carefree life. Maybe you're right that despite all efforts you'd still humiliate yourself. At any rate it makes life easier for everyone when you scale that up in wealthy countries
I don't want to be around anyone, I don't blame anyone, I know I am spoiled, quit giving me a lecture
All of my problems come from my laziness, and I know it
What do you want to prove here?
>Maybe in New York it's different?
Why New York? Is this a saying I'm not getting? I'm from eastern europe, so I really don't know.
Also at this point, for me it isn't even about going out of everyones way. I just want to spite the normies. And to tell what I've said here to as many inferior people as possible. So they can stop being used. They probably won't care. Most of them anyways, but that's life, right?
At that point I'm going to commit sudoku. And I won't regret it one bit. Knowing I've lived my life spiting the normies who got lucky. Leeching off them and never giving anything back.
The point was, he didn't quit at the first sign of hardship.
I he thought like you guys do, at the first sign of failure he would have retreated to the basement resigned to a life of vidya and degenerate pornography.
Not him, but I belief all robots can come to term with it. Whether they go hermit mode like me and spend time improving themselves or acting like a normal instead of a failed one, could be they just want to wallow in their misery.
No one's proving anything but you aren't the center of the world, neither am I.
Ignore self improvement threads and let people change themselves.
If you wish I can list all my faults to make you feel better.
Should we not be envious though? Is your only argument that it's unattractive? Even though he does get things easily thanks to luck. Do you think we should not be envious of that? It makes sense to me.
Well I don't know. Lots of people bitch about parasites. About so called "herbivore" men, about singles, or just about NEETs who live off welfare. I think they know and honestly normies seem to be pissed off a lot. Also there is always more to do, rather than just passively leeching off.
But he got something easily and for pretty much nothing. I didn't. Why should I not be angry about that? Should I not be angry about this injustice? Is your only argument "HURR GURLS DUNT LIEK DIS" since that's just pussy blackmail once again.
>or just about NEETs who live off welfare.
You're going to have a tough time doing that if you're a white male w/ no kids.
You don't piss us off. Maybe the blacks who have made a culture of it. But just a failed pathetic white guy? Honestly, we pity you.
You pity me for not wanting to work my ass off for you? Now that's pretty strange, but whatever works for you. It's pretty easy to get welfare honestly. Maybe for some kind of mental disease? Shit's easy.
people more often have a bad view of welfare and the leeching, not the actual people. To most people you don't even count as human or intelligent, and the bitching is like yelling at a dog who shit on the floor. I mean you might even be a dog who makes someone in particular miserable around you no doubt, but you don't really spite anyone for being one. People just learn to make more for themselves.
Well I do want something, but I'm not gonna work towards it when growing up to be few inches taller or having slightly different bone structure could have meant getting it much more easily.
It's 3:45am on the weekend, this is my free time, I can sit here and whatever I want. Besides, I don't blame genetics or free will, my situation is a result of my actions and the way I respond to other people's actions.
>To most people you don't even count as human or intelligent
That's not very different from being an ugly manlet.
So you think that genes don't affect your life in a major way? Intelligence? Height? Frame. Also obviously family wealth and influence(this one is not genes but can make a huge difference imo). You think this doesn't matter? If it does, then it's the truth.
Not really. Try getting a loving partner(you can't really be loved unless you're a Chad), a decent life(yes money does come into this equation), being respected in the community(the inferior men who work for the community are considered expendable slaves). There is so much more so stop your assumptions.
>Envy is good, instead of letting it consume you develop a sense of greed/want or pride
I could but that. but throw in a work ethic.
Hey robots, why are guys who have it so easy outworking you?
Why don't you have straight A's? Why don't you have a six pack?
Well this usually kills the thread but.
>no social life.
Some otherthings I could go on about, just because life is a little hard doesn't mean you shouldn't try.
Make do with what you have and learn to accept somethings in life are out of your control.
You could easily argue I could have much more success as a white male but there is no point in dwelling on what ifs?
>So you think that genes don't affect your life in a major way? Intelligence? Height? Frame. Also obviously family wealth and influence(this one is not genes but can make a huge difference imo). You think this doesn't matter? If it does, then it's the truth.
There are millions of people who are successful who started from humble beginnings.
You're not as smart as you think you are, and you can't rhetoric your way around hard work.
Yeah because being treated like shit since you get born tends to make people bitter and angry. So it goes like this. A human gets born, by the time he gets to school people around him start bullying him for things out of his control. After some years of this bullying the kid becomes bitter, angry and possibly violent. People now think their bullying got retroactively justified due to the kid being bitter, angry and possibly violent.
Funny how you say it's basic. Point is for many people here it's not basic. It sure as hell isn't for me.
I'd like an example. For most people who are succesful you can tell what made them succesful. Like smart/succesful parents, wealthy family. A great talent. It's usually not hard work, it could be luck for some of them.
>For most people who are succesful you can tell what made them succesful. Like smart/succesful parents, wealthy family. A great talent. It's usually not hard work
W/o hard work, none of those advantages are going to matter.
There are PLENTY of ne're-do-well rich kids too. There are PLENTY of higschool QBs working at Home Depot. Grow up.
Not in America, I meet and work with people taller than me constantly. Why should it bother me?
I do have to compensate the standard manlet ways, but I don't act like it's the end of the world.
>mfw OP is the only one getting mad in the thread
every one of these pitiful robots i see posting are so quick to mention that they are in their position because of something outside their control. By constantly blaming all your problems on something that was "out of your control" you just keep further justifying why you fail when and if you try. you are making excuses for yourself to justify an existence where you dont have to worry about failure. you are insecure and lazy. if you actually put some effort into your life you wouldnt be where you are today.
Luckily, people with a full brain don't dismiss reality for the sake of their social mythology. The reality being that "myself," whatever that is, is in feedback with others and the world and that there are a lot of ways that can manifest, depending on the makeup of all those things. It's interesting because the "you need more willpower" and the "I'm nothing more than DNA" both miss the mark, because they're both theories about only one thing in isolation (willpower being "people are independent of the world" and genetics being "the world is the only actor") but I feel like the willpower theory is more half-baked.
Things that are out of your control determine your life much more than things you can control. Imagine you want to make a chicken, but the meat you have is rotten and smelly. You think you can make it taste good by seasoning the sauce better or making more potatoes?
In case you didn't understand. Things you can't change <=> meat. Because that's the important thing, the backbone. Things you can change <=> everything else.
You idiots act like you have to be born looking like Brad Pitt to have a productive life. Again, adults can see right through you're jive. You're really just lazy, spoiled, and entitled.
the alternative is living the pathetic life you live now, always wishing it was easier.
it wont get easier. get over it and do something about it. if you refuse, I have no pity for you. no one else is going to wipe baby's ass for the rest of his life, so either help yourself or flounder.
I did. My height was the day I was born(I was not malnourished while growing up), so was my looks(facial structure), so was my intelligence and other things. These things make you rotten(inferior). And thanks to that people treat you like shit. After that, two things can happen. You accomodate yourself so that the people who treated you like shit and bullied you like you more. You do it like a fucking beta and you fight for acknowledgement from cunts who hate you.
Or you grow bitter and want nothing to do with them.
Treating someone like shit, like lesser human being for something out of their control and then expecting them to work hard for you while getting scraps of what luckier people get, that is not arrogant?
How old are you? Be honest.
Chad doesn't exist you fucking retards. It's a strawman. If 'Chad' doesn't work at school, he still fails. If 'Chad' shovels junk food down his face all day, he's going to get fat. If 'Chad' doesn't pay attention to fashion, he's going to look like a retard. etc.etc. etc.
You're holding up some idealized theoretical person as a totem,and then using it justify your misery. Real human beings are much more nuanced than that.
Pretty much. Except if I was his employer, I'd fire him. If I where his teacher I'd fail him. And if I was his family, I'd disown him.
Fuck people like him. Throw them in the garbage where they belong.
23 years old.
Yeah but if I do the opposite of the things you mentioned I get shit. If Chad does that, he gets a lot.
Also Chad is anyone who got luckier than me. Who has easier life than me through something out of his control.
A lot of teachers tried dude
>tfw going throw high/middleschool withouth moving a finger
feels good wagecuck
>Pretty much. Except if I was his employer, I'd fire him. If I where his teacher I'd fail him. And if I was his family, I'd disown him.
You would fire him without caring about his job performance?
You would fail him without caring about his grades?
And this is why I hate normies. They just want to destroy everyone who doesn't buy into their little scam.
no one gives you shit for how tall you are (see: meme) or how your face looks, or how bright you are past the age of 20. sorry to burst your bubble, but you just arent that interesting. In case you havent been outside the past 10 years, no one is going to make fun of you just for walking down the street unless they are immature children that dont understand people come in all different shapes and sizes.
its not black and white. you can live a normal life without fighting for acknowledgement. thats just an issue with insecurity you need to work out. seriously, if you cant interact with other people without being able to affirm that they accept you, there is something wrong. There are plenty of people that dont accept me. do i bitch about it on the internet? no, i move on because i realize i dont get along well with them. find someone akin to you that you can connect with rather than searching for them on an image board where being a societal reject is the pre-requisite for respect.
Normies can't accept anyone jumping out of it
They can't accept someone noticing that their game is rigged as fuck
Let them work, to fill some Jewchad's pocket
while he is at home probably enjoying his NEET lifestyle just like us
>no one gives you shit for how tall you are
Except women. Half the population.
I'm honestly not sure if I should even respond to the rest of your post, since you started with something so retarded. Actually yeah I won't. I didn't even read it. Your first sentence was enough for me.
>23 years old.
You're way too old to be that immature. You'd better turn it around, because soon there will be no going back. And despite what internet memes might tell you, it's a truly miserable life.
>all kinds of unfounded assumptions
its obvious you havent had much struggle in your life by the way you talk
>You keep acting like the situation you're in is because of some genetic fuckery
i meant that for other robots, i actually have decent genetics but i was abused as a young child up until i was a teenager and was extremely socially isolated and just hid in my room.
when im around people or places im not comfortable in my heart beats so fast and my thoughts race and i physically shake and people think im a tweaker or cokehead because of it.
when youve been treated like shit by the only people who were supposed to care about you and ostracized by your peers for having your weird quirks and anger problems and poor social skills you wouldnt want to get better, it has nothing to do with being the best or chad, i never said anything about that, i just dont care to be apart of a society that treats others the way that they do, and everybody does it, even respectable people.
i feel strong guilt every single day for my failures, even if some of them arent my fault
im still lonely and lack fulfillment in life. my social skills have atrophied heavily since the 7th grade and i dont see myself as attractive enough to hold down a sexual/romantic relationship with anybody.
i dont want a normal life, like seriously ill kill myself if i have a normal job where i work for a wage and get up at 7 am everyday. its not worth it. im afraid of getting cucked if i ever get into a relationship as well. im not heavily well endowed and im quite short as well. my hairline is receding and im 18 years old. i haven't had a friend irl since the 7th grade either.
i dedicate myself to musicianship but thats out of my own accord, i dont have the social skills to really get it out there and expressing myself makes me incredibly anxious, plus i suffer from a ridiculous amount of self doubt and im never satisfied with anything i create
i just wanna get xanax or something and not care about shit because getting one on one therapy is impossible because my country's mental health services are garbage.
just dont understand how NORPs can understand and then continue to blame me, then i subconsciously internalize it and hate myself even more
And that's why you're a dirty normie scum. That's why every normie is an enemy as far as I am concerned. You would destroy someone for having a different opinion. You would actively try to make someones life difficult for not buying into the collective scam. Can't be surprised normies are hated by robots and we want nothing to do with you.
Miserable life? So is a life of wageslaving and beta providing. Because that's what's ahead if I play your normie game. Also instead of calling me immature, disprove me! Tell me why I'm wrong. Without fallacies, insults, etc.
>Miserable life? So is a life of wageslaving and beta providing. Because that's what's ahead if I play your normie game. Also instead of calling me immature, disprove me! Tell me why I'm wrong. Without fallacies, insults, etc.
He can't NEET bro, all this talk about envy, but he is the one jealous of our superior lifestyle
He probably wants to quit his job
But he can't
He is going to get enslaved through his whole life, and he knows it
You know how I know women care about height? I've talked to them. You would be surprised how much they share when they get drunk. They HATE manlets. And I'm not talking just one single incident. I've heard young women, tall women, ugly women, hot women, even mothers with small children all talking about how they hate manlets. In real life. Well they didn't use the word manlet, but believe it or not, the lowest I've heard them saying they'd go was 5'11".
So you can't disprove me, I take it? Nice. I mean I knew I was right, since many people before have tried and when push came to shove they just started insulting me or acting like you do.
Why do you obsess about women and sex? Failed normalfag talk if I ever heard it.
Yet that's the worst I'm going to insult you, as you're obviously unwilling to compromise on your desires and priorities
wise people dont give a shit about money
>your sample size is at most 10 people compared to 4 billion women
think again retard. if i asked some slutty sorority girls if they wuold fuck me, id probably get rejected, yet i have a gf.
>Couldn't care less
>then goes on to call me a normie.
Nice bait, well try not to stop other people who actually want to improve their lives.
Please define "normie".
If you wave off the question I will post my definition of a robot.
>mfw reached the "kill yourself" "die alone" "you deserve to be killed" phase already
Like fucking clockwork.
i dont need one. probability demands that the statistics you are presenting me with are not true at worst, and horrendous at best. All in all this just comes back to my earlier point where I accused you of making unsatisfactory attempts to justify your shitty life.
knock off the retarded bullshit, stop believing tinder statistics posted on r9k, and actually try rather than giving up.
these are the search results. which include actual studies amongst click bait tier articles and other bullshit.
all you have shown me is this is a question many people have. I stand by my earlier point, but feel free to change the focus of this argument if you want.
Well,that goes against established consensus, under those terms a person who:
>has friends online and IRL
Is a robot as long as they don't work, your argument is invalid as you are clearly arguing the proper term like a standard SJW and you just want the validation of your more than likely chance you don't qualify for the normal defintion.
You only bring back the reminder Neet threads were deleted for a reason in the past.
He's a teenager most likely. To join the army you have to strip and be examined by a doctor who will look for physical imperfections. They'll take x rays, blood tests, etc, if you're genetically inferior you can't pass the tests. I was born with a spinal deformity and look like hunchback from the movie 300. Just lol at these people saying looks don't matter. Its like they've never left the house.
like i said before, it's your choice to give up based on faulty statistics and word of mouth yet you still complain. i don't understand why really. Im bored now. i hope you make a better life for yourself.
Some people exist only to scare others away from making dumb mistakes. If we didn't have pathetic miserable robots plenty of naive kids would not care to develop skills and relationships because it takes effort
A long time ago I believed that there was a better future out there for each and every one of us, if we were strong enough to grasp it. I believed that if we would just seize the day then we could have it all - the friends, the money, the family, the retirement, and the satisfaction that comes in old age when you know you've done enough, seen enough, and been enough.
Weightlifting. It doesn't take a genius. It doesn't really even take any effort. If you want to be a bodybuilder then yes; if you just want to make consistent improvements then literally all you need to do is turn up and go through the motions. All it takes is commitment. Just be there, lift the thing, put it back down, repeat, go home. Three hours a week isn't much, and if you take it slow it's not that much effort either. Even if you do it in the laziest, stupidest way you pretty much can't fail to progress so long as you actually do it.
Life is kinda similar. Some people just have to pretty much turn up. They're born into money, or raised in happy families, and they go through the motions. Even Shaniqua with 5 kids and no job, though she's stupid and lazy, has some measure of contentment or satisfaction. They're the gymgoers. So long as they are actually there and do *something* they will eventually succeed.
What I am, and what we are, are the people with the genetic defect of brittle bones, or weak muscles, or paralysis, or bung lungs. We are the people who can't even lift the 1kg dumbbell. There is no place for us to start at. We can't do anything. Whether it happened through how we were raised or something else doesn't matter - we might as well have been born broken. And if it was weightlifting it wouldn't matter, because nobody expects the guy in a wheelchair to monster his legpress. He gets wheelchair ramps instead, and the sympathy and understanding of millions.
We get pushed out of our chairs and told to start walking. "It's so easy! I can do it - THAT MEANS YOU CAN TOO."
>"Just change, bro!"
Normies just make everything sound so easy. But I guess that's expected when you are gifted with talent/looks/good personality/etc when you popped out of your mother's womb.
I don't see where you're going with this. The end result is that your life is still very easy if you're saying you don't do anything, whether it "matters" or not. And at least the guys I've met in wheelchairs have to put in a lot more effort doing normal things in life. Comparing yourself to that would mean to me that you struggle but make it work. I would compare you to a pidgeon at best and literal sack of shit at worst.
>What I am, and what we are, are the people with the genetic defect of brittle bones, or weak muscles, or paralysis, or bung lungs. We are the people who can't even lift the 1kg dumbbell. There is no place for us to start at. We can't do anything. Whether it happened through how we were raised or something else doesn't matter - we might as well have been born broken. And if it was weightlifting it wouldn't matter, because nobody expects the guy in a wheelchair to monster his legpress. He gets wheelchair ramps instead, and the sympathy and understanding of millions.
If you're legitimately (emphasis on legitamlty) handicap, people understand. 99% of the people on her are not legitimately handicapped. These people can go fuck themselves.
>person literally can't do a physical activity
this is normal and everybody understands
>person literally can't do a social activity
people literally can't understand that this is not just possible but the reality for a lot of robots
>"b-b-b-b-but you CAN do it"
how do you know? all you know is that YOU can do it.
>99% of the people on her are not legitimately handicapped
>if i don't understand it it doesn't exist
yeah lol people who hate themselves and their lives so much that they commit suicide aren't handicapped at all. being dead doesn't handicap your life prospects much :)
>implying i'm going to take the bait
you and i both know what kind of people i'm talking about. semantics are irrelevant.
>handicapped at all
That's not what handicap means. And people who kill themselves aren't caught up with normie/Chad/Stacy. The people on here are a bunch of spoiled suspended adolescents.
And frankly you have some nerve equating you're bullshit, with people with who are legitimately handicapped.
What you assholes need is a smack in the mouth.
Fixed it. I don't know who the fuck made that trash.
>That's not what handicap means.
a circumstance that makes progress or success difficult.
"not being able to drive was something of a handicap"
synonyms: impediment, hindrance, obstacle, barrier, bar, encumbrance; More
you should be familiar with handicaps, anon. you seem to suffer from one ;^)
>What you assholes need is a smack in the mouth.
this is obviously bait
you're not very good at this. your posts are so obviously wrong that it really isn't taking me any time to respond, and because of that i am barely involved in the discussion. this lack of involvement means your insults and conceited tone don't really affect me.
what i usually do is make claims that people know are intuitively wrong but difficult to prove and then goad them into actually doing the research and replying with citations. when i smugly brush this hard-fought evidence off with the utmost arrogance they flip their shit most of the time.
How would you know or understand though? It sounds like you just don't want to do anything about your social skills. You sound like a woman who just "can't" get up early enough to make food because she is out partying the night before.
It really is about mentality, to be honest.
I have a manlet chinese friend (4"11) who in high school who was bullied severely, but he never really gave up on improving his life. He had acne, nasally voice, and just the typical negative qualities of a chinese person.
He told me power and optimism were key to happiness, and without those you weren't a man. It was weird because everyone never respected him, but he joined the baseball team, he became more confident, and he managed to get someone to say yes to him on the school dance.
He finished his engineering degree now and has a good job, and a lot of friends too.
nigga, you're whole life is bait. You're NOT handicap. Stop trying to exploit semantics/philosophy/genetics to justify you're pathetic life.
And yeah, if I were related to you, I'd smack you in the mouth.
>It sounds like you just don't want to do anything about your social skills.
yeah probably dude. being a total outcast with no present and no future is a much more comfortable and attractive option than being a functioning member of society. i sure do enjoy the way i live my life. that's why i often spend half an hour or so just staring at my handgun. i just love being in this deep well of despair so damn much ;^)
this is somewhat better than your last effort, but a low-quality post like this has to come after some big expenditure of effort from your counterpart to incite actual anger.
>You're NOT handicap. Stop trying to exploit semantics/philosophy/genetics to justify you're pathetic life.
you were the one who started talking about what words mean and don't mean, fampamwham. check it out bae: :"That's not what handicap means" (>>25943017)
i know this is an earth shattering concept, but if you don't wanna talk about semantics then don't bring em up ;^)
alternatively (and this is my little tip) always be the first one to give a definition. if you give a definition you frame the entire argument, and if you keep referring back to it every time they deviate you can absolutely smash them and drive them to incendiary rage. let them deviate for 40 minutes or so on some topic, ideally one that you can really get them invested in, and then dismiss it all as irrelevant and go back to the original definition you gave 2 hours ago.
this alone is enough to incite furious shitposting from most people.
this isn't justification. this is objective truth. a blind man might argue about the colour of the sky and he will never know that there are objective facts that render his entire dissertation, replete with logic and genius, irrelevant.
>''I'm a normie''
>has the audacity to continue typing
we're all pathetic when you think about it. a bunch of animals running around fulfilling their programming - smart enough to realise they're just organic machines but not smart enough to realise it doesn't really matter, so they invent these grand moral principals to try and "elevate" themselves. inherent dignity in work? more like you're programmed to work because you're programmed to live. human rights? more like programmed empathy. nothing needs to be justified. when NEETs look down on Wagecucks they're doing the same thing Wagecucks do to NEETs for all the same reasons. human behaviour stands alone. explain it? sure. justify it? why. does it being "unjustified" mean it's going to stop? when has that ever worked in all history lol.
everything we do has an entirely biological genesis.
it doesn't matter why we do things or how we feel. live slow die whenever.
>there are a few people willing to change who hopefully looked at the thread.
they will fail.
they might be able to pretend, and if you pretend long enough you might even believe it yourself, but they will never achieve anything more than cyborg-hood. like the anti-suicide activist who preaches for 30 years about how "depression can be beaten" and then kills himself. the fall is always, always, always just one step behind you. no matter how much these people "change" - no matter how far they run - the instant they stop they will collapse.
that's what makes them different from you. you have no fall. we can spend our whole lives running, or we can be the people we were born to be.>>25943366
>tfw tell people to give up
>tfw they give up and live miserably
>tfw other idiots try to tell them to not give up
>mfw it never works
Haha pathetic shits don't listen to anyone but the guys who hate you. Even better every time I hear one of you is "suicidal" aka going to be sad and upset for 20+ years nonstop
tldr....I'm fine pretending you don't exist.And I'm sure as hell not going to indulge your jive. Fap yourself raw in misery for all I care. If you were related to me, I wouldn't indulge your rhetoric either. I'd smack you in the teeth. Fuck off you huckster.
>it is impossible for people to be born deformed
>I have never been outside
>I have never visited a hospital
Lol just how sheltered are you?
And yeah I look like Quasimodo because my spine is twisted and deformed. Because of this deformity my body distributed its weight unevenly during its development so one side of my face is much, much larger than the other. One of my eyes is so far apart from the other (vertically) that i can even see well. I can't sit down to eat at restaurants, I can't go anywhere. Pretty much everywhere I go the employees tell me I'm making the customers upset and that I should leave.
In fact I'd say Quasimodo is better looking, at least he has a head full of hair
Please, tell me how this is all my fault
now THIS is quality. this is absolutely fucking spot on what you should be doing to incite spitting fury. i can see it now: i spend 20 minutes finding an appropriate medical definition of handicapped, you make a small objection about citations, i go and find and skim through some studies done and present them back with quotes and citations, and you dismiss them on some vaguery and retreat back to some other definition from some other thing. if you did it all with the right tone of smugness and abrasiveness it would be perfect.
this is exactly what i mean when i said "intuitively wrong but hard to prove"
having a self-inflicted bullet in your head is a legitimate medical problem, ergo the cause is a legitimately medical problem as well. drastically increased likelihood to shoot yourself is a handicap. you think it's caused by my shitty life. you're wrong. plenty of people "change" and manage to live happy normalfag lives and just fucking off themselves. it's always a "huge shock" and "we thought he was doing so much better" "we thought he was over this" "we thought..." because people never change. they pretend. they are cyborgs. they look like functioning people, but when they get home from work to their estranged family and drink late into the night when everyone else is in bed - where you can't see them - you can see what they really are. they've got metal hearts.
washing my clothes won't make me not kill myself, family member.
that's le point.
Kek. I am the original authort. And yeah, I 100% mean it. That's the ONLY way to deal with you faggots. If you had decent fathers they would have taken that approach a long time ago.
I can't stop being a mentally ill pervert with a shitton of medical problems and a lifetime of suffering that's traumatized me, but I DO make an active effort, every single day, to better myself. I see two shrinks on a bi-weekly basis. I look after my body and try to do my best to look after my mind. I force myself to socialize, even if it's only online, and I force myself to get out of the house, even if it's only to go to work and the grocery store. I try, OP. I want to fix my life more than anything. Fuck you.
it won't stop you from making the same posts next thread. why even bother apologizing
i post on /r9k/
66 dogs dancing on 66 balls to beat the mute
nigga, do i look like one of the retard you go back and forth w/ all day in you frog in a blanket threads?
Fuck off you friendless, unloved, bottom rung of society, human garbage, virgin, failure.
yeah i really just can't believe in that shit, sorry. even if i wanted to, it's just garbage. the bible is a silly fairy tale to me, not to insult you or anything but i think it's just as reasonable to believe as the old greek and roman myths
>Always keep in mind to look for women in areas you yourself are comfortable in.
my room? i went to a concert a few days ago it was just weird and uninviting,. i dont really like music though. i dont like anything actually, i'm going into EEG therapy to see if it can cure my anhedonia
I've fallen, all you have to do is pick your bloody corpse off the ground and keep trying.
>no suicide though.
Also I will not argue we are organic machines, it's in my programming to want to help other humans.
It's possible to rewrite yourself, not much point to argue with a nihilistic person.
Yep, we're all guilty until proven innocent. Every last one of us is worthless human garbage whose feelings and experiences can be dismissed as whining unless we can prove otherwise to your satisfaction. You, who are really nothing more than a featherless biped like the rest of us despite whatever "accomplishments" you think you've achieved, are entitled to pass judgment on an entire population that you will never be part of - that you will never deal with in any meaningful way whatsoever.
And when you do engage with us, and your heart cries out in pain when you learn about our lives and who we really are - provoked by your empathy - see how quickly you scuttle away and retreat. "I'm sorry!" "I didn't mean it!" "You get a free pass, we're all friends here, wink wink, I'm still a good person!" Every thread, over and over again, you pick someone and single them out to hurl shit at them because it makes you feel powerful and important and successful, and then when you're alerted to the human cost of your activity you turn into a coward without even realising and try and set your mistakes all right. You want all the benefits of standing on top of people without having anyone bear your weight, and it doesn't work like that.
Fuck you anon. You've literally just experienced why your behaviour is morally wrong, and you refuse to change.
Actually, maybe you do belong here after all.
There is no room for disabled/deformed people on this world, I saved up money for a trip to Europe last year (i have a job) and in every store, every restaurant and shopping centre I tried to enter, the staff would begin to shout in broken English and gesturing violently at me telling me to get out. Its not possible. Its pointless to even go outside if you aren't normal looking. Death is preferable
made up disease? i didn't call it a disease. i cannot derive pleasure from any activity that is not immediately gratifying -- such as fapping, eating, or sleeping. going out and talking people, doing 'hobbies', exercising, NONE OF THAT gives me any joy. i suspect it's a problem with dopamine.
you're going to say "try harder"
i went out to a concert. i was just standing there not having a good time. tried to talk to girls but didn't really even care to give a shit about what they were saying so i just went home. i cant even listen to music it is just noise to me. sorry that you think i'm full of shit and not trying but why the fuck would i want to not be able to enjoy anything but immediately pleasurable things that cause a chemical release of dopamine?
You've got to love it. They've got no problem in believing in some vase deep seated global Jewish conspiracy to oppress them. But questioning the validity or motives of the psychology and pharmaceutical industries....now that's just crazy.
quit samefagging. 'anhedonia' is not a disease, nobody said it was. it's a symptom of depression.
tell me, PLEASE for the love of god how to be happy and feel joy again. i will pay you $1000 because i just cant do it, not without something like heroin or eating or fapping. NOTHING makes me happy anymore, i dont know how to entertain myself
>We are obliged to submit and work to compensate for what Chad had since he was born
>We are obliged to settle for Chad's cumsluts when they get too old for his Thundercock
This is sincerely what OP believes
Let's laugh at this wagecuck betaprovider
So you don't even want to argue. In your normie self-righteousness you don't even care. You just want me to work my ass off even though Chad doesn't have to and when I tell you why that doesn't make sense. You don't care. And normies are surprised we hate them?
Well, at least you've got the internet. We're all equals here.
>Death is preferable
/r9k/ wouldn't be the same place without you. It's your decision though.
>if someone other than you who i actually respect seconds your opinions then i might actually start treating you with the basic dignity that all people ought to be entitled to
Do you even hear yourself speak?
>went to one concert and thinks he's tried the full spectrum of human experience
I've traveled the world, met beautiful and exotic men and women, tried gourmet food, stayed in five-star restaurants, served in the military, had a brief stint as a violent criminal, went skydiving, tried multiple extreme sports, made music, learned a new language, disowned my family, met the love of my life, watched them slowly succumb to depression and nearly die, built back up my relationship with my parents, got mental health help and proper medication, and through all of that
through ALL of that
I did not feel much in the way of pleasure or excitement. I could not orgasm when I was with people sexually, I could not get excited when I was skydiving, my heart didn't race and my body didn't sweat when I was assaulting other people, I was unaffected by the gore that I saw and the combat I was exposed to.
But never, not even once, did I say that I had some stupid fucking condition like "anhedonia." I was eventually diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and even now that the mania is treated I have lengthy "depressive episodes" that cause me to feel like shit. But I don't use that as some shitty excuse to not do things. I may not enjoy it as much as other people, but it sure as shit is better than not doing anything at all. Better than wasting away and not living my life.
Why don't you stop making excuses and admit that you're a weak-willed, pathetic little worm who will never take action because you want to hide behind medical jargon?
So you don't care about the logic or the truth. You just want the inferior people to keep working hard despite getting nothing back compared to Chad. And you're surprised we hate you?
Only reason you're insulting us is because we don't let ourselves get exploited.
i have travelled, i went skydiving, i've done sports, i've tried music, i've learned spanish. none of that gave me any joy. i am envious of you that you can have fun doing those things.
i don't enjoy music, at all. i don't like travelling AT ALL. sports are fucking garbage even though i'm decent at soccer, i'd rather just lift. when i went skydiving (with my cowokers) the whole time they were pestering me about "why arent you excited, why arent you smiling?" i wasnt even scared because it was tandem.
the only thing oyu mentioned that i did and enjoyed was eating at a fancy restaurant (a guy i tutored invited me for free because he worked at one). but food is inherently pleasurable because it releases dopamine as a result of nourishment. and i can't fucking eating 24/7 i'll get fat.
>But never, not even once, did I say that I had some stupid fucking condition like "anhedonia."
IT'S NOT A FUCKING CONDITION. it's a symptom of a condition/state of mind (depression) which can result from any number of things. i feel useless, like i have no purpose in life. but i can't think of anything constructive to do. so i just work, save money, and lift
>Why don't you stop making excuses and admit that you're a weak-willed, pathetic little worm who will never take action because you want to hide behind medical jargon?
here it is agian
all of those things you mention are not fun for me, with the exception of eating food.
why do continue to care about society if this is case?
If you truly hated them you wouldn't care what they say about you.
You are unable to live life for yourself are instead controlled by them.
I had to go to a therapist once, because I got in trouble at school. They diagnosed me with bi-polar and prescribed me Klonopin. I threw it in the garbage.
10 years later, I'm happy, in great shape, have a fiance I love, and a good career.
The psychology and pharmaceutical industries are a bunch of pill pushing frauds. If you're stupid enough to believe in their bullshit, you get what you deserve.
>Just say "I can't" and go on doing whatever I wait
but there's plenty of things that i can't do. i can't jump 50 feet in the air. i can't bench press 500 pounds.
you think i am not depressed because i can enjoy eating food? shitty troll, try harder
>If you have a legitimate physical deformity or handicap, please be specific. I'm all ears. No fake mental illness, or I'm 5'6, hold any weight.
And what would you say to me if I said I'm a perfectly healthy human being with enough friends, sexually active, with a good job, and yet I still have recurring thoughts of suicide and almost went through with an attempt? Does my lack of "legitimacy" mean that you're excused from caring about me? If I shoot myself in 6 months should it bother you? Do I matter to you?
Make sure to tell yourself that you're only joking, which means you're still a good person at heart!
I have been on many different medications. Most of them give me very, very bad side effects, and some of them exacerbated my behavior. When I am not medicated, from anywhere from a couple times a month to several times a year, I will get into a very excitable mood where I cannot stop talking, will not sleep, will not eat, spend money recklessly, attack people at random, have a heightened sex drive and am extremely paranoid. The mood passes after several days and then comes back like clockwork. This is not normal. When I'm not in that state, I'm very depressed, lethargic and take very little pleasure in things that brought me entertainment and joy when I was a child. I get homicidal and suicidal, and although I do not self-harm I tend towards self-destructive behavior. This is also not normal.
I tried seeing shrinks many times over the years, who diagnosed me with everything from antisocial personality disorder to psychotic depression. Then I found one who thought it was bipolar type 1, and prescribed me lithium. The manic episodes stopped within a month. I saw another shrink to get a second opinion, and he was outraged that no one had realized what I was suffering from sooner. He added an antipsychotic to further stabilize my mood and reduce my reckless behavior. That was two years ago, and I haven't had an episode since. I'm still depressed, but my life has changed so dramatically from such a simple change, it would be outrageous to suggest that they're spouting bullshit. Before you suggest it, this is not a placebo effect, the level of lithium in my blood is typically much lower than it should be and has to be monitored on a regular basis to ensure that I am being properly treated and don't relapse.
You had a bad experience from a hack who was trying to push pills on you. That does not mean that all mental illness is invalid or that there aren't legitimate cases.
Sorry, I didn't realise I was dealing with such a master edgelord.
How many people in your life have committed suicide anon? If the answer is less than 1 then I'm sorry, but your opinions on the subject just aren't "legitimate". I guess you'll have to find someone I actually respect to argue on your behalf ;^).
Sorry, but I don't believe psychology is either science or legitimate healthcare.
And I sure as fuck don't believe in the intentions of the pharmaceutical industry. Wake up.
don't even bother posting OP, you'll just get told to go away. you're asking blind men to see
t. 300 pound (used to be even heavier) neckbeard khv that gets told to "get out normie" whenever I've shared things that have helped me out.
there's no point to trying to talk to them about it. in their eyes, the second option isn't just farther away & harder to get to, it's gone altogether. there's no summit to be seen, let alone traversed.
i can't say shit because I was in the same place for the longest time, but one day, it was like something snapped in place. like those "ah hah" moments one has when they finally understand a concept after the nth time.
telling a robot to put effort in bettering themselves can be like telling a depressive person that they just need to travel the world, bang some hookers, etc. to get out of their "rut"
Do you not believe that psychiatry is a legitimate science? Do you genuinely think it is a jewspiracy completely and utterly dominated by the intentions of CEO's who want to jew you out of your money and control you? I get my medicine for free, I don't pay anyone for it.
The number of people who lose significant amounts of weight and remain at a healthy weight statistically rounds down to zero.
Look it up if you like.
What makes you special?
You haven't succeeded anon. You just haven't yet failed.
It's not a legitimate science.
I do find it hilarious, that you idiots have no problem believing in some global Jewish conspiracy to oppress and wagecuk you, but the mere suggestion that psychologists and Big Pharma might not be on the level and it's: REEEEEEEE.
Not even that, but if his problems could be solved by losing weight then he was never a robot. He was just a sleeper normie. Robot is fucked due to things out of ones control. I shouldn't even be expecting a rational response, normies will just spam "hurr trash" and "hurr enjoy dying alone" instead of proving me wrong. I don't get why they're surprised when we don't change.
This. It's like when people tell you to fight your bullies to get "respect" from them. I did that, and then I realized that it's retarded. Why do I want respect or friendship from people who tormented me, people I fucking hate?
That image is sexy as fuck
I'm going to attempt to make the top left and bottom left for myself. I'm running out of desk space.
Also Ive tried to change myself. Upon doing so I now see that the world is shit and will continue to be shit so I'll just keep to myself and relax for the next 50 years of my life.
Or 20 If Im still interested in killing myself around age 40
I don't believe in any global conspiracy, you're parroting the opinions of other robots.
It's obvious that you won't listen to reason or be swayed on this matter. Good fucking day.
where do u even get that idea? they're fucking drug dealers out to make a profit. some of them give a shit about your health and actually want to help, some just want your shekels. i don't think any robot actually thinks that it's not a corrupt field. nothing with so much profit to be made is immune from corruption.
regardless, emotions are real and drugs affect them. what's so difficult to understand?
the weight was only a fraction of it. the main thing that actually made me want to stop taking the gas pipe or revolver was finding a hobby that wasn't playing vidya for 12+ hours a day
how do you think I got so big in the first place? I was bullied by people 5+ years my age starting in elementary. one of those times an 8th grader cut me off while walking home in 2nd grade, ripped my backpack from me, then belittled me for doing "dumb retard math" before he threw it in a trash can. he stood there & kept pushing me down when i tried to get it back.
that sorta stuff happened weekly and i started staying in the broom closet for an hour after school because i didn't want to run into him after the bell. it's when i developed my binge eating, easy
>We can't manually set our dopamine levels, etc.
Actually, we can.
>The number of people who lose significant amounts of weight and remain at a healthy weight statistically rounds down to zero.
>going from an ungodly weight, to a still terrible 300 pounds
>having reached a healthy weight
kek, good one
Robots, don't exist. But the people on this board are practically mental illness groupies. They're as bad as the tumblr crowd.
>regardless, emotions are real and drugs affect them. what's so difficult to understand?
Agreed. Sometimes, I smoke some weed to mellow out. Doesn't make me a legitimate scientist or doctor. And they aren't either.
And so you should. He got lucky, that's all. There is no reason to be happy about someone elses success because they got lucky. Actually there is no reason to be happy about someone elses success.
>But despite that you worked hard to fit in with the Chads.
>deciding to only eat one whole pizza instead of two for the day is working hard
what. honestly, the main/best reason, is before, I couldn't go up a SINGLE flight of stairs without having to sit down afterwards. i'm still unhealthy as fuck, but now i can walk up multiple flights without feeling the need to sit down, although i will be winded.
Why should you be? Any success someone is having is success you're not having. And with women? Zero-sum game. Anyone who wins that is not you means your loss.
But as the rest of the normies, you're not gonna reply rationally. You will just insult me. Oh well. Truth is more important than not being insulted.
you're an idiot. you smoke weed because it mellows you out. it gives me horrible anxiety. but sober i don't feel too much better. i've tried a lot of drugs and none of them really help except dissociatives but it only lasts a few days.
>But despite that you worked hard to fit in with the Chads
to add on, if you believe that me wanting to be able to go up more than one flight of stairs (without sitting after each one) is an attempt to fit in with the chads, which you're free to believe, this dialog's pretty much a moot point because i do not consider that to be part of the "wants to be a chad" criteria.
to me, it's more of a "the elevator in the building of my 4th story class is broken and i want to get there without resting 4 separate times"
There are BILLIONS of women in this world. I've never had any problem attracting one. I'm happy when other people find success and happiness. It's called grace. I'm not surprised women aren't into you. You sound awful.
>But the people on this board are practically mental illness groupies. They're as bad as the tumblr crowd.
Agreed. I get a pretty good laugh from all the failed relationship stories on this board from people convinced that everyone else is the problem.
It will never change though, they'll go on blaming woman/men for all their problems.
ketamine is the best. but it's relatively weak dose-wise and expensive, with my tolerance it would be an unaffordable habit. dxm is easy to find in stores, mxe is a good choice as well
Just as there are BILLIONS of men. Do I sound awful? Maybe because I'm expected to work hard for things Chad gets easily. Maybe because I get treated like shit for things out of my control. But hey, what you normies would want is for me to just stfu, let you treat me like shit and also to work hard for your society. Fuck you all.
indeed they don't know for sure how to "fix" it but that doesn't make it not a science. it means we don't know all that much about the brain because we are ignorant. physics is a science even though we don't know jack shit about the universe
Jealousy is a natural reaction, just realize you could have done something similar, assuming a situation were to happen.
But as you already said,"I'm lazy".
Also note, I'm not the person insulting people. Paranoid suspension makes me think false counter opposition.