It is a 100% objective fact that if sex wasn't a thing neither sexes would have anything do to with one another. yeah yeah fuck off if sex didn't exist there wouldn't be more than one sex but that's not the point
This is literally how it is.Women are extremely bad at being anything more than fucktoys.I have yet to find a girl,who(when interested in animu/vidya/sci-fi/fantasy) is able to discuss such things with me.They only pretend to be interested,then forget important details,and even basic plot lines.Then they blame devoted fans for being "nerdy".REEEEEEE!!!!
>>25932890 Wow this post is actually hilarious. If you had interest in things that normal people like, you would actually be able to have an intelligent conversation with girls (if you were yourself intelligent).
>>25931618 No, a whore won't put out until she knows she can con you into buying shit for her, treating her like a princess, etc.
Women are slowing realizing the have no real use other than sex appeal, and popping out babies on a semi-regular basis, so it isn't surprising they're getting defensive about shit like this all of a sudden.
>>25933202 But half the enjoyment of sex is the mental connection and the knowledge that this other sentient human being wants you to put your cock inside her. I, too, was doing sex wrong until I stopped picking up drunk sluts and learned how to have sex with quality women while sober. Shit's cash.
>>25933279 >But half the enjoyment of sex is the mental connection and the knowledge that this other sentient human being wants you to put your cock inside her Well, considering the fact that I'm genetically inferior, and women pretty much laugh if I attempt to hit on them, I'm never going to experience that. Even if that is true (and if it is I honestly don't care, since sex is just sex to me), it still isn't worth the mental gymnastics to get into some whore's pants I'm not gonna talk to after that initial contact.
>>25931618 >Do you guys actually believe [evolution by natural selection]?
In evolutionary psychology altruism only makes sense as a peacocks feather. In terms of natural selection altruism does nothing to benefit the organism that has it unless that organism belongs to a community that rewards it.
Now, whether doing something 'for sex' is truly altruistic is a matter for philosophers, but are you seriously going to tell me that there is such a thing as 'unconditional kindness'? That someone is going to continue to be kind even if they're derided for it? Even when it confers NO BENEFIT for them to be kind? Why? For what purpose?
This is just a small part of the larger culture of feminist denial of reality. You can say that about literally any behaviour and make it sound just as "bad" to simpletons heavily sedated with blue pills.
>Girls are not machines that you put flirtation coins into until sex falls out. >Girls are not machines that you put handsome coins into until sex falls out. >Girls are not machines that you put literal coins into until sex falls out.
Despite these being the case most of the time. Also, this whole "denial of being a biological machine" just goes to show how deluded girls are.
>Girls aren't biological machines who have a chemical reaction to stimulus and if the right chemical reaction occurs will have sex with you. >OH, WAIT. THEY LITERALLY ARE
>>25931618 I wish feminists would stop blaming robots for this. It's literally the fault of women. We were all raised by single mothers who told us "just be nice and she'll fall in love with you :^)" over and over again.
This attitude is not an issue of male entitlement, it's actually a direct product of feminism.
What irritates me about that quote and the notion behind it is the arrogance, and they're victimizing themselves while placing some form of blame on the man.
People approach people for sex, it's normal, it's natural. The annoying part of this whole thing is that some men are simply socially inept, they've never developed in that regard and have almost no notion in how to approach women, get a girlfriend or hook up which can come easily to many people.
Yes, they are being indirect with their intentions. They're playing one character while seeking something else. They would be to blame if this was out of pure intent, intent to let the woman down by knowingly pretending for the sole reason to offend her in whichever way she'll be offend.
The 'nice guys' who act nice but expect something more do it because they don't know what else to do. Why place any form of blame on that or take offense? They just don't know, but they are trying. It would be better if the woman at least responds with critique on how he should have approached.
All of this is senseless. It's not intentionally malicious, but people like to believe it is so they can play the victim and gain reassurance and an ego boost in the form of sympathy. It's just people failing socially but people want to make it about themselves and gain from someone's misfortune. Neither party is wrong or right, it's just the social play that goes on day in day out.
If the man gets offended when rejected and cuts contact that's poor character on his part, about the being offended, but cutting contact is justified in my opinion for that's not what he was after. I can understand why the woman would feel betrayed and mislead, but I don't think they should play victim or blame the man. Just be fucking open with each other, learn to handle rejection and give it.
>>25931618 no women just want the male with the most 'social value' that have the most to offer them because they are so self centered and shallow. I use quotes because it is a perceived social value that those with social skills and willpower to learn / manipulate and filter your words to females do even if they have none. And those with lower social skills / willpower / lack of a moral conscience are put down by females because it isnt attractive and they justify it to themselves and their friends by calling people like that 'creeps' or 'entitled' which is just a herd mentality that disregards what is logically or morally correct to justify being morally bankrupt to themselves and each other. It's pretty pathetic desu, I don't even think most people who are 'nice guys' even associate that with themselves they are just polite to everybody they aren't entirely comfortable with and are confused why women treat them like subhumans and then once again women justify it to themselves and others by beta shaming with the epic nice guy meme like you posted in your OP.
>>25936275 >because they didn't even bother to think that it was a bad idea, let alone vaguely morally repugnant and entitled.
They're ignorant. What's faulty in an ignorant mind when thinking along the lines of "If I'm a nice person, the people I like might like me as well."?
They don't know any better. They're like children socially. They simply don't know.
>you can get mad at actions even if they aren't intentional
It's irrational to get mad in general. It's justifiable to judge someone poorly if their poor actions were intentional, the 'nice guys' don't have malicious intent. The ones who keep on doing it expecting different results are only hurting themselves in the long run, the men and women who blame the other person are both equally 'bad'. It's a learning experience, if people could think social problems or others to the point of perfection then we would not need to test anything or learn from our actions or the actions of others.
Be glad they're not trying to mimic the 'asshole Chad' archetype and believe that they should treat women like shit to get them to fuck.
I'm not saying their actions are good. I'm saying placing blame and playing victim is idiotic.
>>25931618 >If you do, it's no wonder why girls don't want you.
if you wanna have sex with somebody, they should at least like you before fucking you, right? so yeah, opinion discarded. all relationships are give and take. when is sex happening then without that? they don't say anything about that. which is weird and retarded
Saying it's commonplace does not justify it or add reason to it.
>is it really different? its the same mentality, reduction of attraction in general, and the woman in particular, to a formula to be solved What is social dynamics?
People 'play the part' in life constantly, with partners, neighbors, family, colleagues, friends. They try to omit from their behavior the things others would see as negative or offensive for the sake of keeping the bond they have or building on it.
Socially inept guys who seek a partner do the same, except they have no real world experience and fail at their attempts due to it. With failed experiences comes knowledge regarding how to do it right. No one is born with a guide book on life.
You're trying very hard here to victimize women by downplaying this whole argument in a way so it's focused negatively on women only, but the thing is you're not actually achieving that, you're just arguing for the other side without knowing it.
Stop thinking socially inept people are bad because they're socially inept. It just breeds dissent based on nothing substantial.
It's quite obvious. This saying is meant to keep the inferior males in check. Since they're expected to work much harder for things and get much less than Chad(someone lucky). Normies just perpetuate this "you're not entitled to anything" mindset so inferior people work hard, get very little in return and are happy about it.
Lel, I guarantee you I'm smarter than all of them put together. A masters means a woman is smart? What a joke, she's fucking the dean so her 30 page discourse on gender roles in Twilight gets her a C and she can go on to do nothing with her degree. What's that she's stem? Biology sure is a rigorous field of study, I remember having difficulty at their level of material when I was 8 years old.
Women a shit and a meme. A smart woman has never existed. You saying as much in hopes they'll touch your little peepee doesn't make it true.
>>25937063 You're wrong. These movies are what gets the awkward nerds wageslaving and working for normie society. All of this while getting nothing(partner, family) in return other than money that's for most of them barely enough to survive. Giving the false hope is the only purpose of these movies.
>>25937075 I can literally guarantee that you aren't, because you are stupid enough to believe what you're saying. A masters doesn't mean she's smart, but she's still fucking smart. And STEM is pleb tier.
Females are gatekeepers of sex, met are gatekeepers of relationships. It's better this way. I just string a bitch along until she's more trouble than the sex is worth. It's literally everywhere and females fuck everything, even tables and dogs. Why would anyone buy the cow when the milk is free, and not just milk, but chocolate milk, strawberry milk, malted milk, and more, and the milk is from prettier younger cows too. It's as easy as don't be short and or fat.
I'm a 6'2 /fit/ sperglord and have had """""""gfs""""""" that were actually open relationship fwbs. It's funny how upset they get when I cheat on them when they know damn well women are known for being unable to go 5 miles without somehow falling and landing on a dick.
Whatever helps you sleep at night. If any woman is smarter than you then you should kill yourself. Women are stupid. There's nothing else to it. Also, STEM is all that matters. Anything else is a gag major. Just curious though, what are these super genius women studying? English literature? Early education? Dicksucking?
>>25937160 This meme has to end. Blaming yourself is what normies want you to do. So you work hard to "improve" and while doing this you will be helping the normie society. But since Chad doesn't have to improve like you did, you will always lose to him. So any effort is wasted. Not only wasted, it's counter-productive since it helps the normies.
>>25937203 Could you even try? I mean I get it. I got born non-Chad so you think I should spend my life working hard and getting scraps of what Chad gets. That's what would help your society. But I'm not going to do that. No amount of peer pressure and shaming(comparing me to women) will change this.
If the outcome isn't worth the input, you simply don't play. And if you're not a Chad, the outcome is not worth the input.
>>25937276 Do you not get it? You want us to work hard for things Chad doesn't have to. You want us to accept being humiliated every day for being short, ugly, you name it. You want us despite being humiliated by normies to work extremely hard to overcome our shortcomings and in the process to help the normie society. And even if we do all of this, we can't expect anything because "muh entitlement".
The answer is market forces. Ironically, after I stopped giving a fuck about women is when I lost my man-maidenhood.
Fuck women, they're nothing but trouble. If everything did their own thing and just had sex when in falls in their laps then kicked the bitch to the curb women would be a lot more pleasant. It's always in the stupidest way too. Women play dress up and pretend to be men and do things and then people say she did a good job like a big girl in hopes of sex but it instead just inflates the vapid harpy's ego even further.
>>25937291 Apparently because "hurr lief eez nut faihr". Point is even if you accept this(which is sensible because it's true) you would still have to have normies. Because they got luckier than you and they will laugh at you and humiliate you for being less lucky. And they will mercilessly try to push you into doing whatever they want you to do("Do X or you're never getting laid dude"). I don't see how I could accept this without holding a grudge against normies and anyone lucky in particular. But apparently, holding a grudge is a huge no-no too. Not sure what to at this point to be honest.
Only thing that normies will tell me is "grow up" which is just more peer pressure and shaming.
>>25937381 And I'm sure normies would like the inferior men to be like that. Normies think that being nice even to people who are cunts to you is rational. I think if someone hits you, you hit back. And boy do people tend to go from nice to bitter after being shat on.
>>25937403 I used to, up until I was about 10, maybe little less. Also you didn't disprove anything I've said, you've just insulted me more.
In a way you're right. I can't change the society. And well unless you want to become a hobo you have to accept the things I've said, like being passed by people who got luckier and are better than you thanks to this. Only thing I'd really like to know is, how. Because accepting this makes me hate myself and everyone else. And I've yet to hear a rational argument that disproves this instead of telling me "it's how it is, deal with it, fag".
>>25937366 You know that normies fuck up generations with this mindset. The reason we exist is to reflect the faillure that they have created and keep creating until the world ends. And in the end they will still deny that they fucked up.
>>25931618 Of course not. You can pretty much expect that if a feminist is arguing against something, it's not an opinion people actually hold. See also: victim blaming. Feminists have such poorly thought out opinions they need to argue with a sock puppet in order to win.
>>25937510 Fuck you, normie. I'd rather be a NEET who leeches off society then accept this and help your normie society. And you can't do anything about me leeching off. it's how it is, deal with it, fag
Normalfags are stupid and completely unaware of this. Knowing is half the battle. Stop being ugly and hide your power level, it's that easy. Anything but height and race is easily changed. Steroids and Accutane changed my life. I gained nearly 50lbs in two years on top of losing fat. Just going from skinny fat to athletic made a huge difference. Once I have enough I'm getting dental implants and chin/jaw/cheek augmentation to become truly DOM.
Also, bathmate actually works. I got a Chinese factory direct for $14 instead of full price. I've been looking into chemical pe and traction devices to work on length. Pge1 and papavarine with jelqing and constant tension should work, especially if I combined it with something to break down the collagen and shit in my dick. I don't know though. For one thing jelqing sucks becbecause the time it takes, and sticking a needle in my ass is way different from sticking one in my cock. I want a 7x6 so I can hurt women and split them in two, but I want their pain to be greater than mine it takes to get there. Apparently the injection is very painful and it's done 3 to 7 times a week, and hurts until the erection subsides some hours later. I'll eventually get there I guess. Teeth and face come first though.
Anyway, it's a game, and they don't know this. Just be meta as fuck about it and you'll wit.
Public Announcement: To every person in this thread not able to get sex and/or relationships: it's not your fault. it's not your personality, lack of interests, mental illness, being bitter, social anxiety, etc.
You're not getting sex and/or a relationship because you're not attractive enough. if you were you attractive you would get sex and/or relationship naturally and with no effort (by just being yourself).
that is, if you're male. were you a female, you would get all those things if you were about 2/10 and above.
This facts are well known by all attractive men and by all women. everything else those people tell you is a lie because you can't tell someone he's ugly so he's destined to die in loneliness. >but there are 5/10 men in relationships These are the guys who constantly try, virtually buy the love of females, and get treated like dirt. This existence is worse than loneliness.
>>25937641 Accepting it is telling ugly men "you are destined to die alone without ever getting love". imagine the implications. everything is decorated in our society, and public despair is not allowed
>>25937672 Well you're wrong. You have guys with lots of money who are also ugly who can score. Slighty famous people(esports) who can also score. There are too many factors. Looks don't matter nearly as much as you assume. Don't get all haughty and act like you're so red pilled because you stayed here for a few days.
>>25937694 Firstly, stop making assumptions. You have no idea how long I've been here. Secondly, so what? I never said it was just looks. For me it's genes and family(wealth/influence). These two things set a threshold for you in life and if you work hard you can get to that threshold, but not higher. The guys you mentioned might not have had looks, but had other things. Oh I almost forgot, there is also luck. So a very little portion of people who shouldn't have made it, do. Thanks to being at the right place on right time.
>>25937706 >sign up for tinder in asia >asian girls faving me left and right and sending me messages >afraid to talk to them because they are all successful and beautiful and i'm still a jobless broke loser
>>25931735 >Always be upfront early on that you want to date her, and if she isn't interested, hit the road and find a different girl. Manbabies don't want to take the risk of rejection, so they decide to hover in relationship purgatory. Their fragile ego can't take rejection.
>>25937787 If he were really attractive he wouldn't even have to try. the girls would flow with the conversation and even take matters in their own hands and arrange a meeting. the mere fact that he's putting in effort tells me he's not very attractive.
>>25937795 >everything else those people tell you is a lie because you can't tell someone he's ugly so he's destined to die in loneliness. >only talks about looks >nothing else >ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE LOOKS GUYS I SWERRR
>>25937872 Oh, I'm sorry, I thought we were on an Anonymous forum!
>they still need to put in effort and practically beg for a women to sleep with them Lol, no. Go for any game, women chase after ez fame and money. I'm 100% sure you will find drama of some sort in every game.
I didn't read anything other than that post, so idc about what your wrote.
>>25937874 She's right though. Kindness is the wrong currency, just like if you put a canadian coin in a soda machine in Texas you'll get fuckall. What really turns women on is fucking excitement and challenge. The weirdest thing I've ever had happen is women super wanting the D after I've pissed them off bantering a bit too hard. I don't understand it but if you can piss a woman off while maintaining your cool and not pushing her to the point where she just drops you, she will respect and want you more.
>>25937902 nah robots are simply not attractive. were they attractive 95% of their problems in the dating scene would be solved. sorry m8 that's just how it is, victim blaming won't do the trick. >spineless easily fixable especially when you're showered with attention from females from a young age which means you'll be confident to begin with. >boring absolutely irrelevant to the question at hand.
>>25938283 Nah man we tell people to go back to tumblr when the misuse the word like SJWs, calling natural expressions of male sexuality misogyny. And then you have textbook misogyny which is just as unreasonable and emotionally charged as SJW feminism. You're a bandwagon faggot who probably rode here on a wave of Redditors, just aping what you see other people do without the ability to think for yourself. Kinda sad.
People are still so deluded and confused that they believe in libertarian "free will", even though it's the current year and L. free will has been thoroughly annihilated by science and logic.
There's some cognitive dissonance going on where even atheist materialists who will rag on God at the drop of a hat will still try to claim belief in L. free will, even though that's not compatible with materialism.
>>25937653 > "nice"(read: spineless). i love how women use this mean to subtly jab at nice people in general. Its one thing to hate insincerity, but most women see this as a way to fuck the badboy, cuck the goodboy
>>25938365 No, it's a jab at spineless people which many people (due to having shit father figures who didn't really teach them to be a man) confuse for "being nice" because it looks the same outwardly.
just wanna say that I'm a balding, 50 pounds underweight wagecuck weeb who still lives with his parents in his late twenties and faps to shotacon and I have a hot, intelligent gf who eats my ass and lets me facefuck her
>>25931618 Nobody thinks girls are sex vending machines
Everybody knows girls are more like nazi robots that have been programmed by evolution to eliminate the genetically inferior from the gene pool. And then they do mental gymnastics to justify why these ugly guys are the bad guys and deserve it.
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