>robots only want a virgin girl
>but don't want to commit to marriage
>want a girl who just wants to date casually
>but somehow hasn't had sex yet
how would this even logically work?
kinda hard to commit if you don't believe in marriage yourself.
And for the case of not wanting used women that were damaged by some other guys. That's common sense and self respect.
It's their niggerish mentality of GIBS ME DAT!
They believe they're entitled to a virgin gf to pump and dump, but it's wrong for a girl to do this. They've created this mentality that they can do no wrong. Pretty much /tumblr/
>tfw you want a virgin girl to commit to
A robot obviously isn't entitled to taking a girl's virginity without marriage. They're just greedy, that's all.
Shut up roastie, i want a grill who will marry me but not take half my shit, is that too much to ask?
Yes, you basically just want to meet a girl and then marry her right away without dating for awhile and having a relationship and expect that marriage to magically work out without any divorce.
If you were to casually date for awhile it would increase your chances of success in a marriage. But you insist the girl must be a virgin, but you won't find any virgins who just want to casually date for awhile.
Modern dating changed for a good reason, because marrying someone without getting to know them first doesn't fucking work.
You fucking faggot cunt, i never said i wanted to meet a girl and marry her.
You just implied that because that is your fantast, to marry some faggot from r9k and take his money while at the same time whoring around with whoever you want, i want a girl who wont whore around and will love me unconditionally, i am willing to do the same and i have had many girls before who are just like your average r9k grill, just an attention whore who will die alone.
Fuck you, i will find someone on my own who has more decency than you will ever have.
>you were to casually date for awhile it would increase your chances of success in a marriage
Statistically incorrect actually
A man's virginity isn't worth as much as a woman's virginity though
>Your income, how long you dated, and how many people attend your wedding affect the odds you'll stay together.
>how long you dated
>Because it's a lot easier and more socially acceptable to get a divorce nowadays
So why the fuck would I want to get married if it's so socially acceptable? Unless divorce laws are changed, guys have no reason to marry when relationships and monogamy offer the same benefits.
You're on /r9k/, please use the board-appropriate version of an image when possible.
Virginity itself isn't worth anything. I wouldn't even care about wanting a virgin if girls weren't repulsed with men being virgins.
I just have better odds with a girl who is also a virgin, even if virgin girls want experienced guys.
Because you've dated someone for awhile and feel like you want to commit further
The longer you date someone, the higher the chance the marriage will work out. And if you date a virgin, they want to get married right away. People who aren't virgins are more likely to date for longer without getting married because they're not as invested in something serious obviously.
Your only other option is to date a virgin for a long time without ever having sex with her, is that what you really want?
>a woman who cares about virginity is going to give it up to some guy she doesn't know if she will marry yet
Sounds likely amirite
>where guys just want a loyal gf who is also a virgin because most guys here are virgins?
i don't want a nonvirgin gf for the same reason i don't want to drink coffee after someones dick has been in it. the closer to other men shes been the more disgusting.
>imlplying a woman can get married these days without fucking someone beforehand
LITERALLY a man is considered a pathetic loser if he wants a woman to be a virgin. Women literally can't handle being a virgin before being married. There's a reason why father's have to literally beat their daughters if they don't want them to slut around. Women just can't think straight.
If a woman didn't care about giving it up to a man without him committing marriage yet she wouldn't stay a virgin for very long.
What you want is impossible. You will never be with a girl who is a virgin unless you commit to marry her.
Here are your options:
>no sex until marriage
>marry her and get sex
>continue to date with no sex
>date a girl who isn't a virgin and has sex with you without having to commit to marriage with her
Which one sounds best to you?
Divorce rate is actually dropping. It only rose because people got married to someone they didn't know well in the 50s and 60s and then they started divorcing in the 70s, 80s and 90s
>But here is the thing: It is no longer true that the divorce rate is rising, or that half of all marriages end in divorce. It has not been for some time. Even though social scientists have tried to debunk those myths, somehow the conventional wisdom has held.
Continue reading the main story
Happily Ever After: How We Know the Divorce Rate Is Falling
>Despite hand-wringing about the institution of marriage, marriages in this country are stronger today than they have been in a long time. The divorce rate peaked in the 1970s and early 1980s and has been declining for the three decades since.
>About 70 percent of marriages that began in the 1990s reached their 15th anniversary (excluding those in which a spouse died), up from about 65 percent of those that began in the 1970s and 1980s. Those who married in the 2000s are so far divorcing at even lower rates. If current trends continue, nearly two-thirds of marriages will never involve a divorce, according to data from Justin Wolfers, a University of Michigan economist
>There are many reasons for the drop in divorce, including later marriages, birth control and the rise of so-called love marriages. These same forces have helped reduce the divorce rate in parts of Europe, too. Much of the trend has to do with changing gender roles -- whom the feminist revolution helped and whom it left behind.
>The marriage trends aren't entirely happy ones. They also happen to be a force behind rising economic and social inequality, because the decline in divorce is concentrated among people with college degrees. For the less educated, divorce rates are closer to those of the peak divorce years.
>Of college-educated people who married in the early 2000s, only about 11 percent divorced by their seventh anniversary, the last year for which data is available. Among people without college degrees, 17 percent were divorced, according to Mr. Wolfers.
>Working-class families often have more traditional notions about male breadwinners than do the college-educated -- yet economic changes have left many of the men in these families struggling to find work. As a result, many wait to achieve a level of stability that never comes and thus never marry, while others split up during tough economic times.
These don't look at demographics. Sure, guys who make 100k have faithful wives, but when most men are making less than women, there's fewer marriages. Women will instead of fucking two guys, marrying for twenty years, and then divorcing but marrying again because strong womyn, will instead fuck 100 guys, marry for one year, and then never marry again. Or never even marry in the first place.
All you have to look at is how every year the percent of women who are 40 who never married goes up about a percent.
>Some of the decline in divorce clearly stems from the fact that fewer people are getting married -- and some of the biggest declines in marriage have come among groups at risk of divorce. But it also seems to be the case that marriages have gotten more stable, as people are marrying later.
you're confusing two different groups of robots on this board
group 1 is really hung up about the girl being a virgin, and actually does want to marry, or at least be in a long-term exclusive relationship.
group 2 just wants sum fuq, and doesn't really want to get married or be more serious than casually dating
group 1 doesn't get anywhere because those kinds of girls are fairly rare, and because they'll naturally place a premium on the man's credentials as a provider, which isn't good if you're a NEET or working a low-end job.
group 2 doesn't get anywhere because a girl who's willing to date or fuck casually doesn't want the man to be inexperienced, because that dramatically increases the chance that she won't have a good time, and because those kinds of girls strongly prefer a guy who's confident and social anyway
Sounds like latin-american countries.
>Guy has sex, hes a stud!
>Girl has sex once, shes a slut!
I read this thing about how in some countries down there, parents hire prostitutes for their teenage sons because they need to be men but that means turning girls into sluts, so guys just bang sluts.
>You're disgusting. Please kill yourself.
>tfw group 2 >>25899191
You know, I wasn't always like this anon. I believed in the notion of love and destiny. But things change. People become bitter and jaded. I just wanna make money and pump hoes. Love is dead and I am nothing but broken.
You're talking out of your ass, literally none of that is true.
Some parents take their son with a prostitute though (but not for that stupid reason). That happens in literally every country.
You keep shitposting this "No True Scotsman" argument
>robots want a slut virgin wife
>"we want a virgin"
>w-well you wouldn't wait until marriage
>"yes we would"
>I'm a normie I'd fuck a virgin before marriage (hehe stupid goys they'll agree with me)
>"no, we'd wait until marriage"
>oy vey better start pretending I'm just "asking innocent questions"
It gets old. Fuck off.
I can't understand what you're trying to say 2bh but robots are individuals. The only thing most robots have in common is being socially awkward, tfw no gf and loli shiet
fuck off. Back to reddit la'
>gettin upset about implying /r9k/ is one person
>usin the standard implication evry shitposter comes from reddit
>bein upset about shitposting in a shit thread
I think what's likely here is that you're confused about what robots want, and probably not a virgin yourself, and angry that something that isn't you is getting worshipful status, so you're resorting to an attempt to shit on our logic based on shit newfags are saying about approving of casual sex at all period. Most of the robots are very offended at the idea of casual sex and want to find a nice virgin to settle down with. Sorry that excludes you from the running.
One can really tell when someone is from reddit, m8. First of all, you used the bait meme wrong.
Second, you pressed enter two times to skip page (REDDIT). And third, your reply was just lame even for a shitpost.
Lurk more and try again in a couple of months lad :^)
Not everyone thinks they need to have sex in order to "validate" a relationship. Internet relationships are a good example of this. You thinking sex is a necessary part of a relationship just shows your modern degeneracy..
I think what he was getting at is that there's no point to relationships if you aren't getting sex or intimacy because otherwise it's no different then just having friends.
You can't kiss, cuddle and fuck your friends (well technically you can but you know what I mean).
I'm waiting for marriage, believe it or not some of us aren't trash. I'd commit to marriage but only after enough time to know that she's the one for me. It's unfortunate how hard this will be to find in a girl.
I'd like someone that share some hobbies with me and isn't morbidly obese. I'm not hideous and I'm not fat. I thin that's a perfectly fine set of standards
Either way I can desire whatever the fuck I want.
The thing is, there is never "the one", because you have to realize she could leave you at any moment because she was wrong about you and found her "one".
I'm not saying to be a degenerate, I'm saying to put so much faith in woman and leave yourself so vulnerable to be hurt so badly. Same applies to those with cunts.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with connecting with a person over the internet. You sound like a huge normie who says things like "come on man it's time to grow up. Go out, meet someone! Just do it! Hit the club if you have to!"
>don't forget robots also what a cute shut in girl that shares all his interests but is also a 10/10 on hotness.
Who doesn't want this? Someone I'm sexually attracted to and real compatible with? I would put a ring on that.
>You can have intimacy without sex
How? Sounds to me like you can only tease one another and build up nothing but sexual frustration.
I don't necessarily want a virgin gf, but someone who "saved themselves for someone special" means more than someone who does actions that imply that they're willing to cuck you the first chance they get.
Men with values will stay loyal, no matter what.
It boils down to "is that so much to ask?"- apparently yes.
Some men will stick around and wait for "the ones who saved themselves for someone special" and willing to stay loyal
Some men will give up on the notion of loyalty, pump and dump, and attract+devalue women who seek loyalty, but in the wrong places. (Confident "pump and dump" guys attract these types that want "loyalty" and misjudge his value)
And most men will just see the whole ordeal as being not worth it. Why risk marriage and losing all your stuff to someone who can do anything they want on a whim, and hold no stake in the construct of loyalty? Yes, it seems entitled to expect women to be 100% committed to you, but it's kind of a "all or nothing" deal for these men. If they can't have what they want, they'll just forget the whole thing and focus elsewhere. Either turning into a pump and dump guy or just becoming reclusive.
RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERT
I want a girl to date seriously with lifelong commitment. Some legal construct of "marriage" has literally nothing to do with this; it doesn't stop normies cheating and fucking around anyway.
It logically works fine if you aren't a retard, or aren't somebody that suckles so hard at the teat of the status quo. Unfortunately OP, you are both those things.
Virginity is really only useful as an indicator of loyalty. If it was a choice between a former slut who was guaranteed to commit and a virgin who would later develop into a flirty Stacy, I would definitely go with the first one.
Talking, doing things together, letting them into your life. Learning to trust and care for them. A romantic relationship is more intimate that a platonic relationship between friends. Cuddling with no sex is still top tier and intimate. I doubt you cuddle friends
What the fuck do I know, to me. To me, everyone on the internet is just an invisible face.
People have actually gotten married from internet relationships. It's just something I could never see happening to me.
>robots only want a virgin girl
WHO DID SAY THIS?, TALK FOR YOU BIIIIIITCH
>but don't want to commit to marriage
>want a girl who just wants to date casually
FUCKING WRONG TOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
>but don't want to commit to marriage
speak for yourself
>tfw no qt wife
I'm emotionally stunted, I wouldn't know how else to be intimate.
I don't know, I always thought of intimacy as closeness. You know, a lot touching and hugging, not just chilling with friends or drinking.
>You know, a lot touching and hugging, not just chilling with friends or drinking.
Not all touching is sexual
Just being close to someone you care about. Hold them close, hold their hand. That's intimate, even if it isn't sexual. And you can talk about more personal things than you do when you're hanging with friends and drinking
Conversations can be intimate too
If you understand the psychology of women, you'd know how mislead your argument is.
Perfectly rational women can and will be swept away by men that are superior/ more exciting than their current mate. It's an evolutionary trait.
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I never really viewed that as intimate. Just felt more like an empty hug. Completely platonic, like a handshake. Like "hey, it's good to see you again" or a goodbye.
Guess I'm more fucked up then I realized. Oh well...
If you KNOW you both like each other and have agreed that you find the other person special and worthy of your exclusivity, it's absolutely intimate in much more than a friendly way.
Women say they're different, but their first go to is the pump-n'-dump Chad
And even if they find their perfect committed bf, they lust for Chad even then. (Committed men don't excite women, unless they are literally on the top of the food chain/ alpha-est of males, which they can't be forever)
That's certainly the rhetoric on /r9k/, but there are absolutely decent women out there. Saying all women are whores who want chad is like saying all men just wanna fuck Stacys and is absolutely not true. Some of us actually want commitment.
Yeah that's the division I was going for.
With friends, it's never really intimate, just platonic. No warm gushy feelings inside.
But with someone I like sexually, it's a lot more different. Way more. Like a full warm embrace.
>all men just wanna fuck Stacys and is absolutely not true
Not the most popular girl, but all men DO want a good looking girl (sometimes standards have to be lowered) that gives them attention.
Inherently, this need for that attention may make these men desperate. Some men who get their fill of feminine attention don't feel the need to grasp for it, and are therefore confident. And that confidence emits the aura of "other women like me" and "I am an attractive mate"
>Some of us actually want commitment.
This isn't complicated.
I feel like your response to this will be that I'm a creep/ I'm too demanding, but I feel as though this is pretty much the root cause for a lot of my emotions/ desires clearly labelled, and their problematic nature makes me want to avoid the whole ordeal.
At least, avoid it until I find a girl who will give me attention. I'm not a greasy neckbeard fattie. I'm actually fairly attractive/ ambitious myself, and HAVE had some female attention in the past. (Never had my first kiss/ never lost my virginity however)
Like you're saying, the whole Chad/Stacy thing is just about attractiveness. Yes, everyone wants someone they consider to be attractive. No, not everyone puts that before all else.
Starting to think i'm not a robot. There are few things i can relate to with robots but even less with normies. This maybe due to the fact that i recognize that my emotions and reaction to stimuli can be to a large degree attributed to my genes. The moment i think i have feelings for a women it is crushed by the cruel realization that this emotion has risen from years of evolution, yet despite this i exist which means the genes i contain are good at creating successful survival machines which means i will most likely have children at some point in the future.
Nigga I would fuck everyone over 18 and with a pulse at this point
No, it isn't just about attractiveness. Men want someone good looking and loyal. That's it. They can be comfortable with having women hang around other men, or having had previous relationships/ fucked other men before.
Those guys will be comfortable... Until their naivety takes a fall when reality catches up.
You know how some things, like stereotypes, just frustrate you every time they're exemplified?
Well, imagine if you can pinpoint the behaviour/ intentions of women that has this "always looking for Chad" attitude. Even after they settle. Like, spotting it inherently in their nature/ every interaction they have.
I know all women don't SEEM to be like this, but there's always a "... god fucking dammit" moment every time it makes itself true in the women you had the highest hopes for.
This constant disappointment/ awareness is why men resort to pump and dump/ never seeking women altogether.
This is no longer "WAAAA I CAN'T HAVE MY TOYS!!!"- these disappointed men will still drop everything to be with a woman that shows them attention. They just realize the reality of the fact that it's more of a novelty/ unreal expectation, and don't want to pressure anyone/ expect it.
Chad/Stacy is pretty much about social success/attractiveness/outward superficial shit.
You're talking like guys are the only ones who fall for Stacys and Stacys are the only ones with bullshit.
Regarding the whole "imagine seeing a stereotype everywhere" thing, yeah, it sounds like you're definitely doing that and that it's enforcing your views.
I don't have "god fucking damn it" moments" with women because I keep my guard up and won't let it down unless I detect some quality in a woman.
Saying men act promiscuous due to disappointment with women is also a blanket statement designed to rationalize men's bad behavior. Just as there are countless sluts and whores, there are men who try very hard to prey on women sexually, and that's on them.
Men who drop everything for attention from a woman are just as bad as women who hop in bed with every man they're attracted to.
Some of us continue to stubbornly attempt to discern between shit and quality, regardless of gender. I know this is against the general woman-hating on this board, but I find it to be reasonable for everyone to take responsibility for their actions.
>Chad/Stacy is pretty much about social success/attractiveness/outward superficial shit.
>You're talking like guys are the only ones who fall for Stacys and Stacys are the only ones with bullshit.
I'm not sure what you're thinking
When I say Stacy/ girls in general, don't think of popular girls or simply attractive girls. Think "your average woman." Someone that will still obviously get attention from guys (inherently a thing that happens) but she's perhaps independent or secluded. You know, someone respectable. Nice. Holds values. Not a party slut that fucks everyone.
THESE women are still the ones which cuck John when Chad shows up. THESE women still don't think cheating on their husband is that big of a deal- the ones that don't understand the type of loyalty guys come to expect. These are the women that are actually most prone to the "It just... It just happened and I got carried away... Chad was just super attractive that night..."
And when this happens with very quality women, that just seals the deal. We just go "alright then, so it's either put up with that, pump and dump, or solitude."
REGARDLESS, still keeping an eye out for quality/ discerning it. But it's a losing battle, and even perfect women that are already taken still end up disappointing.
No, I'm not saying "women who cheat are quality"
I'm saying even the best quality women who seem like they'd never cheat/ be soulmates for life- they still end up cheating. There's no woman who isn't mentally ill that will ACTUALLY in practice stick with a man for all his life. At least not as much in the modern era. Women who do seem to be capable of doing this are moreso outliers.