I would like them more if they were genuine right-wingers, desu. But the majority of them just hate Islam, Islam, Islam.
They hate Islam for all the wrong reasons. Every single fucking day there is a "WHAT'S WRONG WITH HOMOSEXUALITY!?" thread there, that immediately gets filled with tumblrina bullshit about how it's okay to be gay and how you are a Muslim if you're opposed to fags and how we have to save women from those evil Muslims who are opposed to muh women's rights.
It's Ron Paultards 2016 = Libertarians who hate Islam now.
A bunch of angry disenfranchised mostly middle class 18-23 year olds who long for a sense of purpose. Mostly right, can pretty funny and clever. Pompous windbags with an over inflated ego, they tend to think they're smarter than they are because they can post pics of racial data that someone else took the time to compile, and because they can regurgitate rhetoric other People have developed. Pretty good for making tumblr retards upset. Can get very annoying injecting their discussions into places it doesn't belong, so they can scoff and feel smug about how everyone else is an idiot and how they've got it all figured out. All in all, i kinda like pol.
I mean, if you don't believe me, go there and make a thread in opposition to gays (that will immediately get flooded with "nice try, ahmed" libertarians) and a thread in opposition to neo-conservative foreign policy (a la war against Iran), that will also immediately get flooded with "Crusade now" sheit.
Come to think of it, that's not libertarian then, of course. In that regard you would be right then, of course.
>They believe in racism, nationalism and xenophobia >they think objectively wrong stances (see above) have historical justification because "it worked for x all white dictatorship" (who lost their war/rein ultimately meaning it didn't) >most of the gunfags claim to have killed "niggers in self defense" then when you call them out on it they give you stories that are just impossibly heroic on their part.
>>25897800 A place to argue about current events and politics freely. Also a place to mess with crazy people of all kinds.
>>25897907 /pol/ is not one person with one view point. One of the interesting things about /pol/ is the large difference of view on literally everything no matter how petty or well established. You will have people argue that the world is flat and jews don't care about money.
>>25898366 >Islam is anti-liberty to the extreme in any place where it gains a foot hold.
That's not the point, tho.
The problem, for me, is when political movements that are themselves critical of Western defintions of "liberty" ("Bake my cake or go to prison!"), and critical of Western imperialism in the name of "democracy" and "women's rights" are hijacked by a bunch of weirdos who try to turn them into anti-Islam libertarianism/neo-conservatism.
>>25898073 >Pompous windbags with an over inflated ego, they tend to think they're smarter than they are because they can post pics of racial data that someone else took the time to compile, and because they can regurgitate rhetoric other People have developed. This sums up what I would have said.
>>25900439 I'm not "redpilled", if that's what you mean. I don't think I deserve a girlfriend or that everyone are inherently inferior to me or whatever delusional nonsense most people on here believe. Nor am I paranoid. I don't think there are lizardmen controlling us, just rich wankers whose sole interest is making money
/pol/ is a board that seems to have forgotten that it's views are completely batshit insane with no basis in the real world, so it uses other /pol/ posts to back up current /pol/ posts and pretend it was right about things.
The people that visit /pol/ are largely unsuccessful Americans who are looking for someone other than themselves to blame for their lackluster performance in life.
>>25897800 People who pride themselves on being right wing and traditional when they aren't genuine traditionalists. I've seen maybe 3 people on /pol/ advocate for anything remotely traditional. There are more genuine traditionalist people on that shithole /his/ Probably because NatSoc shit is autobanned so genuine traditionalism instead of edgy modernism can exist
Also it's not just white men who use their race to define themselves. Non-whites and women do this far more, and it's completely acceptable.
>"I'm proud of being white" "RACISSSTTTT!!!!!"
>"Kill all white men! Die cis-scum!" "You go girl!"
>>25897907 Yeah, I'm opposed to Islam too, and I hate how hypersensitive SJWs get about it, but having a serious conversation about it with anyone on /pol/ or /b/ is impossible. None of them are smart enough to look into the background of modern terrorism and realize the the US helped jumpstart it by overthrowing secular dictators that were starting to modernize their countries.
They are one of the last barriers against normalfag invasions. A lot of good users left when joot fucked with the board, now it's basically /int/ shitposting and shit flinging on steroids with some political "discussion" every now and then, but I like it.
>>25900750 >None of them are smart enough to look into the background of modern terrorism and realize the the US helped jumpstart it by overthrowing secular dictators that were starting to modernize their countries. Don't forget mass slaughtering their own citizens, too.
>>25898073 A bunch of angry disenfranchised mostly lower class urban 18-23 year olds who long for a sense of purpose. Mostly thugs, can pretty funny and clever. Pompous windbags with an over inflated ego, they tend to think they're smarter than they are because they can sample beats that someone else took the time to compile, and because they can smoke crack other people have developed. Pretty good for making tumblr retards upset when they get themselves shot by police. Can get very annoying injecting their antics into places they don't belong, so they can scoff and feel smug about how everyone else is a bitch-ass cracka and how they've got it all figured out. All in all, i kinda like niggers.
>>25898366 Yeah, but they aren't able to have any sort of logical discussion. It's all just pictures of Qurans in toilets, and repeating the same out of context verses. You can't have a serious conversation about what's actually going on.
>>25900180 I could say the same about anyone who believes the races and the sexes are statistically equal, anyone who believes that the average person is kind enough not to destroy and kill in the absence of authority, and anyone who believes that letting in refugees from a war zone is a good idea.
>Ressentiment is a sense of hostility directed at that which one identifies as the cause of one's frustration, that is, an assignment of blame for one's frustration. The sense of weakness or inferiority and perhaps jealousy in the face of the "cause" generates a rejecting/justifying value system, or morality, which attacks or denies the perceived source of one's frustration. This value system is then used as a means of justifying one's own weaknesses by identifying the source of envy as objectively inferior, serving as a defense mechanism that prevents the resentful individual from addressing and overcoming their insecurities and flaws. The ego creates an enemy in order to insulate itself from culpability.
>>25900876 Wait, you're not one of those jet fuel guys, are you? It's true that US foreign policy indirectly caused 9/11, and it's not impossible that Israeli intelligence may have known about it and failed to notify the US, but I don't believe there was any "inside job".
It's people who believe the really crazy conspiracy theories that make the people who want to have a serious discussion look bad by association.
>>25901293 no thats an objective truth that you wouldn't be able to pick up on with common sense. but the common sensical conclusion is that male and females communicate differently, behave differently and see the world from a more compassionate view rather than objectively. This of course paves the way for a lot of autism between the two genders.
Let's try this again: >The sense of weakness or inferiority and perhaps jealousy in the face of the "cause" generates a rejecting/justifying value system, or morality, which attacks or denies the perceived source of one's frustration. This value system is then used as a means of justifying one's own weaknesses by identifying the source of envy as objectively inferior, serving as a defense mechanism that prevents the resentful individual from addressing and overcoming their insecurities and flaws.
Women have played different roles than men, sure. That doesn't make them objectively or inherently 'inferior' in any way, sense, or form.
>>25900961 They're economically right-wing in the sense they support low taxes, hate healthcare, etc.
This is what US libertarianism is, they support the free market and corporations' and banks' right to dick things up, but they also support things like legalized drugs, all form of sexual deviancy minus pedophilia, etc.
>>25897907 /pol/ hates gays, don't think otherwise. I think of myself as trhe average /pol/ poster, I pretend to care about faggots because it provides me with a brilliant way to appeal to shit on Islam to normies without getting 'DAS RAYSIS' because I hate muzzies a lot more than I hate faggots at the moment, but if there were no muzzies it would be faggots I'd be directing the hate at, make no mistake.
I think your pic sums up sectarian groups in general, aside from maybe those that are strictly the result of cultural indoctrination.
To be fair though, the same can be said for legitimate examples of "SJW" groups. They piggyback real civil rights causes and use them as an excuse to lash out at society for unrelated reasons. /pol/ and tumblrinas are just different sides of the same coin. Contrary to what /pol/ wants you to believe however, tumblr has not pervaded 4chan on any level. In whatever schizophrenic version of reality /pol/lacks are living in, they think anyone who even shows mild support for civil rights causes is a foaming-at-the-mouth feminist who wants to castrate all men and regulate all forms of expression.
>>25901559 So? Why is it our business? No one asked for the US to charge in and rescue them. The US was founded on oppression and mass slaughter too, most countries went through a violent period before stabilizing. If the US had kept out of Iraq it would be a fairly stable place right now. Do you really think ISIS is preferable to Hussein's government? And do you really think that a true revolution can come from or be funded by an outside power? And do you think the military, banks, etc. were really motivated by a desire to help Iraq/Vietnam/etc.? The US has supported, either directly or indirectly, plenty of governments who mass slaughter their people.
>>25901768 You (she?) attempted to redefine or deny "inferiority" as a concept, to a degree you probably don't even follow, instead of actually arguing the issue at hand. This is a very common tactic women and leftists use.
>>25901655 yeah well I don't have any other way to describe and not come off autistic than saying "compassionate" but yeah that's essentially it. Women operate in a world ruled by feelings which is problematic when they're confronted with the reality of things because their natural conditioning to believe human's aren't ruled by greed and we're above animals just doesn't compute. but to be fair deviations from the mean do exist. I've met some women that I respect very much for having overwritten their neurological hardwiring by being able to observe things in a ration manner. These are the women who are capable of firm introspection and are really worth your time simply because of the novelty.
>>25901890 >If the US had kept out of Iraq it would be a fairly stable place right now. Cool! I thought people who can predict the future only existed in fiction! But really, you can't tell me that Saddam wouldn't have invaded Iran again or successfully genocided the Kurdish people amongst many other possibilities if he had been left in power. >And do you really think that a true revolution can come from or be funded by an outside power? I certainly don't think the people of Iraq had any chance in hell of successfully revolting against Saddam, he would've simply slaughtered dissidents. Why is it that US intervention in South Korea and Japan and West Germany was relatively successful in stabilising those nations? I find your other questions too absurd to expect me to answer.
>>25901601 Yea, you're fucked. The faggots are also using you, you're just helping them get rid of an enemy that they need gone at the moment, and once it's done you'll go back to being irrelevant and powerless. Not that it matters since most of you faggots on /r9k/ and /pol/ are gay/bi anyways.
>>25902502 If the Kurds were threatening the stability of the nation, it's not surprising that they would be killed. Killing people isn't "bad" if it protects the greater good, is it? If a group of people in the US presented a serious threat to government and society, the government would have no problem killing them all, and it wouldn't bother me.
Do you really think the US cared deeply about the Kurds, or about Iran's security? No, it's all about protecting Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states (all US allies with oil, mostly absolute monarchies far more religious than Hussein's government) from being taken over by Iraq. It's why the US attacked Iraq for invading Kuwait, but supported it when it invaded Iran earlier.
You seem to have this idea that democracy is "good" and genocide is "bad", but it doesn't always work out that way in reality. Sometimes I hope there's a violent revolution here, just so Americans like you can finally experience what they've inflicted on the rest of the world. "Freedom" will come to you in the form of Jamal and Trayvon breaking down your door and killing your whole family, and after the initial slaughtering is done, and once all the intelligent and rich people have been killed or left the country, all the revolutionaries will turn on each other and create a government just as bad or worse than the previous one.
>>25904263 Nothing on principle, but unions and workers were used by subversive elements to attack society at large.
Same with the Civil Rights movement - equal access to education and jobs sounds nice, but plenty of people (especially Jews) abused the movement without necessarily caring about the people it was meant to help.
>>25904294 I mean culturally, you celebrate Christmas don't you?
>>25904638 Zionists are still the problem f a m. Israel has literally no right to exist and causes a lot more problems than it solves. I don't subscribe to the Jewish conspiracy but Israel has a history of shady shit.
>>25904263 I'm the original. Trade unions are pretty corrupt and ever since they were created they have been forced into compliance by the government (at least in my country). Also, they claim to defend the average worker but when the average worker is not part of the union, they are against the union. My mum was assaulted when she had just start as a student nurse (not hurt) by union workers who claimed she was scab labour.
>>25904795 >I mean culturally, you celebrate Christmas don't you? my parents still give me presents but i don't have anyone to buy presents for. i have no gf, it's weird to give my guy friends gifts, and my parents make fucktons more money than me there is no reason for me to buy them something
>>25904965 yes but christians believe in the new testament as the holy book and jews do not. the jewish religion claims that jews are 'chosen' by their tribal wargod yaweh to be the owners and rulers of the whole world. they literally worship a racist supremacist god. christianity and islam are universalist and anyone can join and be saved. jews are born into it and you remain a jew since birth even if you are an atheist
I think it's extremely liberating to see that there's still a place on the internet not ruled by the leftist groupthink that's so pervasive in journalism and media. Sure, it's just another form of groupthink, but still.
>>25904795 >Israel has literally no right to exist Why not? They've done some things wrong, and I think the US should stay out of the conflict more, but Israel isn't nearly as evil as the media makes it out to be. The most violent stealing of Palestinian land was done by radical paramilitary groups during the 40s. Most countries were founded violently. No one argues against the US's right to exist because they genocides millions.
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