I would never spank my kids if I had any, but I almost definitely won't have any kids.
There are studies though that had tied physical punishment (even spanking) to antisocial behavior and mental/emotional problems. I think we all know too that the worst thing about being punished as a kid was not physical pain, but rather the guilt you felt for having done something wrong.
>hitting a child is NEVER right!!! I would NEVER hit my children!! >instead I pump them full of these new expensive experimental behavioral drugs which we do not know the long term effects of >and if that doesn't work I reward them for good behavior instead of punishing them for bad behavior thereby breeding a generation of entitlement & expectation
Children learn by pain. You can tell a child "don't touch fire you'll get burned" but until they inevitably burn themselves behind your back they just don't get it because they do not yet have reason developed. Pain teaches all of us that things are sharp, that wasps are dangerous, etc.
If you truly love your child you will beat them when they mouth off or act up. Because if you don't hit your child for these poor behaviors, someone else someday will. don't spank your daughter though because hitting the female ass sends a shockwave of nerve impulses directly to the clitoris causing stimulation & forced arousal which will give her daddy issues and make a lot of pedophiles happy, just slap her wrist instead
>>25894911 One way to look at it is that they're not only learning to associate pain with doing the wrong thing (which is usually not the wrong thing, but the thing you don't like). They're also learning from you how to handle any situation. You're upset with them and you're using physical violence as a means to resolve conflict or to feel better yourself. That makes it seem like being violent is acceptable.
I don't know about you guys, but I don't want to raise some hard ass jungle nigger
>>25894987 >One way to look at it But that's the wrong way to look at it, and it'd take acts of willful ignorance and/or denial to accept such a spinoff.
Assuming you aren't Irish or a Nigger of a Drunkard, you know to reserve yourself when you hit your child, and you do not feel personal satisfaction for taking up the responsibility of doing such. It hurts you as well, but you know it's better than them showing the same behavior to some 7 foot nigger on a subway someday and getting the living shit kicked out of them because you failed at raising your child better.
>>25895134 >Idk it must be a mammal thing but when someone no shit grabs the nape of my neck I'm pretty helpless When my cat had kittens she'd smack them around and pick them up by the back of the neck where they got too carried away trying to mess with her.
>>25894994 Not that guy but all getting spanked did for me was piss me off and get me to hide my wrongdoings better. If my parents would've sat me down and talked to me about why it was wrong I might have actually been sorry and learned not to do bad things. Kids are smarter than people think, you can teach them by sitting them down and talking to them like a human being.
>>25894911 >You can tell a child "don't touch fire you'll get burned" but until they inevitably burn themselves behind your back they just don't get it
Bullshit, I knew I'd get burned for touching fire way before burning myself for the first time. It's like saying kids don't understand when you tell them "don't jump from that building or you'll die". That's major bullshit
>>25894370 >acceptable Acceptable or not is a social parameter, who cares about that. Your question should be about (mental) health. Spanking is pretty weird, there are other non-sexual corporal punishment that you can use to discipline a kid.
You can't cut off a bit of your son's dick and slap his ass and wonder why he's fucked in the head. It's like japanese mothers who jerk off their sons to "help them fall asleep" who wonder why they end up with a psychotic oedipal fucker hiki/NEET suicidal pedo-homo.
I'm pretty sure spanking contributed to make me a faggot.
>>25895980 >Bullshit Well one anecdote vs another, I did touch a stove top just to see how hot is hot Twice
> It's like saying kids don't understand when you tell them "don't jump from that building or you'll die" There's a difference between testing limits and doing something totally irrational. For instance I would jump off the second bunk of my bunk bed as a child but not the second story of the house.
>>25894706 >There are studies though that had tied physical punishment (even spanking) to antisocial behavior and mental/emotional problems
That's probably because excessive spanking is correlated with income, race, IQ, etc. Also the kids who act up and get spanked more were probably more mentally fucked up to begin with.
Is spanking "good"? Of course not, but the alternatives like medication can be just as bad or worse. Same thing in schools - a few decades ago kids with "ADHD" would just be thwacked by the teacher with a ruler instead of medicated and told they have a special snowflake learning disability.
>>25894370 People say spanking gives kids discipline but this is clearly bullshit. Go to just about any ghetto and see how disciplined the kids are. The people I know who got the most spankings ended up being huge degenerates who lack any impulse control.
>>25898356 That's because they were already genetically predisposed to violence and degeneracy to begin with. Their parents were probably stupid too, and overused spanking, and didn't combine it with a reasoning approach.
Obviously physical punishments are more common among stupid, fucked up populations, but that doesn't mean that the spanking itself caused the problems, or that it's always bad.
>>25898351 That's what happen when technology took control over our life. If I ever have children, I'll make sure to restrict Tv, internet and video games times to 2 hour a day. and for everything else, I'll manage to have a parent stay at home to raise the kids unlike that previous generation who failed to do their work as parents.
>>25898440 Spanking doesn't cause problems but it doesn't solve them. Also most parents who spank their kids are trying to do something that is impossible("do as I say not as I do). If you can't do what you expect your kids to do yourself don't get mad when they fail to do them
>>25898351 >Except society started decaying more after beating became less frequent. crime rates among young white people are the lowest they've ever been. A young white man in the 60s commited far more crime than his modern equivalent. Also there's Europe, where physical punishment is almost unheard of, and like no crime outside of isis supporters
Spanking is teaching kids that violence solves problems and studies have shown that it results in more anxiety. Also, whether you are angry or not you can be assured your child is going to look at it as you taking out your anger on them, making them hate you and misbehave even more. Just fucking send them to timeout or take away some of their toys. Jeez.
>>25900406 it's an unalienable right apparently to punish your kid by smacking his bare ass, THE ONLY CONCEIVABLE WAY to show him right from wrong (which will probably turn him into some kind of serial killer or sexual deviant).
I don't know where these people get it. My mom said she didn't think spanking was the right thing to do but that she didn't know how else to handle things. I'm not going to use her mistakes as an example for how I should treat my own children.
T B H I think this differs per culture/society/era. My parents are mudslimes and used to beat the shit out of me even though we live in the west. I turned out a piece of shit. All my cousins who still live in Arabia got beaten and are perfectly fine normies. Maybe my parents overdid it or I'm just a special little boy, but I don't think so. Just like seeing a murder these days could traumatize someone for a long time, while it was pretty much normal in the middle ages (don't quote me I get my info from game of thrones).
when i was a kid, my parents would either spank me or make me isolate myself from my friends. Had to ignore them. I think it's part of the reason I became a robot-leaning cyborg. I just learned secrecy and hate for them from it.
Look at it this way I have about 4 friends, 2 of which (plus me) had physical punishment as a child including spanking, cane, belt etc. Not beating them up or fucked shit like that. The three of us turned out normal. We respect elders and are generally nice to other people. The two that didnt get hit turned out to be spoiled little shits that are rude and arrogant to everyone they meet, and had to be put in the class witg autists and adhd kids.
>>25901348 Nice anecdote, I have one too. Me and two of my cousins were never beat. Our parents always sat us down and explained why thing were wrong. We all have decent jobs and are pretty happy. Three of my other cousins got spanked as children. One's in jail for beating his wife to near death, and the other two have shitty jobs and always seem depressed.
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