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Why were Diogenes' actions fabricated or exaggerated?

He barely wrote anything on cynicism and Plato pointed out his hypocrisy a few times.

>It is said that Diogenes trampled upon Plato's carpets with the words "I trample upon the pride of Plato", who retorted, "Yes, Diogenes, with pride of another sort."

He was pretty much autistic in my opinion. Were normies just being hipster by trying to pretend they liked him?

Who was the true cynic?
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He wanted to be a gadfly like his hero Socrates, but ended up being a tryhard.
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Diogenes was the first furry in history, he wanted to be a dog.
You should follow someone respectable like Cicero.
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>>25841260
Funny thing is Plato said Diogenes was Socrates with a few screws missing. Can't be bothered to find the quote but I think it's funny.

There seemed to have been a lot of shenanigans back then. Like when Plato referred to man as a featherless bird or something and Diogenes plucked all the feathers off a chicken, went to Plato's academy and threw it in front of him saying "Behold, a man!".
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>>25841329
>Cicero
>Praising an unimaginative turd that stole everything.

Come on, senpai.
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>>25841332
>Diogenes plucked all the feathers off a chicken, went to Plato's academy and threw it in front of him saying "Behold, a man!"
lol so randumb xD
were these really the revered great ancient intellectuals?
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>>25841381
>Has not read any philosophy

You ain't showing that the philosophers were stupid, only that you are.
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>>25841332
>>25841381

Basically he was a Greek robot
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>>25841332
It was a featherless biped, not a bird.
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>>25841483
>that cup bit

Holy fucking shit.
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>>25841095
>He barely wrote anything on cynicism
He didn't need to write anything, his life told the story.
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>>25841556
I'm just pointing out that most of the work is falsely attributed to him when one of his students/whatever did all the writing.
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>>25841095
>dog has a collar

would dogs have had collars in those days?
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He was well-respected because he had a thorough understanding of logical validity and socio-political context vs the human condition, which enabled him to keep philosophers who were saying things based off of their authority alone in check. He pointed a huge finger at how meaningless/benign things can be taken extremely seriously in society, as though such behavior/actions were written within the fabric of reality. That made him extremely important in a setting where 99% of philosophers were sucking on the dicks of nobles.

Pic unrelated.
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>>25841483
that is legit autism

smug fucker
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>>25841701
He wasn't the first cynic, he only contributed in public opinion and disregarding the major philosophers. He took the glory for cynicism, unintentionally.
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>>25841369
I prefer the term inspired but at least he stole the best parts and that's all that matters. He said on a board for OC.
>No one was ever great without some portion of divine inspiration.
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>>25841483
I really like that Alexander bit. Not cos of the edgy response but because of the one Alexander gave.

He didn't say he would want to be like Diogenes, the implication was that if he wasn't the symbol for his bloodline, for the empire, the great strategist, unifying the nations etc, he'd stand for what Diogenes was standing for. He spoke of the view of the symbol behind the name/man, rather than themselves individually.

Great amount of respect and understanding between the two.
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>>25841855
I'm not really talking about the school of cynicism, in which case the first philosopher of that school was a hunter/gatherer on a hill shaking his head at some agriculturalists working hard in a field in the middle east somewhere around twelve thousand years ago, more of his context in greek philosophy and why he is known at all.

The whole story about the plucked chicken demonstrates that philosophers were able to make claims unchecked based on their authority, and that he would demonstrate the pure lack of logic of some of these claims. There weren't a lot of people educated enough and/or willing to do that at the time, and he took it to the next level by putting his money where his mouth is and being smug while living in filth. Of course he's going to be recognized for that. The thing about cynicism is, it doesn't look good on paper, but it looks great in action, and he demonstrated that in a setting where actions and events were recorded on paper.
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Diogenes was a smelly hipster faggot living in a barrel who jerked off in public.

If he was alive today I have no doubt that he would be running around shouting BLACK LIVES MATTER, FIGHT THE PATRIARCHY.
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>>25842096
There are thousands of diogenes around the world right now, in the form of smug hobo crusties where literally nothing bothers them other than not having alcohol. You could pull a knife on them and they'd laugh at you and pull their dick out.
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>>25842061
>plebs circle-jerking over their favorite philosopher
just like this thread then?
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>>25842171
Don't be silly, there are superior philosophers in history.
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>>25841095
>Who was the true cynic?
I don't know, probably Antisthenes
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>>25841095

>He barely wrote anything on cynicism and Plato pointed out his hypocrisy a few times.

From what we know, Diogenes did write a lot though. His writings just didn't survive.

And hell, even assuming he wrote nothing about cynicism, he pretty much was cynicism incarnate anyway.
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>>25841095
A big part of cynicism is leading by example rather than through careful study. Diogenes lived as an extreme example of cynicism to better show it's values. Like blowing up an image to get a better look. Normies do pretend to like him though, you're not wrong. He'd have wiped sperm all over their smug, materialistic smiles though I assure you.
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>On seeing the son of a prostitute throwing stones into a crowd, Diogenes said, 'Take care that you don't hit your father!'
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