I can understand why a woman would want a strong dominant man, but why do they enjoy things like abuse/rape fantasies?
From a biological point of view a strong male would have better genes and would be a better choice for protecting both her and her offspring, but what's the advantage of being attracted to abusive males? I know most women only like it in a "roleplay" or "simulated" scenario, but why is it a turn on in the first place?
Are you saying most women experience some sort of self hatred?
I'm not saying it's bad, i'm just trying to understand the reasons why it's so appealing to such a vast majority of women.
A violent man is more able to protect his family because he's not afraid of being violent. I also kinda agree with the anon that said submissive people have some level of self hatred. If you actually listen to women talk a lot of them hate themselves to varying degrees. It's why clothing and makeup is so popular with them. They're trying to hide what they hate.
Maybe it's the compensation for living in a feminist society. In a healthy Patriarchy, women would simply want a strong, dominant man, period. But now we live in a feminist matriarchy and the more power women have over men, the more radical forms of "escapism" and compensation they choose.
My grandmother for instance once said that the world will go down the toilet once women rule because they are so "bitchy". She was definitely right-wing, conservative or, depending on your point of view, either very anti-feminist or had "internalized misogyny".
However, when she found out about 50 Shades of Grey on some TV show, she was utterly shocked and said that she would have immediately left my grandfather if he would have ever done something like that to her.
Today it is the other way around: feminist sluts who need hardcore rape and domination fantasies as a compensation.
usually in tribal societies men tend to guard their women
if someone rapes a woman he sure as hell would face some sanctions from it because nobodys gonna have you raping their daughter or sister and getting away with it
so rapes generally only happe, with tribalist societies, in tribal wars, when a tribe crushes another and takes their women
and from an evo psych stand point this is extremely desirable because the stronger guys won and now women get to be impregnated with the superior seed of the winners