Everyone here is always complaining about sex. Lack thereof, desire to not be a virgin, other people having sex and not them, etc.
Anyone else just desire companionship?
I wish I had a girl to hang out with and be in love with. Sex is just a byproduct. I just want to really connect with someone.
Me too anon. I've always wanted a good and close friend/girlfriend.
Sex is overrated anyways.
I don't care if it is a girl or boy, I just want someone to talk about stuff with, who won't judge me, even if I sperg suddenly about some random topic and someone who I can listen to. Just some human person to interact with on a regular basis, even if we will never see each other
Nobody here actually only wants to get laid except the normies who have taken over. Us robots only really want a gf who we can hold hands with and not be sad and alone.
What the fuck does that even mean? Human relations are just the acquisition and exploitation of commodities (money, social currency, knowledge, abilities, other self-image related ideas) for the purpose of creating and perpetuating value for yourself.
BTW: everyone dies alone.
I'm not saying I'm not interested in sex. But if I could choose between having sex with a hooker right now or just sitting and really talking with someone interesting that liked me, I'd choose the second one.
I'm not a virgin so I can't really say how other people feel, but I like cuddling and kissing more.
Actually I think most people here are like that. Now I can't prove it I'm really only speaking for myself but it think virginity is more of a symptom than the cause hence why robots don't just hire a whore. The reason they focus on to is because it's easier to explain your isolation by just saying virgin then writing out a whole thing about loneliness
I just want someone to acknowledge me the way I am. I know I'm weird, and have a odd sense of humour, I know that I don't dress like the way I act. But goddammit, I just want a buddy or a close friend.
Women aren't going to care about you and put effort towards companionship. They're only good for sex and they use that to exploit men and live life on easy mode.
If you just want companionship then find a friend.
>I could never actually be me.
>tfw none of my friends actually know what I do in my spare time
>tfw I'm terrible at making new friends, so I don't want to reveal the things I actually like in case they reject me
it's not just sex
it's like being in a room that's dark and you reach out for a wall you know should be there but it's just not there no matter how much you wish it was and then you realize the wall was never there.
And it hurts to have no-one to reach out to, especially when it's a thing most people take for granted. Eventually the pangs of loneliness subside and all you get is an odd sense of emptiness and dissatisfaction with life every now and then before you distract yourself again. Each time you look at a group of friends or a couple out in public, a mix of inadequacy, defensiveness comes up, because people get to make fun of you or think worse of you because you feel bad and don't have what they have, which becomes a self-perpetuating problem because you can't reach out to anyone because you can't reach out to anyone.
Don't fucking even get me started on the lack of intimacy or physical intimacy. Normies take cuddling and hugging for granted. There are couples out there right now who trust each other and love each other and want each other to feel safe and comfortable and no where in the forseeable future will anyone ever think the same about you. No one loves you and being able to sense just the body warmth of another person standing close to you is a unique experience that stands out for weeks.
Oh and don't ever admit to feeling like that, no one wants to know or get to know someone who feels like that so you just have to lie and pretend and if you lie how can you reach out to someone.
just fuck my shit up
>Anyone else just desire companionship?
Yes. Sex is not something I seek or desire at all.
My ideal relationship would just be a bestfriend who I would
cuddlein the nude/semi-nude. Purest form of sharing love. I wouldn't want for anything more.
>oh and don't ever admit to feeling like that, no one wants to know or get to know someone who feels like that so you just have to lie and pretend and if you lie how can you reach out to someone.
Me too anon.
There's a girl I really feel a genuine connection to. I think she feels something for me to. I met her on 4chan actually. I'm so anxious about going forward though because this is the most precious relationship I have in my life right now and I don't want to ruin it. She's the only person I really talk to. I hope she's not reading this right now.
Don't let the standards of society warp your own. It seems that you're just using that as an excuse to negate the fact that you want a feminine touch of someone you're sexually attracted to.
Fuck, this is all exactly true. Someone should probably screencap it.
>especially when it's a thing most people take for granted
This so much. They seem to do it so easily, but we have to manually socialise and therefore fail.
Right now the pangs of loneliness are coming back. They were gone for a bit over christmas and new year, and my contract got extended at work, so that distracted me. But now it's becoming very clear that I have no-one in my life when others do.
I think he means intimacy, which isn't necessarily sex, but is more than you can get from friends.
Normies literally cannot comprehend being deprived of physical and emotional contact. Telling a normie you've never had a girlfriend or had sex is like telling them you've never taken a shit.
By limiting it to a feminine touch you're only willing to engage in companionship with someone could be sexual in nature with. That is not companionship, that is an intimate romance.
Yes, intimacy goes beyond general companionship, but even some friendships offer forms of intimacy such as hugs and cuddling. Only accepting this from someone they could see in a sexual light leads it to have a sexual undertone instead of having a nature of pure companionship.
Yes they do. You're just too blinded by the stigma to see it.
That makes it harder to tell if you're actually seeking anything sexual in nature. It sounds like you're a bisexual with a heavy feminine preference though and are still looking for some sort of intimate connection on that level.
>Yes they do. You're just too blinded by the stigma to see it.
I'm totally not in the "ewww being gay is icky" mindset, I even wanted to cuddle with a couple of guys before, but it's definitely more inline with that physical touch sensation of comfort.
You are deluded or simply a woman.
Mother issues are different than a need for companionship. Your mother was supposed to be your caretaker and nurture you through youth in a one sided manner. Being devoid of that is certainly a reason to long for it in the time after, but it is different than general companionship. Companionship is more of a two way street where each person helps the other.
Mother issues also have a tendency to manifest as sexual kinks.
This is too real. I think my mind is permanently broken from being alone for so long.
If you're okay with the thought then I'm not sure why you're trying to state that it never exists or no one is okay with it.
I'm able to have some form of intimacy with my best and only friend, mainly in the form of hugs and or cuddling if we're feeling down. We're both straight males and don't view each other in a sexual nature. He's even had two girlfriends but was still there and helped comfort me if needed.
If you truly want a deep companionship then go find someone you can bond with and don't let society or anyone else determine how interact and feel about a person. If you truly do have deep seeded sexual undertones though it will likely hinder any companionship you try to make.
some people just aren't allowed to have relationship, or love, or intimacy, or companionship, or whatever you want to call it
there's a surplus of men in white countries anyway, some of us have to be thrown to the wayside
the best thing we can do is keep our heads high and focus on self-improvement for the benefit of ourselves, and not what others think. you're free from the shackles of having to impress other people, become the person you want to be. or don't. you're your own man, and however you want to live from this point on is up to you.
this is so fucking well said
please, anon, make your dreams possible
This is the fallacy in the argument that I don't understand.
All of these white man that are being thrown aside could be forming companionships with each other but for some reason choose not to.There's no shortage of robots that have been through the same thing as you and share the same feels.
WISE MEN SAY ONLY FOOLS RUSH IN
oneitis please answer my messages i know you feel the same
Yeah I've met a few good guys on this board, but for some reason we always drift apart after a few weeks
>Oh and don't ever admit to feeling like that, no one wants to know or get to know someone who feels like that so you just have to lie and pretend and if you lie how can you reach out to someone.
Yeah, this part gets me.
Isn't it fucking absurd how we expend all our energy not to look desperate, how people despise other people who want to be loved
That is what his post was talking about though. Also I thought that other explained it pretty well when he was saying that most of us actually crave intimacy which while not exclusively romantic is almost nonexistent in male friendships
AND I WILL LOVE YOU TILL I DIE >tfw your oneitis rejects you for your best friend
Sure, I wanted this for the longest time but my lust makes it impossible to separate sex from love and companionship. I would question a girl's motives if she wanted to cuddle me and always be there for me and yet not want sex. It would make me feel like shit, like I was attractive enough to be with somehow yet not stimulating enough to have sex with.
You're despised because you want love for nothing. You need to offer something that's worthy of being loved. Not only that, what you offer has to be compatible to the type of girl you want. Just like there's no such thing as money for nothing, there's no such thing as love for nothing.
I'm glad someone knew how to put it into words, its just not fair.
I dont want sex nor companionship, I just want others to think I have a girl, so they can leave me the fuck alone and stop judging me.
My parents and relatives, the few people that may be my friends, my coworkers, strangers in cafes, restaurants and cinema, etc.
>it's like being in a room that's dark and you reach out for a wall you know should be there but it's just not there no matter how much you wish it was and then you realize the wall was never there.
I can relate. Except I had the wall, it was real, I've felt it, I've cried on its shoulder when I needed to. Let me tell you when you stumble and reach for that wall hoping to stop you from falling because you know it'll save you, and its just not there anymore and you pass through, you land really fucking hard.
I don't usually give 5/5s, but this post gets one.
>when you stumble and reach for that wall hoping to stop you from falling because you know it'll save you, and its just not there anymore and you pass through, you land really fucking hard.
>all these assumptions
Women will like me initially when I pretend that I'm a strong assertive male, not emotionally needy and so on. But every time the desperation leaks through they drop me instantly, no matter how physically or emotionally attractive they originally found me.
I understand you want to believe that getting love is a fair exchange for what each partner needs, but the world doesn't work like that. Desperation is a very unattractive trait regardless of what a man can offer.
Then develop new things to offer befitting a relationship. If you have things you can offer for a friend then that's already a step in the right direction.
You wouldn't be desperate if you had something to offer.
I have to assume because we're all anonymous.
You can't pretend to be strong and assertive, you have to be these things. People don't like being offered falsity. Again, you wouldn't be desperate if you had something to offer.
>no matter how physically or emotionally attractive they originally found me.
But you lied.
>Then develop new things to offer befitting a relationship.
Oh, is it that all I have to do?
You should probably get the fuck off this fucking board, anon.
>Again, you wouldn't be desperate if you had something to offer.
Again, you have no idea what I offer, I just replied to say you're imbecile who has an incredibly naive view of the world.
>Again, you wouldn't be desperate if you had something to offer.
you have no idea that the fuck you're talking about
you can be desperate for a meaningful relationship and still have hobbies and a genuine personality
>You wouldn't be desperate if you had something to offer.
This is not necessarily true unless you believe that the only thing that matters to women is being strong and assertive. Some people are desperate because they don't realize what they have to offer for whatever reason
I mean yeah, what other option is there? Give up and be alone forever? Hope someone comes along and likes everything you are?
You offer desperation, which you agreed was always unattractive. You have to get rid of it somehow. Not all the way, since most people greatly desire companionship (and are willing to accept it), but enough that it doesn't sour your relationships compared to the good things you offer.
That's why there's the normie advice of "you have to be happy by yourself before you get a relationship". It's not really true, but if you have fulfilling hobbies, a good life, and a good personality that would be attractive to someone why would you be so desperate as to drive people off?
Good point, maybe they don't see the value in themselves. Humility can be good, but in this case it becomes a huge hindrance. In that case recognizing oneself as valuable would be the first step.
>why would you be so desperate as to drive people off?
Probably because he hasn't always been so well off and has never had affection from a girl in his miserable life.
Also Ithink everyone needs to see themselves as valuable to have a "healthy" relationship, otherwise it will fail because you directly sabatoge it due to to self hatred or you will indirectly sabatoge it when they get sick of your self-loathing. Though what I say should be taken with a grain of salt because I've never been in a relationship and view myself am actually worthless
>Everyone here is always complaining about sex. Lack thereof, desire to not be a virgin, other people having sex and not them, etc.
are you generalizing and putting down all the other males on this board so someone can pretend to be a woman and get you you buy them Steam games?
what a cuck
>Oh and don't ever admit to feeling like that, no one wants to know or get to know someone who feels like that so you just have to lie and pretend and if you lie how can you reach out to someone.
God damn it anon. How the fuck do I deal with the feels.
>that board when someone makes a post that's worthy of going in the Robot Bible
I start masturbating sometimes (given up for the most part) and then 20 seconds in I stop prematurely because it feels empty and pointless and like a lie.
But I can't even find the energy to leave my appartment by my own accord so it's not going to happen desu
You robots just want a boot licking autistic female who obeys you in every way
I'm not even a fucking feminist dude. But this whole robot meme has been going on for too long. We're fucking losers. This delusion is why I barely browse r9k anymore...
>You robots just want a boot licking autistic female who obeys you in every way
holy shit speak for yourself you autist, we're all lonely as fuck and just want someone we can connect with, someone who enjoys spending time with us and who we enjoy spending time with
and second of all implying half of the fags on this board aren't submissive as fuck and desire to be the boot lickers themselves
I just want want a virgin qt to go out and cuddle at home with. I don't care about sex.
>tfw no girl ill see irl will ever be cuter than katya.
>need to apply for a new passport
>application requires two references from people who have known you for two years and aren't family
>can't think of a single person I could use
I don't think I've ever even talked to my neighbours
In high school, I used to fap and lose all desire of a girlfriend but now that desire stays even after the fap. That is when I realized I just want to be loved but I'm too apathetic to even do that.
Women will always find this attitude off-putting, and will never, ever, find a reason to believe you intend what you say. Not to mention they'd find this laughable, pathetic, and not at all what they've come to expect from Chad.
I don't want to be alone in this world anymore
Eventually, some of the "tfw no gf" people get desperate enough to try to take a shortcut into normiedom by paying for sex.
It doesn't work. You're in fantasy land for a little while but that's it. It doesn't make you any more confident or less of an autist in real life.
I got desperate enough early last year that I went to Germany to have sex in an FKK club. And while it was a very fun experience, it was far from making me different in any way...the few times I tried to talk with girls since then, all I could think of was the fact I paid for sex and what they'd think if they found out.
And even better, some of my family found out what I did and were all "what the fuck is wrong with you, if you really wanted someone we could have set you up with X or Y..." even though they never bothered before and clearly not since then, only kept pointing out why I didn't have a gf "at my age" (typical normie shit, point out flaws but don't actually do anything to help).
Getting a "casual fuck" from a woman won't solve all your problems, no, but it's a definite step up from paying for sex because you've managed to earn it. And for some people it might just be the first step they need to come out of their shells.
But I've never had that, so the next best substitute for me was going to a high-end brothel and pretending I was normal for a few hours. And what's even more sad is that I'll probably keep going back...already planned to go again in March.
Somewhat off-topic but I love how FKK clubs try to market themselves as "health and well-being" when it's pretty clear what you're going there for. I personally nickname them Fuck Clubs because that's really all they are.
Fuck off m8, this isn't the thread for it
Everyone else gets to have a relationship, they get to have someone that cares about them
It's not even something they think about
Like it's so ordinary and regular to them, they don't even realize how fortunate they are
Not him, but I had a gf once, for 3 months back in 2013. She initiated, and made the effort in the beginning, but then cheated on me after a month and a half.
Since then I have had no female attention whatsoever, despite having been open to getting gf the entire time. I have no idea how to go about getting a gf (because she initiated), and even if I did know how, I have no opportunities to get one.
I'm far closer to a robot, in thoughts, lifestyle, personality, and whatever else that screencap says, than I am to a normie who takes relationships for granted and assumes everyone can get them as easily as he can.
fuck yes fuck yes fuck yes.
sex is not what we robots are really starved for. we're starved for affection, intimacy, someone to talk to, share our feelings with, and anything different from the soul crushing loneliness we feel on a daily basis.
i can't even make girls want to be friends with me, let alone want to date me. it's fucking horrible. even when i think we might be friends it turns out they were just being nice by talking to me and they really don't want anything to do with me.
>yeh mane. feels bad.
>i dont want sex.
>im naturally polite and thinking about myself or times ive been selfish makes me cringe.
>being an asshole makes me physically uncomfortable.
>im a nice guys.
>but i get rejected because nice guys are either creeps or want sex.
>i. just. want. a gf. to be my best friend and love me as i love her.
I think I feel this way because my brain knows no woman will ever be attracted to my appearance.
The best thing I can hope for is that someone takes pity on my lame personality and tolerates me.
Because he's right.
Don't back out of getting into one because of my bad experience. I don't regret getting into it, because I got a taste of what intimacy, acceptance, and validation was like. And sex, as well.
Now I know what I'm missing, it feels worse than before. But I think knowing that I have had that makes up for it somewhat.
>sex leads to relationships
I dunno if it's a risk I should take. I know it will be extremely painful when she inevitably breaks up with me. I've heard people say they wished they'd never got into it in the first place, and when I think about not being able to talk to her anymore I get physically sick.
If you don't go through with this, you'll regret it in the future.
And just because other people wished they had never gotten into their relationships, doesn't mean that yours will be the same. Who knows, maybe you'll end up getting married.
Don't get married.
Sure showed me!
>Sex is just a byproduct
Besides this I feel the same way. Sex is a requirement no matter how we feel about it. I barely desire it on its own merit, but its an integral part of a healthy relationship. Its unfortunate but true. Believe me, I wish things were different.
Trust me, its the natural conclusion of your line of thought. I've been working through everything that you said in the OP since last November, and once I entertained the idea that what I wanted was an antithetical to what human relationships are, I realized that it was a clever way of protecting myself from the reality that I feel inferior from a sexual standpoint.
I should probably add that jealousy was a big part of what led me to feeling this way. I told myself over and over that sex wasn't something I wanted, but I still found myself distraught and sometimes angry when the people I was emotionally intimate with lusted after and/or slept with other men.
I had what all of you wanted for a period of time. It just doesn't work, and while its not our "fault", its still wrong and we're going to have to do our best to change because the rest of the world won't change for us.
I know this feel all too well. I'm curious which is worse now.
Having had someone once in your life once, losing them and then feeling bitter loneliness afterwards?
Or never having had someone in the first place?
It's similar to the circumcision question. We need a robot who was alone forever (20+ years) screencapped their feelings at that time then found someone and were happy briefly then were alone again for another 10 years and then compared the feelings.
Which would be worse?
>We need a robot who was alone forever (20+ years) screencapped their feelings at that time then found someone and were happy briefly then were alone again
I nearly fit this description, except it's only been 2 years since. I browsed this board before, but I don't remember the exact feelings I had.
There's more of a sense of "no-one has ever wanted me" before gf, which you don't have in the same way after. I would imagine that the feels after vary quite a bit, depending on the relationship. For example, my gf tried to get back with her ex after a month and a half of us being together, which to me says "Having tried to be in a relationship with Anon, she has found it so bad that she would rather try and get back with someone she had previously considered incompatible", and was even worse for my self-esteem than just having no gf. It was like confirmation that I am a bad person/bf, as opposed to the ambiguity of never having gf and not knowing.
Whereas a robot who broke up with his gf because they were moving to different places might feel generally better afterwards, because it hasn't said anything bad about him.
You do realise what you're missing after having gf, though, like you said. It's a difficult one, I don't think there's any easy way to tell which feels worse.
>tfw realising how long you've been on this board
I firmly believe that actual robots will always feel worse but due to the nature of emotions anyone who experiences a one time thing will think it's worse, because it's a fresh wound. Nothing can really compare to being truly alone for your entire life
Used to have a friend like that for about 8 years. We both knew everything about each other, families, friends, etc. All went downhill when we went to HS, his two friends hated me for no reason and I told him that I don't find his new GF attractive... Basically ended talking right there.
I miss this, man. Everyone I have met in HS was fake or just a classmate who you hang out with only at school.
>Nothing can really compare to being truly alone for your entire life
Well yeah, but if you're 20 there's still a chance, however slim. If you've had nothing by 50 or even 40, that's basically confirmation that you'll never have it.
>anyone who experiences a one time thing will think it's worse
It's possibly because it's different emotions and feels, so it seems overwhelming. Whereas being single forever is 'just' more of the same feels.
I've heard of similar things.
Yeah the contrast is also a factor but the feeling that you get from being alone your whole is extremely terrible, it's not just being single it's complete isolation. Honestly I don't feel like a human a lot of times, or at least not a proper one
>Honestly I don't feel like a human a lot of times, or at least not a proper one
Do you perhaps feel like...a robot? Appearing human on the outside, but feeling like there's something missing that stops you connecting with others?
How do you feel about people like me (I'm >>25826660 ) calling themselves robots, out of interest?
I don't know if I feel like an actual robot, more like a mutant or something because I also have awful aspects of my appearance.
I don't really consider you a robot honestly, depending on what you post or my mood I would generally call you a normalfag. I don't really dislike you though I'm just angry at everyone who isn't alone
I wish it was just sex i cared about
it would hurt a lot less
>tfw you have a group of friends
>always feel like an outsider, no one ever messages or talks to me unless it's a group activity
>none of them have ever asked me how I'm doing, none know I left university 2 months ago
>still cling to them out of some vague semblence of companionship
Not him, but I used to message people all the time about meeting up and doing things. Half the time they wouldn't reply, and when they did they were always busy.
I stopped trying, because I didn't want to keep putting myself out there and getting rejected, and because the fb message thing would be pretty much a list of messages from me, unanswered, and I didn't want to draw attention to that. And it's not like I'm spamming them, these messages would be a week or so apart at least.