Femanons what kind of girls do you think are attractive?what kind of girls make you jelly?
I'm jelly of girls with soft chubby faces
I love the porcelain doll look. Pale skin, big eyes, small facial features, petite bodies which don't have exaggerated sexual characteristics (like big t&a), long pretty hair and feminine clothes. Your picture is a good example, we seem to have similar taste.
That sort of look is pretty rare though, I find, so I don't get jealous much. I don't have pretty features unfortunately but I'm still paler and dress more feminine than most girls because that's not trendy these days.
Are you a fellow thin horse faced bitch like me?
Indeed I am. Sick of seeing girls with soft, cute faces complain.
I think really tall, slim waif like girls are beautiful. Especially when they're pale, they look so other worldly.
I would kill someone if it meant I could be 5'10 or taller.
>tfw ex is enraged that i'm with a petite asian now
im asia ill hit on you if you want
I think traps and transgirls are beautiful.
Tall, soft, hairless, feminine but with a subtle hint of masculinity (also cock+balls) is the greatest combination of traits
Cute white girls like pic related.
>tfw poop colored eyes
>tfw poop colored hair
What's up with self-hate like this though.
Like I'm ginger and I've never once felt bad about not having brown/black hair even though literally every girl I've ever spoken to said "dark hair and light eyes is my type HNGPH!"
>serve a white man
>be his cuckquean
No, thank you. Godly men only.
Too bad for their children.
Well, I don't get told "blue eyes, blonde hair is my type" but I just like it better.
Fuck it I'll post here since google images says I look like a nigger
I JUST POURED MY SOUL OUT TO YOU FUCK YOU ROASTIE REEE
I often browse /mu/, and it makes me jelly that she gets so much attention just for looking like this.
Her music is not special, really.
girls who look very young are undeniably the most attractive
Lavren is a 10/10 because she looks like she's 15 years old. I guess to stay that way you have to be very health-conscious and also have good genetics.
>Lavren is a 10/10
she's just a trashy music version of carey mulligan. seriously, they look like sisters
I'm small, flat chested with dark brown hair and eyes and I'm also underweight and incredibly pale. I wish I was tall with big breasts and blonde hair and blue eyes and was curvy or fit with a nice tan. Everyone seems to love those girls and I have to constantly hear about how amazing and precious they are no matter where I am or what I do. I like myself but being the exact opposite of what society considers perfect makes me feel incredibly insecure and awful, but oh well.
Now I'm curious femanon
Why won't you be my qt gf
Almost impossibly adorable ultra qts. They look like they can attract a quality bf that will finance their NEET lifestyle.
Its not what you think, they arent like cute thick thighs, theyre weirdly shaped with fat/muscle in the wrong places. I'm on a train back to school atm anyway, so I can't, i'm sorry anon
literally anyone who looks even marginally better than myself: aka 99% of non-fat women
I'm just jelly of girls with decent skin because I have rosacea and look like I'm blushing or drunk all the time.
I wonder what her life is like being so beautiful....
I find lots of girls attractive.
I guess my ideal is... thin, I guess. Tall-ish, like 5'5-5'7, with willowy figures. C or D cup boobs. Caucasian facial features (though I've seen dark-skinned girls with caucasian facial features, which is very attractive) with defined cheeks and jaws. The kind of girls with bodies that can make even a potato sack look fashionable. Hair isn't dyed, they don't have tattoos.
I'd kill for a stronger jaw, four more inches of height, and better fat distribution genes.
And for gods sake, I need to stop getting moles in weird places. Normal risks are supposed to be in areas without sun exposure, but I don't get out much to begin with, and I get them in places that never see sun!
> It makes me feel super-bad
Get the fuck off /r9k/
I used to feel that way when I frequented this place regularly, and I'm still a virgin. Now, having spent more time in the real world, I've come to the realization that most people simply do not give a fuck.
Go. Have sex with someone special. Enjoy your time with them. If it doesn't work out, it's not the end of the world.
Now I know nobody here has any reason to give a shit about my standards in particular, but listen. If you are a female and you:
-have no piercings
-have no tattoos
-have natural colored hair
then you are already set way above most other women on looks alone. This isn't coming from some tfwnogf robot either, I'm probably more of a cyborg t b h.
>most people simply do not give a fuck.
Most people also have shit marriages.
That being said it's not the end of the world, people seem to focus and amplify their one or two flaws too greatly.
Lara Croft. Pretty much any Square Enix character actually... damn do they look good
I really love the characters from the Final Fantasy series. Especially ones like Yuna.
Though... I gotta admit.. they did far more justice for the male characters than the female ones in my eyes. Sephiroth, Kadaj, Seymour... that's just off the top three I thought off, I think there's at least a dozen more I could list.
People do care if you're really promiscuous. Multiple one-night stand, twelve short-term relationships that led to sex within one year, etc. level.
Having a couple boyfriends in the past who you were serious with and, naturally, had sex with because you were serious, is nothing.
>40-50% in divorce
Coupled with people who are unhappy and stay together, I wager it's easily over half of married people are in shit marriages.
Wanna fite fuccboi? she got dat dik b
Have you ever heard the saying "You can't turn a hoe into a housewife?" That's the common wisdom. Sure, most men don't demand much because they can't, but when they can they do. Everyone intuits the truth and you've probably caught glimpses of that intuition on men's faces: sluts are human garbage. Please kill yourself.
Yeah, I agree to some extent
but lighting though.
Eh, I like her with more clothes. Plus, given the locations in 2013 and 2015 it's not like they could put her in shorts.
But I see the appeal
I posted about it once before and remember someone saying it was qt, so that must have been you.
It would still be nice to not have such blotchy looking skin and it feels like your face is directly in front of a blazing fire when you have a flare-up.
But those statistics don't cover things like how long they dated before marriage, whether they had a child together before marrying, income, addiction, illness, religion and religiosity, how often they've attended couples counseling, whether one or both partners are in the military, etc.
For example, a lot of really stupid military men will marry a sweetheart right out of high school to get better housing on base. Those marriages naturally tend to go to shit. That would skew statistics. Those people would likely have had fairly few
Then you get people who had an oops baby, decided to marry for the kid and not because they were in love, and then divorced.
Then you get people who married but are constantly struggling with money, and money is one of the top three things couples fight about, thereby causing stress in the marriage.
A religious couple might have had a low partner count, but be unable or unwilling to divorce due to their religious beliefs or because of children, thus remaining in an unhappy but otherwise legally intact marriage.
There are a LOT of factors. You cannot just pin it down to partner count. High partner count definitely says something about a person's values, self-control, etc. It certainly shouldn't be ignored. But there are so many other factors that affect marital success that you can't draw a direct correlation=causation line.
I'm only jelly of the girl that every guy seems to notice and/or hang on every word. I don't know what the type is since it can be random, but anytime guys in any enclosed space are obviously all oggling/dreaming about one girl i get jelly. i dont even want to be her, nor do i envy any characteristics since I am happy with my own appearance, but i do want that same attention for myself, sometimes tbhq.
> thus remaining in an unhappy but otherwise legally intact marriage.
Did you not look at my link that says virgin brides report happier marriages? What about the risk that someone with a lot of partners or lovers will pine for their old life and make the marriage suck or want out of it?
>all that other shit
Does it matter? Most people are in shit marriages, so I don't care what most people think matters to marriage (they suck at it).
>It certainly shouldn't be ignored. But there are so many other factors that affect marital success that you can't draw a direct correlation=causation line.
The studies keep reinforcing that more partners = more chance of divorce, not to forget the rock solid link between virgin marriages and a low risk of divorce. Why take on unnecessary risk because you can't fluff out every confounder? The broad strokes are revealing and consistent.
If someone is having casual sex prior to marriage why do you expect them to give that up because you put a ring on their finger? It brought them happiness before, if they get bored of you it'll bring them happiness again.
Half Asian half white is actually really attractive, especially for girls, you basically get the best features of the two most attractive races (by western standards at least)
T. White male
All your examples bar the religious couples are of people who tend to have high partner counts or are cheaters. Even religious couples get divorced in America - the Church is one of sanctimony more than of Christianity at this point. Basically the only people who are having happy marriages are very rare. It's just well educated, well to do, conservatives. Unless you and your partner are like that then the chances are that your future is despoiled.
Well, if that's how you wish to operate, that's fine. I'm certainly not telling you how to select partners.
I respectfully disagree. But whether we concur is moot: the point is that most people still do not place virginity over other attributes, such as having a good job, being kind and honest, cleanliness, intelligence, healthy, similar political and religious values, mutual desire for children or lack thereof, etc. Therefore, the other anon does not have much to worry about.
>But whether we concur is moot: the point is that most people still do not place virginity over other attributes
And they, more likely than not, have shit marriages.
I doubt there are many men who care how good their spouses job is, this seems like a one-sided metric.
>healthy, similar political and religious values, mutual desire for childre
These are all great for attraction and life building.
>Therefore, the other anon does not have much to worry about.
Statistically they do, it's a hard to ignore drop.
>And they, more likely than not, have shit marriages.
I respectfully disagree, but that's just based on my own life experience and observations.
>I doubt there are many men who care how good their spouses job is, this seems like a one-sided metric.
Then you'd be wrong. Many men do want partners who can contribute an equal amount to rent and household expenses, date nights, etc. Especially younger men who barely make enough to support themselves, much less a partner-- they can't afford dead weight. They need someone reliable and contributory.
>Statistically they do, it's a hard to ignore drop.
She has nothing to worry about in terms of attracting men. She just needs to hold herself to high standards and her partner to the same.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Now I finally understand why /r9k/ says men always date down. They think way too highly of themselves.
>I respectfully disagree, but that's just based on my own life experience and observations.
I also disagree based on my life experiences:
>mother marries my philandering dad
>sister says sex before marriage doesn't matter "god it's CURRENT YEAR!"
>marries manwhore bf after he knocks her up
And those were men for whom the statistical relation is supposed to be insignificant, they couldn't stop sleeping around after they got the magic rings.
This is a good read on the heartless chicks who settle when they hit the wall, you don't have to like the politics but the selected bits are quite eye opening. I wouldn't want to be caught dead in one of these loveless marriages even if it lasted forever.
>Then you'd be wrong. Many men do want partners who can contribute an equal amount to rent and household expenses
Show me the stats.
>specially younger men who barely make enough to support themselves, much less a partner-- they can't afford dead weight
Please show me the stats.
>She has nothing to worry about in terms of attracting men
It's about quality of relationships, not just getting into them, all those divorces tracked had to be married first anon.
Yep. Nobody would even care the slightest about her shit band if it weren't for her.
Also isn't she like nearly 30? /r9k/ and redditpillers BTFO.
He needs to fix that disgusting haircut first of all.
If he tried really hard he might look just a hair above average. Still wouldn't be anything remarkable.
Okay, so that's two anecdotal experiences. I'm sorry you had such negative experiences. I know very few divorcees, and a lot of happily married people. The divorcees I knew either got married too young or got married for the wrong reasons.
>show me the stats
Can't, sorry. Speaking from observation. I don't know a single couple where the woman isn't also expected to contribute rent, except if they're married and have children.
Also, common sense. A young man can barely support himself, do you think he's going to want to support another person who brings no income?
>It's about quality of relationships
People are not statistics, friend. Statistics can help you figure out what to look at. They can't tell you about individuals.
I know a couple who was active in the BDSM community. Very promiscuous, the both of them. They fell heads over heels with each other, and have remained doting and in love with each other ever since. One of the happiest couples I've met. They're still very much into BDSM, just exclusively with each other now. Your statistics wouldn't predict that, because it doesn't account for their values as people.
>her music is complete shit
>kind of sums up like 99% of female musicians
You know she just sings right? It's the two males in the band that's producing the bland as fuck music you fucking moron.
And they get trains run on them on the down low. Most bases are in conservative areas they will necessarily congregate there. It doesn't say anything about their own values.
>muh anecdotes disprove statistics
american education whew
>I don't know a single couple where the woman isn't also expected to contribute rent, except if they're married and have children.
>except if they're married and have children.
Like I said, men don't care what job their spouse has and your personal community doesn't reflect the people at large. If you say most men value a womans job I want to see the damn stats, necessity because you're young and poor as shit don't count.
>Your statistics wouldn't predict that
Yes it would, don't feign ignorance, did you look at the graph? It never drops to 0%.
>People are not statistics, friend. Statistics can help you figure out what to look at. They can't tell you about individuals.
Yes they can because people can and do share common traits, values, genetics, etc . Every person is not an unpredictable snowflake.
I'm attracted to small girls with big smiles. I like if they are ticklish. In just a beauty-admiring sense I like tough girls with short hair too.
I'm not really jealous of many girls. Maybe rich ones because I wish I had dosh, but not jealous enough that I actually have bad feels about them.
I can find other girls attractive on one level but other than that I get irrationally mad when I see pictures of girls. I got molested by a group of stacey's and now i just can't look at young women anymore lol
it's nothing to jack off to lol, and I'm a shit storyteller
>be me, about 12
>change schools after getting beat up to shit
>all girls catholic convent school
>have no friends for 2 years
>begin rapidly losing weight
>other girls suddenly think I'm cool
>Can't do gym because I'm starving myself and can barely walk
>hanging out in the bathroom waiting for everyone to be done
>two popular girls I'd like to impress come down, say I should change out of my gym gear (strict uniform policies required me to wear it despite not doing the class)
>I do, they overpower me, basically poke and prod at all my extruding bones and tell me how I should 'keep going' to 'get thinner'
>This happened weekly
>Didn't realise till years later that this was what made me hate women
Not a very interesting read, sorry anon
>it's nothing to jack off to lol, and I'm a shit storyteller
I didn't want a story to jack off to. If I wanted that I'd ask for pics
>>Didn't realise till years later that this was what made me hate women
Be my misogynist gf :^)
I did, fuck you.
Shit story m8 no pussy eating or tribbing 1/10.
>I do, they overpower me, basically poke and prod at all my extruding bones and tell me how I should 'keep going' to 'get thinner'
How is that molestation?
What did you always hate? People who poke people aggressively?
true, this is so true lol when I first heard the mother we share I was like
NOPE ABORT ABORT
I felt like my ears were being violated the first 5 seconds in, never cared to look into that band further because of that instance. Then I learned she was the frontman and I would look at her face just too look at her, still don't know what she looks like singing, maybe cute, but it's not worth it to listen to her songs. they're awful.
Those damned stacey whores and their poking....
but no I'm not going to go into details with shit like that, I'm sure most people who do go into details with these kind of stories are merely testing their hand at erotica, and only pretending to be a woman. That kind of dedication is admirable I guess.
>with these kind of stories are merely testing their hand at erotica, and only pretending to be a woman
It's a friendly break from literotica, you can beat them all with your very own timestamp!
>Those damned stacey whores and their poking....
You were molested and now you want to kill yourself because you rape girls too? What's the deal with you offing yourself?
Did you become the gym teacher?
How tall are you?
5'5, it kills me more than anything that I have to be so average, I could have stopped at 5'3 and been fine but noooo my skeleton still had to grow. I was even supposed to stop growing at 15 according to my orthodontist because even they thought I was tall, their words. I was even considering getting that surgery to be shorter but then realised my arms would be too long, it would look silly. a few inches makes all the difference, short girls don't even know how good they have it. Hayley Williams and Lauren Mayberry are perfect in my eyes.
As long as you're below the average male height I don't see the big deal, unless you have a huge thing for being qt3.14 dainty princess then I guess you're fucked by your own fantasies.
Hey, being taller than average is not a bad thing. I want to have a girl who is taller than I am, DESU. THat will probably never happen, since 6 ft 2 girls are pretty rare, and typically date giants.
I really don't understand how men expect us to have an instinctive understanding of the value of virginity when we're young. When I was in my mid teens, I learned about sex from the following places
>silly girly magazines
>boys my age
The religious schooling taught me that delusional Christians are against sex before marriage, but they are crazy so I didn't care what they said. Magazines taught me to NEVER LET A BOY PRESSURE YOU INTO SEX, but I had a libido and didn't feel pressured. Boys my age acted like sex was the most awesome, desirable thing in the world, and so I thought that girls who give them sex must be awesome and desirable by association. I was never a very romantic or emotionally driven person, so I thought that there was no logical reason to avoid sex. It was only when I got older and actually educated myself on biology, evolution and society in general that I understood the logical reasoning behind it. Do people really think a 16 year old is going to automatically consider concepts like paternity assurance and resource investment?
Luckily I was always fairly naturally reserved so I just had sex with 2 boyfriends before realizing I should get myself to a nunnery, so to speak. But it took me 5 years of serious celibacy to fully understand the way men think about sex.
>the value of virginity
kek There's no reason to take what /r9k/ says more seriously than what teen magazines say. If you venture outside of this place and looked at what men say about virgins elsewhere on the internet you'll find a lot of them actually find virginity to be a inconvenient turn off.
Asian girls. I'm so jealous that seeing one makes me want to hurt myself. My only hope in life is technology to make me yellow being developed.
>huge turn off
They just want to fuck, they're not marrying you.
>But it took me 5 years of serious celibacy to fully understand the way men think about sex.
What in the actual fuck.
I'm asian myself and I'm inclined to believe the posters saying asian girls are one racebaiting samefag.
>They just want to fuck, they're not marrying you.
Most people date before they marry.
Neither the pretending to be girl nor the racebait shitposting are new to /r9k/. Just look at >>25802544 and >>25802665 and tell me you think they're made by two completely different people. Normally girls want to change/enhance a set of features, but they don't want to be a completely different person.
Most white girls do not give a shit about Asian girls, as much as white men who got rejected by white women and go for Asian girls out of spite want to believe. Weeaboos might, but the rest get so much attention that they're not going to care about some tiny minority of white guys with yellow fever.
Well it didn't take that long to understand, but I did refrain from sex for that long because I wasn't sure how I felt about it.
What don't you understand? It has value, but girls aren't born with an inherent knowledge of that value, and so they might waste it.
wouldn't judging girls for not being virgins be the logical thing to do if virginity is so important? otherwise, girls are guaranteed not to learn anything. at least, then, you'd have the possibility of preventing the status quo from remaining.
i don't agree with you about virginity at all, for the record. you seem to have internalized some pretty negative beliefs about being a nonvirgin. go outside more and stop taking this board seriously.
also, evo psych is usually terrible because people use it to come up with justifications for their preexisting beliefs.
>More like white Stacies in asia haven't learned the proper social cues to encourage them to approach
Granted, if you're 7/10+ gaijin grill, most locals are going to be intimidated the fuck by you. But trust me most japs/koreans consider you a catch
I said it has value, not that non virgins deserve to be judged or are bad people (that's kind of my whole point, girls aren't awful degenerate whores for not automatically knowing how the male brain works). It's essentially a very nice, once in a lifetime gift that you can give to someone to raise your standing in their eyes and make them feel special at the same time. Just like with real gifts, it's a dick move to feel like people owe you it, but it's still great to receive.
Let me guess, you read that one article about a frumpy, older white woman complaining that Japanese men weren't all over her and decided that's a universal truth for all women?
A young, decently attractive girl will have no fucking trouble in Asia. They are novel and get extra attention for being white.
fair enough. i guess i made a wrong assumption based on this:
>But it took me 5 years of serious celibacy to fully understand the way men think about sex.
thinking you were implying that you've avoided relationships because you felt bad about losing your virginity.
I want to be taylor swifts sex slave I mean I'm really jealous of her body
>Most people date before they marry.
So? Most marriages don't work, and what people find good for a night of fund doesn't equate to good marriage material.
> but I did refrain from sex for that long because I wasn't sure how I felt about it.
You're a strange person, it would seem better to spend the time finding a mate instead of going full monk
Guy here. Her body is her weakest selling point. She's a twig with no ass.
Mostly she's just a cute face and supreme basic bitch, which has its own appeal. I want to lick her feet.
>So? Most marriages don't work, and what people find good for a night of fund doesn't equate to good marriage material.
Sexual compatibility is not a guarantor but rather the minimum for many people.
>Sexual compatibility is not a guarantor but rather the minimum for many people
Arguments to the majority don't fly with me when the majority don't have good marriages, unless she has no libido there's not much sexual incompatibility to be had unless you have a long list of kinks that need to be met.
If testing sexual compatibility by sleeping around was such a great way to start a marriage I'd expect virgin brides to do far worse in the divorce rates and those who fool around to do far better. And of course virgin brides should be doing worse in the marital quality department too, but they're not.
She's had a lot of plastic surgery and tons of money put into her looks, a personal stylist etc.
I agree that she has a cute face (after surgery) but if I could choose someone to look like, there are plenty of women who are more beautiful naturally.
People always want what they don't have.
I am underweight, as pale as a corpse and too tall.
I know that there are people who think that's not a bad look.
But due to my shyness I wish I was a bit tan and curvy and exotic (and definitely short) and maybe that would make me less shy and get me guy's attention.
Though in reality, I'd probably be the same loser I am now.
Someone else entirely here but in my opinion you should also pay attention to other factors than just virginity with these statistics.
They certainly aren't controlled for religion.
I suspect that the lower divorce rates are determined by virgin brides being very religious on average and thus condoning divorce.
You are very welcome to look for a virgin bride, etc. I have no interest in any sort of debate to change your mind.
But I wouldn't be surprised if religion is a bigger contributor to not getting a divorce than not having had sex before marriage.
>in my opinion you should also pay attention to other factors than just virginity with these statistics
>They certainly aren't controlled for religion.
You can look in the statistics to see if they kept track of that, however religious persons may be more unlikely to engage in said risky behavior so it may have less to do with attitudes towards divorce and more to do with having less reasons for an unhappy marriage.
>I suspect that the lower divorce rates are determined by virgin brides being very religious on average and thus condoning divorce
They also report happier marriages, however them being super religious is just a guess (a fair guess) you don't have the numbers pulled apart to actually show that.
>But I wouldn't be surprised if religion is a bigger contributor to not getting a divorce than not having had sex before marriage.
And to having a happier marriage too.