These articles try and make it seem like the guys complaining about the friendzone always only want sex, but in reality it seems like usually they're more the type that are pining after a relationship instead
>>25792122 Well when people talk about white knight betas, we don't mean people who do the occasional favor, we're talking about the bitches who follow girls to their college, or who buy them cars and pay off their loans and shit. But, if a guy does normal favors after the girl acts all bitchy and shitty, then yes, he is a "sucker."
>>25792264 wow, it's so easy to get sex for this slut that she has no idea what some men go througn to get it
Also, she thinks that men talking about their feelings is going to get them what they want. Who does this dumb whore not realize that our "feelings" would make her cringe so hard and instantly label us beta? I know thos is bait but fuck it, I'll keep replying to this garbage.
What's the big fucking deal Bitchas have guys that are friends. Dudes have bitchas that are friends. Is the hang up that friendzone is a negative term? It's only negative if you use it that way. I like having friends who are chicks. Maybe they don't. Who gives a shit.
Okay, if you're a woman with "friends" (read: beta orbiters) pretty much all of them would say yes to sex. It doesn't work the other way around but women don't seem to get it. I would be called a pig and be isolated by all my friends because "ewww soo creeeeepy!"
>>25792435 > Who does this dumb whore not realize that our "feelings" By putting feelings in quotation marks are you realizing that your "feelings" are the musings of a retarded middle class autist who wasn't beaten enough by his parents?
Friendzone is basically "oh man we have such a great friendship I don't wanna ruin it!". This almost never happen IRL, just like you fags are not attracted to every girl that talks to you, girls don't have to be attracted to every chump that spent 5 minutes talking to her.
>>25792326 I don't know if you frequent /r9k/, but threads where someone gets a male model picture and uses it on Tinder. The guy could literally say anything and the girls all pretty much want to fuck him. If you don't have that manly jaw, manly body, and manly height (5'10" and up), then you're shit outta luck and you have to get really lucky for Tinder.
And yes, I've tried. I'm a 6'1" guy but I lack the other desirable qualities so tinder doesn't work. The only way I would agree with the friendzone not existing or the guys being dumb is if they legalized prostitution, then guys wouldn't have to put up with your shit anymore.
Basically, he redefines the concept in a way that he can discredit.
Friend zone pretty clearly exists. It's just a form of unrequited love. It doesn't imply the sufferer in this case feels entitled to anything. It doesn't imply anything about gender roles. It's just, "I am attracted to you sexually but you don't want me as anymore than a friend." Why are we still allowing articles on this garbage.
This shit was obviously written from the perspective of someone who has no idea what life as an average male is like.
The bitch assumes men and women are playing on an equal level in the dating field. When really, she only deals with Chads and normies so she assumes all guys are like the ones she socializes with exclusively.
Also, not every guy stuck in the friend zone is looking for sex, some of them genuinely want relationships. Buuuut, Stacys like to make false assertions and build straw men about how guys in the friend zone are only nice because they want sex.
They'll never have any idea what it's like to essentially be told "you aren't worth loving" just because you don't fit some arbitrary list of genetic and social guidelines.
>>25792306 Tinder kinda works if you have an 8/10 face and a shitty bod. You just have to make all pics shoulders up and be very careful of the angle/lighting. If you don't have either a good bod or good face don't even try it.
>>25792828 But seriously tho, i don't give a shit about Tinder, but it is true that most people here are sniveling little shits who wants people to like them even if they're trash. Me included, but i least i own up to it
>>25792856 It really isn't my fault that I'm ugly. Not my fault that my hairline is receding, that I have acne that I've tried so hard to fix that never goes away, not my fault that my teeth keep getting more and more fucked up for no reason despite having practiced perfect teeth hygene my whole life, none of this is my fault. There is literally nothing I can do to fix the damage on my face. I know it's really no one else's fault, but how the fuck do I just go about my whole life pretending everything is fine when it isn't and there's nothing I can do to save myself? I'm not getting sex either way, and acting like shit will give the normies a reason to to point and say "that must be the problem", but when I act normal and don't get good results normies just say "keep doing what you're doing." It's just so exhausting.
>>25792953 If you don't act like a good person naturally, and if it's exhausting for you to do so, it means you have no conscience, and you're little more than a beast. Your appearance simply reflects your inner self.
>>25793015 People generally act the way they are treated and brought up. I used to be all happy but I always got shit on for it. I started to act like shit, which gave people justify their shitting on me. Either way I act, life is shit and exhausting.
What are you suggesting, that depressed people are that way because it's their fault? Should they all just off themselves?
>>25793015 I was a pretty happy kid growing up, and didn't turn bitter until puberty when people started treating me like an outcast. I'm pretty sure the way people treats you has something to do with your disposition.
>>25793090 Of course not, but to say that everyone is at your level of filth, is just preposterous >>25793079 >Should they all just off themselves? Considering that the average robot can vote, yes, yes they should, for the good of mankind.
>>25793128 This. Successful people that shit on us like to leave out the fact that while there are exceptions, your environment and how you are treated really matters, and if you're ugly you're not as likely to get treated well and be encouraged by your peers. When you suggest this, people look at you crazy despite the fact that humans are social creatures and our social lives have a huge impact on who we turn out to be.
>>25793473 >Why don't you address the points that me and the other guy you replied to made before you spout memes all day. Because he is a TROLL, like 95% of the edgy /b/tards that come here for easy target practice. This board has gone to shit with the constant reposts of threads and underage userbase that comes on here since they cant get any attention on /b/
>>25793287 >>25793489 I grew up either being bullied (early years in school) or being a loner (later years in school), but I didn't let that change the way I acted around people. I insist on being extremely nice to people around me (it really just comes naturally to me), despite the way I was treated in the past.
People at work (I know, GTFO normie REEEE!) come to me with their problems because I come across as intelligent and kind enough to care about their problems (which I actually do). I am also a newer union steward (less than 1 year) at my workplace and am liked more than stewards who have been there for 10+ years, because I come across as more caring.
Why is this the case? I know human nature is terrible, but for that reason I feel like it is just a better reason to try to rise above it somehow. There's no reason that others shouldn't be able to do the same, because I went through some pretty crappy times in my childhood/young adult years (and my home life didn't help, with parents that constantly fought such that there wasn't even a sanctuary away from school at home).
>>25793805 >(it really just comes naturally to me)
Congrats. What if the opposite comes natural to others? Some people are able to find coping mechanisms and persevere, others aren't. You can't take your personal experience and say it should apply to everyone else.
>>25793867 I didn't have coping mechanisms. I hardly even had a support network in my family.
As to what comes naturally, weren't the people I was responding to arguing that the environment turned them into assholes (the gist of what was said, not the exact wording)? They were essentially arguing that it wasn't their fault. Turns out that if being an asshole comes naturally to them, then they would be assholes whether or not people were supportive of them growing up.
>>25793892 If that is a person's intent, then there is nothing I can do about it. Regardless, the whole point of what I was saying was that even though human nature is terrible, I see no reason to bring myself down to the level of people who use others, belittle them, torture them, etc. for whatever reason they want. So yes, I guess you can say that I am OK with people using me. It doesn't bother me because I truly enjoy helping people. At any rate, I never feel that i am "being used" by people when they ask me for help. They gladly reciprocate and do things that they never do otherwise to help me with my agenda as a steward (not a sinister agenda, by the way).
>guy confesses his feelings for said girl >she doesn't return the feelings >he has to choose between beta orbiter lending an ear to her as she gets pumped and dumped by chad or breaking contact >if he chooses to break contact, the woman will then complain and act like he only wanted her for sex and is angry that he could potentially feel that he has been "friend zoned" just because he wants to be more than friends but can't handle it
>>25792191 Tinder is the equivalent of going with prostitutes and disgusting landwhales PLUS THEY'RE NOT EVEN LOYAL SINCE THERE ARE DESPERATE ENOUGH MEN THAT WILL GO OUT WITH THEM >"Lol what a loser, he's a virgin XD! You should just be yourself and sleep with a used up cow"
>>25794235 If you don't expect pathetic people to go for pathetic people, why do you expect Stacies or even average girls to go for virgin males (who, by virtue of their virginity, were apparently rejected by plenty of people already)?
>>25794458 I guess I meant to reply to the other guy? You seem to take issue with the statement "pathetic people should go for other pathetic people", so if you disagree with this statement, then you think that pathetic people should go for non-pathetic people? I mean, there's no reason they shouldn't, but they also shouldn't be surprised when non-pathetic people go for non-pathetic people.
>>25794688 Lots of money, presumably. But there is always a chance you'll be unlucky and become disfigured such that you'll lament the fact that you asked for more than what you had at the time (which I am guessing is better than being disfigured). It's all a matter of how much of a gambler you are.
>>25794659 The difference is I'm higher than 3/10 but people say I should settle with the 3/10 just because that's the way it is? Fuck women's hypergamous bullshit, I would rather be alone than with a 3/10.
>>25794996 The person I replied to was implying I should give 3/10s a try, and I said fuck that. Certain girls, even ones on my level, reject me because they always fuck up, not down (or equal). If I "took what I thought was mine" after that point then it would be rape.
>>25795080 You're saying certain girls, not all. I'm not trying to sound like a PUA but it really is a number game. It's a shitty one and maybe 1:10 girls will give you the time of day but it is what it is. The self confidence meme is shitty but it's a huge factor
>>25791985 the backlash against simply giving a name to these exploitative half-rejections has been so fucking explosive i love it. Stacies are so transparently desperate to maintain their vice grib on betas that they are crusading to stop something as simple as having a term to refer to when discussing an issue. This is some 1984 shit
>>25791985 It's real because it's a fucking buzzword meme now. I've received feedback from female friends that I've friendzoned them and a bunch of other new female friends for the past few years when I clearly told them I'm not into relationships.
>>25791985 You're utterly retarded. Women are the ones who impose the "friendzone" on a guy, usually from the moment they first meet. Unless she finds out you have more money or status than she initially thought, she'll always keep you in the friendzone.
>>25792310 >just fuck them and if it doesn't work go back to being friends >friends who had sex is better than friends who didn't have sex >sex sex sex! our entire world revolves around fucking because we're that worthless!
It's the future you chose, r9k. Look at what you've done.
>>25792550 >just like you fags are not attracted to every girl that talks to you, girls don't have to be attracted to every chump that spent 5 minutes talking to her.
and every chump that's attracted to someone who will NEVER be attracted to them is in the friendzone. it is so incredibly simple and common and it blows my fucking mind that people get so salty about it and pretend it doesn't exist
>>25791985 I love this new meme where people pretend it's neckbeards that invented 'friendzone', the first time I heard the term was in an episode of 'Friends' when I was a kid, I don't remember exactly the context other than Chandler telling Ross that he's in the friendzone, then Ross saying that he's not and Chandler going "You're mayor of the friendzone" or something similar.
The thing is, the friendzone is simply when you try to get a gf and you fail, then you're stuck as her orbiter, doomed to constantly reassure and defend the bitch and keep her self esteem intact unless you realize that it's pointless and just cut contact. It doesn't mean that women are obligated to like you back, it means that they don't like you back but still want to keep you around to be their bitchboys.
I also love the meme where we pretend men want women as friends when women offer basically nothing since they have no personality, apart from a few exceptions.
The friend zone exists but you need to be aware of its different forms
>girl taking advantage of man friend zone >girl not interested at all friend zone >girl interested but not dating friend zone >girl too insecure/shy friend zone
If you are in the last two, the best option is to develop a good friendship (which is a form of relationship) and develop intimacy. I have slept with many women who I was "friends" with beforehand. I'm currently friends with a girl I go hiking with and see in class regularly. I can naturally tell that the level of intimacy is climbing and I will likely sleep with her in the future.
The friend zone is not always a death sentence but if you're in the first two forms mentioned, then the relationship is going nowhere but friends.
>>25792326 >Well, if you're a robot, chances are you don't either Robots don't having women itching for their cock lining up to help them and then bitch when those women get angry that they don't want to give them their cock.
>>25798990 >Be anon >Die >Get reborn into a wealthy family >Have great genetics, 6'2" tall, broad shoulders, strong jaw >Eventually realize that I am transgendered >Family will disown me if I come out It could be worse, at least your body has the correct general shape for the sex you want to be.
I know a guy who just escaped a 7 year friendzone with a 9/10 grill. Do you think she's pregnant from a nigger? I hope he'll be tired of her shit in a few months. Whoever stays that long in the friendzone is a sad sad loser.
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