This board is so cringeworthy, holy shit all those fucking corny posts about muh misery. You narcisstic faggots think that your suffering elevates your existane? It's the opposite, the emptyness of your life turns you into degenerated creatures. Get a grip.
>if you spent all that time doing x and spent it on Y, ypu'd be in a much better position. No shit. Problem is I don't have a proclivity for Y because Y is fucking boring and difficult
they are big words... for you
>the reality principle is pseudo intellectual
Productivity - not meaning to turn yourself into a wagecuck and be productive for your master - but productive as in working towards fulfilling your true desires (there is a clear distinction between fake and true desires, fake desires being for example the desire to consume or posess things with nothing but a fetishistic value). In the case of ''muh no gf'' this would mean that you actively direct your libidual forces towards achieving your goal, learning how to socialize, working out, collecting the courage to talk to them and so on - instead of escaping into masturbatory fantasy or keeping your mind buzzed through digital static.
But being a "degenerated creature" is more in register with what being a human actually means. I am just a ball of contingency and some sentience bearing the designation of "collateral damage." This whole species consists of deluded DNA junkies who inconsiderately continue a cycle of pervasive human turmoil into perpetuity and upholding a few examples of where it went "right" as the rule
>there is a clear distinction between fake and true desires
Holy shit dude fucking stop.
>But being a "degenerated creature" is more in register with what being a human actually means.
As far as i know mankind is defined not by submitting to it's instinct but by it's ability to deny them. See Adornos dialectics of enlightement for a superb example through analysis of the Odysseia. - What makes us human is the ability to sacrifice your desires in order to not be sacrificied. It is the reality principle which makes our self subjugate our impulses - to self-sustain itself.
>This whole species consists of deluded DNA junkies who inconsiderately continue a cycle of pervasive human turmoil into perpetuity and upholding a few examples of where it went "right" as the rule
A very simplistic perception which is tied to the illusionary ideal of society. Dig deeper or expand your argument.
True desires, are quite simply the basic psychic and physical desires of a human. Food, Shelter and so on, most importantly sex. Only when those desires are satisfied does a human grow free of it's existential struggle - but to keep people in the treadmill and cover up the complete dissatisfaction which which our society provides us, despite posessing the means of fulfilling all of them (With sex and the entire social structure surrounding it being a bit more complex - yet inherently tied to this dissatisfaction as economic circumstances determine the form through which relationships between genders are established) - The subject is manipulated into believing that the objects of his fake desires can give him fulfillment - the experience of dissatisfaction can lead to awareness but society is in general structured in the way that new gadgets, new products, new things always replace that which came before - Or that the promise of (the american dream for example) is rendered completely impossible except for a few cases which are exploited to maintain the illusion of possibility to the community.
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>True desires, are quite simply the basic psychic and physical desires of a human. Food, Shelter and so on, most importantly sex
Fantastic, now riddle me this:
Do you really want to accept a biological imperative?
>degenerate in the sense of frankfurter school
>quote Adorno, the vanguard of critical theory
Excuse me, but is /pol/ not exorbitantly afraid of critical theory? Also why do you call it ''Art Entartete'', are you refering to the nationalsocialistic term ''Entartete Kunst''?
I like this board. The fact that a majority of people here are actually mentally ill or so severely out of it that they do not care one iota about social norms anymore means that I can avoid being criticized for my personality which is very liberating.
What is the teleological basis for humanity that justifies any of this woowoo? Nobody has to negate anything in the absence of humanity and I think if you do some clicking around you will realize that "free will" and "self-determination" is the most illogically incongruous idea on the map
>I think if you do some clicking around you will realize that "free will" and "self-determination" is the most illogically incongruous idea on the map
Why is that now?
I can prove without a doubt that Physicalism is false.
Why should determinism be true, if Physicalism is false?
>stop being degenerate
>work towards most importantly, sex
>tfw tried to get into programming and drawing
>tfw low attention span
Please end me desu. I'm never going to be useful to this world and i'm just taking up space.
>Do you really want to accept a biological imperative?
Do you think that a robot is not doing it already? The difficult task is here to subjugate your biological impulse and creatively (which is barely possible in our society - which is not a critique in itself - compared to older times the options are much greater) move them. As ''ego'' you are getting fucked by the subconscious forces - yet it is the ego who transforms the demands and the drives into reality. You always act under a biological imperative but as a human you can determine, if you are willing to put the hard work forward that goes into this - to control how you transform the imperative into reality.
It is your fault, because it shows your complete lack of philosophical knowledge. The irony of calling someone, who argues from a position of critical theory, a /pol/-tard when critical theory is the greatest boogeyman of /pol/-tards seems to elude you.
D1: All things are nothing more than their physical component.
D2: Due to the way the PHYSICAL universe works all things must be predetermined.
P1: D2 is only possible if there is nothing more to all things than the physical.
C1: If D1 is false, D2 is false as per P1.
C2: There is more to all things than the physical component.
T1: Determinism must be false.
There is a proof to the second Conjecture, I'm not gonna bother unless you ask for it, though.
>I request that you put the concept of "free will"
You should be doing that, because you brought it up. I never used the term.
The connection between Frankfurt School and SJW is inexplainable to me. The members of the Frankfurt School have vastly influenced leftist theory through their works - yet there are no ties to todays gender studies or idendity politics. The only connection is that the bourgeois moralistic faggots of the 60's were vastly influenced by it without grasping it's point whatsoever. If you check out what critical theory is, you will find that it stands in absolute opposition to the bullshit that the liberal left spouts these days. It condemned the dissolution of ties in society - while the SJWs move it forward. SJWs are middle-class faggots trying to play radical and i reject any statement which ties the actual works to todays leftist discourse from those which are categorized as ''SJWs''.
The connection was made by later theorists who absorbed aspects of frankfurter schule into their work, it does not stem from critical theory itself.
I stress this because if people were to actually read something as the dialectics of enlightenment they would realize how manipulated the image of critical theory is - and how absurd the conspiracy theory of cultural marxism is.
your rhetoric is garbage. The onus is on me to make sense of the retarded concept YOU believe in? Equally stupid is the idea that one must have a materialistic concept of the universe in order to realize "free will" is absurd. I was being sarcastic when I said "Go ahead and prove that because it is irrelevant". In fact we can have an indeterminate universe and still, where is the free will? in any chain of causality there is either causation or randomness, there is no magical third option where my fucking Fruitloops upsets the very flow of time by being the ultimate cause of something at some arbitrary interval. I am not even ann atheist but even I have my limits
it seems like you are just a big fucking turkey because you've overlooked the fact that my position is that no such convincing definition exists. I am merely saying whatever you come up with as a model for the mechanism for free will in abstract terms, it will immediately sound preposterous. Go ahead